TJG: RHOC S20 E11!

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3:06leave. You saw Kyle cook last night. I didn't think that would actually transpire just because he didn't go on to 1130. I just want to say I did it for all of us. You really did. I was like, I completely understand if you don't want to go. That is a very late night. When he had posted that he was going on tour, I will be in Scottsdale at the same time and you know when your eyes are bigger than your stomach and you're like, I could do this. I got to go. Last week, I'm like, okay, I'm going to do this. I'm going to DM Kyle and see if he'd be willing to give me tickets to this. I saw him twice Super Bowl weekend. This would be my third time seeing him. I DM him. I'm like, Kyle, no big deal. Just wondering if you have a list. Would love to come. No response. That's okay. No worries. I DM something else the other day about some story and then he responded. I was like, oh my gosh, sorry, I didn't see your original DM. Do you still want to come? It was literally

4:08yesterday morning. I have text. Courtney, you got a DM for Kyle. This could transpire. Yeah. And it's like, it's one of those situations where at that point, it's the day of and you're kind of like, I don't even want to go anymore just because you know it's going to be a super late night. You're going to work the next day. You're visiting family. There's the lot going on. Right. And I talked to my sister. She's like, well, we could go. Maybe it would be fun. I said, okay, we're going to do it. We're going to do it. So I DM him, like, thanks so much. She's like, you're all set. Thanks, Kyle. It's a very early dinner with my family. I'm talking 5.30 PM. And I'm like, yeah, I'll have a glass of wine. It's only six hours until he goes on stage. I get a buzz off of a glass of wine. And then I'm like, oh, we're going to have a time. But then I'm like, oh, no, I have six hours. I'm tired. But here's where the vine intervention comes through because threads had sent for the premiere of traders yesterday, a gift card to go get a coffee, pick me up. So I'm like, I am going to put my hand at every cookie jar that I can today.

5:13You sure did. And I said, I'm finding a Paris baguette. Thanks, Julianne. Because on Dancing with the Stars, Julianne did a whole dance to a branded segment of Paris baguette. If you guys watch that. And so I looked up and like, oh, my God, there's a Paris baguette by where we're having dinner. Talk about this marketing working. Literally. So they have a Dancing with the Stars club, the Mirabal La Tee and the Mirabal Macha. The Mirabal La Tee and Macha come with a mini croissant on top. I saw a Mirabal stirrer. So we like at home when I'm like start shugging the latte. I say to Rachel because it's 830 p.m. I mean, what is this night? Also, my how times have changed because even if this was five years ago, you would have went to dinner, continue to stay out and just show it up bombed. We did think should we just stay out, but we need to go back and change because I'm like, I don't even know what you wear to this. I didn't bring, and I keep laughing

6:17calling like thinking about how close exactly. Going out close. I'm going out top. It's always going to be a going out top court. Which by the way, my going out tops are some form of a black tank top and pants. But I didn't have any like heels. I didn't know what to wear because is this a club we're going to? I honestly don't know because the last time I've gone to Old Town and Scottsdale to really party was for a bachelor at like a decade ago. Like you said, my how times have changed. It's like in 40 year old Virgin where they're outside in the line and it's about to all to be here. Yeah, my tool. Tell me I'm not told to be here. Literally. So we like walk up and he had said he put us on a certain list that we have access to somewhere. One of the bottle girls was like, follow me. I'll take you to the area. Okay. Thank you Kyle cookie. Glad I put my hand in all the cookie jars. He had put on a story. I will be around at like 10, 10, 30 and I'm thinking, Oh, he's doing fan interactions. You guys, he was being mobbed. Oh, I can imagine,

7:20I can imagine. So as we're going through, I'm trying to find the bottle lady, follow her. It is so packed. I lose her. Oh, wow. I lose her in the crowd and Rachel and I are stuck in the middle of this crowd. Like, I'm so sorry. I'm just trying to get across. I felt like I was in legends of the hidden temple. Oh, and your cluster foe. I probably wasn't liking this one bit. 100% like I got to go over. I got to go under. I got to go through. So we finally get to an area, another obstacle course. And I just put my arm up at security and I go, is this where I go? And he's like, get over here. They were so kind there. And so he's a come on through. Oh my god. Thank you. They put you in this area that has one table. And then there's a little area of standing room only next to the elevated stage. And so the opener is still going and they just keep letting more people through. So I asked one of the guys, I see some space over there. Do you mind if we go over? They get over here. We got with my people here. Totally open table. They pour us a drink. We found

