WCW Retro with "Maestro" Rob Kellum - Sis Sisake

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1:22Hello everyone, welcome to WCW Retro. I'm your host, Maestro Rob Kelum, aka Papa Stroke, and I'm great to have you guys here with us tonight. Our special guest will be the one and only indie sensation Sis Siaki will be joining us momentarily. So I'm really excited to have you on tonight, for us, and thank you guys so much for your thoughts and prayers. Appreciate it. I'm working really hard to get back and 110% and Keetle's Prayer is coming. Thank you guys so much for all the love and support from around the world. For more information on anything on me, Maestro Rob Kelum, go to my official website at robkelum.com for merch or where you can donate, upcoming appearances, etc. So just go to robkelum.com for all the latest. And support BUSC Nation and all the great podcasts, we got BUSC Nation.com.

2:27And with that, let's bring on our guest for the evening. It'll Sis Siaki, are you there? Can you hear me? Yes, I sure can. Woo! How's it going? Pretty good, I'm out to sell. I keep it together, I'm trying to keep it together, what's going to be exciting? Oh, you know, just live in the dream, trying to do anyone. Oh, that's it, that's it, it's so great to have you on the show tonight. Oh, thank you, thank you so much. So yeah, man, so, I mean, for those that are watching, you know, tell us, tell us, you

3:30know, about just tell us about how it all began for Sis Siaki, man. Oh, man, I was just a 13 year old kid that wandered upon a wrestling school and never stopped. Yeah, awesome. Yeah, I used to travel around and go to Indy Shows, I was a fan at one point. So I used to travel around, go to Indy Shows, and then I met Jimmy Valiant, the Boogie man, and that was it. The next week I was at his school, and I had already signed up, and that was it, Indy story. Oh, wow. Man, it's good. So, what was it like, actually, you know, I've been to the Boogie School there in Virginia. Tell us what was like, you know, being at the Tootlands of such a legend in the industry. Well, at first, I didn't really know who he was with me being so young and him an older

4:32man. But then once, of course, I did my research and stuff, I was like, this is insane. Like this man is so nice to me. Like he believes in me. It's insane. It was unbelievable, honestly. Oh, God, I can only imagine, I mean, I know at his school, I mean, he's got like photos of, like, so much history, you know, there's posts on the wall and everything. There's this fascinating to witness. Oh, yeah. Every time you look, you find new pictures. It's ridiculous. Yeah. Does he has someone you up there on there now? Everywhere. There's even a picture of my mom when she was 16 and she met him in Roanoke. Fantastic. Oh, that's awesome. That's so cool. I mean, so I mean, you know, so you've got the training and all that from a bookie

5:36school. Where did it all begin for you once you started branching out in the industry? I think my first, I had like my first like Sasaki match was probably in Princeton. West Virginia, I believe, yeah, that was probably the first place I branched out because in Virginia, you got to have a license and I was still like 15, you know, that was going to work. So me and my mom, my mom would drive me to all these shows and drive me to camp every week. And she just knew it was something I wanted to do. She, because I did karate for 10 years before rustling. So she always had to have something, something to do. And I had gotten to like a first degree black belt in karate. And I was just like, I want something completely different and then this kind of popped up. Mm-hmm. That, that, that's awesome.

6:36That is so cool. Oh, guys, so tell us about your first match, man. What was that like actually having your first match and then front of people? Nerve racking, but like luckily I was in there with, because at Buggies, there's multiple trainers and stuff like that. So I was in there with one of the trainers I was comfortable with. So it was smooth sailing like at Buggies, we have like practice matches and stuff. And I had multiple there and sometimes there's people there and stuff, but like the first match, it was, it was, it was nerve racking, but it went smooth and, you know, I was, I mean, I trained for a good two years before I even had a match in front of anybody like at a crowd, because I was just nervous. I mean, I was a kid, you know? Oh, man, I can only imagine, you know, it's just like, don't you find it even like now? I mean, I don't know when it happened all out with me, you know, even from starting out

