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The Right Is Eating Itself Alive… and 2028 Will Prove It | Alan Hidalgo | DSH #1815

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From AmFest, Sean sits down with Alan Hidalgo (a longtime friend) for a raw, fast-moving conversation about the state of American politics heading into 2028. They talk about why the conservative movement feels more divided than ever, how internet media incentives reward the loudest voices, and why internal civil wars can cost elections. Alan shares his take on the “post-Charlie” vacuum, the rise of personality-driven politics, the tension between free speech and platform responsibility, and why he believes Republicans could “fumble the bag” if they can’t unify. They also get into how online outrage cycles shape real-world voting behavior—and what needs to change before the next election. What You’ll Learn 👇 🗳️ Why 2028 could come down to unity vs. infighting 🧩 What happens when a movement loses its “glue” figure 📈 How “viral” incentives reshape political opinions 🎙️ Why conviction on camera can be more persuasive than facts 🧠 The danger of speaking in absolutes vs. “maybe” thinking 🧨 How internal purity tests can cost midterms + elections 🗣️ Free speech vs. “platforming” and where the line is Chapters (with timestamps) 0:00 — “We could lose 2028” + why image and charisma matter 0:31 — Sean & Alan reunite at AmFest (how they met) 1:00 — Business + politics: why Allan got louder after Charlie 1:24 — The conservative movement feels fractured (and why) 2:06 — Candace, media cycles, and why audiences get pulled in 4:24 — Midterms + 2028: “If the base doesn’t show up, we lose” 7:26 — Tucker Carlson: viral strategy vs. real conviction 9:23 — Nick Fuentes, free speech, and “let ideas crash on their own” 13:29 — Grading Trump’s second term + why the “files” debate is messy 29:43 — National security fears, party infighting, and what’s next (plus Allan’s IG) 🎙️ APPLY OR CONNECT 👉 Interested in being a guest? Apply here: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application 💼 SPONSORS The Light Systems: https://www.thelightsystems.com/ Discount Code: SEAN Select Quote: https://www.selectquote.com/life-insurance 🥗 Fuel your health with Viome: https://buy.viome.com/SEAN Use code “Sean” at checkout for a discount! 📩 Business Inquiries & Sponsorships [email protected] 👤 GUEST Alan Jesus Hidalgo: https://www.instagram.com/alanhid/ 🎧 LISTEN TO THE PODCAST 🍏 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 🎵 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 📸 Follow the Host Sean Kelly on Instagram: @seanmikekelly ⚠️ DISCLAIMER The views and opinions expressed by guests on Digital Social Hour are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the host, Sean Kelly, or the Digital Social Hour team. The host and producers are not responsible for statements, claims, or opinions shared by guests during the show. This content is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only and should not be considered legal, medical, financial, or professional advice. Listeners are encouraged to do their own research and consult qualified professionals when appropriate. While we aim to share accurate and reliable information, no guarantees are made regarding completeness or accuracy. 🔥 Stay tuned for more conversations with creators, founders, and innovators shaping the digital world. Keywords AmFest, Turning Point, conservative movement, 2028 election, Gavin Newsom, Republican infighting, right wing media, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, free speech absolutist, platforming debate, Visit Our Website at https://digital-social-hour.simplecast.com/   Presented by https://podgo.io/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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i think we're gonna lose in twenty twenty eight to gavin new scum uh... i mean really think of when president yes well yes i think he's the he's charismatic he's he's good looking uh... a lot of people are gonna fall for it because the average american is pretty pretty dumb uh... doesn't really check into things and they just you know whoever's the better looking smoother talkers the but i mean hell he's still in california all right guys here at amfest with someone i've known for almost a decade now i think i know i've gotten out in here but today we're talking politics we're not talking uh... e-commerce yeah that's how we met though i think yeah you hit jersey champs i remember man you had like every single jersey and uh i knew a lot of athletes from LSU so yeah i think you're the one who uh you told me about odel beckham i believe like yeah years ago yeah yeah yeah yeah i went to school together so crazy but what's new with you man they're just uh... building still building businesses uh... i mean i'm still

