Tony Katz Today Full Show - 09/11/26

0:00Why, from the heartland and the crossroads of America? It's Tony Katz today. Not forget that moment of immense and horrible evil that took place in this world, bent on the destruction of all that is good. But this morning we also remember how America responded to that wickedness. One day's like 9-11, we learn what a country is truly made of.

1:02We're learning right now what we're made of and we have to be strong and we have to be smart. And Americans are made of a goodness and spirit that can transcend any earthly force. And that's what we're doing better than anyone else has ever been able to do it. Because we are sustained by a supreme strength far more powerful than steel alone. A board flight 93 in the skies over Pennsylvania, a brave flight attendant, boiled water to fight back. A loving father from New Jersey Todd B. Maress, a telephone operator in Illinois to join him in the Lord's Prayer. The kingdom come, I will be done on earth as it is in heaven. There has not been a day since September 11, 2001.

2:03Maybe I should argue it's a couple days later. When I realized what the people in flight 93 had really done, there's not a day that has gone by that I do not recognize that those people saved my life. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you, the 25th anniversary of September 11th. I was a restaurant manager in Washington, DC. I was working at the Hard Rock Cafe, 9th and E, right next door to Ford's Theatre, where Lincoln was assassinated. And across the street, the other way was the FBI building, the J. Edgar Hoover building. And I watched people run out of that building like it was ants out of a hill for their lives. Buildings were evacuated everywhere.

3:05I was doing a training when someone came in and said, you have to see this. Like many people, young guy, not 100% sure how this was supposed to be handled from a corporate standpoint and others. And we sent everybody home. I don't even know if that was the best move. But I didn't know if there were other moves. And my, I lived in DC at the time. My 15 minute commute was three hours. There were jeeps with soldiers on the jeeps armed. There were fighter jets overhead. We had gotten reports of car bombs and things like that. But lots of people were saying lots of things didn't turn out to be true. It was just the fog of the moment. Flight 93 was making its way back to DC. And maybe they were heading for the White House. White House is not an easy target. It's got the OEOB on one side. It sits low. You could hit other things.

4:11Maybe you miss it. Maybe you go for the Capitol down Pennsylvania Avenue. And maybe that plane crashes somewhere in the middle like ninth and E. Because I was equidistant between the White House and the Capitol. There's not a day that has gone by in those 25 years where I don't know that those people saved my life. Todd Beamer and Let's Roll. I know this. I know every bit about this. I don't question it. I question those people who have decided that somehow 9-11 needs to be rewritten. You can't actually say Islamists. You can't say Muslims. We were attacked by Islamists. That's what happened. The people who came after us and those supported those coming after us were Muslim zealots,

5:18hellbent on the destruction of Western civilization and desirous of a caliphate. We can discuss the Somnabin Laden all you want. We can go over the looming tower. We can break it down. And the argument was this wasn't your land. Land that we were invited into. In the end, the philosophy remains the same. And those people who think that we can't have this conversation are people to be dismissed. They're bad people. For all of those who say you're not allowed to say it was Islamists, you're the kind of people who want to keep the population dumb. And the answer is no. We won't have that. Now you've done a pretty good job of keeping the population dumb. You take a look at what they're teaching in schools and they won't teach about the connection to Islam. They won't teach about the connection to Muslims. This is not every Muslim we're talking about. But this is who did this. We never once questioned whether or not it was the Japanese who attacked us at Pearl Harbor. We never once questioned whether it is the Germans who are the Nazis.

6:18But somehow on this subject to can't be said, other people's bigotry is none of my concern. And the people who think that you can't speak honestly about Muslims are afraid of Muslims and I have no fear. We can't afford it. We don't have that time for the fear. We don't have it. Now, Condoleezza Rice spoke at the Pentagon as the president spoke at the Pentagon. And Condoleezza Rice was, I guess one could argue it was a bit conciliatory in the role she played and the mistake she made, the former Secretary of State. I want to say something deeply personal. Those who have an authority on that day did not see the nature of the danger in time to prevent the attack of 9-11.

7:20We did what we knew to do, but by definition it was not enough. I am grateful that there was not a follow-on attack. For that miracle we owe a deep debt of gratitude to our armed forces and to the intelligence community. Their service and their sacrifice in the war on terror kept us safe. But I will always carry deep personal remorse for the pain that you, the families of the fallen still feel and for the trauma that our country endured. And yet as I look back. I don't know if I've ever felt that Condoleezza Rice was responsible, that we should have done more. There's an argument to be made. The same argument that we have discussed regarding October 7th for the Israelis. How could you not know? Certainly one could argue that you're the leadership, you got to go.

8:25George Bush got reelected though. And let me say for the record, I'm not so much a fan of George Bush right now. As George Bush in a conversation yesterday with Condoleezza Rice, he said this. Listen. I want you to talk about a couple of those events. You talked about going to the Islamic Center and trying to make sure that our Muslim American citizens knew that we didn't. Blame them for what had happened. I also made it clear that Islam was a religion of peace, not a religion of war, and that these people subverted their religion. That is a ridiculous answer, Mr. President. And you got to stop it. We're through the looking glass.

9:27The whole religion of peace thing. That is to play into the trope of those who want to defend the indefensible. Because what we know to be true is that it is a political system and not a religion based on their own words. And this idea of religion of peace means that somehow we are cascading an entire group of people. And therefore we are preventing ourselves from engaging honestly about who did this to us and why. Because they desire our destruction, the destruction of Western civilization, the destruction of anything that does not make Islam supreme. The end. You can argue a lot of the philosophy of Osama bin Laden if you choose. You cannot change the core of the Islamists as it is taught to them if they take this political system to heart.

10:35George Bush is wrong. And 25 years later he has not learned any lesson. The lesson is not that you have to hate a group of people. The lesson is not that you have to be hateful of a group of people. The lesson is to recognize that there are people out there who hate you. And it doesn't matter what you do. It's never going to change. Never once, never ever, never once, never ever. It doesn't matter how many times you say religion of peace, it doesn't matter how much outreach you do, it doesn't matter how kind you are. None of it matters. None of it matters. None of it. And George Bush is not playing in reality here.

11:35And to engage in this way is cheap and is low. And is absolutely less than. President Trump said that on days like 9-11 we learn what the country is truly made of. I would argue with the President that no, sir, on days like September 12th we learn what the country is made of. And I will tell you, sir, that I'm not so sure I know. I have got a country that doesn't want to teach September 11th, that wants to elect Zarn Mamdani, that wants to elect communists. I don't know. What kind of country are we like post September 11th? What kind of country are we like as of September 12th?

12:45I don't have the answer. I know the country I want to be. I know the country I'd like to be. I know the country I'm looking to be. I know that there are those people I don't want to be anything like. This clip, this clip from the remembrances at Ground Zero where they're reading the names, Erule and Lapland. Jeffrey. Ron Men are crying. And there's Representative Acacia Cortez laughing with Mayor Mamdani. Genesh. K. Ladkut. James. Pat. Quite literally reading names of the dead, the murdered, not dead, not killed, murdered. And there is Representative Acacia Cortez smiling away next to Smiley McSmiles in Zarn Mamdani.

13:57Laughing. Smiling. James. I don't know. Have we learned what kind of country we are yet? Or have we actually been way too talented? We've been too nice. We're so concerned with sharing our theory that this is a religion of peace, that we have not properly, properly dealt with what we do with those who attack us, who look at their watch while dead soldiers return or laugh when the names of the murdered are read. I have no idea what kind of country we are. I just know the kind of country I want to be. I want us to have.

