What if birth isn’t failing, it’s being interrupted?

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2:04today is with childbirth education expert, Emmy Robin, about her beautiful book, Faithful Beginnings, a dualist guide to eliminating fear and birthing with confidence. The book that delves deeply into the fears that often surround birth and emphasizes the importance of an undisturbed physiological birth free from unnecessary interventions. Emmy, welcome so much to the 10 Penny Files. Thank you for joining us here today. Thank you so much for having me. I feel so honored. Well, I just love your book. I love the cover of your book and everything about it is just beautiful. But for those that don't know, what is a job description of a doula? And how is a doula different from a midwife? Yeah, great question. So a doula is your support person. A lot of what I do as a doula is I help empower and educate my mama so that they can go into their birth in blissful joy and not have fear and really just understand

3:07all the benefits and risks of any intervention that's offered to them. And I help advocate for them. I'll teach their partners as well. And then the midwife is somebody who is very medically trained. They are very, very trained. A lot of people think, oh, a midwife, they're not a doctor. They are a doctor. They are very, very trained in vaginal birth. They help women have physiologic birth. And yeah, so the doula's the mama's support. And the midwife is the person there in case of any medical emergencies. Well, that's really a good explanation. And I thought the mothers need support even if they've had 10 kids. Yeah, I mean, it's nice because then your husband can, you know, go make himself a sandwich and not have to worry about leaving you alone. It really is a beautiful thing to have somebody there who really just understands physiologic birth and doesn't have any fear around it. To also, a lot of the times I say I'm dueling the husband and not the wife, the wife's

4:10just ready to get alert. Yeah, a lot of the times it's the husbands who have the fear. So yeah, I'm there to just kind of keep the presence and the energy calm and in full trust and surrender. And yeah, it's awesome. I love my job. It comes through. It's really obvious. You know, in your book of the second, the first chapter is about redemption and redemptive birth. What are those? So in today's day and age, there's a lot of birth trauma. And it can be anything from something that physically happened or something like your autonomy taken away. There's lots of different ways that trauma can present itself, especially in birth. And a lot of women find that after they give birth that they just they wish that it would have happened differently. And so, you know, whether it was a C section or they had a vaginal birth and something else happened. And so redemption birth is what I call it is really where a mother kind of fully breaks down what happened

5:15in her birth trauma understands where the physiologic process was disrupted or maybe where her preparation might have gone astray. And I help educate and empower them to really understand that, fully trust the process of birth. And then most of the time, they're able to have a beautiful birth that is in full sovereignty's autonomy. And yeah, it's very redemptive. It's just a really beautiful thing to witness. I help a lot of women have what's called V-backs, which is a vaginal birth after Cessarian, which is so crazy because so many people don't think that that's even pot made it look like what you can have a vaginal birth after you've had a C section absolutely. And it is actually encouraged to do so. Just because you've had a Cessarian section does not mean that you cannot have a vaginal birth after that. And it actually is very healing and very

6:16fulfilling to do that. So yeah, that's that's a lot of what I do is I help people process, you know, what happened in your birth. And yeah, really just help empower and educate them for if they want to have another baby and how to do it in their sovereignty and full autonomy. It's a you want to describe in most of your book, which is I'm not sure that that because of my green screen that we have here for those that are just listening for with those that can see it. This is the cover of the book. It just says it all right there in your cover. And you go on to describe a peaceful process of natural birthing that everyone should experience. Post don't. In a society saturated with fear and stress, how does chronic stress affect the nervous system at that subsequently affects labor, birth, and even postpartum recovery? Yeah, I mean, our nervous system, look, God designed our nervous system. That's the first thing to develop in utero, you know, is the nervous system, right? Like it has to be important. If that's

7:21the very first thing that's designed in the human body. And it really does drive and control a lot of our health, right? So I have a whole speech called before the shots, before the vaccines, right? It's it's our birth. It's a lot of birth trauma. Babies, you know, pulling on the brachial plexus and all these things. But to answer your question, the chronic stress and fear just surrounding our society, I mean, like the past hundred years there has just been an insane, you know, just propaganda that has just completely disconnected us from our bodies and from physiologic birth, you know, to birth at home with a midwife is the alternative. That's the that's the unnatural thing to do. And to birth in the hospital is the mainstream. And it's like, what? That should it should be the other way. The way God designed us to birth.

