The Montauk Project (Repost)

0:00Welcome to Conspiracy, the show. With your hosts, Adam Todd Brown, and Conor McSpatan. Hey everybody, welcome to Conspiracy, the show. I'm Adam Todd Brown. I'm Conor McSpatan. We are your God damn hosts. Steering you through the storm. Yeah, that depending on your interpretation of the storm. If you're one of those QAnon types, maybe you think we are literally. Oh yeah, what is the storm? What do they think that what's that storm code word for in QAnon land? It's this operation that's supposed to happen where a bunch of people on the left are going to get rounded up for being operatives of Russia and pedophiles and just international criminals.

1:06Gotcha. It's like order 66 since Star Wars, but for like right liberals. But it and it's Donald Trump working in tandem with the Mueller probe. And like that's the real aim. Some of the best shit on the internet is like just Facebook accounts with people like, yeah, my life, my wife left because of Q. But I mean that that's not going to stop me from getting to the truth. All right. There's all I have. It's all I need. People that have thrown their lives away, but just believing way too hard in this world. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's the there's an aspect of that called 10 days of darkness where I don't know what it's exactly supposed to be. But some sort of silence that happens and then all these arrests. And when the government shutdown started, people were like, is this it? Is it the storm? And it's been 30 days now. So well, I mean, it's a slow moving cold front, but it's coming. It's in dog days. Yeah. That wouldn't I don't know if that math would work. It doesn't matter. No, it doesn't. Hey, what are we? Mon talking about today.

2:10Yeah. The nicely I'm intimidated even right. Yeah. I know pulling out pulling out the my closer. That's like when you're doing class projects and the kid before you crush it so hard, you're like, I kind of just phone in this whole thing about talking to what if they had a bicycle shop together, fuck. That was me every time because I went to a school where kids were just starting to get computers. So there would always be that one fuck stick who had a printer and his shit looked all professional. Yeah, with this fucking Peggy Hill Macintosh back at home. Yeah. Fuck that kid. That's when I officially dropped out of community college to become a stand-up comedian. I had a geology of the solar system class and we had to do a presentation. And we really just my group just didn't fucking do it. So this guy just says, all right, I know it's going to make this presentation good. And these are just dumb community college guys two and three. And he just goes, presentation background music. I've got my phone in this Bluetooth speaker. So we'll play it underneath us the whole time to make it more compelling.

3:10And I said, that's the best we got. You do it. And then I improvised this whole story about going to the launch pad and going, you know, and we ended up getting like an A plus. And I'm like, why am I not being with charlatanizing on a more organized professional level? This is not the place for me. I mean, I pulled it off, but then wasting my talents here. That I on the last one of the daily podcast episodes last week. I told a similar story about how like the first time I knew I could write and that I could maybe just write for a living. I was in eighth grade and I had to do a book report about Martin Luther King, Jr. And I did not read the book. But I was like, I'm in eighth grade. I know enough about Martin Luther King, Jr. that I can write 500 words about it. And this teacher's not going to go back and read the book and make sure I'm not just making this shit up. No. And I got an A on that. Oh, yeah. She's like, oh, he's just pulling out of details. No one else even gotten you're like, because I made those up. You stupid bitch. I do like that. Yeah, it was pretty great. So where this week is kind of a continuation of last week. Last week we talked about the Phoenix project and the Philadelphia experiment, especially.

4:20Yeah. And the all off shoots of Project Rainbow and we're government like battleship naval invisibility technology. Yeah. And the alleged phasing in and out of the universe, the crazy side effects, the teleportation, the crew members catching on fire for 18 hours. 18 days. 18 days. Oh, yeah. I forgot silly me. Yeah. No, no ability to put the fire out. What a weird amount of time. If you were like, it really is. Really? You were like three days or six months. I'd be okay. But I mean, just 18 days. Yeah. A firing fire. 18 days of fire. Yeah. Coming soon from the people who brought you QAnon. Yeah. 18 days of fire. The new Adam Sandler conspiracy vehicle gets a DUI and a UFO. I'd watch that shit. That's an eight crazy nights is actually pretty good movie. Yeah, it is. So when we left off the Phoenix project in Project Rainbow, which was the project behind the Philadelphia experiment, they had teamed up to try and figure out why the Philadelphia experiment went so wrong. Yeah.

5:26And to give people who are listening for free, we love you anyway. Just some background if you didn't hear the last episode, which you fucking better not have if you're not paying. Yeah, you better not be pirating. Yeah. If you did tell us where home taping is killing the record industry. Okay. Home fucking is killing the porn industry. That's a good bumper sticker. We got to go back in time and get in on that dollar. That's what I'll do to do if I get the Montauk project. I'm like, take me back where Milwaukee 1978. I've got a thousand dollars to make. It's a lot of money in 70. Oh, yeah. Dude, I could buy myself a whole fucking big as boat of a car. You know what a page of rent. Yeah, but probably could have, you know, gotten, you know, some sort of leisure suits. I guess those were huge back then for good reason. They look good as shit. So that this project they had figured out allegedly by 1967 what went wrong with the Philadelphia experiment and how to fix it. And they go to Congress because I should run through a little bit of that.