8:24this great spot. We're like elevated at the table so we can see what's going on with the DJ booth. Kyle comes out. He looks great. You guys. Now I did see that a style is forming on the eye because he's stressed. He's doing something like 10 cities in 11 days. I'm sure all the travels getting to him. And he's probably exhausted. If he's starting work at 11 30 PM. Completely. I could tell Kyle is a fan of John Summit because one of the things that John Summit says is Miami, how the fuck we doing, baby. So Kyle kept saying that over and over like how we feel, baby, he opens a set to say I'm well aware that probably most of you are here because of a little show called Summer House. I don't take that for granted. And then he's going into it. He's having the best time. At one point they start grabbing some girls from that side standing area that they can go on stage behind him. No. I'm going to share this embarrassing moment with you all. Tell me with all of you listening,

9:24I just want you to know I tried to do this for us. Try. Okay. So we had been there for like a half hour. He's dancing. You know, he also loves to introduce the song that he's going to be playing. So he'll be like, hey, it might be summer, but you're okay to be sad. Q. Summer time sadness. Love it. This is so for me. I would thrive in this. Yes. He's going from Diet Coke, Remix into We Are Young by Fun. The songs are all over the place. We knew that we've seen him. So the stage gets a little bit clear because they're clearing girls out so that they can bring new girls in because we are just a rotating wheel of women here. Okay. And it looks like it's a little quiet of who they're bringing on stage. So I looked at Rachel. I go, I think this is my moment to get up on stage and she's like, you go for it. Courtney, I'm like, I'm doing this for us. She said, don't do it for me. That's okay. So I go up there. There's just like two girls waiting

10:25right there and I tap security and I'm like, hey, it's just one person. And he's like, yeah, no problem. One of the girls on stage mess with the sound system so we can only let a few girls go up at a time. Okay. Great. My moment. Because I'm going to say, hey, Kyle, and then I'm going to leave. Sure. So I'm standing there. I'm waiting and all of a sudden I just see a tidal wave of gorgeous tall, beautiful young women in mini dresses and they take over and I'm like, push to the back and I said, I do know my place here and it's not off stage for me tonight. So you sound that one back. So I hung my head and shame turned around, looked at Rachel and said, I think I'm just going to come back for a minute. And then I said, you know, I think we could leave now. Oh, he never got to talk to him. It was so crowded in this little space. He had a lot of people that I'm not kidding when I say sardines. It was so smashed with people because everybody

11:27just was there to have a good time. Dance. He had a crowd. So he did only stay for about 45 minutes in our table section to pretty crowded. And unfortunately my claustrophobia did get the best me where I was like, I think it's just best if we leave on a high. And it wasn't necessarily a high for me because again, the stage incident did well, not happen for me, but it was a reminder of you know where you belong, Courtney. And it's not on stage with Kyle Cook. No, I think you could have gotten up there. I just feel like it just wasn't the right moment. It took over. But Courtney, I've seen you in the back of a DJ before. So yes, yes, I think in the moment of Scottsdale at Bottle Blonde, it was not a link up. I think it was like, hey, I put you on the list. That's as far as you're going to go. Right, right, right. And know your limitations. Were people talking about Bravo there? There were people that were dressed up. There was some girl that had her ski glasses and a mullet on. There was an entire table of old people. And I

12:28don't know if that was because they were dressed for old people as a bachelor at or they were dressed because of the old people. Oh, yeah. Funny. People were there to have a good time. They were there for Kyle Cook. It was the most crowded bar club on the street. Mm hmm. Would you recommend seeing Kyle Cook? Yes. I think he's a good time. He was in there when I was walking through it, taking photos with people, shooting videos. He was working the crowd. The man is a business man. Oh, he is. He's a smart guy. Mm hmm. And so yeah, it was fun. I had a good time. All the people around me were very nice, very fun wanting to have a good time as well. So thanks, Kyle. Thank you, Kyle. Thank you, Paris Baguette. Right. That really saved you. Mm hmm. Okay, standing in Carmella. Oh, yes. They have broken up in real time. She said it. Are you shocked? I'm not shocked. I'm glad she did because you watched this season, which obviously we'll talk about in a little bit. You watch it and