8:22And our nervous system drives a lot of that. So in conception, I mean, there's a new study out of UCSF, UCSF. That was done. That shows that our ovaries and our uterus are neuroendocrine organs. They are literally, they work with our nervous system. There are sympathetic fibers woven through our uterus, woven through our ovaries, you know, women that I mostly help are in their 40s. And they're getting pregnant very naturally, you know, but they're also like very regulated women. They're taking care of their bodies. They're living mostly toxin-free life, you know. And so the fear, the stress, right, that's going to put people into fight or flight. You're going to be living in sympathetic and that is going to affect your uterus and your ovaries, right? So a lot of conception is really nervous system-based, right? It's not. And we've been told, you know, oh, when you, when you're over 35, your eggs are just done. You just, they just shrivel and die,

9:26and you can't get pregnant, you know, and that's not true. That's not true at all. Your health is really, you know, your nervous system. And in pregnancy, again, we're growing a human. We're growing a life. We're also growing their nervous system. So it is really important to stay regulated, to, you know, de-stress during pregnancy. And then going into your birth, the nervous system literally drives labor and birth. That is it. It's, you have to feel safe, supported, love, you know, these are things that help aid in a beautiful physiologic birth. And fear, cortisol will block all of that. And I find that if you have this beautiful physiologic birth and all of the hormone process and everything happens so beautifully without being disrupted, the health of the maternal postpartum, it shows. It really does show. I do believe

10:27PPA and PPD are direct result of that hormonal process being completely disrupted in birth, whether it be Potosin or, you know, C-section or any of these things. I see it. I see the postpartum anxiety. I see the long-term health, you know, how we birth our babies and how we treat our bodies, especially those first 40 days after we have a baby. It affects our health for the next 40 years, you know, breastfeeding. Every year that you breastfeed, you know, you're, you're lowering your risk of breast and ovarian cancer. It's, it's so important to nurture our nervous system and all things when we are creating life, but also on the other side for the baby for neonatal health. I mean, it is so important for their nervous system to be honored in, in this whole process too. And a lot of the times in society, we're not thinking about the baby's experience in birth. We're just thinking like, I'm done being pregnant. I got to get this baby out, you know, like, let's push

11:28it. Let's, let's make these contractions closer. Let's do it, you know, and it's a lot of the times, you know, it, it just messes with the baby's nervous system. And, you know, it's, they come out and they're so dysregulated and then you add shots and then you add things like that on top of it. And you're already this perfect storm that this baby comes out into the world and you're adding more and more and more. So I would also say like, you know, like you get into it, looking into like autism and things like that, look at the birth, start with the birth, start with the pregnancy, the health of the mother or her diet, nutrition, all these things. But yeah, cortisol, stress, all of these being in sympathetic when you're trying to conceive, when you're pregnant, when you give birth, you have to, you have to learn how to really support your nervous system because it really does it, it, it, it creates a beautiful space for the maternal health long term and the neonatal health. You know, I remember way back when long time ago when I was in medical

12:31school and when we got out of our medical school training in the classroom and we went into our clinical rotations, you know, one of our required clinical rotations was on the OB floor and then when we were interns in the hospital, we had to do a month of OB and when I was in intern at this one hospital, I will never forget this as long as I live. There was a young girl there, young like 15 maybe and this was 40 years ago and and there was nobody in the hospital and she went into labor and was in distress and there was two other deliveries that were going on at the same time and there was nobody to deliver her and there was all these urgent messages going over and over on the overhead in the in the hospital, you know, stat call to OB-Gint set. They finally got two general surgeons that came up there and she was having such bad decels that did a cesarean section on her under local anesthesia. Yeah, they call it a crash, it's a crash C section. And there was

13:31there was there was no anesthetic just a local like light cane across her belly. I checked back in on that young girl a few days later because I thought, oh my gosh, the trauma of that and her even thinking, you know, she was young and I think she was, it was an inner city hospital many years ago. I think she may have even been pregnant by, you know, a brother or a father or something like that. It was like, I thought about her all of these years and wondered, you know, what kind of trauma did that? Yeah, it was on her and the baby when when the app was born. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, she was in so much fear and distress and nobody was able to kind of help calm that, you know, but that, I mean, the decels, all of these things, you know, that the baby is communicating with the mother all through labor and it's communicating through oxytocin. And I talk a lot about, you know, everybody's like, oh, you know, I just give me the epidural, you know, and God really did create