very active in politics too i've been talking a lot on my instagram about what's been going on in the country you know i'm obviously more on the conservative side and uh... ever since the whole incident which harley happened it's like date i just want to like speak up even ten times more than before um so yeah i've just been active in business and active in politics yeah the charlie stuff really seems to have divided the conservative movement right yeah yeah it did honestly i think it was even before that i think i think charlie was the person that was keeping everything together like he was literally like keeping the glue together the crazy nut jobs all the way on the right and then the more moderate people the Jewish people and he was like trying to hold but now that he's gone it's like who's going to be that person i really i'm scared that we're going to just collapse here yeah um because both sides respected him a lot and now there's not that unifying person that can like sit and keep the glue together if that makes sense do you have any hope after erica met with kandis yesterday that there will be some

more unification moving forward well so i watched the interview with kandis and pierce yesterday yeah it was pretty long but um i don't know dude because like whenever kandis came on she still sounds like a nut job i mean she comes on she comes on pierce morgan she's still spewing the same stuff then she's backtracking i mean it's obvious to me that she's just monetizing off of the situation ever since she started uh with the whole thing with uh with daily wire yeah she started hating Jews then Kanye West said he was going to go death con on jews she was very supportive of that this whole theory where the the uh we never went to the moon i mean it's like this is just a common pattern with her i just think she's a nut job yeah yeah she used to be pretty same though right i used to love her i used i used to think i do think she's very smart and intellectual but um this might be controversial i i think she has a mental illness i think she's type 2 by polar uh if i knew people my family that have bipolar disorder and a lot of the delusions the

the things that she says it's very similar things i've seen in family members um kandis also has bipolar disorder and you just see like a lot and i like both of them as people but i think it's clear like they're not all the way right in the head and why are we pretending that like what they're saying has credibility i i don't understand when did you stop supporting her as much was it the charlie stuff was it the brujete macron thing was it before that it was before the macron stuff yeah so it was uh so first term of trump very supportive of kandis thought she was amazing she was very level headed um i really think and this again might be controversial after she started having babies like back to back i just noticed like a shift in her uh i don't know if it's postpartum or what exactly happened i mean there's a lot of things that that can happen no fault to her you know because it's hormones in the body but at the end of the day can we really sit here and pretend like she's the same kandis ohens uh trump term first to now

no i mean i just think there's no way i think once her and uh ben like had their issues uh that's when all hell kind of started breaking loose with her you know it's this fighting continues are you worried about midterms are you worried about the 28 election oh yeah absolutely uh i think we're gonna lose the midterms i think there's literally such a small chance that we we'd be able to do that i think we're gonna lose in 2028 to gavin newscom um i mean really think whole win president yes wow yes i think he's the he's charismatic he's he's good looking a lot of people are gonna fall for it because the average american is pretty pretty dumb uh doesn't really check into things and they just you know whoever's the better looking smoother talkers the but i mean hell he's still in california you know what i mean um i think we're gonna fumble the bag though not because gavin newscom is so great i think it's because the republicans are ungrateful and they're fumbling the bag and you have this faction that is just gone loony crazy and uh basically uh are we allowed

to curse on this they're fucking it up for everyone else i mean they're literally fucking this up like donald trump took took uh almost a bullet for us assassinated almost twice was going to be put in jail for the rest of his life all to have this ruin by tucker carlson kandas ohens um and people in that in that camp so i really think it's i really think it's messed up i understand why trump is irritated with these people because like dude yeah i get it he's not perfect there's a couple things that haven't been figured out but the bottom line is he's been in for one year he's trying to fix four years of bullshit policies as quickly as he can and we all know that depending on how the country is next come next year it's gonna probably determine how midterms go but the main thing is these people that support kandas these cult followers that don't really think for themselves and are just hypnotized by her because i think a her average uh listener if you look at it it's it's younger women uh a lot of them are are stay at home moms um i i don't know i

