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Tony is joined with Ed Morrissey of HotAir.com to talk about James Talarico going back on a lot of his beliefs.
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So the Republicans are gathering in Texas for a midterm convention, which I think is a good idea. And James Tallerico is falling apart, which I think is a great idea. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you. Ed Marcy joins us right now from hotair.com where he is the copo to Tudy Coppo. And you've got the piece over there. Tallerico to Fox News, I no longer believe anything I said before, including my votes. This is if I could compare it to anything, this is what's his name with the voice passed away. He was the Aflac duck. Oh, Gilbert God. This is Gilbert Godfried, and Beverly Hills cop. What if I had something in this hand? This hand you forget about, but this hand over, it is not a bad impression. That's pretty good. Actually, yes, holy macro. What James Tallerico is doing, the gymnastics, the turning himself into knots, walk me through what his team has clearly decided to do in the last two months of a campaign.
Well, they're basically repudiating everything that James Tallerico did as a Texas state senator, right? He's the guy who voted to keep pediatrics, sex changes, legal in Texas. He's the guy who voted to protect males entering female sports in Texas. He's the guy who voted to protect abortion in Texas, and then wrote to Joe Biden asking him to convert federal buildings into abortion clinics so that the state law wouldn't apply on federal property, and women could still get abortions in Texas. I mean, this is Tallerico. This is Tallerico is. He's a far left progressive. He was not raising money in his native land yesterday or over the weekend, California. He was in Los Angeles raising money. I've never heard a referent Texas land before. That's joy. It's actually truthfully speaking, full disclosure, it's actually my native land. I was born in Los Angeles, but yes, but politically speaking, that's his home turf is Los Angeles.
It's not Texas, and it shows. So now what they're doing is now that we've come to the Labor Day. Now that he's gone off and spent Labor Day weekend raising money in Los Angeles from the progressives in Los Angeles, he's coming back to Texas and saying, oh, all those progressive positions, yeah, no, no, no, I repudiate all of those. I missed the mark. And so he's been using that expression, right? He's been using this expression of I missed the mark. And he was on with, I forget her name over at five. Taylor, Brook Taylor, Brook Taylor handled herself with a plum. She has made a name for herself because of this interview. This was, this is the audio of it right here, but, but check this out from Talarico. To our next question for you, in 2021, you said God is both masculine and feminine and everything in between. God is non-binary. Do you still stand by that? I was being provocative with that statement. I get that. What I was trying to say is that you can't use human categories
to define God. Now, I was being provocative about that. You can't use human categories to define God. Maybe he's got a point that you can't use human categories to define God. I would leave that to others, but this isn't the first conversation he has had regarding Christianity, where everything he discusses seems to be an attack on Christianity. If you are, and I should ask you this, as a man who has done his studying, the other day it was a conversation of there are multiple ways to get to the truth and get to truth itself. It isn't just through Jesus. Now, I am not a Christian. I'm Jewish, but I know enough to know that faith is predicated on the idea that you believe that Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior, and therefore there is no other way. He is the way to the truth and the light. But here he is saying you can go through a lot. You can go through this. You go through that. Not the Christian doesn't believe this. The Christian
will never use not a Christian, right? You can believe that if you're not a Christian. Look, I mean, Christians will say we don't put limits on God. God can save who God chooses to save, right? So to that extent, yes, but the path to salvation, Jesus Christ said, I am the truth and the way and the life. No one comes to the Father, but through me. Now, again, if you're not Christian, you don't have to believe in that, but that's literally the gospel that Telleriko reported to learn at his Presbyterian seminary. And he seems to have forgotten that particular part of it. This is not a person who is identifying as a Christian. This is a person who's identifying as a politician. And that is a politician's answer. And it's perfectly fine to say, look, as a Christian, I believe that salvation comes through Jesus Christ exclusively. I am not going to pass judgment on other people's religions. If you think that something different, if you believe
in something different, I'm perfectly fine with that. I respect your choice. But this is what my faith is. My faith is, you know, I'm saying this personally too, as well as what a Christian politician should be saying is that my faith teaches us that the only way, the only true path to salvation, the only sure path, I should say, the only sure path to salvation is through Jesus Christ. And I don't question. So yes, what the Christians who have faith and they believe that, I do believe that I would absolutely not respect your choice. If your choice is absolutely moronic, I just can't stop you from making that choice. Right? There are things I'd be like that. You can't be my friend. I'm not. I'm not to celebrate your choice. I'm not going to celebrate your choice. We're all the same. I'm going to get to the fact that you made that choice for yourself. And I'm not going to tell you that I'm not going to punish you for your choice. I'm just I guess one of those things you may be wrong, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we can't work together and other things. Talking to Ed Marcy of hot air.com. But all of this never minds how I
was offended by what he said because it was clearly a really a bastardization of the faith in general regardless of whether or not I believe is inconsequential to what you're saying is just that's so not true. And you're claiming yourself to be the thing. It's like when I hear E-MOM's claim to be a religion of peace while they're going and campaigning for care of the Muslim brotherhood. You can't sell me that kitten. That dog lone hunt. And this brings us to the why. Why is Talleriko doing this? Because if you looked at polling just a week ago, it would tell you that Ken Paxton was behind, whether it's two points, three points, not a major amount of points, but he's behind. Oh my gosh. Talleriko's got all the momentum. He's got joy and he's got vibes Ed Marcy. Joy and vibes, my friend. It's Brett Summer all over again. It is Brett Summer. It's Brett Summer all over again. Bravo. That's what it is. So the ground is clearly telling a different story, correct? I think so. I've been talking with people. I just got off the phone with a friend
