The SDNY And Their Pathetic Behavior When It Comes To Jeffrey Epstein

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1:008. In 2016, prosecutors in the Manhattan office decided that they weren't going to pursue charges against Jeffrey Epstein and Gilein Maxwell. Why in the hell would they not pursue charges? Can't tell me there wasn't enough evidence, we had mountains of it. So what was the motivation for this office, for these prosecutors to not chase Jeffrey Epstein and Gilein Maxwell? Could it have anything to do with who was in charge of the just us department at the time, Miss Loretta Lynch? Was she trying to protect Bill Clinton? Quite possible. We know that they were tight. We know that Loretta Lynch and Hillary were tight. And we know that Bill Clinton had big-time ties to Jeffrey Epstein.

2:00Were the prosecutors in on this? Was Preet, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. In on this, he was the man down there at the time. What did he know? When did he know it? And why did they not pursue Jeffrey Epstein and Gilein Maxwell in 2016? Well, let's jump into this daily news article and see what they think. Headline, Manhattan federal prosecutors declined to pursue Jeffrey Epstein and Gilein Maxwell case in 2016. This article was authored by Stephen Rex Brown. So, again, my question is, why did they not pursue them? You know, there's a lot of people that, you know, have questions like this. Why in the world with all of the evidence that they had compiled even up to that point? Were these two not pursued? Who was protecting them and why?

3:01In July 2019, then Manhattan, US Attorney Jeffrey Burman proclaimed before a bunch of cameras that the feds were proud to stand up for Jeffrey Epstein survivors. Yeah, okay, Mr. Burman. Nothing happened while you were in office, really, dude. You didn't do shit. You didn't help the investigation one bit. You were just another bumbling fool. So, please, spare us with your platitudes. My office will not rest until perpetrators of these types of crimes are brought to justice. Victims' voices, including the many voices of Epstein's alleged victims, must be heard, Burman said. Yeah, I mean, you're office did a real good job of that in 2016. All of your cohorts, all of your buddies, all of your awesome heart, charging after justice friends in the prosecutor's office. They sure did a real good job of that. In reality, your office and just about every other office in the whole entire nation abandoned these girls.

4:05So don't act like after the fact in 2000, after he's arrested, after the new expose by the Miami Herald, after the renewed interest that you and your office were on the front line of making this happen, such bullocks. It wasn't always that way. On February 29, 2016, the office's top human trafficking prosecutor, Amanda Kramer, met with defense attorneys representing survivors of Epstein and his alleged madam, co-conspirator, fellow child abuser, general all around scumbag and bipedal serpent, Gilan Maxwell, sources tell the daily news. So in 2016, Amanda Kramer, who was the head honcho of trafficking, the trafficking office of prosecuting people who engaged in that behavior, met with the attorneys for the survivors. And nothing came of it, obviously, another person who acts like they care, but really doesn't.

5:09Another person who's in a position of power, who decides not to act. Are these people ever going to be held responsible? At the very least, they should be barred from public office. At the very least, we should not be paying taxpayer dollars to these people. Don't you think? The attorneys urged Kramer to open an investigation of the duo. But Kramer had many questions, including how Epstein's controversial non-prosecution agreement with the Southern District of Florida in 2007, would impact a new investigation, the sources said. You see what it's about here, right? Right from the beginning, you see what the SDNY is about. It's not about the investigation. Kramer didn't want to do the legwork. She didn't want to put in the time. She didn't want to put in the resources and really go after this. What else were they busy doing in 2016 in that office? Oh yeah, busy doing political hit jobs. I forgot. They were way too busy to actually do their jobs. They were too busy engaged in political infighting.

6:14The FBI, the US Attorney's Office, the Just Us Department, all need to be completely torn down and rebuilt correctly. The attorney attempted to pick Manhattan federal prosecutor's interest in a second meeting in the summer of 2016. After Maxwell allegedly committed perjury, two sources said, now wait, perjury, we don't have time for that here. We don't have time to pursue someone like Guillain Maxwell on simple perjury. We are engaged in other things. We are busy doing other things. Really? The head of human trafficking. And you think the case is too rough to pursue. You don't know if you have the right or resources to pursue it. What does that even mean? You work at the SDNY. Plenty of resources for you, especially to go after somebody like Jeffrey Epstein, what these resources just automatically somehow appeared in the office now that after Maxwell has been arrested and the case has been growing.

