Two Depositions, One Scandal: How the Clintons Addressed Epstein (3/3/26)

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1:01Through our investigation, we have attained evidence, which we are not releasing at this time, which leads us to believe Joline is not alive. Turn into morbidology each week across all podcast platforms. What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of The Epstein Chronicles. Yesterday, the House Committee, that is overseeing the Jeffrey Epstein investigation, released the deposition videos from Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton. And the Bill Clinton video runs like four and a half hours, five hours, something like that. So I started watching it yesterday, and I finished watching it this morning, and it is exactly what I thought it would be. A whole bunch of unserious people, asking unserious questions.

2:03And now of course that doesn't mean that every question they asked was ridiculous. But I'm talking about the overall tenor of the whole entire event. It just screams political theater, and then of course you add both sides running to try and pitch an narrative to people before anybody even got a chance to look at the deposition or read the transcript. I don't know about you folks, but I want the raw data these days. I don't trust the whole analysis nonsense. And that's why I go through the core documents word for word. Not only do you folks deserve to know the information, you deserve to know where we get it. That way you can go and check the work for yourself. And then of course when it comes to opinions, everybody has one, right? But I know speaking for myself, I prefer that my opinions are informed. And the way to do that is to actually look at the material, right? Not to have somebody tell you how to feel. Not to have somebody to try and play with your emotions and gaslight you into feeling one way or the other.

3:03And I don't think that's necessary here because I think that anybody with any bit of morality inside of their body only has to take a quick gander at what happened here. And they know things are fucked up. So today we're going to talk about the Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton depositions. And to do that, we're going to use an article from the AP. Headline lawmakers finally question the Clintons about Epstein. They also asked about pizza gate and UFOs. This article was authored by Stephen Groves. Now look, I'm not going to knock anybody for wanting information about UFOs. Or for asking questions about those WikiLeaks emails, especially, right? Now, I've told you a million times, I think pizza gate was a sion. However, I don't think that those emails were fake. And I think that the stuff that was being talked about in those emails by a pedestrian company needs further exploration.

4:05And certainly a better explanation. But the whole pizza gate controversy, what they tried to make it, I don't think it was that. And like usual, the people who run around talking about siop this, siop that, they ended up being part of a siop themselves. And the whole entire thing was designed to throw people off the scent of what Epstein was up to. Remember, they were basically concurrent investigations. And you add all these people out here making all of these wild claims about pizza gate instead of sticking to the verifiable information and tracking down what those emails actually meant. Everybody had to come up with stories, right? Had to generate some clicks, had to get a cool forechan post in. So yeah, pizza gate as it was pitched to us, absolutely a siop. Those emails that were sent by a pedestrian company, not a siop. And they pretty much mirror what you see with the Epstein emails.

5:06So if you think that the Epstein people hated you, I have bad news for you. Podesta is part of the Epstein class. Maybe not directly with Epstein, but certainly the same kind of guy as far as the people they move with, as far as the way they feel about you. So look folks, this is a both sides of the aisle thing. And all of these people hold you in contempt. A house committee investigating Jeffrey Epstein labored for six months to question former president Bill Clinton and former secretary of state Hillary Clinton. But once they finally had a chance to sit down with some of the highest ranked officials to ever be opposed by Congress, the sessions veered off track with a leaked photo, talk of the pizza gate conspiracy theory, and questions about disclosing government information on UFOs. Now look, the legacy media. Is making the same mistake they made with Epstein with pizza gate. They're just dismissing it out of hand, and you would think that they'd learn their lesson, but I guess not.

6:10Why don't they want to dive into those emails? Is it because they are really damaging to some of their faves? Because they most certainly are. Those emails were disturbing the things that were being talked about in those emails. I mean, no explanation for it. You want to talk about code words? You want to talk about jerky? Well, boy, those wick of leaks emails. They have it all. And frankly, nobody's ever answered for any of it. Oh, it's a big conspiracy theory. You don't talk about this. Sort of the same shit they did with Epstein. So I just want to make it clear that when I say pizza gate is a siop, I mean the way that it was pitched. The way that it was put before you, that's a siop. Not the fact that those emails exist because they do. But was this the right forum for those questions? You didn't have enough questions based on Jeffrey Epstein and what Jeffrey Epstein was up to? Seems a bit weird. And UFOs, come on.