6:31The Philadelphia experiment they were trying to make a ship invisible USS Eldridge and allegedly they made it invisible, but it also teleported to Virginia for a while. Came back. There were dudes embedded in the walls. Yeah. Big fiasco. And what's like the most unbelievable part is that it would just teleport to another body of water somewhere. Like it would like if it really just teleported randomly, it probably phase you into a black hole somewhere, you know, downtown L.A. Oh, yeah. How fucking like if you just like watchman's battleship drops, that would be pretty fucking exciting. Yeah. So they figure all of these glitches out allegedly and go to Congress. And they're like, hey, we figured it out. Let's let's keep working on this. And Congress knowing what happened with the Philadelphia experiment said no, they refused to fund it any further. Yeah. So the people who had done all this work coming up with basically a device that can control weather and moods at the same time. Yeah.

7:32That was the culmination of all this. The government tells them no shuts them down as the government does. I was about to say none of this sounds like anything that would happen in this situation. Like, you know, the black budget researcher trying to refine his dangerous idea. Congress going, whoa, sounds a little bit too gnarly for our blood. Very, very dubious. Right. Very, very dubious. And so that's what leads us to the Montauk project. Yes. Which is a conspiracy theory that alleges there were a series of secret US government projects conducted at camp hero or Montauk Air Force station on Montauk Long Island. Most unbelievable part is any sort of technology in Long Island. Yeah. That part is crazy. A little bit out there because I feel like they don't get any further than a zoltar from big machine. Yeah. That's there like that's their God. At least it's not like statin island. That would be weirder. That would be weirder. And the purpose was to develop psychological warfare techniques and research involving time travel. Montauk is the basis allegedly for the Netflix series Stranger Things. Yeah. And I have not seen the working title was Montauk. If they had kept it as Montauk, I might have watched it.

8:50I thought Montauk was at your making a AM radio show. We'll come back to Montauk. They'll be on this show. I would listen to Montauk. Yeah. Montauk radio. That would be a pretty good name for a conspiracy podcast. There probably a few more scrolls down from us on the uprocks best conspiracy podcast article right now. Which we did not read except past the first except which hasn't adorable picture of Connor. Yeah. My dog went. Yeah. That picture. When I had my weird mohawk. Yeah. It's good. Appropriately there is a fan sitting next to you trying to build a computer. I remember that while I help and do nothing. Yeah. I do. We've been coordinated by the kings. Everybody. So the story of the Montauk project. And this is this is what makes it so suspicious. I kind of mentioned this last time is a lot of the things alleged to be happening or that did happen on Montauk in Long Island.

9:50It comes from the Montauk project book series by Preston Nichols. And Nichols claims to have recovered repressed memories of his involvement in experiments at Montauk and claims he is periodically abducted to continue his participation against as well. So a media problem the publisher of these books which is sky books USA dot com sounds legit their tagline where science fiction meets reality. Oh, okay. All right. I like that. Yeah. This is the sources are repressed memories. So you open up the index and it's just like page 86 the interdimensional cthulhu that came from the nightmare I had after I ate all that mustard before bed. Yeah, not the most reliable source. I don't I feel like the Philadelphia experiment in general. There's a lot of I don't believe most of it. You know, it's cool. I think it just stuck because it's so cool sound like all the all the shit that happens is so cool. We're like just a fun one. We don't need any sources.

10:53And it sounds great. The name the Philadelphia experiment. It's just vague work. It'd be anything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What is what are they doing in Philly? Are they putting lays potato chips and the cheese sticks? I got to know. I don't know if I saw that movie when I was a kid, probably not. I just remember because it came out in 84. I would. Yeah, you would. Right. So I remember hearing it. And I've always been familiar with the name the Philadelphia experiment. No, I knew. Not about Montauk. I didn't really know about the the precursors to it. You know what I first heard of Montauk. I was like that kid at the mall with the green day shirt. It couldn't sing a Ramon song. You know, I wasn't I didn't have a fully balanced conspiracy diet as a young man. You know, I'm not going to be a man. I'm not going to be a man. I'm not going to be a man. I'm not going to be a man. I'm not going to be a man. I'm not going to be a man. I'm not going to be a man. I'm not going to be a man. I'm not going to be a man. I'm not going to be a man. I'm not going to be a man. I'm not going to be a man. I'm not going to be a man. Oh, no, I first heard of Montauk was the what's the gym carry, eternal sunshine of the spot, with me? Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. What a great movie. Oh, yeah. One of my favorite movies, but they talk about Montauk in a very different way. It's rule. It's, yeah. Yes, that's that one scene. That was also a very good jailed cry to a mix tape where he wraps over the score. Oh, really? Yeah, that those is first that project is very, it's haunting. I want to hear someone to be really good at something and really insane.