13:31you're like, why are you guys together? You don't like him. It was telling because he definitely was not at that premiere party. And we noticed that. So it all adds up to me. But who's on her next boyfriend? Bronwyn was spotted two days ago, kissing a new man. And this new man has been revealed to be NYC restaurant tour Justin Severs, who is also potentially still married. I mean, she's still married. Right. That to me sounds so salacious, but Bronwyn's still married too. And she's going to get back with Todd. No, she's not. You want that to come true for your predictions? No, I just think it will happen. I know I could cross it off, but there's just something interesting. But that leads me to the next thing because alongside with Bronwyn, we have our brand new cast of the Celeb traders. This came out just this morning. They've been flying to Scotland all week. Unfortunately,

14:32our Lindsey Hubbard did not make the cast, which was really surprising. I agree with you super shocking, but the Bravo people are Jazelle, which I'm not surprised by. They love her so much over there. We have the one and only Cynthia Bailey. I know she has been Jonesing to get on that show. So that's really exciting. And we mentioned too. How come Cynthia hasn't been on this? Makes so much sense to me. Yes, I agree. Then we have Bronwyn. We have Craigie, who I thought would go on Dancing with the Stars. I said the other day, he'd be a great, he's a storyteller. Yes, we had a whole combo about this. I feel like Craig could be a trader. Going back to Bronwyn, I'm also very excited for her outfits because I think she's going to have really fun outfits. You know she loves a look. And then I just thought, oh, the girls are going to be turning on her now. I'm so curious because they have a really big Bravo posse because they also have a mirror. So we have five Bravo Lebs on this new cast. And you have Casey Wilson,

15:39who has bitch sash who's been a Bravo fan, obviously an actress too. I'll go through the rest of the cast too because if you look at some of these photos, it's really hard to figure out who they are. And I'm like, is traders? Do they purposely take bad cast photos? Maybe. I always see them and I'm like, these are just bad photos. I guess it's supposed to be like a mug shot. It feels like it's being taken with a fisheye lens. Okay. So we have Bianca Del Rio from RuPaul's Drag Race. And oh my god, am I excited for this Bianca gives the best reads. She was, I think it was season six. She won her season. She is very well known and respected within the drag community. We have Bowman Martinez Reed, who is a content creator, which I thought was an interesting poll because I would think he might be on the civilian traders for last season. Remember they brought a bunch of influencers and Anna Kendrick to Scotland to do a pretend traders round on social. No, no. He was one of those creators. He's hilarious. I think he's going to be really fun. As you mentioned, Bronwyn, Casey Wilson, Chloe Kim, Olympic snowboarder,

16:44Chloe Kim is dating Miles Garrett, who is recently traded to the Rams. But now he's hurt. She is gorgeous, silly, funny. I think she's going to be super fun. And then Cody Simpson, do you know who he is? No, he's a singer. He used to date Miley Cyrus. He did Gigi Hadid. Also, he was an Olympic swimmer as well. So Chloe and him might connect. He's from Australia. Okay. Okay. Craig, as you mentioned, Cynthia, as you mentioned, Dominic Monahan, he's from Lord of the Rings actor. Okay. That feels like a big poll. Amira, as you mentioned, Jazelle Ian Sterling, who does the voice of Love Island, USA and UK. He's hilarious. I hope he does narration throughout traders. Okay. You've got Jag from Big Brother in Amazing Race. He won both of those. And he's part of that CBS contingency. You have Jenae Craig. I freaking love Jenae from Love Island,

17:45USA. Okay. We have Joey from the Bachelor and Dancing with the Stars, which makes so much sense because I was like, why wasn't he at the premiere? And why is it he doing the podcast this year? Andy's doing it. Because he's on traders. And also he's hot. Okay. Yep. We have Johnny Sibily. He's an actor. Now this is a wild poll. Kristen Chenoweth? She feels, do you think this is like a little out of her league? Like she's out of its league? Yes. Yes. She's also a big Bravo person too. She is. You have Michelle Fitzgerald. She won Survivor. She's also been on the challenge. She's currently dating Devon from the challenge. She's very good at the social game. Okay. Then you have Q from Survivor. Oh, God, I love him. He is pure chaos. He was on season 50. He was on, I want to say season 48. Don't quote me on that. He is a chaos monster. He loves to create drama. He would be an amazing