14:58I want to live in. And this is what I work towards. In my own weird way here. I want the country where people look at Representative Acacia Cortez. I want the country where people look at Alexandria Acacia Cortez and tell her to go to hell. She screams, oh, it's because I'm a woman, it's because I'm a Latina. Screw you. You are laughing while names are being read. Can you be normal for five minutes? You human trash. Also, he's an Islamist, Zarn Mamdani. Acami Islamist low life scumbag. And the people of New York are schmucks for electing both of you. You vicious anti-American zealot freaks. The place in hell for you is not big enough, nor hot enough. Now, I disagreed with you on policy, Representative Acacia Cortez. But I just saw you laughing.

16:00No thanks. People are watching. Maybe control yourself. You see, at your uncle's funeral and you lean over to your brother there and you tell him a joke, but some of your uncle's in you both laugh. See, it's good-hearted because you're remembering the uncle. You laugh at the 9-11 memorial. We think you're glad it happened. And I don't put a pass to Representative Acacia Cortez, not for a second. So no, Mr. President, I do not know the nation that we are, what it showed itself after September 11th. Do you know the nation I want to be? And I sure as hell don't want it to be the nation, where Alexandria Cacacorteza, Zarn Mamdani, or the people who won't teach about September 11th, have any power or any say. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

17:00So you may have heard by now that Jimmy Kimmel was back to line. He does this a lot. I believe Jimmy Kimmel lies. I believe his staff lies, including his executive producer wife. This is what they do. He said what he said about Charlie Kirk and he lied about it. He got suspended for a couple of days. He still gets paid millions. He gets to take summers off. Now there's a story that he might be ending his show over there at ABC in summer of 2027. Maybe we'll maybe won't. I don't know. I'm not watching, but he said this just the other day on the show about his interview with Democrat Senate candidate in Texas James Salarica. Can Paxton there tomorrow night? I'll be interviewing James Salarica tomorrow night under unusual circumstances. You know, for a lot of years, for the whole 20 plus of year of our show. In fact, I've been interviewing Americans who are running for office with no problem at all, just like Letterman did, Leno did, Arsenio, etc, etc.

18:00I've interviewed a lot of political candidates from Hillary Clinton to Ted Cruz to Donald Trump himself. I interviewed Donald Trump when he was running for president in 2015. And at that time when he was the one sitting next to me, he seemed to have no problem with the idea of talk show host interviewing candidates. In fact, he was very eager to come back for another interview, which he did just before he became the nominee in 2016. But for some reason, and I can't seem to figure out what that reason is. Something has changed. Now that he is president, his FCC is threatening me, threatening our show, threatening our network ABC, our affiliates, our local stations based on simple traditional editorial decisions, guest bookings, it would seem they don't like. And so Adam, consider a racer for our local stations, especially our ABC affiliates in Texas who would have to deal with this nonsense. My interview tomorrow with James Tolerico will not err on television. It will be posted on YouTube. It's posted on YouTube because equal time is a thing and he's not going to interview Ken Paxson or others.

19:06He's just lying. I'm not saying he's lying about having had Donald Trump on the show. But you take a look at where these late night hosts are at now and they certainly aren't in the place where they speak to everybody. They only speak to one person, one type of person. He's doing it on YouTube to avoid any equal time issues to spare ABC. It has nothing to do with Trump at all. He made it up. That guy got a television show in the late night. America really is amazing. This is Tony Katz today. The Lindsey Clancy Madness continues. And it took an amazing turn today. We're talking about what could be considered as some world-class racism. Tony Katz. Tony Katz today. Guys, an absolute pleasure to be here. Thanks for being here with us.

20:07Don't forget we are live streaming on YouTube and Rumble. Just look for Tony Katz on Facebook. Tony Katz Radio. And on Twitter, also known as X Tony Katz. Come be a part of it. Don't forget to hit like and subscribe and all the places I'd greatly appreciate it. Over at CBS, they're still talking about the Lindsey Clancy case, the hung jury. And of course, we should be clear that Lindsey Clancy murdered her children. And there are women supporting her saying, well, you don't understand what it's like to be a mom. That's a take. And I would put this just on liberal white women, but that got blown up today as well. And I'll explain. But first, this juror, her name is Paula Devlin. She's on CBS this morning. She's talking about the case.

21:08And they're talking about the lone, hold out juror this man. And Gail King is asking questions. About this juror. I'm going to share it with you. I only hope you're sitting down. Here's how it went down. I'm curious about the jurors themselves because we know it was nine women, three men. What was the age range? What was the racial makeup? I haven't heard any of that. What was it? 70 70 ish to 22. And one person of color and then everybody else was white. A lot of the jurors had children. One person of color was a person of color, a woman or a man. A man. Is a hold out juror a person, a black man?

22:08Yes. A black man is a hold out juror? Yes. Well, I have to sit with that for just a second. Why? Why Gail King? Do you have to sit with that for just a second? What does that mean? What does that mean? Well, I've been very upset with this hold out juror. I've been very upset with this hold out juror. How dare he not side on the side of Lindsey Clancy. He's just so terrible and awful. Oh, he's black. Well, maybe he's not so bad. Gail King, you racist freak. They have all lost their minds. We have to rethink everything because the hold out juror is black. Let's say it differently. Eleven liberal white losers went after a black man who held next to his convictions.

23:12Where are we going to go after them? Isn't that what happened? But no, she's been all about Gail King and all the rest of it, all about understanding these jurors and how brave they were and how they really listened to all the evidence. Oh, the hold out to black man? Bunch of white racists on there trying to get a black man to do their bidding. Again. Oh, sit with that for a minute. That's got to be the greatest line I've ever heard. First of all, you notice how she couldn't keep up with the person of color thing anymore? Everyone agrees. That's a stupid line. It's black. Also, it's not African American. It's black. If you say of somebody there, an African American, but they're not from Africa, but they are black. Isn't that an insult you're trying to put them in a category?

24:12What's wrong with you? It's black. Grow up. But this is unbelievable. This is so amazing. Is a hold out your a person, a black man? Yes. A black man is a hold out your? Yes. Well, I have to sit with that for just a second. It's amazing. It's just, huh? Can I just pour myself some bourbon now? Is that okay? Can we all just start drinking? She has to sit with that for a minute. It changes everything. It changes everything, doesn't it? No, it really doesn't at all. But it has to change everything. Why does it have to change everything?

25:13Because I'm told that if they're black and I'm black, I have to rethink all my thoughts. You don't have to rethink all your thoughts. You could still think him right or wrong depending on how you thought. Thirty seconds before you knew his race. But if his race now makes a determination, whether or not you think he's right or wrong, you're a racist, Gail King. If you change your opinion of this juror, because of his race, you're a racist. Or are you going to go in a different direction with it and say, well, now that I know that the juror is a black man, it's understandable why he would say this. Because black men have a history regarding how they think about women. Just go back to how they treated Kamala Harris. So it's not that the black man was a racist. Not that you are a racist, it's that the black juror is a sexist. And therefore, you are justified.

26:18You all figure that out. I have got no time for you whatsoever. And can I say for the record, this is not the craziest thing that has happened in regards to this trial. Not even the craziest thing that is, we know what this might be, the craziest thing. This might be the flat out craziest thing. Because the other thing that happened involved Oprah, Gail's bestie. Oprah gathered a group of women together. And they're talking about this case. They're all chatting about this case. And how you see the case and how you take things from it. And there is this woman whose name I do not know. She is a black woman. She is surrounded by mostly white women. There is one white guy in the audience, in the crowd there.

27:21And he's looking down and he's clearly saying to himself, how did I get here? What did I do wrong to be here? And this was the conversation that Oprah was leading. And this is what this black woman had to say regarding Lindsey Clancy. And the other thing that I would just be remiss to not say is, I hope this never happens again. We know statistically it really will. It will. I want us to have the same passion for people who don't look like Lindsey. Who don't have her same access. Yeah. Who don't have her same access. An education. Her melanin. Her privilege. There are women of color sitting around this country in prisons for the same thing that we've never heard of.