12:04Isn't this stuff in the Montauk project book series as yeah, maybe it's real. Maybe it's not. You decide. They've never officially said the books are fact or fiction sidebar. Are you familiar with the Found Footage Movie UFO abduction? I'm not. It is. It's probably the first Found Footage movie. It came out in the late 80s. Okay. And it is just like a video like 80s video camera footage of a girl's birthday party. And then oh god. And then they start seeing like lights flashing out in the woods. And then the last scene aliens walk in. Yeah. And one of the conspiracy theories around the time this came out was that it wasn't. It was actual found footage where it was footage of an actual UFO abduction. Yeah. And when it got posted to the internet, the government was like, no, it's a movie. Yeah. It's a movie.

13:04Or you're going to release it as a movie. Crazy movie. And that's like that a cannibalism movie that was so real looking. The people got arrested and they're like, no, we're just we just got good at special effects. You asked all of the help. Yeah, cannibal holocaust I think. Yeah, I have not I'm way too squeamish. Yeah. I've never seen it. UFO abduction. You could watch, but I don't know why you would. It's a terrible movie. Yeah, it's very boring. Yeah, it's very boring. I'll stick with my Elvis getting into a golf cart from far away clips. Thank you very much. So yeah, this is kind of along the same lines as UFO abduction where it's a thing that has been presented as not real, but people are still like, yeah, maybe it is. Yeah. So the book claims that the Montauk project is an extension of the Philadelphia experiment which we talked about on the last episode. And that's how these two things tie together. Eventually they come together as project Phoenix 2. We talked about project Phoenix a lot on the Philadelphia experiment episode.

14:07And basically when project Phoenix went to Congress to get funding and Congress said no, the next move was to kind of bypass Congress and go directly to the military. Yeah. And say, hey, you got that prescription pad. And the military was all for it because this was what? Yeah, can you believe it? No way. And they bypass Congress. They pitch the military officials directly. And the military agrees to set project Phoenix up in a secluded area to conduct the research and to provide the equipment and personnel needed to keep operating in the location they settled on, Montauk Air Force Base, located within Fort Hero on Montauk Point Long Island. It was isolated. It was out of use at the time. And it was fitted with a sage radar system, which the radio signals, I'm sure everyone already knows this, the radio signals required to get inside the human consciousness operate

15:10on the 425 to 450 megahertz range. And so does the sage radar. So that's the defrost chicken setting on the microwave? Exactly. It's the pizza button. Yeah, that's what I call the FET CLIT. And what this meant is because the sage radar was already there but was an obsolete piece of military equipment, they could use it. No one would wonder why. Yeah, it was like if someone was like, you're going to use this typewriter and they're like, no, I don't give a shit. And you're like, ah, it's actually for demons. And so they basically, as the story goes, convert the sage radar into a big radio sond, which we talked about last episode also, which is a device that is alleged to be able to send good and bad organ energy to control weather and control moves. So test the coil for magic organ energy. Right. So they get all this setup on Montauk and the project takes on a new name Phoenix 2, which

16:13sure, that's a good sequel name. Yeah, why not? Pretty by the book. I mean, they did. They did. They did. So they were some budget cuts and that went to the naming guy. Yeah. The way they got the money is one of the craziest allegations in this story. Basically, it's alleged that at one point during World War 2, we were transporting Nazi gold that we had taken by train through France. And someone blew up that train, killed 51 American servicemen and made off with that gold. And it's like that Northern California armored truck robbery that the Nazis got all that funding from. I don't know if I've ever heard of that. Oh, yeah. There was like some big armored truck robbery by some white power organization in North Cal, like back in like the 90s. Oh, yeah. And then they forget all the details, but they just that basically like funded the white power underground gang network because they had, you know, $54 million liquid capital or whatever. Yeah. People always, I think people tend to discount crime when it comes into how certain entities

17:16make money. And the thing the other day about North Korea, they have stolen something like $570 million in cryptocurrency over the past five years. Oh, yeah. They just got like a little boiler room full of people trying to find a band, band into Ethereum wallets and just, you know, a regular bunch of it in. They just tricked a guy in Chile into basically giving them access to that entire country's ATM network because he thought he was doing a job interview. And they were like, download the software on your computer. That's how we send you the application. It was literally called application pdf.exe. And he was like, all right. And it was malware that just gave them access to the entire computer. That final name is like a wily coyote tunnel painted on to a rock. What do you think was going to happen? Nothing to see here. Flowers dot, you know, and on his computer, his work computer, no less. Of course. Well, you got it. You take that to an internet cafe. Yeah. Also, you're applying for jobs on the job. That's not exactly great.