7:37to, you know, my last match, so to speak, I mean, it's like that, get those butterflies, you know, right before you go to that Kurt man and it's like, that's like the most nervous you'll ever get right before a match, right? And then once you get to that Kurt, it's like, oh my gosh, you know, it's like I own the world, you know? Yep. Everything goes away. Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing. And those butterflies, you know, I mean, it never goes away. I mean, if you don't have those butterflies before you go out, there's something's wrong somewhere, right? Right. Yeah, exactly. Oh, man, that's so cool. Oh, gosh. So, I mean, from there, actually, when did your journey took place, you know, from that point on? I stayed at Buggies for a while because with me being so young and stuff, it just took

8:39me a while to get certain things, but I stayed in West Virginia a lot for a while and then I branched out to North Carolina and that eventually got me in the door to CWF Mid-Atlantic. And I was in that for a while and I was still young, I was like 18, 17, I was still young, just happy to be there, you know? Oh, man, that's all of some kind of solace. Oh, gosh. So, I mean, during the time you really got your feet wet in the industry, what's been some of the moments that, thus far, I really stuck out for you? Just, it was different working with people that you knew and then like going to people like you completely different and didn't know, especially like being newer to the business, you know what I'm saying?

9:40That was probably the most difficult part, but I mean, I just kind of, I kind of stayed to myself. I stayed to like certain few promotions and then like I took like a maybe like a three-year break and then I came back and was just, mainly, mainly I stayed at Buggies. I helped train other people. That's what I enjoyed doing. I just enjoyed training other people. I enjoyed like molding people trying to get them out their comfort zone and just open them up and go to them and then letting them go somewhere else and get more training. You know what I'm saying? That's really what I enjoyed doing for a really long time. Yeah. You know, that's so, you know, rewarding to, you know, to see someone have, you know, to live their success by carelessly through, you know, what device and training you give them and see them do well, you know, it just, I just don't know that feeling all too well and it's great to, you know, give back to the industry and who are some of the people

10:46that you've helped help us for? Just a lot of the kids that just come through Buggies. I'm usually like, you know, you want to learn a new move. I'm the, you know, I try to help with that and sometimes I'm a test dummy and stuff like that. You know, not the crazy. I just, I just try to be there. Then we have a lot of kids that come in and out of Buggies. Sometimes, you know, they take breaks, they come back, they take breaks and I'm just usually there through the whole town like they'll come back there, but like you're still here. I'm like, yep. I'm still here. That's so cool. That's awesome. Oh, man. So, you know, you've got, you start with the wrestling and then you're training some of the next generation as well. So I mean, is there, well, actually I put this, is there any goals that, you know, you

11:48still want to accomplish for the industry? Maybe get on JCW, Juggalo Championship Wrestling. Maybe get on that. But other than that, just be, just be here. Just be able to continue to wrestle, especially after the cancer and stuff. I'm just happy to be here at this point. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, what tell us about, you know, the obstacles you had to overcome to do what you do. I mean, it's such a, I mean, you got such a great story. I mean, fill us in. Yeah. I was diagnosed with stage three breast cancer at the age of 29, kind of caught me off guard. Like, I was, I was really getting into going to wrestling shows and wrestling everywhere again. And then bam, cancer.

12:49So then I had to go through all that chemo was definitely the worst. I only was able to take one round of that because that put me in the hospital, like literally it was so bad. And I didn't think I was going to come back from that, like, that's, chemo is no joke at all. Oh, yeah. Bless you, man. I can't even imagine, I mean, you had to go and go through. I mean, you do it. Man, it's, it's, it's, I mean, you're such a test, a walking testament of inspiration for others to follow. I mean, I mean, I mean, got to, what, I know you heal all that responsibility very seriously of being that inspiration to others. I mean, if, if there's others out there that are listening to the podcast and listen

13:56your story, what advice would, would you tell them that, you know, what they're going through? Take it day by day, like when you're, when you lose your health, you lose a big part of like your everyday life sometimes. And the only way to heal is really just to take it day by day, because like when I tried to look at it from a long perspective, I was like, I get overwhelmed and then I'm like, I'm not going to make it. I'm not going to be able to come back and do this. And then I'm like, oh, but if you take it day by day, oh, I can get through today, you know, that's the best thing that I've, that's the one, it really helped a lot. Like just, I'm going to focus on the day right now. Right. Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, it's like, you know, you've, you've, you've championed, you know, being in the wrestling business, you've helped others.