28:22Oh. Oh. Hold on. I'm grabbing all the bourbon I can. I just. There. Sorry. Yeah. This is the Wal-Turkey Rare breed. Right here. Excuse me, everyone. Oh. Okay. When someone murders their children, we should remember that if they're black, they're not going to support them too. Not worry about the murder, but just be supportive. You see the only reason they're supporting Lindsey Clancy is because she's white. And we need to support black murderers as well. When a black man is on a jury and a decision's made, I don't like black women have to rethink it.

29:27Women who are supportive of a white woman murdering her kids now have to remember to be extra supportive of a black woman murdering their kids. And that's children is pretty much the end of civilization as we know it. I. By the way, if you've never had the Wal-Turkey Rare breed, the the bowel proof fry, it is, it is fantastic. It is 112.2 proof. It's fantastic. You should go out and get this immediately. You are right to ask yourself out loud in your car or anywhere else. What is happening? Has everyone lost their mind? The answer is twofold. First, for the sake of clarity. Yes.

30:29A lot of people have lost their blank in mind. You're not crazy. You're not wrong. It's not you. It is them. They are broken. They are lost. What comes the part two, which is what in the world can I do about it? What is it that you can do about it? We have to start by doing some really hard work. I'm a believer in you can't just say, well, this thing is a problem. There has to be a way to deal with the problem. There has to be. One of the way you deal with the problem is that you change how you interact and the interactions you allow that allow problems like this to fester. Conservative women are different by the just nature of being conservative. Now, we can argue there are differences between women and men and that does not change regarding politics.

31:33But we can be clear that conservative women have a much different take on women than liberal women because no conservative woman is having this conversation about Lindsey Clancy early. She doesn't be. It would be important for us to protect and support the black woman murder or two. How do you now extricate your own children out of situations that might teach them and build upon that insanity? What work are you willing to do to do that on the elementary school level, on the high school level, and on the college level? Where women studies professors, where your kid is, for some reason, taking that and you, parents, with all due respect, are stupidly paying for that. What are you willing to do to say, we're done here. My money doesn't do that anymore. What are you willing to do before that to have a real conversation about how feminism isn't about strength in women?

32:35Here is what strength in women and you are the ones as parents, wife and husband, engage in that conversation. The question before us is not always, look at all these things that are happening to my children. The question before us is, what is it that I can do on a very base level to help fight against all these maddening things happening to my children, at my children, because the women cheering this on are not smart and are not good and are not pious. They are broken. And I do feel bad for them, but I don't really get that much of an opportunity because they also believe they should have power. And that's not going to happen. They aren't good enough. They would be too damaging and too dangerous to a nation. Saying that Lindsey Clancy deserves a fair trial, I agree.

33:37Supporting Lindsey Clancy and saying, I understand because I would kill my own kids, which some women have said that's crazed. That's unserious and that means you can't lead. And you certainly aren't moral ladies. You're not moral. I'm mansplained and I'll do it again. If you think Lindsey Clancy had a point, you're not moral. If you think that this is an important time to remind people, don't forget to support black women when they murder their kids. Well then you're just like Gail King. You're a racist freak. And also I would get a bottle of the Wild Turkey Rare breed rye. Yeah, I mean that's just... yeah. Oh that's good. Whoo, smooth. This is Tony Katz today. In one of the most spectacular moments in the remembrances of September 11th today, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, this took place in New York.

34:38Ground zero, there is a widow from September 11th by Named of Terry Strata, her husband now dead for 25 years. And clearly going off script as they read the names every year, she hit the bone. And my husband Tom Strata, you are missed more with each year that passes. But how can it be 25 years? And still, we have no justice for the role that Saudi Arabia played in your murder. Yes, we finally made it into a court and I proved that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia fomented a rancid culture of anti-American terrorism around the globe. And then since it's agents to support the radical Islamic pie jacquers so they could attack you and all of our loved ones. Oh my.

35:40Also. Absolutely. I'm proud of you. Really proud of you. Senator Todd Young scubs will be with us next. Keep it here. Tony Katz today. Live from the heartland and the crossroads of America. It's Tony Katz today. We will defeat the communists. We will reject and that's what they are. They're not socialists, they're not Democrats, they're communists. We will reject these radical efflunatics. We will demolish the extremists. Fanatics, lunatics and criminals who wanted to destroy our country, they wanted to destroy the country. This something, honestly, there's something wrong with them.

36:42Yes, we understand this, sir. We are fully understanding that there is something wrong with them. Tony Katz. Tony Katz today. Good to be here. Good to be with you. Find everything I do over at Tony Katz.com. T-O-N-Y-K-A-T-Z, Tony Katz.com. The president spoke again this last night, because he did the big speech the first night of this convention. This convention went better than was expected. A thousand percent, it went better than was expected. I mean, there's no other way to describe that. There's no other way to describe the fact that, yeah, it worked. And it worked very, very well.

37:44Senator Todd Young joins me right now. He is the senator from Indiana. Sir, I know you're in transit, but you are there, right? You are there at the convention in... I was, KK. Yeah, a lot of... A lot of excitement coming out of that convention. I know some of the reporting failed to convey the level of enthusiasm that I think our base of felt as they left Dallas, but it was great. It was a great event. Now, it was when it first started, came up, and people first started discussing it. There was trepidation. There was concern. There was concerns about costs and what sponsors were being charged. And then there was a conversation about who's really going to show up. But even NBC was discussing the fact that as a visual, it was a very, very good visual, and it helps Republicans maybe gather where their base is. Are you under the impression your colleagues under the impression that there is a turnout concern going into November?

38:48I think, you know, in all candor, I do think that there are some members of our party, some of whom I'm friends with and talked with regularly, who do wonder whether or not people are going to turn out, especially members of our base, because President Trump is not on the ballot. I think much of those... That concern was mitigated or even eliminated in Dallas. But that's still out there, Tony. But a point I've made is this is to be expected in a midterm election. And our task now is to continue to try and convey some of that energy that many of us had an opportunity to experience in person in Dallas, but also make the case to middle the rotors to more traditional conservatives, to even some fair-minded moderates or independents who don't like the sound of socialism and collectivism,

39:58and may not be 100% happy with Republicans. Wouldn't give us an A plus, maybe gives us a B, or an incomplete, but they know they don't like the sound of socialism. And so I just... I feel like if we can make that case, make it carefully in a disciplined fashion, and put the right money behind it in the right geographies, we are going to over-perform expectations and have a real shot at not only keeping control of the Senate, but a real shot at winning some of these other battleground races may be holding on to the House as well, which would defy all expectations at this time. Talking to Senator Todd Young of Indiana, let me move the subject because you made the announcement, and it's a large one, and what we call crane, which is right here in Indiana,

40:58this is going to be the Navy's first advanced nuclear microreactor. Now, we often refer to these things as SMR, small modular reactors. This has been a conversation regarding data centers, but this is a very, very big move, and certainly people have an eye- arguing, a rational fear of nuclear, as opposed to a rational question of how safe is this, what does this do? Walk me through the deal and where you are in the support or where the opposition is against these SMRs, these small modular reactors. Well, PKU, characteristically, described this with a level of accuracy that sometimes defies lesser radio hosts. That's exactly right. This is a microreactor, which is not quite an SMR. SMRs are a little bigger with more capacity, but this would be the first

41:58shore-based nuclear reactor, according to my briefings, that is used for electric power generation, which is what all of the excitement around the state of India and really throughout the country is directed towards. How are we going to solve our utility challenges? We're going to meet this golden age of AI and innovation without bankrupting people through their utility bills, and so many of us are putting at least a measure of hope and faith and support behind nuclear, because it's clean, because it's efficient, because it can be scaled. So for a lot of other reasons, the purpose of this microreactor is to prove that concept but to do so in a controlled setting at a military base. Of course, crane will be the first, because of our expertise in Indiana with nuclear power

43:00and Purdue University, in particular, has a lot of expertise there. And because the Navy's expertise, obviously, but the vision is to cut off over reliance on extended supply chains for the inputs for more traditional carbon-based power. It takes pipelines to move natural gas. It takes trains and trucks to move coal, but not for nuclear power. And if we can sever those lines of logistics for our military, then that, of course, makes us more powerful and strong in a time of conflict and more powerful for economic security purposes. So this framework, it'll be a national framework with crane being the first test case to deploy one of these microreactors to cut yourself off of the grid beyond that.