18:50trader. Okay. Rachel Robinson. This is a deep poll, Mary, from the challenge. She is from like original road rules. Okay. Rashad Jennings, the NFL star. Then you've got Taylor Hale. She also won big brother. So these CBS players are winners. And then finally Whitney Levitt, thank God, Connor, God eliminated this week. So someone can watch the kids. Don't you think this makes so much sense too? Because she didn't move the family out to LA. Right. They kept that. They, I mean, they have their home in Salt Lake City. I think Salt Lake City is their home base. I think they're at St. George actually. Where's that? So a new top of South. Oh, oh, I think I so that was really interesting because I had heard rumblings that Whitney was going to be on this cast. I was like, that's crazy because what about Connor? She probably said, could you get out first episode? Can you do some magic trick to get eliminated? I'm excited to see Whitney. I think she would be a great

19:57trader. I think Craig is going to be super fun to watch. This looks like a fantastic cast. I'm just sad about our hub house. I would have loved to see Lindsey and Craig there at the same time because they don't get along. Could you imagine she would just turn them all against them immediately and be like, just vote about I promise you it's easier. I think Joey is going to be our pilot Pete Art Dylan Efron. I think Cynthia is really going to take her Dolores role where she's really going to focus on one person Dolores always vote in Tom Sande ball out. Like Cynthia is always going to be voting Craig out. Do you think a Bravo person will be a trader? Who are our traders last season? It was Lisa Rina, Candice and Rob immediately, right? Donna Kelsey was the secret trader. I think it's smart not to unless you're going to pick Craig or Amira, someone who's not a housewife. What do you think? I think they have to do someone in the Bravo verse and maybe that's Kristen

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26:20Courtney, please plead your case. Your honor. This week I'm judging Aaron from Rooney, who I fear has officially entered her villain era. Aaron, why are we still coming for jessil? She's a social climber. She's a cloud chaser. Apparently she was rude to your dermatologist until she found out who his clientele was. You're even sneaking in little digs into a speech at size celebration. Listen, jessil may be a social climber, but at least she's honest about wanting to climb. And as she's reminded us, she's had friends since she was two. Where are they? Because all I see is you fighting with the ones Bravo gave you. Then the water damage at your house. Genuinely awful and devastating, but comparing it to Hurricane Katrina, Aaron, we can acknowledge your personal disaster without invoking a national one. And yes, Haley broke her nose on a double D boob. Incredible. We didn't need to turn it into a joke about her date doing it when you know it was not her date that did that. Was this another Aaron prank? Aaron, as Mary once said, I fear you

27:23enrolled at Lindsey Hubbard University, but somehow never graduated because when you're in a hole, stop digging. Enjoy your villain era case closed. Well done, well done. Thank you. All right, Mary, you're up. It's time for you to plead your case. I am judging myself the most this week. Courtney asked me how old I thought Haley from Roni was and I immediately said 54. And I should have never spoken that quickly. Clearly, I knew she dated John Gosling and I knew she was young when that happened. Upon further research, Haley met John through her dad, who is a plastic surgeon, who performed cake, Austin, tummy tuck. And that was in 2009. But honestly, time is confusing because of COVID, the 2000s, you like they were like two years ago. And Haley cheekily wrote back something

28:24about AARP. And obviously that was hilarious. And I love her. And I do not want to shame women, people's ages. I am a seven year old trapped in this body. I walk with my hands behind my back as slow as possible, waiting for it to turn five o'clock every night so I can have a buttery shard in me. For God's sakes this week, I said I hated red velvet cake because of the cream cheese frosting. And I said I like carrot cake the most only to find out this week. Carrot cake has cream cheese frosting. So clearly, I don't get things right half the time. And I want to lift women up. I love you, Haley. I actually think you are a perfect addition to Roni. And honestly, I deserve it. I'm guilty and I'm judging myself the most this week. Congratulations, Mary. That was fantastic. When you know you're wrong, you got to admit that you're