14:34this, this intensity of labor because when you feel that, when you feel the intensity of labor, which first of all is controlled by oxytocin flow, which is the love hormone, right? So the more relaxed you are and the less you have the cortisol, the more love is going to be flowing through your body and making your uterus contract. But when that happens, you are getting natural endorphins. It's a loop that happens. It's like release oxytocin, make the uterus contract, baby, you know, creates this intensity, right? We call it contraction. And it's, you know, it's it's hard. But if you really, truly understand what's going on with your body, this is why women do home birth over and over and over and over again, you know, because it is intense, but it's also a really beautiful thing. And then you get flooded with endorphins. And this whole time, it is crossing the blood brain barriers going into your placenta and the baby is getting flooded with oxytocin and the baby is getting flooded with endorphins. And so this is how babies really tolerate labor. This is, this is, you got to think of the process of what's happening

15:35to that baby inside of you. And it's like, how is their heart rate staying so steady? How are they, you know, how is this happening? You know, you watch a home birth and most of the time, it's like the babies just chill all the way till they come out. And it's, it's really cool to just witness, this is how God created a, we're supposed to be born bathed in love. And when you get an epidural, what it really does is it doesn't just numb the process of your physical being from, you know, the waist down, but it also cuts off that sensation loop to your brain. So your brain stops releasing oxytocin, right? So then we need the synthetic, we need the pitocin to raise those contractions back up. And then it also will stop releasing those natural endorphins. So we lose the communication with baby. And what happens is is those babies freak out. They're like, where's mommy? What happened? We just, you know, so a lot of the times you'll see those axels or the decels after a woman gets an epidural or when she gets the pitocin and the baby's just getting squeezed like, dark, dark, dark, dark, you know, but it's not natural. The baby's not

16:37communicating like, okay, I'm ready for another one, you know? And it's just, it's so sad what I witness in the hospital because they're, they, they, it's a, it's pathology. It's also Iatrogenic care. They're, they're trying to do things to prevent things. And then it causes things that they need to save. So it's like, it's just this, it's this loop that I always say, like on my podcast, I say, I really wish that like these obese can unlearn. And there are a lot of them out there that about, you know, you know, Dr. Stewart Fishvine, like, there's, there's obese that have unlearned what they learned. And I'm like, Oh, wow, that's what birth can be if we just leave it alone. Yeah, that's just it because it's become such a, it's, it's a procedure. And, and procedure to, I remember, you know, that story that I told you, that was when I was still a medical student. And then when I got to be an intern, we, there were 12 interns in our hospital, in the hospital where it was, was intercity Detroit, not saving there anymore. And we,

17:41we, there were 24 of us. And you had a partner that you were rotating all the way through. And neither one of us liked to be. We just hope that because it was so, it was so in industrial. And it was so like a, a procedure that had to be done. And they do it more today than they did back then. But you know, oh, we're just go, you know, you're having a hard time here. We're just going to have a, a C section, because I'm leaving a vacation tomorrow. So we need to get this over with, right? Induction, induction, induction, induction. They will find any excuse to induce a woman. And when we do that, we're not thinking about the baby's experience. Right? The baby isn't, isn't telling the body, okay, I'm ready. My nervous system is ready for this whole process that's about to happen. Right. And, and it's just, it's so sad because of that cascade, you know, the cascade of interventions. And I really, I love the fact that there are obstetricians out there for those medical reasons. But it should be about 5% in my opinion. 5%

18:47of women, you know, 5% of the time, we need a surgeon to step in. But it's so sad that we're inching towards 40%. And that's an average. You go to some hospitals. It's 85, 90%. You go to some hospitals. Maybe it's 20%. So it's, you know, it's inching up to 40% nationwide. And that is so sad because we're not thinking generationally what this is going to do to our pelvis, to head size, to in a hundred years from now, if all these women continue to get C sections, what is that going to do to our species in general? Right? Like it's, it's, it's going to require surgery. And then physiologic birth is just going to be like a past, like what? They used to actually give birth out of their vagina. Like it's going to be so rare. And so I mean, I have fear that they're going to come after home birth just in general, you know, like women's autonomy and, and oh no, you can't do this anymore. And it's going to be something, you know,

19:48that we have to hide and do, you know, it's, it just, with the way the world's going, it just scares me. And so I just want to really tell people that, you know, look, you can, you can go to a hospital, but you really have to educate yourself on how our body works. And we don't even learn these things. We don't learn it in school. Nobody understands that. I was in Washington, DC a few weeks ago at the Heritage Foundation and Secretary Kennedy was talking about truth and transparency in pricing. And he was an example about he said, so, you know, a woman can be pregnant and she can call the hospital every day saying, you know, is my insurance going to cover this or I'm a cash paying patient? How much is this going to cost me? And we'll never find out. So he took it upon himself to call 25 hospitals in the greater New York area, just, you know, you know, away from Manhattan. And what he found out was that the range in price for a normal