44:06And then you'll see more military bases adopting this. But make no mistake, this also lays a predicate for our consumers enjoying the benefit of nuclear power. Who's against it? Well, I'm sure there's still some people against it, Tony. But as I've traveled around the states, really for a number of years now, I hear Republicans, Democrats, Independents, all behind nuclear power. They think it's a great answer. There used to be a lot of concerns about three-mile island, and now most people understand that these newer reactors are safer, more sophisticated, smaller, and scale. And I also think people are grasping for answers to deliver more energy, a lot more of it quickly. This provides an answer for those who are concerned about carbon emissions. This can help solve that as well. It needs to be very little conversation about nuclear waste anymore, which is a positive thing also.

45:08But so, you know, your point about the difference between the SMR and the microreactor is taken. I do put them in the same category. You are right, there's a difference in output. But the real conversation is a conversation of mobility. That the microreactor has this movement factor to it. So when you talk about these power needs, are you talking about power needs on the battlefield? Are you talking about power needs in bases where maybe you couldn't have a base before and being able to have forward sites for launching or over the horizon capabilities? Where do you see its application in that regard? Well, there may be some armchair clauses that have a more extended response to that probing question. I have to tell you, today's battlefield can't be confined just to places over there. When we are fighting in the Middle East, when we are fighting, as someday God forbid,

46:12what we'll have to do in some other geography, in the Pacific. We're also going to have to be fighting from our military bases. Many of the things we're monitoring are being monitored here at home. Many of the resupply missions are missions that are hard to reconstitute over in theaters, so we do them here. You can imagine a clever adversary, and there are going to be a bunch of clever adversaries in the 21st century, trying to sever power lines in other ways to make those bases and those functions work. The nuclear provides an answer. It makes us more resilient. There is a theme here. It certainly rhymes with the resiliency play of the semiconductor work I've done in recent years. We can't be too dependent on any given country, especially adversary countries. It applies to power as well.

47:13We're going to have to find ways to be more resilient and not just allow investors and innovators and big businesses to figure out where they can get a decent bang for the buck, but instead we're going to have to be thinking about national and economic security. For most of us, let's be honest. We're just going to celebrate the fact that our electric rates are going up, and frankly, they're going to go down if we play our cards right. And that Indiana is going to lead the way, but some of us, ideally people who elect a federal office, like the president or members of the US Senate, should be thinking about these resiliency implications as well. And fortunately, President Trump is thinking about that as a mind. So we're talking to Senator Todd Young of Indiana. We've got a military application, but you don't want to be finding yourself in league with Prussian generals when you bring up closets.

48:16And we have the residential application of these things as well, which leads us, of course, into the SMR data center place. So really quick before I let you go, because I know you have a hard out. The data centers have been a huge conversation everywhere. You now have these people, this guy who was with anthropic and chat GPT, making the claim that AI can kill us in 10 years. And to me, a lot of fear mongering is this is Congress as you see it as a Senate use as you see it, preparing to help move forward on the data center. Or are they going the way of the Ed Marquis, the Bernie Sanders, the Elizabeth Warrens not only interested in moratoriums quite literally interested in the stopping of AI altogether? You know, I don't, I almost don't care what the poll numbers say on this. Somebody can fight me poll numbers and say whatever, large percent of them of Americans don't like AI or don't want any data centers in America.

49:19You know, sort of things like that. Well, when it comes right down to it, I give the American people more credit than that. They know AI is here. They know we need AI to fight wars, to be productive citizens, to enjoy, you know, things like cures to cancer. They understand all of that. They just want us to not be ideologues in Washington, DC. And some rules are of course going to be needed. But as it relates to data center deployment, my sort of guiding light here is, and I told this, I told this to the CEO of a major tech company just a number of days ago, your job guys is to make these investments worth it for local community. I cannot blame a Hoosier or Hoosier community says we don't want one of these things in our vicinity. It's ugly. We don't see any value proposition.

50:20So it's their job to solve that problem. They got a lot of money to help solve that problem. They have a lot of real estate across the country. And they have willing policy makers at every level of government. That's why I think about this problem set, but do we need data centers? Of course our nation needs data centers that doesn't mean they have to be located in particular counties in my state or others. Senator Todd Young of Indiana, I appreciate you taking the time. I appreciate the update from the convention safe travels back and we will speak to you soon more to get to keep it right here. I'm Tony cats and this is Tony cats today. Will the Fed raise interest rates is the question? And the answer is yeah. Yeah, I believe I believe that they will. I think it would be insane. Quite literally nutty to think otherwise. Tony cats. Tony cats today. Good to be with you. What do you think?

51:25There ahead of the economic advisors Kevin has it fusion. It still shows a lot of the sectors of the economy in the CPI running hot. So do you anticipate that the Fed now is going to raise interest rates next week? Well, of course, we have very high regard for chairman Worsh and respect the independence of the Fed. And so I'm not going to second guess the move that they may or may not make. But the thing that I can say is that if you look at the stochastic process that drives inflation, then it's not really like a long memory process. Which means that over the last few months, you know, you get a signal that makes you think best about what's going to happen in the months to come. And if you go back three months, then course CPI was at three and a half percent. If you look at the last three months, even with a slightly disappointing member, of course, CPI is two. And absolutely you might see the Fed or reserve raise interest rates. And yes, I agree, a chat room, Trump will blow a gasket if Kevin Worsh chairman of the Fed does this.

52:39But I don't think there's any option here. The inflation numbers are bad. They are bad. And you know what the market did? The market said, up over 500 midday, the NASDAQ was over two, maybe over three. It's unbelievable. I actually texted with Dr. Matt Will, the economist and I'm like, why is the market reacting like this? I'm like, well, markets already got a baked in. They knew that this could come and they knew that this could go this way. That way they've already got to figure it out. No, no, what? The inflation is here and it actually grew. I'm sorry, Kevin asked. And not shrinking. You want a fed rate of 2%. And you have actually got 4.8%. And if you only make a core taking out the food and energy, you get 3.6%.

53:44And you tell me that the inflation is decelerating. I wanted to. It isn't. So get ready for the worst of all the worlds. $100 barrel oil rate increase midterm. And I'm here to tell you, Democrats still cannot capitalize. Nobody wants to discuss this part of the equation when it is the only part of the equation. I concede $100 barrel oil increasing interest rates midterm. That's bad. That is terrible for Republicans. Democrats are already in a situation historically where they clearly should be winning this thing by a country mile. And I'm telling you, there are nowhere close. There are nowhere close. Do you know how screwed up you have to be to screw this up? You have to be Chuck Schumer dopey to screw this up.

55:00The left will not admit that I am correct in my supposition based on numbers. And they will not give me the respect for conceding the other points. But this is exactly how the rational mind should do it. And the more Democrats try and fool themselves, the more foolish they become and the more Americans say, let's look elsewhere. This is Tony Katz today. I'm thrilled to see the remembrances happening all across the country for September 11th. We talk about the madness of how they educate our kids and try and prevent our kids from knowing that it was Islamic terrorists that attacked us on September 11th. And they try and downplay September 11th. Somehow make us think we deserved it when, of course, we did not Tony Katz. Tony Katz today. Good to be with you. But these remembrances are good to see. It's good to see people saying we will not forget. We are going to share the story at the Pentagon. It was a whole bunch of speakers, a former speaker of the former Secretary of State, Conv. Lisa Rice spoke and then it was Pete Hagset, the Secretary of Defense Secretary of War.