18:18So yeah, one of the allegations is that we're the ones who blew up that train because we wanted that gold, but we couldn't just take it. No, because it's supposed to, you know, there's channels for our house distributed through it or pull or whatever. So we wanted it. So we blew up the train and we took the gold. Yeah. It seems pretty pretty easy. And that Nazi gold is what funded project Montauk. Wow. That's what brought in all that negative organ energy. I got to figure what I don't like about this theory is that means we held on to that Nazi gold for like 20 years. Oh, yeah. We're just like we're saving this for when we really need some fucking secret money, you know, and I yeah, I don't think the government works that way. I feel like we would have spent that shit almost right away. Oh, I'm thinking of my new great conspiracy to the show character. Hi, this is he'll house or with Nazi goals. So you burn people. How does that work? So yeah, this, that's one of the allegations. And then also the crop family, which is a German family that made munitions and weapons

19:22during World War II. They're still in business making all sorts of shit now. What's this company again? Crump. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crump. Which I thought made coffee, but that's obviously a different. Well, it's really so. Like during World War II, like IBM made machine guns, you know, it's like there's a bunch of weird shit like that. And after the Nazi gold money ran out, it's allegedly the crop family that kept this going because this starts project Montauk starts in 1969. The crop families, the one they all look like Eddie Murphy. Yeah, meet the crops. And it ends in 1983 with a crazy, crazy experiment that rips a whole in time. Yeah, we're even the remember when that happened. Of course, check him. No, it's came. Yes. Yes. Double Cops one and two. There was. So let's talk about some of the experiments they allegedly ran. First they brought in various military and civilian personnel to work on the project.

20:23A lot of them familiar with the sage radar system. Yeah, the outdated technology uses the base for the the whole Oregon blasting. Exactly. And early in the project, it was noted that the general mood on the base would change according to the frequency and pulse duration of the radar system. They were cycling. And I've in reading through this, I was like, how did they test that? Yeah, like everyone like they had those happy face like graphs. Like circle, which one are you feeling today? Did someone just go through the crowd and like try and make conversation and everyone's like shut up. Yeah, where they did they look at the Spotify numbers and see a lot of streams for the Smiths. Fucking love the Smiths. Oh, me too, man. Do like, yeah, seems as though there's quite a bit of joy division going on around here. What's everyone alright? Should we have a meeting? So this prompts them to start experimenting with what frequencies would bring out what responses? Of course, yeah. People. And what they would do is they would put people in a room and they would direct the

21:26sage radar at that room. And by altering the frequency and pulse of the radar, they could make a person laugh, cry, angry or sleepy. And then the mood of the general base would also change in accordance with some of the background, right? The radiation. That's funny. Those are the four, those are the four main things you're trying to do to the enemy. Yeah, yeah, trying to make them on their period. Make them cry. Yeah, make them cry. Yeah, that's kind of interesting that they could not dial it in that specifically. And then like, can you, can we make it so it reactivates is gambling problem? Like how fondly can we tone it in? And what do you do when you have a whole team of the enemy crying? You can't like run in and start arresting them because you're going to run in the direction of that beam also and you're going to start crying. Yeah, you'd have to get some sort of hazmat suit and bayonet them, you know, so you didn't accidentally catch bitchitis. Get in a Faraday cage. Yes, you go, oh wow, Faraday cage. There's a call back. That's for the conspiracy BDSM people.

22:28So yeah, this all sounds fake to me. Oh, yeah, nothing about it. It seems super believable. I mean, I could believe that they thought they could do this because they would just run with stupid ideas and throw money at them, you know, right? Like I would buy that they maybe they thought they could like, well, if we get it in maybe 436 megahertz is the one that makes you shit your pants and miss your dad, you know? Like, yeah, I could, that I could see, but the fact like they're actually doing it and pulling out of my arm. Yeah, and this like I used to always say about MK Ultra, like, well, why did they keep going if it wasn't working? And then on last episode I talked about budgets and how sometimes you just spend the money so you get it again next year. Oh, sure. And it's like, if you got a Kush gig, just given people LSD and laughing at him, I mean, you probably grow to love that job. And it's way more comforting for me to think that the government was just spinning its wheels that whole time. Then actually hitting like fucking like, like, resurchable pay dirt with any of these projects. Yeah. That's more comforting to go like, oh, they're just wasting all of this fucking blood

23:29money they got from the the various concurrent wars, right? As opposed to actually learning how to, you know, make people sad with the laser. But at least Manchurian candidates aren't real. Yes, exactly. But they are. Mm-hmm. So whatever the case, the next step was to try and use the sage to control thoughts. And they were allegedly able to do this as well. But there's not a ton of details on exactly how they did that. There's no, there's no like, there's no, we miss filed these papers and then they showed up here and they've, they've adapted that to cut them in this. It's a lot of just, this is what they say it was and who said it? I don't know. The first guy with the fucking angel fire website kind of, you know, it's all passed down from the angel fire toms. And maybe it's addressed in the Montauk project book series, but there's like 10 of those books. Yeah. And it's like who read all those? If you think it's like animals for guys that don't bathe. If you think we have enough of a following for me to put the time in to read 10 books to research one episode. Oh no.