29:26wrong. And I appreciate that. Shall we get into this O.C episode? Because truthfully, every week, I want to just pick someone from Orange County to judge. But because I've already done the entire cast fan production and season, I can't anymore. The right way. But I watched this show. It's gone to this show is so effing bad to now. I'm like, I can't wait to see how bad it's going to be. You're watching it unfold. Where are we going in this direction to be honest. When Tamarine and Vicki came together at the end, I really loved that scene. And they had actually teased that before. And so I'd seen it before the entire episode. Oh, you did. I actually hate when they do that. And I can't look away. I do it to myself. Of course. But I loved that scene at the end. And I feel like we're really getting the real story on Vicki now. And I wonder if she

30:30regrets coming back on the show. I think she does. I am completely in agreement with you on that scene. I was wondering if this was production interference where they said, Tamara, you need to go have a real conversation with Vicki. Something is going on because this was a completely different Tamara. I felt like this is who Tamara is off camera with her friendships and the way that she acts, the empathy that she had and the sympathy that she showed towards Vicki. She's not going to use this against Vicki. This was like, Vicki, you are crashing out. And I want to get to the bottom of this because I can tell this is not fun for you anymore. You are not having a good time. This should be your comeback, your Vicki fricking gumball scene. Wait. And this kind of takes us back to the top of the episode because we're still in Palm Springs. And she's like, Michael is so mad. And I'm like, why is he so mad though? He is pissed about this. And I'm like, so he's mad because Vicki is upset. They needed to go more into that. And it really

31:36did feel like it was like the parent got home and everyone is in trouble for staying up to late at the sleepover. And then there was a part of me that also thought that Emily and Jen were like, I just want to go home. I'd rather sleep in my own bed. They didn't get a freaking Uber production drove them home. It was so obvious. But I'm like, what really happened there for them to actually leave in for a production to say you are you are allowed to leave? I think Vicki texted Michael. I was like, the girls are picking on me. And I wish you were here. And he's like, okay, I'll come home from gambling. We asked last week, what time was it? It was so dark. When she goes back in that room, she's like, it's 11 p.m. Let's eat dinner. It is late in the night. And I think he was coming home to be like, is everything okay? And then I think Vicki was like, shit, I shouldn't have said anything because he's obviously going to defend me. That's my partner. Was he that pissed? I don't know. I feel like they should have given us a little bit more of what happened. They also teased that scene of her going out to production and saying she wants them to

32:41leave. And we never saw that. And then she she was shocked that Jen and Emily wanted to leave. And then was kind of saying, no, I don't want you guys to leave. I want the camera as to leaves. Last week, I do feel like they were picking on her. And I know this is obviously still the same night. But she couldn't move past it. And it just kept eating at her while she was sitting there that was like, instead of being like, okay, sorry, like let's move on. It was too late by the time she did that. She let them pack for way too long, which why are they packing so much shit for one night? Jen's like, first off, this is why I'm like, Jen, open the schools. How do we get an Uber from Palm Springs to Orange County? I don't know. Call it on the Uber app. Get an XL. What do you mean, how do you do that? She probably doesn't even have the Uber app because Ryan does it all the time. Yeah. That's a life to live. Honestly, I would love to live a life of naivety. I would love for Uber. It's just show up and I get in it. I'm usually the one that's already

33:44before Michael. Okay. I'm like on his ass. I'm like, I'm calling the Uber. You better be ready. I don't know what you're doing. You think I'm late? That's time management for him. I know that. It's awful. It's awful. He is always late. Orange is just being fashionable. Definitely not. If you call cargo shorts and a vineyard vines button up fashionable, then yes. You never have to bring a purse out because he has so much space for your blog. It's a great. Vicky had just taken a turn here and even Shannon, I think Shannon is like honestly, you guys, if you want to go, it's not going to get better. I will eat your pizza portion. I will eat all the salad. I will take one for the team. Honestly, get out of here because I can't do this all night. I'm going to hear about this all night. I will take it. I stayed with them. You brought that fact up last week at a Shannon had stayed with them when she got that DUY. She clearly knows the two of them much more than Jen and Emily. We've crossed the line. We're