7:13Videos released Monday by the House Oversight Committee of depositions for both Bill and Hillary Clinton from last week showed how overall the former Democratic president distanced himself from Epstein. Even as he said it was important for anyone with information about Epstein's abuse to come forward. Hillary Clinton repeatedly told the committee she never even recalled meeting Epstein during hours of questioning that at times became heated. Well, that's a lie. She met him for sure, without a doubt, not even a question. But they always use the, I don't recall, right? Well, you can't be perjured if you don't recall. Well, maybe it happened, but I don't remember. That's what that means. It's a way to duck the question. Lawmakers are trying to meet demands for a reckoning over Epstein who killed himself in 2019 in New York while facing charges for sex trafficking and abusing underage girls. Oh, well, he killed himself while the author said so. And considering the AP is just the pinnacle of real news,

8:17I guess we should just believe what he says. No more investigations. Why bother even looking into what happened? The AP told you that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself, so let's just keep him moving. Meanwhile, the AP questions the government on everything else. But not this topic. I wonder why? After the deposition's last week Republicans seemed to be moving on from scrutinizing the Clintons for their decades-old connections to Epstein and his former girlfriend, Glenn Maxwell. Oh, just former girlfriend, huh? Hell of a job the author is doing in this piece. You mean his co-conspirator? You mean the all-around Scuzzbag? You mean the fellow child abuser? You mean the bipedal serpent, right? That's what you mean. His ex-girlfriend. The closed-door deposition showed the Republican lawmakers at times seemed not able to resist the spectacle of questioning a couple who for decades led the Democratic Party. The deposition of Hillary Clinton on Thursday was hardly underway.

9:19When it was put on pause because Republican representative Lauren Bobert had sent a photo of Hillary Clinton at the session to a conservative influencer who posted it online. It violated the committee's protocol for depositions and threatened for a moment to derail the session. Why would you do that? What's the point? And not only that, but descended to Benny Johnson? Has there ever been a bigger tool besides Benny Johnson? I'm done with this if you guys are doing that. Hillary Clinton said you can hold me in contempt from now until the cows come home. The two sides reach an agreement to continue. But as the afternoon wore on, Hillary Clinton started to lose her patience with Republicans repeated questions about whether she had any connections to Epstein. I'm so tired of answering that question. She said at one point, well, stop lying about it then. Look, she's obviously lying right now under oath. The problem is this though. Our country is neutered. There's no repercussions for people like Hillary Clinton, Howard Lutnik, Donald Trump, Bill Clinton.

10:24That's only for us. Make sure you pay those taxes. She also sparred with Republican Representative Nancy Mace when she was asked about her connection to Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik. Hillary Clinton had worked with Lutnik in the aftermath of the September 11th, 2001 attacks, and became visibly perturbed and pounded her palm on the table as she responded to Mace. Not a good look for Hillary, but that's her theatrics. That's what she does. And she's trying to establish dominance with that kind of behavior. But let's be honest, okay? As much as I dislike Hillary Clinton, Lauren Bobert shouldn't have done what she did. It was childish, stupid, and unneeded. Bobert also asked Hillary Clinton whether there were emails in the case files on Epstein that reference Pizza Gate, which posited that Democratic Party insiders, Harvard child sex slaves, and a Washington pizza parlor.

11:24And that's the part that's BS. But that is their cover, right? Well, if you're saying this happened and you're saying that it's at the pizza joint and there's nothing there, then the whole story must be bonk, right? That's how they work. And I can't believe people walk into their trap time and time again. Stop chasing the salacious side quests. Stick with the evidence in front of you. There's plenty of it. I mean, why do you think they amplify the noise? Why do you think they platform the people who spend the most nonsense? Do you think it's to help you know what's going on? Of course not. It helps them muddy the waters. It helps them cause confusion. And for them, it's a very, very potent weapon. And they certainly know how to wield it. How to have fun anytime, anywhere. Step one, go to chumbacaceno.com chumbacaceno.com. Got it. Step two, collect your welcome bonus. Come to Papa, welcome bonus. Step three, play hundreds of casino-style games for free.