14:58I mean, you pretty much championed in life, you know, I mean, you've really accomplished a lot. I mean, if you think about it, I mean, really, I mean, it's huge, what you've done thus far. And I like, I rescue animals in real life too. So like, oh, man, so like, I do a lot. I really do, but sometimes I feel like I can do more. And that's why, like, whenever I'm at my merch table and stuff, I tend to those, like, those kids, like, sometimes they just want that little bit of interaction, you know, because I was one of those kids at one point. And like, you know, it's just, I enjoy, I enjoy the being able to give back a little bit here and there. That's, that's amazing. That's really it. That's so cool. I mean, you mentioned JCW, it's so funny, because I'm actually an OG juggerlo and away.

16:00And turns out, one of the, one of the, one of the Juck, one of the ICP guys used to manage me into these years ago, right? And we met up in like WCW years later. The world moves fast. You work day, even faster, pitching products, drafting reports, analyzing data, Microsoft 365 co-pilot is your AI assistant for work, built into Word, Excel, PowerPoint and other Microsoft 365 apps you use, helping you quickly, right, analyze, create and summarize. So you can cut through clutter and clear path to your best work. Learn more at Microsoft.com slash M365 co-pilot. Go further with the American Express Business Gold Card. Earn three times membership rewards points on flights and prepaid hotels when you book through MxTravel.com. Whether your destination is a business conference or a client meeting, your purchases will

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18:08well, what's the story about? There's these kids. I think they're at a Halloween party where these kids, but dressed up like a little jug of loads of plastic bats chasing, chasing this little kid that looked like M&M. Oh, it's nuts and, um, there's, there's, it showed some story about, you had a match with somebody, right? And, and the finish of the match was, uh, this guy actually took out a twang like, realizer, he killed over, I'm like, oh, my God, crazy. I'm, see, I love wild and outrageous stuff, you know, like, I got to do, I got to do shows at bars and stuff. And I might have got to throw a titty at somebody. It was amazing. Um, I carry them on me at all times. Oh, my gosh, that's wild. Those, those bars, those are outrageous. I love it though. It's so much fun.

19:09Something completely different. I remember, oh, God, who were years ago? I had a bar show, right? And, uh, I was dressed on this guy and I went to give him a power bomb, right? And his head went through the roof by accident. He went to set up, you know, I had him in the air for the power bomb. And we're like through the, the ceiling there, like, oh, my God. Too much height, too much height. I had to literally have to pull him down from the ceiling because he was stuck. Oh, it's easy. Too much. Good times. But yeah, yeah, yeah, JCW, man, what a place, man. I hope you get to introduce him, uh, work with those guys. Those, uh, gosh, it's good to see them still doing their thing, too. Yeah, definitely.

20:09There was, yeah, there was this, uh, uh, uh, guy used to go with the, uh, the gatherings, uh, jugg, uh, jubbernator or, I think that's, I think, jubbernator. And I would, I would do some shows with him and now what's all and make Eminem jokes to him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, uh, too much with, uh, but yeah, that's, that's, that's really cool, man, because I mean, man, I mean, you've done so much already, like we're talking about earlier, I mean, and, uh, and this, you know, I mean, and you're still, God, you're still going strong. I mean, that's, that's, that's amazing. Yeah, they said I was going to be out for a year and a half. I was out for five months, five months while, man, that's, that's incredible. Well, I was like, that don't work for me.

21:10Right? That's, that's amazing. That'll be, God's, it's, I mean, it just, it goes, you have such drive about you, you know, and, you know, I, I wish more people had that, that drive. Well, I had a lot of, I had a lot of people behind me too, and like, checking in or anything and stuff like that, I had a lot of people there. So that, that's good. That's good. That, that support system is, is, is so important, so vital, you know, most definitely. Yeah, I mean, I know it got me through a lot of tough times. I just still get me through a lot of tough times. Absolutely, but, um, yeah, yeah, that's, that's so important. I mean, and, you know, it's support, so important to have that circle, you know, protect your inner circle, you know, I mean, yeah, and, you know, it hadn't guarded with everything, you know, because, you know, this business is, I mean, there's so many fly-by-night, so many, trying to come late leaves and,

22:12Oh, yeah. Uh, uh, snake oral sales people, and, you know, you know, too many champagne dreams with a beer bottle, but it's a tight, look at the individuals, yeah. Perfect. We try it out here. We try it. Yeah, right. But, uh, that, that's great, but I mean, you know, you, you know, I've, I've always, you know, advice other people in the business, you know, that are one that, you know, break through it, you know, the, the guard, I mean, you are your product, you know, you've got to, you know, put value in yourself and know, know your worth, right? I was most definitely, you know, because that's, you know, that's what makes us who we are. I mean, we all should be different, and it's good to be different. I mean, if we're all the same, we would want to watch us. We boring, you know, right?

