What is the bar that the Browns quarterbacks need to clear?

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1:27I just am not convinced based on what I've seen from the quarterback's steering, Cleveland, that even if the environment was better, it's that their play would be appreciably better. And so that's a pretty big outstanding question for me. It looks like they've made really smart changes in the off season to try and make the environment better this year. And I just have question marks about the challenge, frankly, in throughout the room. I don't know that they have their quarterback in the future on staff, and I don't know that they have a quarterback that is good enough that they will be able to, like we saw with Sam Darnal and Niseehok last year, right? Like, you just have to be good enough, right? If the environment is good and you can be good enough and you're not going to be the problem, then that is good enough in a lot of cases. And I don't know that the quarterback is there who can get out of the way and not be the problem. Lindsay Rhodes of Sumer Sports in the previous segment, giving us her quarterback down for the Browns. We do have Pete Futek, collegefootballnews.com coming up in about 40 minutes by the way,

2:32a little high-o-state Texas action. Who needs this one more? What does he think about the game? What not? We'll talk a little Darryan Mensit too. I watched him this last weekend against Stan for a fantastic. I'm going to say it. Nobody else has the gall to say it, but this guy, he's good at football. I also can understand what I think the Browns want the offense to be in 2026 and beyond. I think Darryan Mensit is going to do a lot of what they want their quarterback to do. Now, that being said, I don't actually disagree on the quarterback room. I understand it's the greatest out. I also, I don't really want to fight anybody who thinks it's the worst quarterback room in the NFL. And I have a certain amount of despair. It's starting to show on Watson, at least for week one. And so I understand the skepticism, but devil's advocate. Why does it feel like this is the only quarterback room? I'm not hearing a little bit of week one, hey, maybe. Like, I'm hearing that about Gino Smith in New York. I'm hearing people speak glowingly about

3:34current. The show has learned that. Well, I, so I don't think it's just that though. I think in, I think one of the great drugs in, in football is new because new breeds hope. So if this was DeShawn Watson starting in Arizona, I think people would say, well, it's a new scenario. It's a, you know, a fresh start for DeShawn. Hey, you never know, right? But because he was here the last four years and because Shadour was here in December and we're just making purely statistical evaluations of him and not actually watching what actually happened, which I think was actually better than the, the, the stats say, I think we're just easily skipping to 2027. And I just, I just think it's interesting to watch 31 of the 32 teams get a little bit of that hope machine at quarterback, but not the Browns, even if I disagree with the Browns mentality with the Sean certainly. Well, I, and yeah, I just don't feel like the Sean's earned it. But on Lindsay's point, I always find this fascinating. It's like, are you a product of your environment or are you

4:34the environment and everything else? And really, the way the NFL's established itself is that you, there still has to be a bar you have to clear as a quarterback to even if you have the environment set up to be able to do something with that. I, Jaylen Hertz, I think is a great example of this. Jaylen Hertz is one of the best offensive lines in the game. He's always had great wide receivers. He's always had great weapons. And then Jaylen Hertz takes advantage of it and people are like, I don't know that Jaylen Hertz is a great quarterback. I don't know that he's a good quarterback, but the environment's so good. He's going to have success. Jared golf, another idea of this brought party. Another idea that somebody she mentioned, she mentioned San Antonio. I think that's like the example to go with right now, right? And it's like, so there has to be a, a little bit of a bar you have to clear. And I think where Lindsay's argument starts to strengthen within the argument for why the Browns maybe won't have the best 2026 is does to Sean Watson. If it is to Sean for the majority of the games or at least the early part of it, does he clear that even initial bar that it feels like some of these other quarterbacks we're talking about do? Well, and it's interesting because they're the Browns case right now is that to Sean Watson clears the bar in terms of operation in terms of running the offense, all the stuff that doesn't

5:40evolve throwing the football or I don't say reading a defense because it does involve that, but all the kind of stuff that that honestly we did see quarterbacks struggle with last year. And so what's interesting is you have that versus what I do think is raw playmaking ability from Shadour, but maybe the, you know, whether it's whether it's whether the penalties that, oh my gosh, the clock, the clock expired again. Thank you. Good Lord. That's all right. I also ask Keith who was coming up on the coaches show in the breaks or we're doing great. You mean the time I give you a second? Yeah. Yeah. That's a great one. But talking the delay of game penalties or like the silly turnovers, like I understand that's the thing that the Browns were trying to leverage with the decision of Dishon Watson. But it's like, all right. But if you can't throw the ball over the middle of the field, if you can't tell the difference, if you're on that stage, we're gonna five yard pass in a 10 yard pass. That's what we're talking about just clearing that bar. I think that's what that is. What that has to be. Bo Nick's another

6:42example I probably should have brought up fantastic offensive line. You had so many good weapons when Portland Sutton's your number two. You're doing a lot of things right. Sean patents a great head coach and it's like, well, all right, but Bo still despite what people thought about him college, he still has to make enough throws. He still has to make enough passes. He still has to have that talent enough to in order to go ahead and make it all work. And so the question the Browns have to ask themselves. I think this real divide and where some people lie is will Dishon be able to clear that low, low bar in order to make the environment work for him. Well, but that's what I find most interesting about this because I do think with time a quarterback can learn to do those things that we're talking about the functionality things. But I don't think you can do anything about if you're just cooked is a quarterback. You don't have confidence. You're wildly inaccurate. It's never going to work. And then you go to Shador and is no matter what people think about Shador, he did show enough actual playmaking ability. And I think that's why I'm so fascinated about this.

7:42Is I understand they might think having Shador out there in week one is a liability if the plays are delayed a bit or and I really do understand that. I just I can't get over if the car can't if the engine doesn't work in the thing, it's not going anywhere. I at least Shador has the engine. I don't know Dishon has the engine, the transmission, the headlights. I don't know. He's got anything. But if he did, he drive that thing 86 and a 60. I tell you that he's pretty good cars these days. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. We fast with cars. Maybe picked a different but 2 1 6 4 7 4 0092. What's the bar that whoever the brown starting quarterback is the most games this year has to clear heading back to campus timed web grades your entire tech setup switched a Verizon buy or bring a qualifying smartphone and get a smartwatch and a tablet on us. That's all your essential gear for zero extra dollars. Ace your classes track your fitness and stream your favorite shows. Visit Verizon.com or your local store today. Bring an eligible phone to purchase a new phone with device payment on post-paid

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