20:52delivery in the hospital, uncomplicated delivery, ranged from $1,600 to $21,000. And he said, how can the same procedure doing the same thing that could be done at home in your living room cost this much money and have such a wide range like that? Which I hope not to be just very disturbing. 1600. I've never heard of anything less than 6,000. I mean, you're paying for the stay. They charge like $100 per latex glove. I mean, I had a mom that was refusing to pay her hospital bill because she was like, what do you? I walked in there in transition. Like, I know I was with her. She's like, I walked in in transition. And I had my baby. I didn't have any medication. I refused the cervical checks. I refused the IV port. Like, and her bill was like $11,000. And she was like, what are you charging me for? And she got an itemized bill and they had charged an extra

21:54$2,000 because she was a V-back. So it had vaginal birth and then an item line $2,000 V-back because she was a vaginal birth after a C-section. It was, I was like, this is crazy. But they were charging her for Tylenol that she never took. She was like, I refused it. I didn't want to take the Tylenol. They were charging her for latex gloves. I mean, it was just, it was crazy to see what that hospital charge. Did she win? Oh, yeah. They dropped her bill, her whole bill. She got her whole bill because she was able to prove like, she's like, what are you talking about? Yeah. Well, this is such a great conversation. And we've got so many more things to talk about. But we're going to take a short break right now to hear from our sponsors. So hold that thought. I mean, this is really, really great stuff. Our sponsors are coming up from americaoutloud.news and they play the 10 penny files on the iHeartRadio network daily at 3 p.m. Eastern time Monday through Friday. If you've missed any of these great conversations, you can find the 10 penny files on Spotify,

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31:14The book that delves deeply into the fears that often surround birth and emphasizes the importance of undisturbed physiological birthing free from unnecessary inventions. Yay! So let me tell you a little bit more about today's guest, Emmy Robin is a dedicated birth worker and somatic birth trauma coach who has made a significant impact in the field of child birth education and support. With years of experience and unbelievable passion that just comes right through her during this conversation, Emmy specializes in helping couples learn about physiological birth and the importance of the nervous system. Her book Faithful Beginnings was a number one bestseller in 2025. Aside from her childbirth work, Emmy Robin also is an actress where she was an Andy Wakefield movie, protocol seven. I want to go back and talk a little bit about your five pillars that you talk about in your book. I've heard that emphasized that nourishment is more than just eating for pregnancy. What are those five pillars and why should

32:19they be the focus of pregnancy? Yeah, movement, mindfulness, meditation, hydration, nutrition. These things are so, so, so important in pregnancy and they really aren't discussed with women through their obstetrician. You know, women who do choose to go to the hospital and do it with an obstetrician, you're not really getting information on how to have a healthy pregnancy, right? You're just kind of fed through the take the glucose test at 26, 28 weeks and you're not really told how to really help yourself and your body, you know, work through if you are prone to gestational diabetes, how to prevent and how to manage your blood sugar levels throughout your pregnancy. And by the time you get offered that glucose test at 26, 28 weeks, you've already pretty much done the damage, you know, with your pancreas and all that blood sugar spiking. So why not start educating yourself on how to be really, really healthy through pregnancy

33:21before you get pregnant? And so that's what I was hoping with my book because as a doula, this is something that I've witnessed, you know, gestational diabetes is something that is really becoming very common, especially with our diets in America and the quality of food that we have available to us. And then gestational diabetes can lead to pre-clampsia. So we're seeing a rise in gestational diabetes. We're also seeing a rise in pre-clampsia. So if you can manage your diet really, you know, lowering your, lowering your sugars, you know, preferably no sugars, with your pregnancy and low carbs, you know, get your sugars from fruit and stuff like that. But lower carb, you know, I'm not saying be keto through your pregnancy, obviously, we need carbohydrates, but being very, very smart about that in your diet. And the way that I say, like as a doula, how I kind of educate my mama's to advocate for themselves is, you know, look, you're going to