just think a lot of them are kind of delusional and they're gonna cost us the midterms are gonna cost us the election because the way i see it is uh they're not gonna show up and vote for republicans because they're they don't like trump anymore they don't like jd vance they think he's horrible and so if those people don't show up we lose remember for trump to win he had to get uh all the conservatives he had to get black people he had to get hispanics he had to get the drogans the Elon musk of the world to win you know like to do what he didn't uh last last year so if let's say let's say these nut cases in the conservative party make up i don't know 20 30% of the party if those people don't show up we lose everything go that's just trump pilates assembly avengers he had to get rfk he had to get tolcy he had to get Elon everyone Joe Rogan Andrew Schultz like people that were democrats before yeah so like he had to do that to just barely get in so imagine if

his own party doesn't show up to vote like we'll see what happens um now you mentioned Tucker earlier yeah my uber driver from the airport thinks he's cia he's coming out with weird stuff about venezuela i saw he predicted we'd be in a war with venezuela what's your take on Tucker Carlson yeah i used to love Tucker Carlson so i i'm a fox news fanatic like since i was young he was the most entertaining anchor when he was on fox um but it's like i think when he got off fox he had to figure out a way to scramble and make the same income that he was used to i mean the guy was making pennant twenty million a year at fox news yeah and then all of a sudden he has to go independent so i think his whole thing is how can i go viral what's the craziest nuttiest things that i can say that's gonna get attention that's what makes money that's what gets view we all know that so i think a lot of the shit he says he's disingenuous he doesn't actually believe it and um as far as Tucker goes i saw the venezuela thing i saw that he said that these congress

people got briefed their work coming again i think he's full of shit and i think he's doing that to go viral i think it's just a strategy for for media you think he's potentially tied to some government agencies protecting what you think he's potentially tied to some government agencies uh there is potential for that i mean i know his father was in it i i don't know if he is i know there's a lot of people that don't like him though like i think there's a lot of people in the federal government even trump i think trump's like on his last thread with Tucker he's like still allows him to come to the party but he really doesn't really i don't think he really fucks him anymore i mean i just think you know Tucker has obviously a big influence but what i notice about Tucker and cannis were the common theme is they they are very they're very convicted in what they say they sound very convicted and i think that's why people believe him but if you actually you know listen to their understanding of history and how politics work they sound like idiots to me yeah i mean it's just like it doesn't it's not it's not reality and

i think they're both trying to just make the most they can where does phoenches fit in all this because he's beefing with Tucker he's beefing with cannis what do you think of his movement i think phoenches is really smart i mean the dude is just trying to be his own animal kind of like Donald trump was like just like when Donald trump came to the republican uh party he wasn't trying to be like anyone he was like his own thing and no one could take him out and i think nick is kind of doing that if you look at it in the in the republican you know charlie's gone now so who's really the loudest who are the people listening to nick um though i didn't agree with some of the crazy things that i've heard him say you know um a lot of the shit he says is also true yeah and you see older establishment people um charlie was included in that at one point that were kind of trying to suppress him and really dismiss and ignore him and i think that's a fatal mistake um because there's stronger i'm sorry they made him stronger it made him stronger i mean look he's on pierce morgan he got on tucker show um he just did uh he's been doing a lot of big

a lot of big people are now inviting him on the rogues uh potentially going to have him on a rogan oh really i didn't know that he was thinking about having him on yeah i think he should i don't i don't agree did you can have the stupidest crazyest ideas you should not be like not allow to go on platforms and and say what you want at the end of the day if you really think those the people that think the flintesis are really bad if they think he's so bad you'll let him go on those places and crash and burn on his own it's like so you're a free speech absolutist yeah yeah yeah 100% as long as you're not like you know saying i'm gonna go kill people or something crazy like that yeah i think i mean if you say you hate you know his panics or rights or whatever you should be allowed to say that let the public be the one to crucify you like don't be the person to not allow that person to go and speak yeah there's this new technology floating around that people cannot stop talking about it's called the light system before you roll your eyes it's not some gadget you strap on or supplement that promises the world every once in a