56:11To those who were here, to those who lost loved ones and to those who came to pay tribute, we welcome you. And we never forget. At this very hour, a quarter century ago, Islamic terrorists murdered 184 Americans right here at the Pentagon. Their co-conspirators had already crashed two planes into two towers in New York. More conspirators murdered innocent Americans aboard an airplane that crashed in Changsville. But on that flight, flight 93, Americans fought back, saving this very capital. The first American counterattack of the war. All told, Islamist terrorists murdered nearly 3,000 of our fellow Americans that day 25 years ago. It's hard to even imagine. These dastardly and cowardly attacks changed America in ways that even the sound of those planes on this day stirs your soul.

57:16But it changed America not as the cowards had hoped. You see, their attacks inspired millions to step forward instead and say, send me. In the book of Isaiah, Isaiah said, here I am, Lord, send me. And in the days that we stood followed millions of Americans said, here we are, send us. And so we fought for and wars, a generation of sacrifice, a valor, selfless, instead fast, even if imperfect, those conflicts were our retribution. And today on this site, we honor the 184 murdered at the Pentagon Warriors and civilians officers and enlisted moms and dads, brothers and sisters whose faces we saw, whose names were read, a flag for each surrounds this venue.

58:19We honor the survivors. We honor the first responders who ran toward the flames, heroic firefighters, police officers and EMTs pulling out the wounded and the fallen out of the rubble and the toxic smoke. Warriors and civilians alike, they stared death in the eye and they did not blink. September 11, 2001 was one of the darkest days in American history, but evil did not get the last word. It never has and it never will. 25 years later, America is stronger than ever before tall and proud. You see, many of those wearing the cloth of our nation right now, many do not remember 9-11, many were not even born yet. And that leaves it to us on this day and others like it to pass down that memory to our kids, to my kids, to yours, to my grandkids, to yours.

59:22You see, on that day, many Americans were ignorant of the Islamist threat that we faced, but 25 years ago at this very hour, it was no more. Because history was not over, it's never over. The struggle against evil continued and it continues now. It will continue until judgment day. Our only answer here on earth is eternal vigilance. That indeed is the price of freedom. There are still enemies who hate us. Every day enemies plot to curb our power and kill our citizens, including from Islamic terrorists abroad and at home. But we are ever vigilant. Especially this place, especially these people. Over the past six months, we have laid waste to the world's most prolific state sponsor of terrorism. Our warriors have fought in Islamic theocracy that has wished us death for nearly half a century, the cheered on 9-11.

1:00:27A regime that has sponsored terrorists attacks against Americans for decades, killing thousands, including our comrades in Iraq and Afghanistan. But they did not factor in this president. The United States has killed their leaders, destroyed their air force and their navy rests at the bottom of the sea. Their defenses are gone. We're still sending terrorists where they belong to hell and tankers to the bottom of the ocean where they belong. And we are ensuring that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon. The economic pressure, tightens every day, we control the straight, we will finish this fight. But we also know, as the scripture says, the world will always have war and rumors of war. And so the fight goes on. And so we raise up a new generation of strong brave warriors who will say when it matters most, send me.

1:01:35Or as they said on flight 93, Todd Beamer's famous words, let's roll. And I am not somebody who ever forgets flight 93. As I've said many times, I'm alive today in my view because of what those people did on flight 93, Todd Beamer, all of them, the secretary then introducing President Trump to give his remarks. And we will get to that in just a moment, sharing the comments from the Secretary of Defense, Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth. And now the president speaking at the Pentagon, this 25th anniversary of September 11th. Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz today. So President Trump took to the microphone at the Pentagon, the remembrance there for the 25th anniversary of September 11th. To me, I'm Tony Katz, this is Tony Katz today. Fresh off the success of the Republican Convention, midterm convention in Dallas, as we will discuss and have been discussing.

1:02:36The president took to the microphone. Let's hear what he had to say 25 years after September 11th. Secretary Hegseth, Secretary Rice, First Lady of the United States, Chairman Kane, members of the United States military distinguished guests in my fellow Americans. 25 times we have gathered at this hallowed place and at ground zero in New York and a lonely field near Shanksville, Pennsylvania. In 25 years of generation has passed since the terror attacks of September 11th, 2001, yet time is not dimmed the honor of that day when our country came face to face with true evil.

1:03:38At 8.20 a.m. on a cloudless Tuesday morning, a beautiful day it was. American Airlines Flight 77 took off 25 miles from here, bound for Los Angeles. On board were three 11 year old students heading on a cross country field trip, a father and a mother were there to young daughters, bound for international adventure and a flight attendant whose mind was elsewhere. She had just learned that she was expecting her first child and was so excited to tell her mom and dad. Here at the Pentagon and the Navy, Heraman had just gotten off the phone with his 10 year old son. A secretary was celebrating her 46th birthday, so happy she was.

1:04:39A sergeant major was chatting with some colleagues he had hosted for a dinner party over the weekend. At 9.37 a.m. every single one of those people and every person at that sergeant major's party was murdered by terrorists who flew flight 77 straight into this legendary building. It is indeed a legendary building. So many wars have been won from this building. With the events of that morning, 2,977 beautiful souls were ripped from our world and many more died in the weeks and years after horrible grotesque injuries.

1:05:40Today we renew the sacred oath that we first swore in their names a quarter of a century ago we will never, ever forget. That's why we fight today. We don't have a choice. There can only be victory. We fight hard, we fight to win. We will always remember the victims and the families of September 11th, 2001. Very famous date, unfortunately. And it started out as such a beautiful day. We will honor their lives. We will cherish their beautiful memories and we will protect this country and its freedoms for every future generation. We will protect it like never before.

1:06:42For anyone who lived it, no words can do justice to the anguish of that day after the first plane hit the North Tower of the World Trade Center. Patrick Danne left a message to comfort his beautiful wife Mary, letting her know he was safe inside his office on the South Towers 90th floor. Mary was eight months pregnant and playing with their two young daughters when she heard Patrick's voice. She loved him so much. She called back, turned on the TV, the line rang and then it went completely dead, very unusual. She felt Mary fell to her knees as she watched the United Flight 175 explode by the husband's office.

1:07:42She saw it right by the office. You know exactly where the office was right by the office. Seven floors up, shimmy bagels eyes and laid down on the carpet by his dance to escape the smoke. It was horrible. Surrounded by photos of his beautiful five children. He was on the phone with his wife Miriam, praying to God when the television showed her the dreadful image. Things were happening that she couldn't imagine the South Tower was collapsing with her husband and she loved him so much inside. Free people must never have heard their eyes from such hideous cruelty. We cannot forget that moment of immense and horrible evil that took place in this world, bent on the destruction of all that is good.

1:08:58But this morning we also remember how America responded to that wickedness. One day's like 9-11 we learn what a country is truly made of. We're learning right now what we're made of and we have to be strong and we have to be smart. And Americans are made of a goodness and spirit that can transcend any earthly force. And that's what we're doing better than anyone else has ever been able to do it. Because we are sustained by a supreme strength far more powerful than steel alone. A board flight 93 in the skies over Pennsylvania, brave flight attendant, boiled water to fight back. A loving father from New Jersey Todd Beamer-S, a telephone operator in Illinois to join him in the Lord's Prayer.

1:10:00Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. And then he said, his last words, let's roll. Today as we remember the many lives lost on 9-11 we also give thanks for the countless lives saved by the immortal heroes of flight 93. I thrilled to just hear this continually, the importance here, the fighting back here, the recognizing. And I don't, just for the sake of clarity, I don't think anybody actually does this on the other planes. And especially at the time going back to 2001, it's a hijacking in one of my income, they'll get what they want, they'll leave us be. That was the thought process. They had already known what was happening on flight 93, knew that wasn't an option. And I'm a guy, as I said, who worked in DC.