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13:26They keep telling you that the Jeffrey Epstein story is finished, that it was investigated, that it was handled. But here's the part that they never explain. Why the charges were so narrow when the conduct was so broad? How does a man with multiple properties, private aircraft, international travel, and a documented pipeline of victims get treated like a lone offender? Why were logistics treated as background noise instead of evidence? Why were facilitators reduced to footnotes instead of defendants? Well, that's where we come in. The Epstein Chronicles exists because those questions were never answered. This podcast breaks down what the public record actually shows, the deals that kept exposure, the decisions that limited scope, and the moments where prosecutors chose restraint, overreach. If you ever wondered why this case feels unfinished, why accountability stopped at the perimeter, or why so many names remain officially invisible, you've come to the right place. Welcome to the Epstein Chronicles. Hillary Clinton responded by saying, I can't believe you're even referencing it, and reminding her that the conspiracy theory resulted in a man bringing a gun to a Washington restaurant.

14:36Well, that was the whole goal, right? Inside people will get people fired up, send some crazy out, and then you can say the whole story is nothing but a conspiracy theory. It's the same shit they did with Epstein, now look again, I'm not saying that pizza gate the way it was pitched to you is real. What I am saying though, is there's a lot of unanswered questions when it comes to the emails from John Podesta, and Hillary's whole click, and the same way I told you back in the day about Epstein, I'm telling you that those emails need further examination. And what's the best way to stop that from happening? Well, have some crazy siop pop off, where some knucklehead goes to the pizza joint, and starts licking off shots. What better way to stop people from talking about it? However, Republicans did find some agreement with Hillary Clinton when it came to providing more disclosure on what information the government has gathered on UFOs. Representative Eric Burlison asked the former secretary of state for her opinion on releasing more information, and she agreed that any releases should not include national security information, but that this is an issue of real importance to so many people.

15:45Why would you waste your time asking about that? Mr. Eric Burlison, over a thousand girls, have been victimized. The whole entire country, the whole entire world has been stolen from. We're all being lorded over by a bunch of degenerates, but sure, let's ask about UFOs. I thought Anna Paulina Luna was going to tell us everything we need to know about little green men. Or wait, as Anna Paulina Luna would say, interdimensional beings. These are not serious people, okay? The people that are making the laws, running around on TV, saying they care about this that the other thing, they are not serious people. On Friday, Bill Clinton faced searching questions both from Republicans and Democrats about photos of the former president that have been released as part of the case files on Epstein. The former Democratic president said he first remembered meeting Epstein when he flew aboard the financiers' private jet in 2002 for the Clinton's humanitarian work, and they parted ways after that.

16:49Whether the subject was a note Clinton wrote for Epstein's 50th birthday or their travel together for the Clinton Foundation, he described the relationship as little more than cordial. Bill Clinton described an arrangement with Epstein where the financier, pedophile, provided his private jet for humanitarian trips in exchange for Clinton discussing politics and economics with him. Oh, I'm sure that's all that was occurring, Mr. President, and furthermore he's lying. In 1994, Jeffrey Epstein went to the White House while Bill Clinton was president, 12 times, documented. Pictures of him meeting Bill Clinton, while on those trips. So how are you going to tell me that Bill Clinton was introduced to Jeffrey Epstein in 2002 by Larry Summers? What? Stop it. They think you're stupid. That's what's really going on, but it's all theater. It is all theater.