7:20So those resources just showed up. No, those resources were available throughout the whole entire time. That Kramer was in office, that Preet was in office, that Loretta Lynch was in office. But you know what the truth is folks, they did not care. Point blank period. The sources said a second meeting occurred, but another source familiar with the outreach to the government insisted it never happened. Epstein was paying Maxwell's legal bills at the time, and the survivor's attorneys believed the pair were in a perjury conspiracy sources said. Well, how about some egg on the face for Mr. Preet's office? How about some egg on the face for Amanda Kramer? Because guess what? They were right. There was perjury going on. Epstein and Maxwell were still conversating. We're still in contact. We're still working together behind the scenes and demand a Kramer and Preet and Loretta Lynch did not care enough to pursue it.

8:28You want reality folks? There it is right for you right in your face. That's the reality of the situation. No bullshit and around. No nonsense. They did not care. Both efforts went nowhere. We were saying to anyone who would listen. We've got clients who are abused. Some of them underage. We have the evidence. There's a whole record that's been developed. We can establish beyond any reasonable doubt that there was a massive sex trafficking ring going on, said David Boyz, an attorney for Epstein survivors, and they didn't care. They didn't even bother to look at the evidence. What did Amanda Kramer care? She's way too busy going after her political opponents. We know that that's how Preet was rolling, and we certainly know Loretta Lynch isn't above it. So you see the nonsense. You see how this case was ignored for decades. And then you wonder why people are mad. You wonder why people are pissed off and demanding justice.

9:36This cannot be allowed to play out in America. This sort of thing cannot be allowed to happen. If you're engaged in a human sex trafficking operation, it is time for you to be punished. Modern day slavery, folks, that's exactly what it is. And right now, at this point in time, there are more people in bondage than at any other point in time in history. And human trafficking plays a huge gigantic part in that. And Preet and Amanda and Loretta Lynch, way too busy to engage, huh? The Manhattan U.S. attorney at the time, Preet Borara was not aware of the meetings the news confirmed. It's unclear how far up the Southern District's chain of command the proposal went. Oh, please, I don't buy that for a minute. I don't buy that for a minute. So plausible deniability, huh? His underlings are making these decisions, huh? No one's passing that over his desk, huh?

10:44Now if we're going to destroy Acosta, and we should have, and we did, then Preet and his office must also get the same exact treatment. They played a huge role in this in 2016. And furthermore, what did Preet ever do to go after Jeffrey Epstein, or Guillain Maxwell, what did his office ever do? Not a thing, not one thing ever. And this happened right under their nose. How many blocks away from their office was Jeffrey Epstein abusing these girls? We never contacted Preet directly. We thought he would have been briefed on a matter of this importance. And we hope to make progress with the staff and didn't want it to be seen as going over their head. But in retrospect, we probably should have gone to him directly, boys said, again, I don't buy that Preet didn't have any idea about what was going on. He ran that office like a dictator, iron gloved dictator.

11:47You mean to tell me he never saw anything for this? And if that's the case, then he wasn't as good at his job as people said. Then he wasn't as good of an administrator as he made himself out to be. How don't you know what your underlings are working on? How don't you know about big cases such as this? It's just like the people who say I didn't know Jeffrey Epstein was really. I was just hanging out and we were having some coffee. Yeah, okay, sure you didn't. That might work for an average human being, some normal person, you know, just worried about their life every day. But when someone like Preet, braha, bra, bra, acts like they had no idea what was going on in their office. I tell you here and now that is some straight up bullshit. I don't believe it for one single second. According to statistics, the average person walks past 36 murders in their lifetime. Unlike in Hollywood movies, they're not easy to spot. Where is she, buddy? Where is she? The devil made me turn her into ashes?

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13:57If you're ready to question reality with a grin, listen to us wherever you get your podcasts. We are the daily conspiracy podcast. Because reptilians don't take days off. They keep telling you that the Jeffrey Epstein story is finished, that it was investigated, that it was handled. But here's the part that they never explain, why the charges were so narrow when the conduct was so broad. How does a man with multiple properties, private aircraft, international travel, and a documented pipeline of victims get treated like a lone offender? Why were logistics treated as background noise instead of evidence? Why were facilitators reduced to footnotes instead of defendants? Well, that's where we come in. The Epstein Chronicles exists because those questions were never answered. This podcast breaks down what the public record actually shows, the deals that kept exposure, the decisions that limited scope, and the moments where prosecutors chose restraint, overreach.