of mine who is here in Texas who's also trying to take the temperature here. And nobody's talking about Talleriko because Talleriko isn't exciting anyone. Talleriko is this obscure progressive from Austin who looks nothing like the type of candidate who can campaign statewide. And I will tell you this in Texas, you know, I watch, I spend too much time watching television. Just frankly, I just do, you know, in the evenings, I just want to turn my brain off, watch HGTV or the history channel and just, you know, unplug. Well, those channels carry a lot of local and state programming. And I'm telling you that two years ago, I was getting deluge with Colin Allred ads. I was getting deluge six months ago with Talleriko and Paxton and Kornin ads. I don't think I ever saw a crocodile in my market. I'm seeing nothing. In fact, I just started seeing Paxton ads over the last few days on these channels. So all this money that supposedly Talleriko
has had doesn't appear to be going into the traditional, the traditional places. You know, where Talleriko is really running ads. And this is what I found out today is he's running ads in Houston, which is a Democrat stronghold in the state of Texas. And the reason why they're running him in Houston, reason why they're spending all the money in Houston is because Talleriko is got a real problem with black voters. And there's a lot of black voters in Houston. That's, well, Jasmine Crocodess is from Dallas, but the black vote has a real stronghold in Houston. And he's running those ads because black voters don't really care about him running in Texas. And I'm telling you, where are you spending the money? Jasmine Crocodess said this two or three weeks ago. Where the money is going is how you should assess how this race is going. And if you follow the money with Talleriko, it's not going well. And she said that. And it may be the first time I've ever agreed with Jasmine Crocodess my entire life, but she's correct. Don't look at the polls. Follow the money. The money is in Houston. It's not in places like central Texas. It's not in
places like Dallas, which is a place a little bit more balanced. It's not in places in West Texas or even East Texas. It's in Houston. And the reason why it's in Houston is because he's spending millions of dollars trying to convince black Democrats to come out and vote just to get to the level that Colin already had where he lost by eight points or nine points statewide two years ago. Talking to Ed Morrissey of hotair.com. I started by discussing this convention taking place in Texas, the Republican National Convention, a midterm convention. It is, it's a good idea, right? It's worth trying for sure. I don't know what the end result is going to be. President Trump spoke for an hour and 40 minutes. I mean, the guy is just it's crazy. 80 years old and doing this. Democrats don't have anybody you could talk for an hour and 40 minutes and keep a crowd entertained. And of course, Trump did things like say vote for Republicans. And if we win the house and send it, you'll get $5,000. That's a bribe. I don't care who you are. Don't want to hear it.
All the magic can kiss any part of my backside. They choose. It's a bribe. They might as well pay off my student loan debt. It's awful, ridiculous nonsense. But there are a lot of good did come out of this. And one of the pieces of good that's unbelievable was this. You've got the story over at hotair.com where Senator John Fetterman made a video for President Trump introducing Senator Dave McCormick, the Republican Senator from Pennsylvania, thanking them for working with him to save the steel industry, which of course, Western Pennsylvania. That's where he lives in breeze. I've got people like Torre, the so-called commentator on CNN used to be of MSNBC fame, calling him a traitor to the Democrats, even though he votes with Democrats 90 to 95% of the time. But on America first and on Israel, he differs and all of a sudden he's a traitor. No one should think this guy
is a Republican. But in the world of what we'll call a ballsy moves, I'm not even sure if I can say that on radio. Holy cow, this video is amongst the top three you may have ever witnessed in politics. Yeah, you know, Zell Miller comes to mind. And Zell Miller actually crossed the aisle to Doris-Turkish W. Bush in 2004. And he actually appeared in person at the Republican convention in 2004. But he never switched party affiliations. As far as I recall, he remained a Democrat until he passed away and that was not all that long ago, I think. And so that's the antecedent, perhaps, the parallel. And Fetterman didn't even go that far. Fetterman just praised Trump for his work in keeping this steel industry solvent in Western Pennsylvania and talked about his friendship with Dave McCormick to introduce them to the crowd. And afterwards, he said, I'm not
changing parties. I'm a Democrat. I'm going to I vote Democrat. I'm going to remain a Democrat. But yeah, I'm not going to cross certain lines. And it wasn't just Tare. I mean, Hassan Piker was making fun of his speech on his reaction videos. You had, I think it was one of the vice chairs of the DNC. They got what 185 of them or something like that. One of them was calling them a Benedict Arnold, which tells me that whoever that was, I think his name is Lafayette. If I'm not mistaken, in Miami and somebody named Lafayette, doesn't, didn't spend a lot of time reading American history to find out who Benedict Arnold actually was. It wasn't just that Benedict Arnold introduced a British officer as one of his friends. So I mean, they absurd hyperbolic reaction to Federer Mendoeuk doing this. I think it's telling in a certain way. This is this is becoming a cult and anybody who speaks against it is a heretic and it doesn't matter if you're a 90% member of it.
If you if you praise a Republican for anything, you're going to be excommunicated. And so, yes, it was a it was a very telling moment. And I agree with you, the conventions a good gamble. I don't know if it's going to pay off, but the cost is relatively speaking a side show compared to all the money that's being raised anyway. And it's it's the Republicans attempt to try to turn around a pattern of midterm cycle losses. And you have to do something different. If you want to break a pattern, you have to do something different. And this is actually it was actually a fun thing to watch last night. There was some it was entertaining and it was energizing. I think it will motivate the activists to go out and do more get out the vote type of activities. I think you'll see more of that. You're seeing more of the candidates on a national basis and the resetting the narrative at least they're trying to from this is a referendum on Donald Trump to this is a
referendum on Marxism, Islamism and socialism, which it should be. And then Trump said think of me on the ballot when he said, no way. I'm not on the ballot before he said, you know, it's me on the ballot. Trump has not been great on that messaging. Edmarsie hot air.com. I appreciate you. This is Tony cats today.
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