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they said yeah i get i get some criticism and hate when i have uncertain guess because i'm platforming them but i don't agree with that because they already have a big platform usually you know i mean yeah i don't like any sense no i think it's i think it's stupid i think i think the most boring conversations are the ones where people agree with everything you say so boring right i mean it's why jubilee is so popular i love jubilee i love jubilee great there's nothing like that dude if if i mean it's like you go on there yeah you can tell that they kind of lean left the actual organization but do they don't give a fuck they'll let the they'll let the most racist crazy nut job on there or they'll let the most nutty transgender you know or Palestinian person like they'll let everyone go on i think that's why they're so successful i even watch dr might debate who i i don't agree with a lot of stuff yeah he says he even did a hit piece on me but i liked jubilee because they'll bring both sides together yeah you know you should get on there i would love to if you're watching this jubilee

so you think trump if you had to grade him on his second term a through f objectively what would you give him right now i would give him a b plus wow yeah it's pretty good yeah yeah i would give him bb plus i mean did you think about it the immigration uh reversing uh the the stuff he's doing with terrorists i mean we've made billions of dollars this year the country has in revenue strengthening the military getting out the woke policies um taking the the transgenders out of limb and sports um i mean dude there's i could go on and on he has delivered i would say on probably 80% of the things he talked about other than the files i can't think of anything major but to be honest with you uh Sean when it comes to those files i think i think it's kind of disingenuous that people have said that oh trump said this over and over and over no no he didn't i want you know i've been to i used to be a youth director for the trump campaign so i've been to many of his rallies uh i don't recall him ever making that a big deal it was always like

cash potel dumb dumb and you know it was those people speaking for him and yes he's like okay but there was an interview where they asked him hey will you release the mlk files yes will you release it was on fox will you release the jfk yes will you release the abstain uh yeah maybe uh i need to make sure that it's done the right way like you know he said kind of like that and um so i really think people that are holding him to that are being really unfair and you got to think like dude there is people in there that just because they took a picture with them they're going to be blasted all over and it's not like is it fair to those people to be have the whole public say oh you were friends with him you did what he did no so i think there's a balance and i'm more of a i'm a conservative that's i like to take a level headed approach yeah like i don't like to do crazy shit that makes no sense i feel low yeah so what do you think of abanjino stepping down um he said he's retiring next month right yeah i think it's very interesting

i was actually shocked to see it but then i'm also not shocked because i remember earlier this year him and pa ambondi and we're having a spat in the white house and it you know according to sources um so there's several things there one he was making he was making seven figures a year income from the podcast yeah he was crushing it he was crushing it um he had a lot of loyal fans he had the number one show on rumble i believe before for us yeah so you got to understand this guy went from making multiple seven figures income to now he's in a position where i think the salary if i'm not mistaken is one to 200 grand yeah for uh deputie up uh FBI director you know he's second in command um so i think income has something to do with it i know he has health issues that's what i'm being told is that he had some health issues um but maybe who knows maybe the reason he's like hey i don't like how this charlie things being handled with investigation maybe he uh maybe cash piss him off maybe maybe there's something going on that we don't know about and that's the

difference between me and conspiracy theorist i say maybe these people are like no a hundred percent he did this he did that how the fuck do you know are you on the inside do you work in the FBI i mean it's i i think they speak in absolutes it's speaking absolutes i just think it's i just think it's not fair and it's ridiculous and don bingino is a patriot and anyone that says otherwise is i think they're delusional and i think you know how they have uh t tds trump drum syndrome uh i don't know dude i think they're i think uh i think that's happening with our own party too there's people that are like trump's not good anymore he's paid the Jews all these different things and it's like dude here's one thing i want to say any person that says that trump is being paid and bought i think is a moron why because trump has all trump has shown a pattern that he always does whatever the fuck he wants number one number two Elon Musk gave him $260 million last year to campaign