34:23be offered a glucose test, most likely the glucola drink. Go look up the ingredients in that. It's pretty awful. And you're drinking somewhere between 50 to 100 grams of sugar, depending on which one your OB wants you to do. And then your body is going to react to that. And not just to that, but to the chemicals in the drink. And then a step down from that, they're going to offer you what's called the fresh test. And so that's like a lemonade, like a natural lemonade, but you're still adjusting 50 to 75 grams of sugar. And it's just, that's a lot. That's a lot of sugar. And what I say is, you know, what is the result of that test? How are you going to change what you're doing through your through your pregnancy to stay healthy? Well, they're most likely going to send you to an MFM, a maternal fetal medicine doctor, so that they can do ultrasound after ultrasound after ultrasound for the rest of your pregnancy. But it's not changing your diet. And you're not seeing what's actually spiking your blood sugar. So I tell people get to learn the foods that you eat on a daily basis and how they affect your

35:25blood sugar. How empowering is that? Because then you're not taking a test for anybody else. You're learning how these foods that you're eating on a daily basis are affecting you. So with my second pregnancy, I was pricking my finger four times a day. I'd do a fasting and I'd do a blood sugar one hour after every meal that I ate. And I learned that corn, rice, beans, these things were spiking my blood sugar through the roof. And I was eating chipotle at the time, like that. But go to pregnancy favorite food. That's a lot of blood sugar spiking, right? So I immediately altered my diet to things that didn't spike my blood sugar. And that was empowering to me. And if you were to go to your obstetrician and say, I would rather prick my finger with the foods that I eat to see versus drinking this drink, they would think you're crazy. They'd be like, no, I have to know if you're gestationally diabetic. Okay, well, what's that going to do? What are you going to do? I'm going to change my diet. I'm already eating as if I'm gestationally diabetic. So I tell people in my book, eat as if you already have a diagnosis. Just eat as if you're gestationally

36:29diabetic. What's the harm in that? Right? Like if anything, you're going to control your weight gain, you're going to be very, very healthy. You're not spiking your blood sugar, which is very healthy for your baby. Right. So that's the nutrition pillar. And then hydration, people forget about hydration and pregnancy. And it is so, so important. You need to be drinking. They say half your weight, half your weight announces plus 20, right? But everybody is different on that. That's a lot to some people. And that's not enough for others. I always like for me, you know, I'm about 160 pounds. So I'm going to do somewhere between 90 to 100 ounces of water comfortably a day. And that's good for me, you know, but what's good for me might not be good for other people. But we need to make sure that we're hydrating. And something that I found just doing my doula work over the years is that a lot of women stop drinking water at nighttime, especially towards the end of pregnancy. Why? Because it makes you have to get up and go to the bathroom a lot. And a lot of women are like, I'm just so

37:33tired. I don't want to get up and go to the bathroom. But the problem with that is, you know, that's 12-hour window from 9 p.m. to 9 a.m. That your baby is needing to also hydrate. Your body is needing to replenish that amniotic fluid, which your baby drinks, your baby urinates, and your kidneys and your baby's kidneys. Like all of these things are still very, very important. And what happens as a human when you become dehydrated? Your blood pressure goes up, right? A lot of people who are dehydrated, your blood pressure goes up. And so there was a lot of moms that would go to their appointment at 10 a.m. You know, and they would be, they'd have protein in their urine, their blood pressure would be high. And they'd be like, I don't get it. I drink so much water, I work out, I'm healthy, you know, and they're starting to do all these tests like I pre-clampsia and I'll get to them and I'll have like a 40-ounce thing of water. And I'm like, just drink this, just drink this. Drink this for the next two hours while we sit here and hang out. And then we're

38:34going to redo your blood pressure, right? Go back to the doctor, go get your blood pressure taken, go pee again, there's no protein in her urine, and her blood pressure is low. Her blood pressure is back down low. And so I'm like dehydration can lead to a lot of things in pregnancy that women aren't really told. So it's so, so important to hydrate yourself 24-7. You know, I'm not saying wake up and drink 20 ounces of water. But if you wake up to your night, have a couple of sips of water before you go back to bed. You still need to hydrate throughout the day. And then movement is obvious. You should always be moving. Even if you go for a 30-minute walk in your pregnancy, it's so important for balance, just for blood pressure or for everything. It just keeps your system functioning. Mindfulness and that's like my somatic work, just like understanding your body, listening to your body. And I do meditation in prayer. I do find that my relationship with Jesus keeps my nervous system very regulated. And it's awesome. So just however you can