24:29This ain't Dan Carlin. Yeah. This is Wendy's. We're going to have to be putting up like fucking Mark Maren numbers before I'm doing that. Yeah. I've been read 10 books in the last five years. So I mean, you tell me what's going to happen there. I haven't, I didn't realize I was signed up for Audible. Oh, so you got 500 credits you haven't used? I had six credits and they emailed me today and we're like, you can't keep that many credits at once, which why? Yeah. It's sort of like anti like I'm hoarding them for the apocalypse. Yeah, that's like those weird deflation monetary techniques they use where it was like the older the money your money is the less it's worth to try to stimulate the economy. Like back in like, you know, like fucking like the 1800s or something. I think England did that where they're trying to get like things moving up. Yeah, it's very strange. Yeah. Cause I've had the same. I just downloaded a bunch of shit. I've had the same fucking email with Audible and I'm like, why? I bought it. You fuck. I bought it. Stop. So it's worth noting that bathing people in microwave radiation is super dangerous, which is something that anyone, whatever we need more power anyone listening to this would be

25:35like, no, they would have just been given people cancer and all those people would be dead by now. What the way this book series addresses this is that some test subjects were baked. Yeah. Like not baked like I am right now, but like from the inside out by radio waves. And that's called burning radiation. But what they found is that the back of this radar emitted non-burning radiation, but it also worked in the exact same way and that you could use it to control thoughts. So that's convenient. This is literally the explanation they have is a, well, what if we put the batteries in backwards and now it's a shrink ray? You know, like, yeah, it's like spongebob, Deus X Machina sort of reasoning. Turn it around, which even then turning it around, why are beams going? Why is it coming up the ass of it? Nothing on the back that should be shooting beams. There's an emitter on the front and maybe I mean, right through reflection, it would bounce off a surface and go behind it eventually. It's, you know, that's the nature of light and electricity and everything else, but why

26:36would it do that? It's a very suspect detail that I feel like someone added later on down the line. Yeah. When we learned more about how radiation works and someone was just like, no, that would kill everybody. Oh, okay, I got it. Yeah, just like I heard it around every time. Well, actually the Bible predicted global warming because it mentions fire here and it's like, blah, blah, or are you just trying to make it seem better? Right. So eventually this testing, it's alleged, progressed to trying to control and influence large groups all at once, which army units were brought in for R&R, which I think means rest and relax ashton. Yeah. So I believe so. And they became test subjects because who wouldn't want to go hang out on Montauk Point in all of them? I know. I mean, maybe they have nice beaches. I don't know. I mean, that's honestly probably still one of the better getaway spots in Long Island. Oh, for sure. At least there's stuff to do like be burned inside. They also tested on people in New Jersey, New York, and Connecticut.

27:37So that's fine. Yeah, get some of those wasps. Progress. You know, those New Jersey wasps. Those were written that allegedly allowed for everything from creating simple mood swings to increasing crime rates, inciting violence, and causing mass panics. And are there no incidents that they can point to? Yeah, they're not going to be like, yo, the LA riots. That was us, you know, I could take credit for something. But like, you take a page out of ISIS's book here, CIA. And I like, that seems like an easy thing to say. Like, yeah, I'm sure there have been mass panics that are in the news. They could just tie that, but you don't get any of that with this. And they're just like, it works. And Lord knows, I mean, the population of New Jersey isn't emotional and quick to act without thinking there's so many that you could have any number of demolition derby shootings could have been attributed to Monta. Springsteen album out that day. People are going to be fucking excited in New Jersey. Baby, I was born to be radiated.

28:37So with that, once they figured out how to control crowds, they move on to making it more precise. And that's when the Montauk chair becomes a thing. Yeah. This is what I read about. This was like the shit that fucking a young Conor McBadden was into. It's, it's basically a guy sitting in a chair that is also a device of some sort. Yep. And if he focuses hard enough, he can see what's happening at a remote location or possibly enter the consciousness of a person at another location and control their thoughts and movements. It's the being John Melkovich chair, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And then the version I read, which he good was on like a geosidysangel fire page was about how he could just make whatever was in his imagination real. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's sitting in the chair? Yeah. That, that comes up also. It's basically the, what, what people say is the ITT worldwide communications corporation owned by the crop family was able to turn this previous device into a mind reading and

29:42mind control device. Well, they did it straight on. They did it backwards when you go sideways. It reads minds. Explode your head if they point it directly at it. And then the other side was is you get to be the Ben 10 kid and pick what alien you want to fight as. And a, a cray one super computer. I didn't even know they were using that phrase back then. Yeah. Turn that information into something a person could understand. It would read an electromagnetic field and turn that into something a person could read it would translate it. Right. Yeah. And some of the technology used to build this of course provided by aliens were yet where else are you going to get it? Right. No longer anti-Semitic aliens. No, these are, these are good. You know, we gave them all that Nazi gold. Globalist aliens. They want to vote the gillong. Uh, specifically aliens from the star system serious, which is the same star system that beams new indie rock to my car radio, which I really appreciate. Yeah. That's the star system where Howard Stern makes all the hot four titty women just sit on