1:11:03And if that plane doesn't hit the White House, doesn't hit the Capitol, it lands on me. I believe this every day. There's not been a day in 25 years that I do not know this to be fat. This is true. I'm alive because of them. I'm alive because of Todd Beamer. I'm alive because of let's roll. I had kids and they had a father because of them, not a day in my life over the last 25 years that I have forgotten that. That is absolutely the case. Remembering September 11th is important and I'm happy to do it here. This is Tony Katz today. Live from the heartland and the crossroads of America. It's Tony Katz today.

1:12:07While the focus may be on September 11th, you can't take the focus away from the fact that we are in a war. The president may not call it that, or the White House may not call it that, it is what it is. It's a war with a round. It's a war that I still state we have to win by ending the regime. And now that we're hearing about the possibility of movement at something called Pickax Mountain conversations about what they might be working on next, there is no stopping this regime until they are stopped. They cannot be trusted. What kind of person believes that the Islamist 25 years post September 11th can be trusted. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. Good to be here. Good to be with you. Steve Yates joins me right now. He is from the Heritage Foundation Heritage.org. His focus is China policy, but his life has been about world policy, geopolitics, including his time in the Dick Cheney vice president. Office and of course he was there in the White House on September 11th. I was just down the road as a restaurant manager over there on 9th and E and we both have our stories.

1:13:12I want to get to that in just a moment. Let's start with the Iranians funding the Houthi rebels in Yemen. They are taking a choke point city called mocha like the coffee M O C H A there on the red sea trying to choke off the red sea and oil exports. Just like they're trying to do with the Hormuz straight and trying to put more pressure on the United States and the globe on oil prices to get the US to stop the economic siege. That seems to be what they're all about. What is the latest here and how does it get countered? Tony, it's an important angle on things just as by way of perspective, the first thing that the Biden administration did after an auguration day in 2021 on foreign policy was to end American arms sales to Saudi Arabia that were in support of an operation against the Houthis. That sort of started a cycle where we were in that deficit in terms of capabilities. It's strained an alliance which has never been perfect but important now in the sense that I think the right approach for the administration to follow is for Saudi Arabia to take the lead in basically mowing the lawn and managing the security affairs on their peninsula pretty much everywhere that isn't named an Emirate because the Emirates are capable of taking the lead.

1:14:34Because the Emirates are capable of doing this on their own. And so really what we're seeing is the tentacles of the Iran, the Iran regime amplifying what terrorists are able to do on the Arabian peninsula at, as you know, a very important key choke point. And as the president has talked about Hormuz becoming strategically less important over time, which is true. This other choke point is still important. And I think that the way forward is maximum support for Saudi Arabia doing whatever is necessary to eliminate the threat of the Houthis in Yemen. And I think there are ways to do that. They're not night, you know, overnight solutions. But I don't think that the right approach is for America to expand its operational footprint too much. We have to grow out of the idea of America being the 9-1-1 for every problem, small, medium or large in the world. And this falls into that category to me.

1:15:35Yeah. And that I think is the really astute observation here in that this is the other side of Saudi Arabia. They deal with the ran off of one coast. And Yemen is at the bottom of Saudi Arabia. They're connected by land, but the water, the Gulf of Aden heading into the Red Sea, that is Yemen. It is for other nations to handle. It's clear and obvious what the Iranians are doing. And that's what I want to get into. Next, this should be for other nations to get involved with. Hey, they're affecting how we are able to power ourselves. So when do those other nations do that? Is it about going to Saudi Arabia and saying, figure this out, leave us alone. We're doing enough for you. You're welcome by the way. Or is this for Saudi Arabia to go to Europe and say, get over here and give some assistance. I'm glad you made that latter point. I think both points are valid. But really, it might be one of those times where the United States says, hey, do you want to go together with us to Europe and say, you guys are the ones whose lives depend on this waterway economically and strategically.

1:16:45What are you going to do to make sure that we, the Saudis, are not going to be sanctioned by your sanctimonious leftists for doing what is necessary for you to economically survive against evil that doesn't share any of the values that our civilizations are built upon. And you somehow want to have us fight this with our hands tied behind our back. So whether it's arm sales or staying out of the way when it comes to sanctions and sanctimonies about this houthi regime, whether it's zero redeeming qualities for what the houthis are and what they're about. And it's scalable in that the Europeans together with the Saudis ought to be able to make whatever the meaningful difference is for freedom of navigation, but also for peace on that peninsula. Talking to you, Steve Yates of the Heritage Foundation has also got the podcast. Is it Yates on States or is it States of Yates? I love that you bring that up, but it's nation states with Yates rolls off the tongue and has a certain sound quality to it.

1:17:45I can claim no credit for it because a good friend made the name and I couldn't approve upon it. So showed my limits of creativity. We actually have an episode that is our latest just saying, hey, let's take 30 minutes and talk about are we at war and just talked about the history of the founders debate when we've officially declared war the way it has largely understood the last time we did that was actually 1942. And what the the president's authority is the what the Congress did in the Vietnam war low points to him in and every president since has largely ignored or challenged the constitutionality of it, but it gets at that fundamental question. So anyone wants to dial in nation states with Yates, we go into just the simple question of are we at war, but we also have an episode of 9-11, which we can we can talk about later too. Yes, like I'm casting and hopefully getting people to feel empowered to engage these conversations themselves. So they don't have to listen to a bald guy on TV or your radio.

1:18:47They don't know that you're bald and when I explain you, you are the Fabio. I'm a foreign policy expert talking to Steven Yates heritage foundation nation states with the eights. I just wanted to make sure I gave it. Thank you. That that it is due, but you brought up something about Europe and you brought up these leftists, which immediately sent me, I didn't even have this on the rundown to discuss with you the conversation about the United Kingdom. And how they decided to engage in these sanctions against Israel for settlements. Now I should say to you that I'm not somebody who has ever been swayed by the settler argument or conversation. I don't believe there are such things as settlements. I believe in when land is one in a war as it was one in 67 it belongs to the winner. It belongs to the Israelis. I do not believe there is any conversation about whose land it is every international list that in the other I believe is a bigoted fraud of a conversation that go on heights belongs to Israel. They wanted just like California belongs to the United States. It is ours end of discussion, but what the UK has done here in saying we're going to sanction these businesses.

1:19:53This is sanction is because these settlers and going after the Israeli government, it's caused the Israeli government to say, okay, we'll expel this ambassador, we'll expel this consulate. Oh, we might not sell you these medicines that we develop over here in Israel, right? The Israelis pointing at themselves there. And furthermore, maybe we'll work with the United States to get you the United Kingdom out of the F-35 strike fighter program. Lord only knows how that's going to affect business and trade, etc. Has the UK never minded I disagree with them? Has the UK made a strategic error in what they have done under this new Andy Barnum government? Yeah, I think the saying goes jump the shark. It took me most of my life to understand what the heck that means. I was scared as a young child about the movie jaws and why would anyone jump a shark. But basically, the leftists and it's been a long slow slide in the United Kingdom. There have been some alleged conservative governments that have contributed to this leftist slide.

1:20:57And of course, there are genuine leftist governments now. And I hope that there's an awakening in the UK like there needs to be and is in some ways in other parts of the world. I say, look, these priorities are completely out of whack. You have the world's formerly most populous nation in China engaged in what is widely recognized as true genocide against a majority Muslim population in their northwest, the Uyghurs. And there are several clothing lines that depend on slave labor genocide products coming out of that manufacturing hub. That is where your sanctions and moral iron ought to be focused, not on settlement goods. And I firmly agree with the idea. I mean, the world is not fair. My grandfather taught me. And it might be that the settlers engage in behavior that I don't want to condone at the same time. If you are a real country in the real world, you have a minuscule proportion of your national interest and your national economic interest tied in with that.