15:05If you ever wondered why this case feels unfinished, why accountability stopped at the perimeter, or why so many names remain officially invisible, you've come to the right place. Welcome to the Epstein Chronicles. The Virgin Islands Attorney General accused Epstein of bringing underage girls to his private island of perversions as recently as 2018. So, how many girls could have been saved if Preet and his office would have done the right thing? How many girls would not have been abused if Preet and his office would have been focusing on actual crimes? But no, too busy plan politics, too busy trying to run hatchet jobs, and this is the result. This is the result when you have the FBI playing grab ass. A person closely familiar with the Southern District emphasized that understanding of the Epstein saga was radically different before the Miami-Herald published its bombshell investigation in late 2018.

16:11Yeah, right. That's such bullshit. I don't know about you folks, but I'm not letting them get off the hook with that one. Everybody knew, okay? Everybody knew. Anybody with Google knew what Jeffrey Epstein was about. Anybody who listened to the testimony of those girls knew what Jeffrey Epstein was about. And anybody saying any different, any prosecutor especially working in this office who says any different is a straight-up, bullshitting liar, okay? Liar. The story raised major questions about why then Southern District of Florida, US Attorney, Alex Acosta, let the perv off so easy. Reopening the case brought by another US Attorney is rare, the person said. Yeah, well, your job is to take those steps. Your job is to break the mold. Your job as the Hancho at SDNY is to take the lead for the rest of the country and show them how it's done, but you didn't have the stones.

17:14You didn't have the fruits, and you didn't care about these survivors. That's all it breaks down to. That's what it comes down to, and that's the bottom line. You just presume that major, significant, well-respected US Attorney's offices don't f this up, the person said. Look, the way that they're trying to pin all of the blame on the Florida office is hilarious here. Sure, they definitely are to blame for the non-prosecution agreement, how everything went the first time around, but let's be real. What have you done? Preet, what did you do to help these girls? Not a thing, never left it a finger! Never sanctioned Epstein, never went after the money laundering, you knew about the SARS, you knew about the financial crimes, and you didn't do shit. So please, get off of your ivory tower when you're speaking to me.

18:14It obviously seems very tragic in hindsight, but if people reopened our case, we'd lose our minds. I don't care. You see the problem here, folks? If people reopened our case, we'd lose our minds. Stuff your ego. Stuff it deep, because your ego should play no part in how we pursue criminal cases. If you f'd up, if you didn't do the right thing, and someone else reopens your case, well, do a better job as a prosecutor then. How about that? Too difficult to ask? Well, if that's the case, then kick rocks, we'll bring somebody in, like Alison Moe, who actually cares. The sources who described attorney's disappointment in 2016 were quick to credit the prosecutors and FBI agents who brought the Epstein and Maxwell cases that began under bourbon. But the attorney's earlier efforts to persuade the feds to investigate Epstein, led by boys, one of the country's most powerful lawyers, will likely be scrutinized in Maxwell's criminal case.

19:17Yeah, you think? Of course it's going to be scrutinized. They f'd up. They didn't do the right thing. The SDNY did not have their eye on the ball. There were way too busy playing politics. There were way too busy engaging. When they should have been chasing down and destroying Jeffrey Epstein's network have argued she was the victim of a perjury trap set by survivor's attorneys and that the feds improperly obtained her depositions which remain under seal. Well, here's an idea. If you're not lying about something, then you will not be walked into a perjury trap. Okay, and again, folks, remember when we're looking at this look at what her defense is talking about. They're talking about technicalities again. They're talking about loopholes because when it comes down to the evidence, they know it's not on their side and they have no chance of defending their client on the merits of her innocence alone.

20:20Prosecutors accused Maxwell of lying in those depositions about her knowledge of Epstein's sick lifestyle, including his collection of sex toys and obsession with underage girls. Her legal team will argue to the second circuit court of appeals Tuesday that the deposition should remain under seal. So that depositions happens today. We'll see what happens there and we will definitely report on that. The deposition transcripts obtained by the government and the indictment's perjury counts place in a new light plaintiffs earlier litigation conduct suggesting the planned use of Miss Maxwell's deposition as a perjury trap Maxwell's attorney Tai Gi wrote in July. Again, technicalities. It's not that my client is innocent. It's not that my client didn't do this. It's that we're going to use these technicalities so that you can't pursue justice. But attorneys for Epstein survivors were not in cahoots with the feds in 2016 despite their best efforts. Bingo. There you go. That's the tell.