and then trump still told him to f off earlier this year yeah and they had their beef so in my opinion or from a rational standpoint right does it make sense to say that trump is paid off by some Jews in the us if the richest man in the world richest man richer than any individual Jews the richest man still couldn't make trump do what he wanted with the eevee mandates i mean there just doesn't make sense i think paid off is a stretch i i could see influenced influenced you know mirror madele send that gets brought up a lot yeah what what you donate like a hundred million who marium yeah hundred million um every politician's influence so that that one is yeah because they got to that level you need donors you need don't you rich donors yeah yeah i mean trump had to have everyone i mean he had he had mark secondbury back in him he had uh basas i mean he had uh i i believe sam ultimatum probably back to him too uh these guys all contributed a million dollars to his inauguration um you know i was there was it was an amazing inauguration um so uh yes but

what politician hasn't been influenced does that mean that trump succumbs to everything they want no hundred percent whenever netanyahu got out of line and and shot those missiles at guitar trump called netanyahu call them out don't you know custom out from what i heard and um he even went on the news and said uh netanyahu BBs being an idiot yeah essentially so people say that netanyahu somehow controls trump's i think are i think it's delusional what do you think of Jewish people getting the blame on everything bad that happens i think it's ridiculous um i think it's so stupid i think what the conservatives need to get back to is focusing on the real enemy the left uh the radical left the lunatics those are the enemy uh i mean do there's Jewish people on the left and there's Jewish people on the right i mean so it's like what people need to understand is israel is a country Judaism is a religion and and being Jewish is a heritage and saying that the entire country is a certain way is ridiculous um netanyahu is being charged with war crimes in

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so i just think that there's a lot of ignorance and people are just grasping this whole and i also think it's jealousy i if i'm being honest um you know i'm christian i'm not Jewish but i think a lot of people are jealous of Jews i think that's really what it comes down to sensor what what do you mean financial sense i mean if you look at um history um if you're a christian uh Jews were god chosen people they were the people that he chose but i don't know why the hell he chose them but those are the people that he chose um he blessed them when they were following his word when they ran away from him he caused he cursed them he destroyed them he's they were in slavery so at the end of the day as a christian i don't think that i need to you know worship the Jews and and they can do no wrong no i can still hold them accountable but at the end of the day yeah i still do think like their god chosen people jesus was a Jew um you know it says in the bible and revelation those that um those that bless israel will be blessed those

that curse will be cursed i don't want the us cursing israel and it also says in the last days that um all the nations of the world are gonna turn against the Jews and i think we're going in that direction i'm just surprised it's coming from our party from the republicans i you know i always expect it to left to do that left they're supporting terrorists when these terrorists would chop off their head chop off their balls chop off their everything mutilate them yep um it makes no sense but now you have conservative so-called conservatives that are like doing the same thing i agree the left started cancel culture but now i feel like it's bigger on the right isn't that crazy yeah i feel like the right's doing a lot of canceling now to be honest like if you were to tell me this a year ago you know this is what's so interesting last year uh november 2024 everybody was unified under trump every conservative non-conservatives the rfk crowd all those people libertarians went for trump and then it's like the iranian strike thing happens in the whole Epstein and it's

like now you have a big portion of the base that's completely flipped on trump they went a wall i think kanda soans is a curse on the party i think she's one of the main people responsible i think tucker krolson is as well though not as much so you know he went on putin he went to katar he did a few things those things don't really bother me but what bothers me is when you start saying shit that you don't know what you're talking about and you're confusing lifelong conservatives and people that don't i hate to say it but the people that are obsessed with tucker and krolson they don't think for themselves he's got an older crowd and like a boomer audience or kind of like middle age he does but he's he's lost a lot of those and i think he's gained a lot more of the conspiracy i could see the thirties twenty once he started his own pod yeah because he used to be on fox which was an older audience that makes sense but like i'll give you an example shan my my grandparents they're they're in their eighties uh their fox news fanatics like they watch it all day