23:15But that makes you, that makes you unique. That makes you stand out, you know what I mean? And nobody knows more about you than yourself, right? Yeah. Of course. And, you know, and I, some advice, um, uh, Terry Fump told me years ago, it's like, you know, for others to believe in you, you first have to believe in yourself, right? Right. And if you believe in yourself, and people, you know, they'll, they'll vibe off of that, you know, they'll vicariously have that connection with you and no matter, and you have to, once you get that emotional connection with your audience, man, don't follow you through the end to the earth. I know, I learned that, I learned that, my, my, my fans, my freaks, they follow me everywhere, man. It's a beautiful thing in it. It really is. I mean, it's, it's pretty powerful. If you think about it, it really is. And, and, and, and wrestling fans, man, they're so dedicated.

24:19Oh my gosh, they're so loyal. Yeah, I've got a group. I got a group that goes everywhere I go. Like, you know, don't your eyes, right? Yeah, literally. All the people where I'm at, how many groups I'm gonna have? I love, I love that. Oh my gosh, it's, it's, it's, it's an amazing thing, it really is. You know, it's like, this universe is so intertwined, man. I mean, it's so connected, you know, I mean, we're all kind of connected in one way of a shaper and other, and, you know, and, and, and, you know, split the wrestling and, it just makes the world a smaller place, right? Right. Yeah, so that it really is. Gosh, so how long have you, how long have you been wrestling now? It was 2009. I was 13 about to turn 14. So, over half my life at this point, and 30 now?

25:20Oh, you, oh my gosh, you've been wrestling pretty much most of your life. Yeah, that's amazing, that's amazing. That's so cool. Wow. It's definitely, it always gave me, as a child, it's good to have something to, some type of hobby or something. So, it always gave me an outlet, but it really opened me up as a person too. Right, right. Oh man, that, that, that's so cool. Gosh, um, is, is, is there anybody that you would like to, like, step in the ring with, that you haven't, yet, so far? Well, I've been talking about Jason Kinkane. Oh, that's a gift. All right. But, you know, no, no, no, no, no, no, am I ready? No, but am I going to do it? Oh, yeah, if I can. Oh, Jason's, he's amazing. Got, I had some great, I had some great matches with Jason while back.

26:22And, uh, he's been going to be vying. I forgot to mention earlier. I used to team with Jimmy Bayon. That was some of the best times. Oh man, I tagged with him once when I was probably like 17. It was so fun. I bet it was. Oh my god. It was against, uh, Bo James and, uh, Misty James at the time. Yeah, it was, I was a kid. It was so fun though. Oh man, Bo Misty. Yeah, man, that's so cool. I put his story I'm going to tell you about Jimmy, right? When I went in tag matches, I went with him, Jimmy. A guy went to Irish whipping the ropes and he was going to go for a backdrop, right? And the whole time, I'm watching, I'm thinking, oh my gosh, here we go. Because, you know, Jimmy, right? Yeah. Jimmy, don't bump brother. You know, he, he, he, he, he gave up the ropes. Four of the guys in the bags that, here's your backdrop, baby. A boogie and told Patro.

27:25I'm dying laughing. Oh my god. You're boogie, don't bump brother. Oh, I was crying the rest of the mass laughs and so forth. I couldn't keep his straight face. Oh man, Jimmy's great. That's my papa, man. That's my wrestling dad. Oh, he, he's got that fact. He showed me one time his tattoo. He's got the tattoo of papa in the stomach. We see that. It's awesome. Oh, it's so cool. But it's the man. Oh, man, not always a good time in Jimmy. I also love me some Ricky Morton and George South too. Oh, yeah, Ricky Ponky. Oh, man, I love Ricky Morton so much. Ricky, Ricky helped me out a lot when I first started wrestling. Here's Pat, especially when I got into the smokey mountain wrestling. I mean, Robert, we really stuck the neck out for me with, you know, man, I was forever grateful that they did.