1:22:05And you're exposed in this other area. And if you won't talk about that other area, I can't take seriously your virtue signal on this other one. And that leaves aside, you know, who wins what? In the world of nation states, war is basically how boundaries have been set for millennia and almost all of human history. And when they're over, that's it. You can lament it. But there is no such thing as stolen land as people say there's war there's land that has been claimed by tribes and nations, but largely by militaries. And that's the way boundaries are set. And sometimes they're set by other countries because you're too weak to draw them yourself. But have they hurt themselves? Have they have they created an issue not necessarily with the Israelis in the United States, which is possible. We'll find out. But with other European nations with other allies, have they created an issue that goes beyond just the economic or is this in your view an isolated case? And then there'll be fine relationships with other nations on other subjects. It's not isolated in the sense that I think the error that's being made here with low politics and low priorities, making higher priority problems, they might be making themselves

1:23:15an eligible for the five is intelligence relationship that we have had for decades. They might be making themselves ineligible for sensitive procurement. So as we want countries who have the wherewithal to amp up their military capabilities to do more to defend themselves and to protect their national interests without us having to do it outsourced for free to them. And they are making themselves ineligible for the programs that could help them be leading partners in that kind of an enterprise. So I mean the Australian government faces this challenge, the Canadian government having forbid faces this same problem, maybe even worse. And the UK government basically in the same stew. Does any of this talking to Stephen Yates, the Heritage Foundation, nation states with the eights, that's the podcast just find it on your favorite podcast platform. Do the Iranians look at this? Remember how we started the conversations and get emboldened and say, well, if they're at each other's throats, this is a good time for us to go about this strategy in Yemen, because after all, we need the pressure on the US to end this economic blockade because it is indeed killing us.

1:24:28Yeah, well, there's a political warfare campaign at a foot that is nothing new. We seem to be naive and willfully blind to it if you ask me. And part of it is that America is isolated. Its allies are weakened or lack trust in American reliability. I actually think from the Abraham Accords through to this current conflict. We have some major allies in the broader Middle East that are more vested in the alliance with the United States, more vested in partnership and burden sharing with the United States. But when they look at the UK preening on these kinds of issues, they see that they can have maybe a moment of opportunity to buy time, maybe survive and continue to divide the great Satan from the little Satan. And those that have traditionally allied with the great Satan and the little Satan. In fact, if the people are not getting the reference, Israel has been referred to as the little Satan, and it wouldn't exist.

1:25:34And a lot of the territories we talk about fighting over now are really former British territories. And it's sort of the British Empire is responsible for some of the vestiges of what we deal with. And yet here they are exercising some version of high church that divorces themselves from the realities that they brought to the conversation. The next part of this is as we are watching Iran try and engage in another front and try and create some division try and show some strength. We also hear about them firing a different level of missile, different capability. My argument has been that when backs into a corner and left with no other choice, they're going to unload whatever it is they can and the things they've held back for a moment just like this. What is it that we believe they have in the back for a moment just like this? Well, I think that what they have talked about having and what our intelligence community may have assessed they have is probably an overestimation of what they have doesn't mean we should be flippant or callus about what the risks are.

1:26:40I think they this theocratic regime see this as an existential struggle and while we might toy it with ourselves about is this a regime change effort or not a regime change effort they see this as an existential struggle. And you don't negotiate your way out of existential struggles and so it's only going to be ultimate power forcing an end to this theocratic regime that means either ending them as human beings on this planet or ending that regime as we've known it because the overwhelming pressure has compelled a break in that system and something else comes in that will probably be better but not good necessarily in the near term. But that's sort of the way the imperfect world goes and so I mean I think that's fundamentally the challenge that people have wanted not to face I think the president's maximum economic pressure is the right way to responsibly hold things where they are to episodically use overwhelming power to do what is necessary is also a responsible use it avoids the Iraq 2.0 boogie man.

1:27:55While at the same time you know say say we hear of reports of nuclear programs reviving we can hit those without anyone knowing about it from continental United States and maybe that's what we have to do to mow the lawn over the over the foreseeable future we're not at what people think of as a ground war because that's not what it is but we are going to engage in what are legally. The term determined to be acts of war to stop the launchers to stop the nuclear sites in their place and then hold the blockade and hold the financial measures in place and we may have to do that for the foreseeable future but that's not an overwhelming financial or military burden when you think of Vietnam or Iraq or other kinds of things it's manageable and we should make our allies pay for what we have to do to maintain the global order in a way that no other power can. We will leave it there this September 11 25 years later I appreciate you taking the time steve yates is the name the heritage foundation and of course nation states with the eights find it on your favorite podcast platform more is coming up i'm Tony cats and this is Tony cats today and as for the markets on this day well they seem to be you know overjoyed because inflation is up.

1:29:17None of it made say by midday the dow was up five hundred Tony cats Tony cats and you know the dow was just been a big hot mess over the last days because the war with Iran as we were just talking about with steve yates and and things happening in the straight. And now they see just a little bit of pullback on the oil prices just a little. I mean we're still over a hundred dollars on the Brent crude which comes out of the oceans we're just under a hundred dollars a barrel on the west Texas crude which comes out of the ground and the markets like all fantastic. These people are insane they're insane the Nasdaq midday was up over three hundred. The inflation numbers are not good the fed is discussing rate hikes rate hikes this is this is going down happening in real time.

1:30:18We got to a new high on the 10 year treasury today you better get ready to see that thing pop over five percent. It is 10,000 percent going to happen it's going to happen we already see a housing slowdown wait and you see mortgage rates get well back over seven percent it's just gonna stop. Nothing you want going into a midterms all by the way nothing you want for a country you know what nobody wants this. Nobody wants this and it would all actually work if president Trump would sell the story this is what's going to take. We had to more go it alone than we thought okay but we are capable and we're going to deal with this now so our kids don't have to deal with it later. It's all you would have to do it's tells and done it but I'm I am with steve eight. Aggressive pressure should be put on these other nations you figure out what to do in the red seat. You get your asses over there and make it happen don't you look at us handle your business you ridiculous children and he should call them ridiculous children.

1:31:25Pay attention to election results in Germany the AFD I think that's telling us a story about where some Europeans are with their leftist leadership. This is Tony cats today. So day two of the Republican convention there in Dallas this midterm convention and it was all about JD Vance he is the story because he hit. He did it right and part of what he did right is that he didn't focus just on you know those Democrats are crazy and those communists this all that it's very very true. No what he focused on was here's what the future can be here's the America we should look towards now his vision of America is far more nationalist than I am we don't have we don't share the same thoughts on what makes an American what is America he believes it is land I believe it is an idea.

1:32:27I believe ideas are stronger and that's why it persists that's why it lasts and if we start to change this we create for ourselves a disadvantage that is unnecessary Tony cats Tony cats today an absolute pleasure to be with you. Right do you argue that. JD Vance is a nativist now a nativist if we're going by definitions here you know dictionary dot com definition of a nativist a person who urges the promotion of the interests of inhabitants born in a country over those of immigrants a person who advocates or engages in the preservation or revival of an indigenous culture what makes this interesting is that all the people who. They want to give land acknowledgments do they ever they never get called a nativist right they never get disparaged in in that way I don't put the interests of inhabitants born in a country over those of immigrants if those immigrants are legal immigrants and then become Americans because that's the point.

1:33:37The argument always needs to be that being able to become an American is an amazing concept it is what gives us advantage but what's imperative is that we have a standard. We have a standard to what it is that to mean to become an American we demand people uphold it. You come to the United States you become a citizen and you hate the country and you try and and undo it we have every right I would argue we have every responsibility to throw those people out. Now I ask you does that make me a nativist no does that make JD Vance a nativist no I don't see things the way JD Vance does I don't think it's far and far. I think his foreign policy is in every single way backwards I think he's gotten everything wrong about Israel I think he had it wrong about Ukraine I think that his conversation about what America is is wrong he does connect with a younger generation when he talks about a sense of pride now one can have a sense of pride there's no issue with that I'm proud to be an American you may very well be proud to be an American too.