they used to love tucker whenever he was uh you know on fox now they can't stand in wow so he's changed yeah he's changed and that's why he's losing people yeah he sold out in a way but then he's gaining these other things he's getting it him and kandas are creating the same that's why you saw them together in national at that uh event they did together i think nick is being smart by kind of distancing himself and in a way even though nick he says he says fucked up stuff don't like he does but he's even more rational like how is it that the not the pro nazi guy is more rational than kandas Owens tucker Carlson tucker was the most popular anchor on fox news when he was there kandas was the most popular black republican i agree i'm gonna but i saw nick he he basically said israel didn't kill charlie kirk when i saw him say that and take that hard stance i think that's when he started really changing yeah i think he's realizing like hey uh no these conspiracy people they're going a little too far they're nuts yeah even

Alex Jones Alex Jones is the godfather of crazy conspiracy theories i i've never liked Alex Jones i always thought he was a nutcase but even he has enough sense i saw literally a last week he called out kandas Owens and tucker and said they're full of shit that's crazy full of show you know that's how you know it's and it's again mental illness yeah what else would explain mental illness and obsession with wanting viewership i think that's what it comes down to but i think kandas right now is about to lose a lot of credibility uh she got destroyed on pierce morgan i love that pierce morgan called her out i was waiting for someone to finally do that i think more people should have her come on and they should question her about everything because no one's questioning her she's sitting here in her cozy uh little podcast room in tenisee and not having to really face any um any tough questions from people i wish they recorded that meeting with her in Erica i would have loved it would have been juicy right i would have loved to see yeah because Erica doesn't seem like she messes around no i mean i've met her once or twice she's very sweet

in private she has a little bit more on the tip inside i would say yep um but it's disgusting the things that i've seen people make her out to be they're saying her family this she's trying to kill Charlie she wanted to i mean it's absolutely stupid anyone that knows Erica knows that she didn't like being in the spotlight do she wanted Charlie to be doing that stuff and she wanted to just be at home taking care of her kids so now she's put into position where her her husband dies in a horrible way it goes all over the world i would arguably say this is the most famous assassination of our generation i mean it's like bottom line it's got to be i think after this mlk and gfk or you know that's like our parents arrow though yeah but in our generation is the biggest one all of a sudden she goes from being a mom um i used to see her all the time at the at the building that i do my bible studies at yeah she they had a condo there she was always with she was always with the kids on the rooftop playing with them Charlie was always traveling on the road doing her thing she did not want to she did not want this role i think there's a lot of pressure being put

on her by the the organization itself um maybe even she's talking to god god's telling her to i don't know where it's coming from but you got to understand you're taking someone who was more of an introverted person who wasn't used to the limelight and now you're throwing every camera on them and she's being microanalyzed by every freaking person i just think i just think it's unfair and i think kandas is uh fake i think she's fake as fuck for she knew this family she knew charlie she knew his wife i think she's jealous i think she lowkey wanted to be charlie's wife i mean if you think about it uh kandas if you look at those videos where kandas and charlie were like dancing in the car and singing i mean dude they look like like they had to have made out at least once they have they had to have it like some sort of chemistry i don't think it was completely platonic yeah but i think charlie wasn't really into her enough and he's but the rumor goes that he saw her at like a trump rally and i think that's what happened you fell in love with uh erica and i think

kandas got salty she went for the next best thing which was the uk turning point guy and uh but that's not enough for her i guess so i think she's just trying to take erica down i feel the yeah i think you do you also worry about the spread of islam to the west as a christian shout out today sponsor quince as the weather cools i'm swapping in the pieces that actually gets the job done that a warm durable and built to last quince delivers every time with wardrobe staples that'll carry you through the season they have false staples that you'll actually want to wear like the hundred percent mongolian cashmere for just sixty dollars they also got classic fit denim and real leather and wool out of wear that looks sharp and holds up by partnering directly with ethical factories and top artisans quince cuts out the middle man still a two deliver premium quality at half the cost of similar brands they've really become a go-to across the board you guys know how i love linen and how i've talked about it on previous episodes i picked up some linen pants and they feel incredible the quality is definitely noticeable compared to other brands layer up this fall with pieces that feel as good as they look go to quince.com slash dsh for free shipping on your order