34:46not going to get back. Do you think they should have stayed? Yes. Absolutely. You do. I think it's crazy. They left. I really think they could have actually opened a bottle of wine and got drunk and laughed and kind of squashed the beef. But I think them leaving made it actually worse. I also think Vicky is like the girls are not falling in line at my own house. And this is my show. There's a lot of behind the scenes happening. And I think they should break the fourth wall more in this. And for Emily and Gina to be talking to production, she doesn't even want us here. I'm overfilm mean that would have been more fascinating than what happened because this could have been a really big moment. I think it is a really big moment. They left her house in the middle of the night. Even for production to drive them home, that's a big deal. I think they were sweeping under the rug. I think they were trying to downplay the situation a bit.

35:48Can you imagine if you went on a trip to someone's house and you had to leave at 11 o'clock at night and go home? That's crazy. So I love my own bed. Right. You're not leaving with bad vibes. But you're not going to leave at 11 o'clock at night to go sleep in your own bed. It only could have been saved if Mike wasn't there because him being there regardless of what his intention was if he's really pissed or whatever. It's like he's in the other room behind closed doors. How do you have fun? If you think some guy is pissed at you. You can't do that. The night was done once he returned because it just it couldn't be salvaged at that point. They were like we have to be quiet. We have to follow the line with whatever Vicki says. We can't unwind and have fun because I think we pushed it too hard and she snapped and she didn't as you said Emily and Gina said she couldn't ping-ponged back with them. Right. But it also makes me feel like too that like it makes the show kind of feel

36:49fake in that it was getting towards the end of the night and production was going to leave anyways. So they were like why are we going to spend the night to do one morning scene? I don't know. There was something that made it not feel like reality. Oh. They should have gone to a hotel. The two of them should have gone out for the night and they should have made a whole thing of it and then showed up to Vicki's the next morning. I've been like okay you about key shingredience that cost me $250. So I might as well be here to put some spinach in my eggs. Oh my gosh when Vicki was like I should then mow them each 250. When Vicki also said I took two days off of work. I'm like Vicki this is also a job you are working and by the way I don't think you took two days off because Shannon was being your assistant and the drive back in night truck. Okay I also have to apologize too because last week I was convinced those were production trucks and now obviously through this episode I think it's been apparent. It's Mike's truck and Carmella really does own that truck.

37:52Right right also on Vicki said I had to call in sick to work in Tamerco's who did you call into yourself? So good. She has zero patience for stupid. She does she does. And Shannon's just caught in the middle because she's like we should be fighting with Tamernaut each other. Right right and I really do think that they're like Vicki's cuckoo now. It is not a fun scene. She's breaking down she can't play the housewives game. Thank God she got the knee surgery when they were flashing that scene when she was talking to Tamer about all the nips and tucks that she had done over the years and I said you can't sign up for knee surgery Vicki. What's important? I know like I've been saying all season the game has changed. She has not evolved with it. It's so different and at the end of the day I think she does just want like peace in her life. I don't think she is the whoop it up girl anymore and that's okay. You don't have to be. I think there was a time in a place. You said you

38:56started the show at 43 and it's been 20 years. So you're not in that same place anymore and you don't have to be you've evolved and you're happy and I can understand why you don't want to put your relationship on the show because we saw Brooks and we saw Steve Lodge and we know how that ended up and Dawn. Right and that took up a decade of your life. That is sincerely sad because at the end of the day she has issues with abandonment. She was never left alone as a little girl and she wants to have her love tink full. She let the celebrity get to her head. That's why she left Dawn. She was conned by Brooks. It's a very sad situation. He really is a dirty John. Then she meets Steve Lodge and he was not a good guy either and we don't know that much about Mike but I hope he is a good guy and I can understand why she wants to protect this relationship because she wants to die with him. She wants him to be the end game. I don't know if they will