21:252016 the FBI and the authorities were way too busy effing around to even bother with this case. Attorney Stan Pottenger Bradley Edwards and Peter Skinner attended a February sit down with Kramer in a conference room at the Southern District's headquarters at one street Andrews Plaza. Skinner and attorney at the firm Boy Schiller Flexner attended in part because he is a former assistant US attorney at the Southern District who knew Kramer sources said. So remember at all of these legal offices Schiller and boys boys and Schiller have every want to pronounce it whatever all these powerful offices they all have X prosecutors that work with them because these prosecutors have a relationship with the current prosecutors and well I guess it doesn't hurt to have a friendly face on when you're trying to work out a deal. The team represented Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts in a defamation lawsuit against Maxwell and alleged madam co-conspirator fellow child abuser general all around scus bag and bipedals serpent for Epstein.

22:33The lawsuit focused on whether the British socialite bipedals serpent smeared Roberts name by saying she lied about Epstein sex trafficking scheme. But it also provided a means to obtain evidence and force people and Epstein's orbit to testify under oath it sure did and it was a brilliant move on the part of the lawyers. These lawyers know their business and the lawyers for the survivors for the most part are really charging hard here and they're really working to make sure that things swing in the right direction. The legal team presented Kramer the southern district's coordinator for justice department initiatives combating human trafficking in child exploitation with what they'd learned about Epstein's scheme. The multi-millionaire financier pedophile had abused dozens of underage girls in Palm Beach and elsewhere during sexualized massages they said. With Maxwell's assistance Epstein had created a trafficking pyramid scheme in which girls were rewarded for recruiting new underage victims.

23:37Kramer was concerned about the non prosecution agreement according to sources notice about the technicality it's not about you know what I don't care about that this is an important case I'll find a way around it I'm going to prosecute these people. No Kramer you know we got this non prosecution agreement I don't think we can go after them in the technicalities that kind of shit makes me crazy if you're a prosecutor and wrongdoing has been done investigated if your investigation turns up that the the person in question is guilty arrest them that's how the system works. This has already been looked at a source recalled Kramer saying so what you're really asking us to do is redo what the US attorney in Florida did yeah that's exactly what you're being asked to do miss Kramer you don't even bring this to your boss something this important didn't go to pre and I'm sure Loretta Lynch had no idea talk about covering for people talk about making sure your friends are covered for what an absolute dumpster fire

24:48Loretta Lynch was what an absolute dumpster fire Mr. Preet was so anytime you hear one of the people from the previous administration get up there with their ivory towers and their platitudes and there were down with me twos well just remember in 2016 they didn't do shit either. Acosta negotiated the agreement with Epstein's powerhouse legal team that allowed the sex offender to dodge serious federal charges and plead guilty to state prostitution charges and again you really think just like with Lynch and and and Preet here and Amanda Kramer that this didn't go up the the line didn't go up to the Bush administration didn't go up to McKaysie and his deputies of course it did. These attorney generals in these states they don't make these decisions on their own they have bosses that they have to answer to as well folks and the bureaucracy is large.

25:54The deal is a critical chapter in the Epstein saga which the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals described as a tale of national disgrace now remember the 11th Circuit is looking at this to see what's what and we might get that non prosecution agreement overturned and if that's the case and that gets overturned oh it will be a field day folks an absolute field day on bringing these scumbags to heal. A second source recalled Kramer looking for a New York angle to the Epstein scheme which would allow him to be charged in Manhattan but evidence that girls that endured the multi millionaires massages at the upper east side mansion was thin at the time the sources said. That's what they want you to believe it was thin at the time that's an outright lie and Amanda Kramer should be held responsible for not pursuing this she should at the very least have to answer some hard questions because this is absolute bullshit.

26:58Do you have cases of Epstein's abuse here in New York a second source familiar with the meeting recalled Kramer asking the answer was not necessarily or at least not yet. We asked why can't you open an investigation and look for them will look for them and you look for them so. Kramer who did not seem unsympathetic or skeptical also asked about the statue of limitations for some of Epstein's crimes the sources said so I don't think the author here and the sources try and make it cover for Kramer let's just be honest all right let's just be honest about what occurred here they were negligent their duties in the STNY. Preet was the boss all buck stops with him and further Loretta Lynch should be hold to account as well. The team left the meeting feeling optimistic the AUSA acted confident that a case would be brought against Epstein for crimes committed against Virginia and others in New York. Of course first she had to have the facts witnesses evidence and victims of a New York crime.