28:27And God, Ricky, man, I mean, it's a world of knowledge. God, and so entertaining, Ricky, oh my gosh. Yeah, me and George South, the last show we were on together. It was a gospel and wrestling show and he got to go up there and preach and stuff. And it was so, it was so good. I loved it so much. Oh, that's good. It was so, it was so nice to see him up there in his element and just enjoying life, you know, and just good. Right. It's my heart. It really does, don't it? It really does. Yeah, it's a beautiful thing to see, man. You know, I mean, I know more personally with me, you know, I like to see others do well in the business and you know, you know, how some people are though in the business, you know, they're afraid to look at their own shadow. They'll take their own spot and yeah, and that's sort of thing. But I, you know, I've always thought that there's room for success with everybody, you know,

29:32what if they want it bad enough, you know, so yeah. And I always had really good talks with Ricky too. Every time I get to see him and sit down and talk with him too. All three of them men right there, they're just, they just want my heart. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They're good, all good people too, you know, and so much knowledge and so much great things they could share and, you know, because you know, they were, they were brought into business by some great people as well. So, you know, that's what's all about giving back and, you know, keeping that cycle going, you know. That was definitely man, but, you know, and God, I mean, I know this probably was the way you felt too, but like, you know, you know, these guys that we're talking about here, you know, we, you know, we grew up admiring these, these, these people, right? Yeah. And the fact that wow, here we are, being friends with them and learn, being on the learning tree with a man, it's, it's a, it's like a picture self moment, right?

30:35Yeah, like being on the same show with them is just like insane. Like, it's just mind blowing, you know, it really is. It really is, but oh my gosh, oh man. Is, is there anybody that I, I know you mentioned Jason Kincaid, it's incredible. Is, is there anybody else that comes to mind that you would like to step in a ring with you happen at a chance to yet? Oh man, I really like to do some more like, enter gender matches just in general too. Like, I'm really open to, because there's a lot of like, because I grew up in the wrestling industry and there wasn't a lot of women at the time. So like, there's a lot of like, my friends from years and years that I've just never gotten to wrestle and like, it needs to happen. It needs to happen. Perhaps, that's absolutely. Oh yeah, that's good. Yeah, then like, I love tags too.

31:36I mean, that could still wrestle two different people. It's fine, you know? You're right. And, I mean, and like, tag team wrestling, such a lost heart now, man. God. So it's, I mean, I know, with the big lucha influence right now, it's really coming back a lot. So I think it's, it's really done hit gear again. So, yes. And it's really great to see the lucha Libre style catch. No, no, um, you know, especially, you know, like, God, I would have thought WWE would have fought AAA and now they're doing this thing, right? And I love it that it was such a great opportunity to showcase so many, like, because they're all so talented, like, they need to be seen. Like, people need to know about these people, like, they need to know. Yeah. And some people just don't know about them. And then like, now they're getting this light to where you can see so many more of them. And they're all just so good.

32:37Oh, they're incredible. I remember when I added chance years back to go to Chipotle with Jake Roberts. America leads the world in medicine development. It matters. We get new medicines first, nearly three years faster. Five million Americans go to work because we make medicines here at home. And not relying on other countries keeps us safe. But China is racing to overtake us. Will we let them or will we choose to stay ahead? When America leads, America cures. Let's tell Washington to keep us in the lead. Learn how at americacures.com. Pay for by Farma. This is your fix. I am your host, Stasi Schroeder. Welcome to Tell Me Lies, the official podcast. What's the most unhinged thing of these in three? Steven, because he's so evil. I do think he is misunderstood. You see everyone base consequences. It's intoxicating. The writers just know how to trick you.

33:38There's always a twist in this show. Tell me lies, the official podcast January 6th and stream the new season of Tell Me Lies, January 13th on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus. And one of the first things that I told Jake was, Jake, are we going to have to do a lot of, they're very acrobatic, you know. Yeah, and Jake was like, look at me. Do I think you think I do all that stuff? But it was great. I mean, I, you know, yes, which we got over there. I mean, I learned so much from the luchadors and being there with some of the greats. And what was so cool about it, a lot of people that I worked with, they're followed me into WCW when I got in WCW, right? So it was like a big reunion when we got the WCW you know, luchadors there. They're like, this is so cool, right?