30:44Sibian machines and zero gravity. And yeah, this device was called the Montauk chair. A psychically active person would be placed in the chair and it would allow them to beam their thoughts to a remote location. Like ventriloquism of the brain. Right. Yeah. And some sort of mega mind Jeff Dunham. And these were allegedly people who had undergone rigorous training through the CIA to become, to reach an altered form of consciousness. Yeah, to steal their, their, their personality against the, the terrors of radiation or amplification. Right. You know, so a normal person couldn't just plop down in the Montauk chair and start projecting their thoughts out to other people. I'd be too, don't even try it. I'd be too weak because the things that I would be imagining would be like, what if a bald guy was eating your pussy and you rubbed his bald spot and the magic eight ball thing showed up and said try again later. And that would appear and then I'd go insane because of how funny I thought it was. And I'd be like, now we need some more, we need men made of stern or stuffed in this

31:47mixed bad and kid. So this, uh, this device allegedly focused on the primitive mind as opposed to the conscious mind. It suppressed the conscious mind, made the primitive mind more active. The primitive mind is highly suggestible, very controllable, intense to act by focusing all its power on a subject, allowing for much greater displays of power than the conscious mind. Literally, that's how the secret works. Yeah. Is that just, you know, you took the pain, man, great brain, your subconscious and your subconscious just brings all that shit to you. Yeah. And it's like, I guess that's the part of the brain that you can manipulate is just a hungry, horny, sleepy, you know, corridor. That's not dealing with, you know, the esoteric nature of life and death and all the stuff that we have the burden of grappling with is, you know, more evolved, like the forms of intelligence. Yeah. But I mean, but how do you fucking, how do you just like put that, how do you make a USB cable that goes in there and makes monsters real? Like that's where you'd live. Right. Right.

32:47Elon Musk is working on it. I hope so. I mean, I want to do something fun in that super tunnel. So after realizing the Montauk chair worked, at least in terms of beaming thoughts to other places, researchers move on to a new goal. They want to see if a person can create a solid object out of thin air using only their thoughts. And I did not put the guy's name in the notes. Let me go find it. Yeah. Because that's when you, you can just like imagine something and just like bewitched it wiggle your nose into existence, which is like, I guess with the most outlandish thing, just the operating physical matter with your thoughts through some sort of 1980s radio dish. You know, it's yeah, it seems like, like hacking into, you know, the federal reserve with a Sega Genesis. It seems impossible, you know, just on site. Duncan Cameron is the, the name of the guy who allegedly was psychically active and did most of the Montauk experiments from the Montauk chair.

33:51There's the Mr. Wolf that called in when they needed to go out the big brain. Right. You know, to come clean up the experiment or the, you know, the science or whatever. And one of the things he has alleged to have been able to do was to create objects just by thinking hard enough. And they talk about like buildings being created and it's like, well, take a pic. It's not like the 70s by now. Snap a pic. We had Phil, we had all this shit, you know, you should be able to document all of these things. There should be a bunch of pictures of guys with short sleeve white shirts and black ties with glasses and flat tops going, oh, shit, looks like we just became God. This is problematic. Everyone's smoking. Yeah. That's the main way to let people know a workplace is a 70s workplace. Everyone's smoking. Yeah. It's a set designer, Adam Todd Brown here. No, that is always the best is when you're like, man, we were so good, we could figure out how to split an atom, but we didn't know that inhaling fucking fire all day would be bad. I'm old enough to have worked at a few places where you could smoke at your desk.

34:53Oh, wow, dude. I had a telemarketing job that was just in the perfect smoking job in the back of a room of a like in the back room of a storefront. Yeah, you're like, you're next to crates oranges, you know, people fucking smoking like crazy. It was such a nightmare. Oh, man, that sounds awesome. Just making calls. Doing a line every day. That's your sales bell every time you actually move. Yeah. So fucking. So yeah, this guy was apparently able to create objects out of thin air. There was also the seeing eye experiment in which a subject was given a lock of hair or other object belonging to another person. And if they concentrated hard enough, they'd be able to see and hear everything that person could see in here, no matter where that person was. Yeah. So you can kind of hack the webcam Zuckerberg style of their brain. Right. And so naturally the next step is going to be time travel. Of course. Yeah. Where else do you go? Once you're sending thoughts across the dimensions, you're going to try and surf that

35:56wave and go fucking make some sports gambling money. Yeah. Whatever. You know, I love that there's your parents to fuck. How about I love that recently there's been a debate breaking out online about the idea of going back in time and killing baby Hitler? Oh, yeah, because Ben Shapiro made some sort of pro life thing about it. And that's a baby Hitler trending. And I'm like, we got nothing better to talk about. Yeah, which I do get it because I don't I'd maybe kill like teen Hitler. Yeah, but baby Hitler would be a little that be like, how would you do it? Like you have to think about all the fucking I don't know big rock, I guess. It's gonna just be a baby there in front of you. Yeah. Shot put him. Maybe maybe a steal him and adopt him and try to raise him good. Yeah, bring him back. Yeah, get him in art school. Enroll him in that fucking thing where you just have to draw a tipy the turtle. They'll take anybody. Yeah, you just you just oh, yeah, yeah, they're fucking a I did the Mori Povich commercial art college. Yeah, if you can trace this tree, then you can be Picasso. Just I actually I sent one of those in once like no, my 20s in this traveling salesman showed up.