39:39regulate your nervous system on a daily basis, that's going to help you a lot in your in your pregnancy. So yeah, those five things. If you do those and a lot of women who are going for a natural physiologic birth, they understand these pillars and they do take them very seriously. Because that is how you you will have a more, you'll be prone to have a more beautiful birth. The healthier you are, the healthier you're taking care of yourself. It really it really does show in the birth. You know, you talk a lot in your book about, you've already spoken a little bit on the show here about the nervous system connection to everything. How do you work with women who have had either a bad experience like, well, maybe the first baby was born in the hospital and it was a really bad experience, or they were told really frightening stories about birth from friends or family members and they're like, I'm not going to do that. That's uncomfortable. You know, how do you talk to them and how do you get them to reconnect with

40:43the beauties of given birth? Yeah, I mean, that you you hit the nail on the head when you talked about the birth trauma stories, right? Like so we might not have a physically experienced birth yet. And some women are like, I don't even know if I want to have a kid, but from the stories I've heard, I don't want to have a kid, right? So yeah, there's a lot that's shared and how I really work with women is I listen to their story or I listen to the stories that they've heard. And we go through those stories and we break it down, you know, little by little, you know, I'll even stop and be like, okay, so did you hear how you were talked to in your prenatal? Did you hear how you were kind of already prepped for X, Y, and Z? Because a lot of it is gaslighting manipulation. I mean, they have little ways of getting women to really just submit to what they want, right? And I've seen it extreme in the hospital. So I really have to emphasize,

41:50again, on the importance of learning what we never learned in school. And that is how God created our body to work. And that and I'm not just talking about having a period and then ovulating because that also is very medicalized. And a lot of and when I even got my childbirth education certification, it was a lot of indoctrination. And I look back at that and I'm like, oh wow, okay, that's like the system controlling the system because you're taught this evidence-based childbirth education. And so a lot of our fears and a lot of the stories that we hear are based upon the evidence-based childbirth education system, meaning it was a system that was studied on women in hospitals paid by pharmaceutical companies to get what we now use as, you know, our standard practices, our protocols in the hospital, right? One to four, you're in early labor, four to seven, you're in active seven to ten, you're in transition. And then you push when

42:52you're 10 centimeters, you know, it's like, oh, well, how do we know these numbers? Well, you're submitting to cervical checks. You're allowing people to stick their hand inside of your cervix with which is a sphincter. So it's like, it's to me, I'm just like, how do people really, because I talk about it in my book, too, a lot. As a doula, I would see women get cervical checked at home. And they'd be at a two. And then they would get so discouraged because they would feel like, oh my gosh, my contractions are so close, you know, and I feel like I'm in it. And they would get discouraged. And I would see it in their face, right? And I would have to like remind them, like, you are in this and we're just taking it one at a time and a two doesn't mean anything. And if they really believed that and they went back into their body, they'd have their baby like an hour later. And the midwife would be like, what is happening? Right? Because it's just, they're like, oh, my gosh, like, I was taught that this number means something. And that number

43:53really means nothing because I've also seen women in hospitals that are at a 10. And then they're told like, okay, let's do some practice pushing. Let's start pushing. And like, what are we doing? Like the baby will let you know when they're in the right position to come out just because your cervix is at a 10 means nothing. You could be at a 10 for 12 hours. Women do it all the time in the hospital, like they'll transfer from home birth because they've been at a 10 and they're exhausted and then they get the epidural. And then they're still at a 10 for the next 15 hours. And then their body pushes the baby out. And it's like, what are we doing? So it's that. It's the timing of the contractions. It's, it's all of this stuff. That's what leads to these crazy stories. When I hear women tell these stories, they're like, well, I was, I was stuck at a six. I had failure to progress. This is, this is the diagnosis that they give women. They, their bodies just don't work. Your body just doesn't go past a six. And I'm like, well, let's talk about what happened before you got to that six. And then once you got to that six, you probably had a hand going inside of

44:56your body a couple of times to tell you where you were at. You got to fluorescent lights. So, you know, I have a whole chapter in my book that talks about, you know, your labor has been disrupted at least 10 times before you even see your OB. You know, and it's, and it's so sad that women don't understand this that no, your body didn't fail you. Your body did not fail you. Your cousin's body didn't fail her. Your best friend's body didn't fail her. Her physiologic birth was messed with, right? And she just didn't know what she didn't know. And so that's why I wrote this book. That's why I did my podcast. That's why I want to be the Tony Robbins Adulis. I want to talk to like 10,000 women and just be like, your ability works. You're not broken and you're not broken. I just want people to understand like these birth trauma stories. I can break them down. I can break them down and I can help women understand exactly where the process