1:34:54That's different than the idea of nationalism right the idea being in a nationalist movement we have lots of names for lots of things what we have with JD Vance though is a conversation about the very idea of America's soul I mean that really is what he's pushing and I don't mind this conversation I think we should have it out in the open. We should be asking ourselves what is it to be an American what are the standards that we want upheld how do we get this done and I start where I start all things with the with the clear recognition that it does not take being born in the United States to be an American we all we've said this before there are plenty of people who have come from other countries who are more American than people who are born here. If only because Alexandria Cassell Cortez was born here you take a look at Cubans who came to the United States and then you take a look at their grandchildren today and they don't even understand what communism is why are we so mean to Cuba because screw the Castro regime and anybody who's associated with it you think anybody actually has to give a good holy damn about Miguel Diaz Canal the president of the United States.

1:36:22You mean the Commie Pingo who's still ruining the people there now forget him forget him I'm saying that the idea that you have to be born here is not what makes an American it is an idea it is the ideals it is upholding the principles supporting defending and protecting the Constitution of the United States that's what it's all about. Let's get back to JD Vance's speech because JD Vance gave a good one JD Vance did himself well and we should be clear that the Republican convention this midterm which got a lot of people saying I don't know what you know who's going to go it's too expensive it worked. It a thousand percent worked and it's not just me saying it oh no no no no no no no it's the people over NBC saying it. Here as we watch this will think loud the balloons are starting to come down I think there was a lot of skepticism even amongst Republicans about the utility of this but they're in terms of stagecraft I think they pulled this off.

1:37:36It was really well done in terms of the optics these pictures are going to resonate with some voters across the country it's going to be able to be used by Republican candidates in places where they need to get Republican voters out they cost a lot of money as you pointed out they had that money and I think there are probably some Republicans that think there are worse things that they could have spent their money on this week. I mean you don't get higher praise than that and it's true it worked and there'll be conversations about what they charged here when people thought they got out of it there but the visuals worked and JD Vance worked the room very very well like stupid well including this talk about Abdul El Sayed and JD Vance's grandfather. I got to tell you a very personal and important thing to me is a few weeks back one of the most amazing honors I've had as vice president is I got to visit the steel mill where my grandfather worked for 40 years in my hometown of Middletown Ohio.

1:38:42And standing on that floor I thought about my papal that's what I call them and in the 40 years he spent there as a union welder I thought about what he wanted out of this country out of his government he wanted happy healthy families he wanted low taxes he wanted the government that would look out for him and make sure his people had good jobs so long as they were willing to work hard and play ball. And so I got to tell you about the rules simple stuff easy stuff common sense good government stuff and despite everything that's changed since he died the things he wanted are the things that I want and I think the things that every American patriot wants for our country. We want it for ourselves we want it for our families we want it for our children we want it for our fellow Americans. And that is something interesting happened the man the Democrats are running for Senate and the great state of Michigan his name is Abdul El Sayed.

1:39:48He saw me describing what a decent man and my papal was genuinely a decent and good man he saw me talking about my papal and his work and his history and what he loved and what he cared about and you know what old adult did he asked mockingly whether I'd be willing to bring Usha back in time to meet papal. This is what he thinks of my grandfather a man I loved and who loved his family unconditionally Abdul looks at him sees the color of his skin sees his background and decides that he could never have loved my wife. Now the shocking thing shocking thing is that Abdul himself was raised by his own white step grandparents he knows exactly that kind of bond and what it looks like in a family and he chose anyway to say that a man like my grandfather couldn't have loved from the bottom of his heart someone who looks like Usha.

1:40:51Well thanks be to God that my papal was a better man than Abdul El Sayed because I guarantee you he loved my family every bit as much. If you don't understand how well that comes across how well that crushes that I disagree with J.D. Vance that he is not my first choice I have never once said that guy ain't bright that guy ain't capable and that he can't deliver a message he can. He put Abdul El Sayed in the trunk that's brutal because if you didn't catch the nuance in there allow me to help he just called Abdul El Sayed a racist. He utilized the racist argument against him and man that is going to be hard to shake. You have the one chick the Palestinian journalist referring to Hakeem Jeffries by the way you watch how quickly this went off the front pages she called Hakeem Jeffries the congressman from New York the leader of the Democrats in the House of Representatives a black man she called him a monkey.

1:41:56She did that and she said but not in the racist way you know what the reaction was this is wrong and nothing else happened the media hasn't moved on it and you haven't heard anything about it in America she called a black man a monkey and nothing happened. That's today's Democratic Party that's where the press is the press wouldn't go after her you you pick the Republican black or white or Agent or Hispanic who says that there is someone in front of their house asking them questions there are people bust to that person's house to riot in front of their home people are crying in the streets about how much their hurt. But a woman of color says that about a black man and she is Muslim calls herself a Palestinian journalist and you don't hear word one my gosh now Abdul El Sayed saying this about J.D. Vance's grandfather I can't use the term Papa I'm sorry the vice president calm when he calls me to his grandfather I say grandfather but I don't think I called my own grandfather my father's father long been passed away before I was born my grandfather.

1:43:14I'm a grandfather Ruby Rubin I don't remember if I called him grandpa granddad or grandfather I don't I don't know my grandmother I just called the apple. All of my knowingly adult life my teens and adult life I referred I called her apple I did I don't know I'm not good with the with the nickname stuff there's something that really wrong way and it didn't bother her so so that was that. That was a really good speech a really good part of that from J.D. Vance but it wasn't actually his his his best work his best work came when and I swear to you I'm going to describe it to you and I'm saying now if you told me it was a plant I wouldn't be surprised it's just too impossible too impossible to believe that there is a heckler there's a heckler in the room

1:44:16and the heckler is waving a flag from next I think he's also waving a Palestinian flag he's waving a flag and he's he's heckling J.D. Vance and J.D. Vance responds so what what the people at home miss is that we just had a protester interrupting us and waving the Mexican flag well well my friend if you love Mexico so much get your ass over there I'll buy the plate ticket he wins you can call him a race that you can call him a big it doesn't matter he wins that fight he wins he does what kind of person comes to a Republican convention waves a Mexican flag like it matters like we care

1:45:17we're not angry at Mexico but we're not Mexico and we don't want to be Mexico and why would anybody come from Mexico to the United States and want to be Mexico why didn't you just stay in Mexico look I can have the philosophical argument with J.D. Vance and his supporters I can have the material arguments but there is no doubt that at this convention he did well he won not Trump he won now does it play long term to his chances for 2028 I don't know right we there's still plenty of Marco Rubio there's going to be other players everyone's going to get involved not as many people as on the Democrat side but a lot of people are going to get involved but did he hurt himself oh gosh no right message well presented the right bit of tough guy he won the night he won the convention and people are talking about it for sure this is Tony cats today find everything at Tony cats calm I got to admit it's been a week we got labor days it was a shortened week my wife got into a car accident she's fine I mean that was that was me you've had your own week

1:46:32and then here we are 25 years after September 11 my gosh it has been a week I don't think we should just brush it off so quickly I don't oh and then of course we've got all the liberal women out there who are supportive of killing your kids because you know you don't understand I swear it's not something to laugh at I hear you and in addition not only do you have a lot of people not only do you have the women who are supportive of those who kill their kids but it's also really important that we remember those people who are black and might kill their kids I I hope this never happens again we know statistically it really will I want us to have the same passion for people who don't look like Lindsay who don't have her same access yeah yeah who don't have her same access and education her melanin her privilege this happened Oprah got women together and this is what they discussed

1:47:46when a black woman kills her kids like when she claims to kill her kids don't forget to support her too it has been a week next week will be better a race will try find everything at Tony cats calm Monday everyone take care