39:59ever get married. They will have a prenup. I don't know what's going to happen with him but at the end of the day she's like this is my guy. He's a really good guy and I don't want to ruin that and then it was really sad to hear Tamer talk about too. She puts up with a lot of stuff and it all goes back to slayed smiley and her changing her face and her appearance and the insecurities and I really I felt bad for Vicki in this moment. I truly did. It's like a typical case study. If her and Dawn never left Chicago, I think that they would still be happily married. I think Vicki is a big fish and a small pond moved to California and became the opposite. She's now in this huge pond. She feels competition with looking her best with keeping up with aesthetics, doing every cosmetic procedure under the sun. She thought that she was going to have the better life grasses greener. It's not and then I think when this 20th anniversary came up when App Bravo Con Andy

40:59asked her to take that orange. Part of her is always wanted to come back because oh my god I started this and you have this ego and then part of her has lived this normalcy now. She has a routine. She still has coto insurance. Coto insurance is her biggest relationship in her life. The reason she can't quit that job is because she needs that job to feel satisfied. That's where she gets her security from. She will die working at Coto like her dad did. She will never retire because she doesn't know who she is if she isn't the top dog with Coto insurance. Who has Coto insurance? I would like one person to come forward that has signed up for Coto insurance. Not you Lisa Barlow. And is it just life insurance? Does she do house insurance, flood insurance, rental insurance, health insurance, all types of insurance because she got mad at Shannon for not getting her house insurance through her right or renters. Yeah, but I just like what type of insurance is she? She's got every insurance. Let's take a break and come right back.

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45:15Shop Whole Foods Market in store her online. Thank you. Where would you like to go? Should we talk Travis and Gina, you guys I could not be more bored by this storyline. I know. I was happy to hear that they could potentially maybe buy a $3 billion house, but they're not going to because the kids are going to be gone soon. How old are their kids? Isn't the oldest one like 13? Yeah, but that's only like five more years. They still have plenty of years. They probably have about a decade left. Does it feel like a short about a time? I think it goes by fast. Tell us in a decade. I think it goes by fast. I do. I do. Yeah, I just, you know, it's funny when they talk about their wedding because when I see them, I'm like, don't spend the money on the wedding. Go alope, take your kids if you want to. Do something tiny and small. I think they're in the spot where they're like, we are so in love.

46:16I finally found my soulmate the right person. I want to celebrate that and I don't think they will actually get married anytime soon. I mean, before Jen and Ryan, which is so funny. Everyone makes the same comment. Travis and Gina are going to get married before Jen and Ryan. I'm like, what is that? Why does everyone say that? Because I don't think Jen and Ryan are going to get married ever. Ryan, I think he likes to be a provider, but I don't think that he wants to take it all on in a legal way. I'm happy to provide a house for you and your family and I want to spend my money on you and take care of you, but not like in the legal sense. Does that make sense? Like a Gretchen and Slade. Yes, but we never need to talk about Gretchen and Slade again. I can't believe that they were brought up in this episode. Let's talk about someone that has money. And that is Heather. How? Yeah. How? Yeah. They are completely like, should we buy a $3 million house? Heather's like, your $3 million house is what I'm going to spend on a renovation.

47:18I know. So she buys the apartment below her. So she has both the penthouses. She bought her $14 million. The whole apartments together are going to be $11,000 square feet. She's going to elevate her. A vestibule. It's so crazy how rich they are to think they have the third largest sale in Orange County history ever when they sold that home for $55 million. I don't realize how rich they are. And didn't they sell that Beverly Hills one at a loss because all the damage that had happened, but that's just like a drop in the hat for them. I was wondering, are they going to put a staircase in the unit to go from bottom to top? If there was a show, I was going to watch about somebody flipping a house or doing a whole renovation. I would love to watch Heather to bro. I agree with that. Her new confessional with the brown dress with her bob is so unbelievably stunning. It got the girls are trying to come for Heather this season. She

48:20just stays winning. A bob confessional. I can't get behind is newscaster Tammy Sue. We I kind of like it. I liked it. And I like her pink. I thought it was a fun different look. I enjoyed it. She's trying something different. I thought we were going to get so much more of her mom's storyline this season. I feel like it's just been sprinkled in. We're 11 episodes in. We can only have what four or five left. I can only hope. They need to kind of wrap this thing up. I wonder if it's going to be a three-part reunion. That would not be necessary. Even like Carmella and Danny's date was interesting. What is the timeline? She's so mad at him for cheating and I'm confused. So you've been together a decade. Why do I think you cheated four years ago? Because she told us there was a four years ago. But you're right. They've been together for a decade. She's like you've been married a couple of times. She also talks about this real estate agent that he's going to go meet up with who he's gone on dates with him. Like when did he go on the dates with them? Are they