17:49And there's never going to be any kind of real movement from this committee. The whole entire idea of this committee was to slow things down, muddy the waters, and run cover for the administration. Larry Summers, who worked as Treasury Secretary and Clinton's administration, held make that connection. Clinton said, but Clinton said they went separate ways after he sensed Epstein was not deeply interested in the humanitarian work. We were friendly, but I didn't know him well enough to say we were friends, he said, oh no, not at all. Share this sweet together on your little trip, though, didn't you? Epstein visited the White House numerous times during Clinton's presidency, and there were photos of them shaking hands. Clinton told lawmakers he did not recall those interactions. Oh, come on. What an absolute lie. In response to a Democratic lawmaker's questions about a photo that showed him in a pool with a woman whose face was redacted, the former president said he did not know the woman and did not engage in sexual activity with her.

18:49Boy, talk about a flashback. I did not engage in sexual activity with that woman. He said the photo was from a trip to Brunei for a charitable work and a number of people in their travel party were swimming. He also said that he was not aware that one young woman who was ostensibly working as a masseuse and gave him an egg massage on one flight was in fact a victim of sexual abuse. Notice they don't talk about how they were the plus one guest of Jeffrey Epstein at the Royal Wedding in Morocco. That's interesting, huh? No, we didn't know Jeffrey Epstein. We're just, you know, his guests. There is nothing that I saw when I was around him that made me realize he was trafficking women he told the committee. He said he had once visited Epstein's townhouse in New York City, but said repeatedly he had never visited Epstein's private island or the other properties. Well, Virginia says differently and so does Steve Scully.

19:49And so do all the people from Zorro Ranch. So believe who you want to believe, but these sources have no reason to lie. Why would they lie about the Clintons? And we're talking about all the way back in 2019, 2020. As by Republicans, whether they had talked about young women or girls together, Clinton responded emphatically no. Clinton acknowledged he maintained a closer relationship with Glenn Maxwell, Epstein's former girlfriend and confidant, but he maintained that was largely because of close mutual connections. He also said she has to be punished for her conviction on sex trafficking charges. Well, you should tell your buddy Trump that. And furthermore, Billy Boy, did you ever have any relations with Glenn Maxwell? That's a good question. One line of questioning stirred up curiosity from lawmakers, and that was what Clinton had to say about President Trump. He made clear he believed it was important for anyone, including presidents, to come forward and testify to their knowledge of Epstein.

20:54Clinton also shared how he and Trump had briefly discussed Epstein at a charity golf tournament more than 20 years ago. He said Trump had never said anything to me to make me think he was involved in anything improper with regard to Epstein, but also remarked that those two men had a falling out over a real estate deal. Well, he's been exonerated by Bill Clinton. And in turn, you hear Donald Trump, right? I always liked Bill Clinton, hell of a guy. Can't believe what they're doing to him. A few weeks ago, you were talking about him being investigated, and now you're singing a different tune. I mean, that shouldn't shock us, but here we are. Republican lawmakers left the deposition, pointing to Clinton's words, and arguing that it showed there's no evidence that Trump ever did anything wrong in his own relationship with Epstein. I mean, is Bill Clinton the arbiter of truth? So should Bill Clinton clear everybody? Let's just have him sit up there in a judge's robe and clear everybody who has ever accused of being around Epstein. What are we even doing right now? Democrats, meanwhile said Clinton's testimony counters what Trump has said more recently about why he and Epstein had a falling out. Trump is told reporters they had a disagreement because Epstein had hired people away from Trump's Mar-a-Lago Club in Florida. Well, that was one of 975,000 different excuses.

22:16So it's a pick your own adventure, right? Like a hearty boy novel. Oh, we had a falling out. No, it was over money. No, it was over a girl. No, it was over this, but fungul to all of you. And honestly, this whole entire thing was nothing more than political theater. And the further we get into the process, and the more depositions we see, the more I believe that, and the more I believe that these lawmakers, all of them don't care about justice, and they certainly don't care about Epstein's survivors. So look, these depositions with the Clintons were exactly what I thought they would be. So as soon as the transcripts, the PDFs become available, we'll get those added to the catalog as well. As far as this one, well, that's going to do it. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box. C-T-N-C's 21 plus sponsored by Chamba Casino.