37:02He had to be like 70 years old. Oh, sad. And was really like I almost did it because you I assume you do learn some decent stuff about drawing. I'm sure you did. I'm sure you know, it was like $150 a month and I did not have that. No, yeah, this was like late 90s. I also sent one in when I was eight. Oh, yeah. And they were like, you're eight. Yeah, but like, keep it up sluggish. They send you that note that's supposed to go in the back of your book about all your success later on or whatever. Because they would when he sent those in, they would actually give you notes and send it back to you. Oh, yeah, yeah. You're eight. You can't enroll, but also like you're shading here was off. Yeah. It's like, fuck you or mate. Hey, remember where the lights coming from coming out of my ass. I'm fucking, I don't even know fractions yet, Dick. So with the Montauk chair, they eventually turn it into a time travel device. Yeah. As the story goes. Sure. And subjects were able to open portals to any point in history just by concentrating on the date they wanted to go to. Which again, if that's your like fucking GPS is just thinking really hard about March 7th, 1955, that seems improbable.

38:09Right. And with that, the project becomes Phoenix three. What? I think they push the franchise one too far, fun being honest. Yeah, Bill and Ted's excellent teleportation adventure. For sure. And from 1981 to 1983, the project focuses solely on exploring time itself. Yeah, a lot of meat on the bone there. That's, you could probably cover all the time in two years. Researchers kidnapped large numbers of homeless people as test subjects. Now this part I believe. Yeah, that is right out of the playbook. And if the next sentence was, that's why the institutionalization happened because we needed this crop of homeless people that we could focus on this project. Hey, Ray, I would say yes. I would say yes. I would 100% agree that that's probably right now. Can you cook the books a little bit on human suffering so we can make a space chair? Well, okay. I'm Ronald Reagan and I'm in hell and I'm here to tell you about bacon and crack.

39:09Nothing tastes better than bacon. So they research the researchers kidnapped all these people and just send them through time travel ports. Imagine being homeless and then all of a sudden you're fucking Cleopatra. It has a cemetery at your throat and where did you get these garments you're wearing and these good but banana. Patel, you can't even talk to anyone in his time. But how many times have we read stories about a homeless dude who gets arrested and police are like, he said he was here from the year 2004. I know. It makes you think like, are they where we just mon talking them all over the place? Canaries in the coal mine of fucking time. If they returned, they were to report on what they saw. Most of them did not return. Oh, no way. So you're just stuck in a different time as a homeless person possibly in a time where they're like, what's a homeless person? Now you have to go to the only time it's worse to be a homeless person in the past. Second worst place is right now. Third worst place fucking of Magna Carta, England.

40:12It's also claimed that large numbers of children all males between the age of 10 and 16 and all with stereotypical Aryan traits were sent to the year 6037 AD to investigate a ruined city and more specifically a horse statue that was there that's got to be dendor. Got to be. There's no other play that has to be that's like for the probably one of the biggest statues of a horse in the world for sure. Right. And how comforting is that that it's not to like 6,000 that we have to go fucking look into that? Yeah, yeah. I mean like the idea that we still if the if the cities are crumbling at 4,000 years, that's a pretty good run for us. Yeah, we did all right. Yeah. But that's got yeah, that's got to be Denver. That's got to be war horse. Good for you war horse. Still standing in 6037. Oh, absolutely. Why didn't that thing collapse? Yeah, I mean, fucking more talking superior conspiracy engineering. So let's talk about the end of the Montauk project. It finally ended August 12, 1983.

41:13When Yoko came around, which you'll note is August 12 is the date that the original Philadelphia experiment happened in 1943. Yeah. So they wanted it. They really they're into just like clean 40 year anniversaries. Right. Like the Sergeant Peppery issue 20 years ago today. Oh, wow. Look at that. And on that date, a portal was opened that connected Montauk base with the USS Eldridge 40 years in the past. During the original Philadelphia experiment. Sure. And for some reason, it's at this point that people working on the project became uncomfortable with its goals and decided to throw a wrench in the gears. I can't believe this. This story is about to get crazier. Oh, yeah, it's almost done. We've covered so much crazy shit. And it's just about to get it. We've already reached Ender's game five. Even more homophobic edition, you know, but now it's like, what where do we go? How do you escalate? But they do it.

42:14So when this wormhole opens to the original Philadelphia experiment, everyone decides someone on the base decides this is too much. We have to shut it down. And the way they do that is to whisper some unknown phrase into the ear of Duncan Cameron, who is the one who had opened this portal. And this code phrase caused Cameron to release a monster from his subconscious. Yep. The creature named the beast from the id materialized as a large hairy monster that smashed its way around the base and ate everything in its path. Now, if you can imagine 12 year old me reading this and going, it has to be true. And at this point, project members start cutting cables and conduits in an attempt to sever power to the base and shut down the project. I remember sending this exact story to like this girl I liked that I was emailing with and she's like, what are you doing with the sound?