34:39Yeah, it's like, they remember me. Oh, man, it was so cool. Yeah, we used to go to show, stacking on the crack of jacks. It was somewhat fun. And I remember when I had a wrestling school that one of my lucha friends from Exco La Fletcher, right? He was trained by the volanos. Yeah. And he would bring his students over and wanted me to teach him that wrestling because they knew the lucha style, you know, but he wanted to have knowledge of old submissions and all that. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, I would help them out, but I remember watching them warm up and train and it was like, oh, it just blew my mind. How good they were. And acrobatic they were. Yeah, I mean, it was a good learning experience for me too, right? You know, watching the lucha doors in Mexico and as well as in the fact that, you know, I could help some of the students

35:40out was really, really cool. So it was a learning experience for everybody, you know, more or less. It's really awesome. It's crazy. Like, I want to be like them when I grow up. You know what I'm saying? Right. Oh, man. And they're so entertaining. Oh, my gosh. So, I mean, it's never a dull moment too. And so colorful. And I mean, everybody has a character. Everybody has a gimmick. I want to, you know, love it though. I love it. It's, yeah. That's what the way it should be. You know, I mean, I mean, everybody should have their own story after their own thing going on, you know. Yeah. It's definitely, you know, and people, that's what they want. I mean, people want to get involved in the story. You know, I tell, that's the old time. Bring it, bring the audience in your story, man. That's what that they're for, you know. Yeah, they want to chant. They want to boo. They want to scream. They want to do that stuff. They want to be involved. And I mean, honestly, I want you involved

36:41because it just makes everything so much better. It really does. And, you know, and, and, you know, what we do is supposed to be entertaining. It's supposed to be fun to do, you know, and, you know, if you're not having fun, this is like anything in life. Even if I haven't fun doing what you're doing, then something's wrong. It's time to change the tone, you know? Definitely. Like, I love, I love being the face. I love being the heel. I love being, I want you guys to yell at me. Tell me how you really feel. That's what I want. I love it so much. Right, right. And I love like trying to come, come up with like a comeback. Right in the middle of it. Like, I feel like with Indie wrestling, you get a, like real personal experience. Right. Everyone on that side of the ring, someone is going to get an experience because I'm going to say something out of pocket. Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's, I mean, that's what's all about. That's what we live for, you know? Not definitely. The little, the little tiny, the little,

37:43those little moments, like, you know, someone will think about that for days and days afterwards, you know, but it's just, long as you have fun. That's it. And, you know, and there's people that have fun with, you know, bring them, bring them in your world, you know? Definitely. The world is, the world is crazy enough as is. Yeah. We're just trying, we're just trying to enjoy not thinking about that for a few hours. Yeah, like, you know, that's what entertainment is all about in the escape, you know, from reality, you know? I mean, yeah. You know, that's, and that's what makes us, like, larger in life, if you will, through our audience. So, shoot, man. I mean, it's actually supposed to be a good time. I agree. Yeah, that's really, really, really cool. So, is there any, I know you mentioned

38:45that you help out the animals? No, babies. Oh, I'm with you. There's, oh gosh, so much. I love animals so much. You've got me, I hope, trained, trained others in the wrestling industry. There's an immediate plot of the projects that you're involved with right now. They do. Anyone? Any other projects? Project, oh, well, I paint, I paint. So, there's always a project. Oh, okay. Yeah, there's always a project. Like, I've just recently started selling my paintings at like my merch tables and stuff. So, nothing's over $30. I try to make sure everything is affordable and just fun to look at. Oh, that's great. So, you're an artist right on? Yeah, I've painted my doors, I've painted walls, I've painted walls in my mom's house, so it's everywhere. Nice. It's fantastic. Oh, man.