49:24friends a decade later? How many times have we broken up? How much space has been in between? You came on this show to break up with him at this point because there's no way that you're hanging your partner out to dry as much as she is here without having the end goal of being done. Because it's like either leave him or leave us out of this. Yeah. And we know they are actually broken up. What do you think is going to happen between Carmella and Vicki? Vicki will just go and she's going to lose it. But I just have to say too, by the way, Carmella walked into the restaurant with a monster drink in hand. She is never not without a monster energy drink. And you know how Zach Wickham had his monster fridge? Someone checked Carmella's house. She might have stolen it because all she has in her house is a fridge. No rugs, no pictures. She was also saying that her rancher Santa Fe house or that Vicki was actually talking about the corona del mar 1. And she can say she actually lives in the rancher Santa Fe 1 because she does actually rent that one.

50:25I actually heard on the podcast too that Shannon ended up staying at one of Carmella's houses for a month and how generous Carmella is. I'm not sure which property it was. But I did believe her story a little bit more. She sold her house really quickly. Had to get out. Got a lease for six months. And I think she just like keeps extending it because life happens fast. The cutting board, that's odd. You're telling me you don't cook any meals at home. That feels weird. I use my cutting board every single day. But I can understand like the photos and things looking a little bit blank because it's a rental. But I thought she was trying to flip it. That Vicki was really actually talking about the corona del mar house. But she's like, well, she said rancher Santa Fe. So that she could say, no, I do like a rancher Santa Fe 1, which I believe as well. I think that's the main house. Right. Right. I have a lot of questions about Carmella, even though I'd like her a lot. She is such a 2000 millennial girl and stuck in it.

51:30And I appreciate watching it. I agree. What do you think is going to happen with Carmella and Vicki? I think Carmel is going to end up on top. I don't think that's that hard right now. At this point, this isn't even fun to watch Vicki break down anymore. This is a crisis. Strong. Well, I can't do Betty. Debbie Downer, backhanded Betty. It's called her EOR, Zola of Throck, whatever it is. Vicki is losing here. And I wonder if she's like watching this back just being like, what is going on? And I wish she could talk more because and I'm going to make some quick statements here. Emily and Shane, I don't give a f about you guys. I don't care about this relationship anymore. I don't know what happens in that household all day because it sounds like Shane does everything. I don't want to hear about Luke anymore. Okay. Going back to Vicki then. I wish Vicki would say because I think that there was something going around then like 2024. She had gotten sepsis. Yeah. Something happened. I wish she could speak more

52:36to that because if she was talking about it with Tamra, we're starting to get a little bit more of a glimpse of why she is how she is right now. And that was such an honest conversation with Tamra. They're like, that had to happen 10 episodes ago. I know. It did. You're right. That should have happened episode one because we're watching the downfall of this woman who is ruining her legacy and it's sad. It's so sad. She is not going to be back on our screens for a really long time. And that's okay. But who is going to make that decision? Bravo. Vicki or a mutual decision. I mean definitely mutual. Definitely Vicki will post about it. We won't see it because again, we're still locked. But she will be saying it was fun to come back. I think I just love living my normal life with Mike. We spent so much time in Port of Aarta. I got to go to Andalace. I honestly think she is going to feel like that. I think she tried to come back and it didn't work

53:43and she doesn't want to be there and it's okay to step away. She hasn't been on watch what happens live. Her mella was on. She just had knee surgery. Oh yeah. So she's not going to watch what happens live anytime. Watch what happens live when they did the Rehuget premiere. Right. She needs smaller appearances and smaller doses where she doesn't have to commit as much of her time. Then she goes on Ultimate Girl's Shipping. You go, this is two weeks, babe. Call it sick. Write your email to yourself. Hey, Vicki. I'm going to be out for the next two weeks. Thanks, Vicki. I think we can leave it at that. I hope everyone has a wonderful weekend. Courtney, thank you for your service last night. It's been Kyle Cookie at 11.30 at night. I appreciate it. And we will be back Monday, everybody. Bye. Bye.

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