and 365 their returns they're also available in canada too oh yeah yeah actually this is something recently i've been talking about a lot um did it is uh it is insane to me that you have kandis and tucker that are in bed with muslims with islam go read uh go look at the last like five posts from tucker on his facebook all he is doing is talking about katar katar this katar that you got all these idiotic right wingers that are now thinking palestine is some innocent country that hasn't done anything wrong well guess what uh you have the thing that just happened in australia uh you have uh did you see uh two days ago the fii just thwarted oh and cally right

cally uh guys got arrested all palestinian oh really yeah they're palestinian planning a terror attack oh yeah i think they're planning something here at amphas too what yeah potentially fucking serious i think so security wasn't sane to that yeah it was and it should be um when i went to the inauguration in uh dc uh i was very i was really disappointed with how bad the security was it wasn't good it wasn't good uh i remember getting in there the day before the inauguration driving through dc in an uber i barely saw any cops it wasn't until like the day of that you saw all the that's surprising all the people yeah the assassination time too yeah i think it's messed up but yeah i wouldn't be surprised if something happens here who knows she's not my hope that doesn't happen that's that's awful we're gonna run out the exit door i'm already looking for that you got me think it yeah uh but you see islam as a threat as a whole or they call it radical islam like to see it so again i like to look at things from a level headed perspective i do i think all Muslims are bad no i have friends that are Muslim that

that are decent people but the radical islam is definitely a problem um i think it's all i think that's mental illness too i think i think people aren't i think that needs to be treated like a mental illness it needs to be treated uh it's not normal it's not normal to want to go and kill people that don't have the same religion as you i mean that's something that people did in the in the bronze days yeah and then people are doing this in 2025 wild it doesn't make sense so yeah i think we need to get a grip on it i think that any body that has any link to any sort of terrorist activity needs to be there reason needs to be revoked they need to be out of the united states they need to be questioned if we can charge him with the crime let's charge him with the crime yeah um i i am afraid that uh yesterday uh they just stopped another Muslim who was planning an attack in New Orleans really which is my hometown where i'm from oh shit yeah this literally just happened yesterday oh my god New Year's Eve if you remember last New Year's Eve they did a terrorist attack in New Orleans oh they did yeah that was the same day that um that the cyber truck blew up in Vegas

oh yeah front of truck tower yeah and then New Orleans 13 people were killed by a Muslim um and then we had the wildfires that later started i remember that cyber truck watch Sean Ryan had someone on his show to talk about that one that was weird very weird if it wasn't for the truck the whole thing would have exploded yeah but the cyber truck kept it 100 percent contained right and and yeah and guess who was in office during that time it was it was Biden still oh my because you know Trump didn't get inaugurated to the 20th of January so i think that Biden was administration was complicit in trying to hope and pray that Trump would get killed and they did everything they could to make it in a situation where it was easy for someone to actually be able to do it i remember there's a viral video bear and Trump whispering into Biden's ear like we know what you did have you seen that yeah many times that video's ledger there yeah and Biden's face looked like so shocked yeah yeah i mean i i i've heard things that he told him like f you or we're coming after

you like or your father yeah such a mystery dude i hope one day that he gets in the political realm i'm interested to see which Trump is gonna step up yeah i love Trump i think he's been the best president the u.s has ever had there's nothing like him and i want to see the legacy go on don't get me wrong i think jd's cool i think rubia's cool i'll be honest with you though i don't like politicians running for president yeah i think when made Trump so unique and awesome was that he was a business person and he wasn't in that world so it'd be nice to see dawn junior run one day i could see Laura trump high up i could see eric potentially right eric's actually starting to get he used to be kind of more on the soft nice side but i've seen over the years that eric has actually become more and more kind of like i was aggressive yeah like yeah i think book was good by the way i just mentioned it eric oh it was good it was about he was the most prosecuted man in history yeah so it was about dealing with all the law fair eric specifically what eric was yeah he got subpoena the hundreds of times wow because they couldn't get to trump i guess so