46:01was messed with, whether it was a test that was done in a diagnosis that was given that made her have more tests and more tests and more and then come to find out like, oh, everything was fine and I didn't need all that, you know, it's just there's so much intervention that happens in our birth system, you know, and it's just so sad because if more people were educated on how our body actually works, then they would be less likely to be like, you know what, I want to, I want to go do this, you know, if you understand the benefits of something, you're less likely to add risk. You know, in your book, the name of your book is Faithful Beginnings has a chapter on choosing a birth team. How does the right birth team influence the whole birthing experience? Yeah, I mean, so I talk a lot about the nervous system and how that drives birth for sure and having your nervous system feel calm is so important,

47:06which means you have to feel safe. You really do. You have to feel safe in your body when you're giving birth, meaning there aren't strangers around you. And when you're birthing in a hospital, you've talked to so many strangers, you've talked to the chicken person, you've talked to your labor and delivery nurse that you've been assigned to. Well, that's like triage is a totally different nurse, you know, then you get to L&D and then you get another new nurse. It's like you've never met these people, right? They're strangers to you and you might not even get your OB if they're not on call, you might get a resident, you know, you might get somebody you've never met in a most intimate part of your life, you know. So having somebody there that when they show up in your birth, your body feels calm. You feel so, okay, I feel like I can relax because they're here, right? And that's so, so important because our eventual vagal system is the beginning. That's everything. What we see, what we smell, what we hear, right? Touch. These are as mammals,

48:08this is really, really important to what drives the oxytocin in our body and keeps the cord is all low. So if you have somebody in there that's like talking really loud or saying things with fear, like let's say, you know, your mother-in-law comes over because she wants to be a part of your birth. It's like, please don't have anybody in your birth that doesn't understand how to support a physiologic birth, meaning keeping the lights low, keeping the sounds low, not disrupting mom, right? You let mom be in labor land, right? You don't need to be asking questions and all of these things. And so that's really important for your support people, right? So helping your husband understand how he can support you, having a doula that knows how to support you, just like bringing usips of water, little bites of food, but not like asking questions or, you know, just letting mom labor. And then as far as hiring your medical provider, your midwife, I go over a lot of questions

49:09to ask, you know, like, how do you feel with me going past 42 weeks? How do you feel about if my baby's breach, you know, do you know how to deliver a breach baby? How do you feel about, like, there's just a lot of things that you can ask to understand how they feel about physiologic birth, right? And get a good feel where they're fearless because there's a lot of people that are in birth work that experience things and they hold on to it, you know, if a midwife had just experienced a hemorrhage, she's going to probably carry that into other births and, you know, manage the birth with that, again, I turned in at care to try to prevent the hemorrhage, which a lot of the times I explain causes the hemorrhage. So, you know, I link caster oil to hemorrhage. It's like when we're messing with the physiology, you know, so you have to find a team that really understands physiologic birth and doesn't bring fear into your space and really makes you feel

50:13calm and safe. So, what are, you know, some people just are not comfortable with home birth, no matter what, even if they, you know, by all intents and purposes and by assessment, it should just be an easy, beautiful process. Yeah, let's, if moms are going to go to the hospital for, for whatever reason, or maybe they've got an underlying condition that they need to go to the hospital, they should be more closely. Yeah. What do you tell moms to consider and to take care of and make sure that they do before they're actually in that birthing process? You tell them to write it like a, like a birth plan and when you're, I'm not going to vex, don't you dare give my baby vex and, you know, don't put that goobie stuff in the eyes, do you? Yeah. I mean, all of those things, that's again, that's giving medical advice, so I can't really do that, but I can, I can educate them on the importance of why God gave us lower vitamin K at birth, right?

51:15Like, allowing the stem cells to go through for that first week to heal any kind of internal injuries, right? But I, that's what I do is I kind of empower them with the benefits of things, right? So I don't tell people don't birth at the hospital, go birth at the hospital, because guess what? If that's where you feel safe, that is where your body is going to work. But you have to understand the interventions that happen and the protocols and how they think. It's not the obes or L&D nurses are bad people. They're amazing. They're out there, like trying to help women, right? They just don't know what they don't know. They haven't seen what I've seen, right? They've only seen like crazy every birth to, I mean, even if a mom comes in like pushing her baby out, it's, oh my gosh, it's crazy. We got to do this. We got to do this. This is nuts. What? How? You know, it's just everything is so escalated there because it's the fluorescent lights and it's the sounds. And so like I said, I have the chapter on, you know, what causes that failure to progress,