43:14I was like, I've been reading about this, you know, no idea that that's not what you sent to a girl you like. And so once they're able to shut everything down, apparently the monster disappears. I guess that's it. It's it goes back to the land of id. Sure. And a year later, a team of black burais, which that just sounds ominous. Oh, yeah. We know the green burais are the ones we always think of as the good guys. What do the black burais do? I mean, yeah, the secret shit like this, feel like fucking, you know, or section 31 in Star Trek. They just they do all the sketchy shit. Right. And they were sent into the Montauk base with orders to shoot anything that moved after that they clear after they cleared the base. No, unfortunately, this was after the Furby craze and it led to a lot of accidental deaths. A second team moved in to remove any equipment deemed too sensitive to abandon. The underground chambers were sealed and eventually filled with cement. Base was abandoned and donated to the state of New York as a park.

44:14Yeah. And I remember the website that I was reading back in the days about this guy was like, I went hiking there and I wish I had my camera. I put I swear to God, three black helicopters start hovering right above me and I start running away. I was like, whoa, why wouldn't you take your camera? Yeah, I was like, man, I wish that guy had his camera because that's definitely real. So yeah, this is I feel like most of the information out of the last two episodes is mostly made up. It feels that way. It feels dubious to even call it information. Most of the it's fan fiction. This is government fan fiction. Right. But it's for it's for a fucking cool. That's like that would be cool. Yeah, I mean, we know the Montauk base is real. It's out there. Yeah, but if that is this what I mean, did they try to do it? Like I like the most I would believe is that they tried to do this. Like some dumb shit thought they could do this. Yeah, and I wouldn't doubt that we have some of our radar dodging technology that we have now out of experiments like this.

45:15But oh, yeah, there's all kinds of stuff with that that's all very real. Yeah, but the time travel thing, the Montauk chair, it just all sounds a little crazy. Yeah, just bringing things into being the, yeah, I mean, it's just stuff that I like, I don't think you can do that with a, you know, a computer as powerful as, you know, a fucking dreamcast. I think you got to have something a little bit stronger. Like I just don't think like, you know, there's certain things where it's like, oh, we're definitely way further along, but it's like, if you could do this back then, some guy with a Raspberry Pi in an X-beard would have figured it out now, you know. We'd have a version of it. For sure. Maybe that's what the 3D printer is. Yeah, you'd be able to bit torrent some sort of teleportation mod for your steam accounts or something. What if every 3D printer is connected to some fucking dude sitting in a Montauk chair who's just like, no, just shitting out a little fucking Tomagotchi trinkets. Fucking print out Homer Simpson statues and shit. He just farts and then some guys are going and he's like, okay, I guess that's where it comes from. So that's the Montauk project in the Philadelphia experiment.

46:19That's our episode. Yeah, it's a fun one. Yeah, I like the nice, well, I like the ones that aren't real, so you don't have to feel too terrified. Yeah, it doesn't make me afraid to walk outside. Yeah, this is gonna make me afraid of dust reading my mind like some of our other shows. Yeah, so this is a free episode. Don't forget you can get bonus episodes on patreon.com slash on pops. Just $5 a month to get bonus episodes of this. And I believe that gives you access to about 95 hours a day of shows. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's the best deal on Patreon, I would say. We crank it out. Yeah, that's for God damn sure. And come to the unpopped live stand-up show every last Saturday of the month at Hollywood Hotel. We haven't booked the February show yet, but we will. Yeah, get off our deck. Yeah, we got fucking, we got chairs to investigate. Yeah, Connor, where do you have to plug? Oh, man, if you want to see me coming up on the road, February 6th, the last and limited in Sacramento, by the way, take its role. These shows on my website at conmericsband.com and met some cool mean blows on pops listeners.

47:23Last time I was up there and I was bringing people presents, if they come, come see me or whatever, I give them little goodies. So that's sweetens the deal. And I do like to meet people, it's fun. So I'll be there. I'll be at the county pass in San Diego, the eighth and the ninth if you want to come say hi down in SD Reno at the Reno Tahoe Underground Comedy, something or other, March 14th through the 16th. And then a big old mean boys tour all through the South, me, Keith Carey and Tom Goss going to Houston, Austin, Dallas, Kansas City, St. Louis, Nashville, Atlanta and Orlando. So I take this for those, it'll be up on meboyspodcast.com and come see your show. It's fun. We always have a big party afterwards. Once you're in the crate, we get the dominatrix is there. You know, at some point we got a Taze Tom for the new iTunes review goal challenge. So I'm gonna send us a Taze or the Mail already. So that'll be a whole big fun party if you want to come check it out. Nice. All right, let's get the fuck out of here. Connor, say goodbye. Goodbye everybody. People of Earth, your planet is ours to be destroyed.