they were going after us and i and i met eric several times he's got to be one of the nicest guys like like for the stature that he has he's very nice very humble yeah i remember when i used to work for the trump team when i was younger um they had a lady outside of one of the rallies of the stadium her car broke down her and dawn got out lifted her car to a gas station like she was like in neutral yeah and they like pushed her car to a gas station yeah wow this was in like 2015 that's crazy so they were still big time i mean yeah do you like what other billionaires kids you know that are like are humble enough to like do something like that you can learn a lot about someone by their kids yeah you know i think they're way more humble than their father is but i mean it's just yeah trump trump it's it's his stubbornness that is his greatest asset and also like it is greatest like yeah downfall i think yeah who do you i'd be curious to know from your side who do you think is the most of the kids similar to their father

first and hour or baron baron he has three kids right baron no i'm saying trump's kids baron so he has Tiffany he has Ivanka he has don oh Ivanka he has eric and he has baron i don't know Tiffany at all she's kind of the least involved i would say junior junior what do you think as far as like not giving a fucking just saying what he wants i think junior yeah yeah i think as far as looks baron yeah but it's like we don't really know enough about his personality i mean i know bow and hammer best friends i yeah but um i mean he's still got many years so where me and you will be in our forties or fifties by the time baron you might be running by done i yeah potentially we ever run for political office i would yeah i've considered it many times on a local level or i'd like to do maybe congress i mean i i think like look if aoc who's a nut job who was a bartender who just came out of nowhere had no name recognition um mandami who same kind of situation

actually his family was wealthy though but came out of nowhere if they those guys can do it um yeah why not me like i mean dig like at the end of the day these older republicans that have hold the the foothold they're dying off it's going to be up to people like me people like you people had this event here at turning point i do think charlie would have been a president yeah potentially in 10 to 15 years if he wanted to he could have done it he had enough cloud um yeah donors he had everything he could have taken any of those republicans on the stage and annihilated with his debate experience yeah yeah he would have annihilated them um i think he was a real person i think he was very unique um yeah i mean dude it's crazy to me that i mean we're here at this event there's tons of people that probably don't like charlie on certain things but people still respect him whatever you have to say about him everyone respected him even even um can't disrespected him i think the only person that had real beef with him was was was was Nick and that was because of personal reasons i think because i think charlie made a mistake i think

what happened you ever seen the movie the incredible yeah do you remember how the the kid that looked up to mr. incredible but his name was buddy yeah yeah he like he wanted to help mr. incredible and mr. incredible dismissed him yep and then he became his enemy when he got older and like that's a good analogy i think that's what charlie did to Nick i think over time they would have made up i think they could have been friends i think i think charlie could have used him for turning and i really think if you go listen to nick dude he looked up to all this stuff he looked up to back back in the day he looked up to charlie 100% i think charlie at that time's mentality was i want to be the number one guy i want to be that guy so anyone who's a threat to that i'm not going to pay attention to that much attention to you but also i think nick probably sets some things that pissed him off easily and i think i do think nick was set on hey i'm gonna take out charlie i'm going to be the person who's going to be the next person so i understand why charlie grew to hate him a lot and dislike him but i also think it was a fatal mistake i always think it's better

to be close to your enemies then to just listen keep your enemies close to you because if you dismiss them eventually they're gonna grow and they're gonna take you out yep i think it could have been fixed with the conversation yeah i think if those two sat in a room together for three hours yeah they could have squashed it 100% but dude this was great where kind of people find you uh yeah they can find me on instagram my uh username is uh allen hid so uh at symbol and then a-l-a-n-h-i-d perfect coming on bro i appreciate you yeah thank you guys please i hope you guys are enjoying the show please don't forget to like and subscribe it helps the show a lot with the algorithm thank you

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