52:18right? And then just learning about alternatives, you know, like if your contractions do slow down, you know, you can ask for a breast, breast pump to, you know, raise your oxytocin level as versus patosin. There's always, this is what I do is I teach women how to advocate for themselves in the more natural ways, like bring some clary sage and an oil diffuser, ask them to keep the lights low, turn the sounds off, don't listen to that beep, beep, beep, the whole time, you know, try to get, if you're going to do continuous fetal monitoring, you know, do the wireless one that's not cutting into you with the band and understand that like, again, that's just, that leads to a lot of things too, you know, when you're giving your, when you give your power away, when you give your autonomy away to someone else, when you're outsourcing these things, you have to understand that it doesn't relieve your anxiety. It actually does the opposite. And so having a doula, if you're going to have a baby in the hospital, hire a doula, because they can help you

53:26kind of relieve that anxiety, right, like keeping the lights low, putting twinkle lights up, or what, making it feel more like home, if you want to do it at the hospital, make your L&D room feel like you're at home, you know, put some music on, you know, I listen to worship music when I have my babies and, and put, you know, essential oils in that will help produce oxytocin and calm your nervous system lavender or clary sage. There's things that you can do to support yourself, but hopefully you're going into spontaneous labor, right, and just understand physiologic birth, understand your risks, you know, whatever, whatever labeled you high risk, do your research and figure out, you know, is this high risk, is this something that I can manage, is this something, you know, just do your research. So many people are just outsourcing their power, like, oh, I just trust my doctor, and it's that just leaves you so much. It's not just in, you know, all these other diagnoses that happen just in life as humans, right, but birth is where it

54:32starts. And when you're outsourcing your power, and again, I loved your episode with Heidi on mom strong, you know, it really, it starts with the birth. It really does because as a woman, if you are holding onto your power and you're not outsourcing your autonomy and you're birthing your baby because you've done the research and you understand how God created your body and you aren't intervening with this process and you have this baby and this baby's on you and, you know, you're not cutting that cord right away and you're, you're making these decisions because your midwife supports that autonomy and then, you know, you're not doing all these shots and things because you're not being coerced into it because a midwife's not going to do that. And you're breastfeeding your baby, you're having this beautiful, you know, mother baby diet and you're co-sleeping with your baby, you're going to be more likely to like do things more naturally, your nervous system is going to be more regulated. You're going to be more confident

55:33as a mother because you started that impregnancy and it does carry over. You know, I mean, we got less than one minute left. Sorry. I was here today. I was trying to figure out a nice place to like intercede in that. Yeah. Book faithful beginnings. I believe it's a little book. It's not very big. It makes it really readable for anybody. I think this would be a great gift as a is for every, you know, young woman that's that's that's pregnant so that you can understand what's going on. I made it short for the husband. Oh, really? Okay. Well, we've got like a minute left. Yeah. I want you to tell the tell what you take, take away is and I think you have a master class that people can join. I do. I do master classes. I have another one coming up. Keep it short. Sorry. Yeah. I have another one coming up this summer. I'll have it posted on my website. It's emi robandula.com. E-M-M-Y-R-O-B-B-I-N-D-O-U-L-A.com and you can get my book there too. That's perfect. Yes. And I believe that this is the perfect book for everyone. You know, if you just

56:34found out you were pregnant and you're trying to figure out what that whole experience is going to be like and particularly because it's faith-based. Mm-hmm. It does lend itself in that direction. So and I will put your master class and you're in all those things down in the show notes. Yeah. So important for women to get into this. So with that, I want to thank you so much for being with us today. Thank you for your passion. It just comes over like bubbles, bubbles, bubbles, bubbles. Oh, thank you. This is everywhere. And all the women that are listening to this that you could be so lucky to have a that loves you this much and bubbles over so much. That would just be great. So I want to thank you for being here. Thank you for all of us. All everybody who's listened to us today. We'll hope that you'll get this book because it's really important. And when you go out by by several, because then you can have them ready for the next person that you know in your life that's getting pregnant. So with that, I want to close out with one of my favorite verses from the Bible. I close every one of my podcasts with this, whether they are live or pre-recorded, which is Romans 12, 12, rejoice in. Oh, be patient in trouble and be persistent in

57:39prayer. And those babies sure are reason to be rejoicing and hope. So for all the rest of you, have a great rest of your day, everyone. We will see you at 3 p.m. tomorrow or the next time on the 10 penny files. Thank you so much for being here. Goodbye and God bless.