28:00We assured the prosecutor that the number of victims in New York far exceeded those discovered in Florida the group walked out excited that the New York was finally going to bring a case against Epstein. You would think that when you bring all of that to an attorney US attorney's office and you present all of the facts and you let them know that there's more victims in New York than there were even in Florida that the attorney general would at the very least kick a few tires ask a few questions initiate a low key investigation none of that occurred. I said to David and Pete don't hold your breath the southern district obviously doesn't know who they're dealing with yet Edwards wrote in his book relentless pursuit my fight for the victims of Jeffrey Epstein. Edwards was right not to celebrate the attorneys did not hear back from prosecutors according to sources not even a call back not even a courtesy call hey look my boss told me that this is something that doesn't ring with us right now I can't pursue this I'm sorry none of that that would just won't call and we'll ghost them will blow smoke up their ass will get the survivors fired up that they're going to get justice and then we'll just ignore it.

29:16That is the SDNY under pre that is the SDNY under Loretta Lynch. The team thought they'd found a new way to entice the feds after Maxwell's depositions by attorney cigarette McCauley and boys in April in July 2016. Boys in pot and jury approached Kramer and asked if the southern district will consider charging Maxwell with perjury sources said she mentioned the comedy typical typical pit between US attorneys around the country a source said. The lawyers for Epstein survivors did not hear back from the southern district regarding the perjury proposal they believe that adjust this department tradition of not second guessing another US attorneys work took precedence over the southern district of New York's cherished reputation for fearlessness and independence now they fearless and independent when they're chasing down like a stormy Daniels right if they think they're going to get some headlines out of it. Hell yeah they're charging hard we're the SDNY we're here to kick your ass meanwhile they had this hall laid out to them on a platter and they don't move until a journalist kicks the tires and gets this shit going that should give us confidence in the SDNY.

30:34That should give us confidence in Mr. Preet and Amanda Kramer certainly doesn't for me all it does is open up a whole new line of questions a whole new battle because these people just like the scum in Florida should be held responsible for their inaction. David was particularly frustrated by the failure to pursue a perjury charge a source familiar with the meeting said the source recalled boys telling colleagues we have her dead to rights. Kramer declined to comment a spokesman for the southern district of New York declined to comment that's nice huh isn't that real nice that they don't even comment they work for you remember they work for me and you and they won't even comment about their stupid ass decision making. It tells you all you need to know we're certainly not in charge the just us department out of control the CIA out of control the FBI out of control and the two tier justice system in the United States most assuredly folks is out of control.

31:42A timeline of Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficking case the office's attitude changed after the Miami Herald highlighted the perversion of justice that resulted in Epstein's receiving a slap on the wrist again if you needed Julie Brown a journalist to blow this out of the water for you as a prosecutor in New York when all of this was handed to you when you had phone calls over this man for years and people. Reported their behavior if you needed Julie K Brown story to kick your ass into gear you my friends are failures and you have no business in that prosecutors office so retire quit go get a job at the grocery store you're more equipped for that. Epstein killed himself last year allegedly while awaiting trial for underage sex trafficking Maxwell is pleaded not guilty to grooming Epstein's underage survivors and perjury and is awaiting trial neither Epstein or Maxwell's lawyers responded to inquiries.

32:50This was not a situation where we were dealing with people who didn't care I never thought they didn't believe our story I never had any doubt they were that they were sympathetic even outraged by it they simply seem to feel they couldn't be seen as second guessing what the US attorney in Florida had done boys said well boys has to say that right boys has to be nice about this he wants the prosecution to continue doing their jobs I on the other hand do not have to be nice about it. I can say whatever the F I want and in my opinion this office was negligent pre was negligent and Miss Kramer was also negligent and it goes all the way up to Loretta Lynch buck stops there right she's the boss. If those are the rules we're going to be using then those are the rules we're using all around for everybody folks okay so Loretta Lynch should be asked about this. Preet next time he's on the TV running his fat mouth about the great job he did and when he was at the SDNY somebody should just shove this right down his throat and ask him point blank yo Preet why didn't you care about the Jeffrey Epstein survivors why didn't your office initiate an investigation until a journalist started nosing around.

34:09You don't think that your investigators could have unearth this you don't think that your investigators could have done their job and help these survivors they could have. You guys just didn't care. If you'd like to contact me you can do that at bobby kapuchie at proton mail dot com that's BO BBY CAP you CCI at proton mail dot com. You can also find me on Twitter at BO BBY underscore CAP you CCI all of the links that go at this episode can be found in the description box.