39:49So, what are some of your best paintings thus far that you've created? I love doing snakes. I love doing like mushroom ladies. Like, women figures, but with mushroom kids or like mushrooms growing out of their bodies, stuff like that. I love like nature. Yeah, nature and stuff. I recently drew a possum. I was very proud of my possum. I'm keeping, yeah, I'm not selling him. He's nice. Yeah, I worked real hard on that possum. Oh, man. Yeah, I love doing like space and sometimes every now and then do like spooky stuff. And I love doing skulls and ghost. And I've done ghost ladies. And I just like doing a little bit of kind of whatever I want to draw because I only started painting because I wanted to learn how to draw. So, right, whatever I kind of want to draw, I just kind of, it turns out good. You got to paint it. If not, it's just going to sit there and you got to do something with it.

40:50Right, yeah, exactly. That's so cool. That's cool. I want to check out some of your paintings sometime. Yeah, I should, I need to post more, but like, I'm self-conscious, okay? And it shouldn't be because art is art and it's fun. But I need to, I need to post more online. And like, I think I'm going to work on that next week. Fantastic. Yeah, please let me know if you do. I'd love to check it out. And like, I'm also, I'm working on this really, really big painting from like killer clowns from outer space. It's three different clowns on it. Nice. So, I was like, I don't know if I'm being able to sell it. Because I'm like, I don't know how much you sell something with this much work in. I'm like, I don't know. I think I should just keep it. It's so nice. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I'm like, I definitely still got to post it though. But it's not quite done. It's got like two more sessions on it. Then it'd be done. Oh, man, I'm excited to check it out. Once you got everything together, that's sort of the cool.

41:53I also did another like one of the like little popcorn monsters that come out of the jack-in-box from the killer clowns from outer space. I finished that one. I should go ahead and post that one too. Because that one was super cute. Fantastic. Yeah, I really need to post more art. Art is poster art. I'm so bad about it. But y'all need to do it. At least if I'm not going to do it, y'all need to do it. Right. Oh, man. So bad. Oh, gosh. So do you have any events coming up that you would like to plug? Oh, I'm in North Carolina, both days this week. So that'll be fun. All the information's on my Facebook. And to look me up on Facebook, that is S-I-S. And then S-I-S-A-K-I. Because they don't let you put the great Sasaki on Facebook. You got to have a first name.

42:53So and everyone always called me cis growing up. So I just this Sasaki. All right, that makes sense. That's really cool. Well, so so where could fans keep staying touch with you? Oh, I'm on Facebook and Instagram mostly. I haven't really branched out farther because life is hard. Yeah. Life is life is hard. And life be life and so just those two places. And it's pretty easy to find me. And on YouTube, all you got to do is type in my name. And I pop up there too. Fantastic. That's cool. You know, this has been great. You know, thank you so much for coming on the show. No, I appreciate you. Let me come on and be goofy and let people know who who I am. I'm not just like a little freak with no titties, you know? I mean, I'm more than that. Oh, right. Absolutely, man. You know, you're the best, man. I'm going to get shirts made saying the titless terror.

43:59Okay. So that's the next goal for merch is t-shirts saying the titless terror. So okay. Yeah, yeah, keep that merch going, man. Got you, man. Got you. That's great. That's how I'm able like to be able to go a bunch of like different places and stuff because I try. Like, especially now, like most of the time I tried to stay in like just Virginia, North Carolina was Virginia, but I've been in Tennessee and Maryland and New Jersey. I'm going to Massachusetts in a few months. No, I try to get I'm trying to get down there to Kentucky in Ohio and Pennsylvania and all that good stuff. So I'm finally branching out more, but I'm still trying to keep my my right down. So that's why I sell a lot of merch and a lot of paintings so that I'm able to still go to all these places. Cause I have fans hit me up and they're like, when are you going to be here here? And I'm like, I don't know what on that? Oh, man, that that is so cool.

45:00You know, you have to keep us informed how you're doing for sure. I mean, and I gosh, I wish you all the best. I really do. And you just keep doing what you're doing. I mean, you know, you're amazing. I appreciate you all. And I appreciate you for letting me, you know, come on here. In any time and in anything I could do in the future, anything we can do is the whole the network just, please let us know. We got you. And thank you guys for listening. This has been really an awesome show. God bless you all. I have a great weekend. And we'll see you guys next Thursday. Thank you. It says Siaki. You're welcome. You're welcome. Thank you. Bye. Voice of choice wrestling nation. Per worldwide, obvious.