The latest with Jalen Duren.

0:00I'm so curious. So what the hell the lines are going to do with these two open roster spots? If it's not a, you know, legitimate running back or somebody you've heard of, who, what differences it make? Well, I mean, one, I know you don't care all that much about the punt returner. In fact, Kang, didn't you ask Stony before the show? Why didn't anybody have was it Evan? Evan did. He goes, how can you didn't ask him about the punt return? Who the punt returner was? It's probably going to be Tom Kennedy and I don't care. Well, here's the thing though, Stony, the coaches themselves tell us every week during the season, it's three phases to the game. You got to be good at it often. And then it seems like they don't even care now. Well, you don't have ones like, I know, you know, only matters when it matters. But I knew it was a, I knew it was a, you know, one question. I didn't think I'd be able to ask multiple questions unless it was like follow up, follow up like Bercad had. So I decided to go with the injury route. Why he loves injured players. And then you like that answer from Stony?

1:06If he actually told you what he said, what did he actually do? You need to have a lot of that right. Exactly. I don't care about the pattern right now. Of course, Evan, you know, it's going to happen on first game, whoever the lion's punt returner is going to fumble the punt return. And they're going to lose because of it. And Evan's going to say, see, see, see, the honeymoon's over with O'Tani. But it's going to bring that in my face. So it might be two skill position players. And that's always kind of exciting, right? I have a, who the skill position guys of the guys, everyone gets fired up about it. Maybe it'll be Tom Kennedy and Tom Kennedy. I think it's eight years, a lion, eight or nine years, a lion. He's only made the roster out of fall camp once. Yeah. Another time he was hurt. And every other time he's been cut and signed to the practice squad. Some believe him. By the way, our good buddy, well, good buddy, Wojo. You see what he just tweeted with a picture. No, he's taking pictures now. Bad news is,

2:06my power is out. Good news is the lights are on a Tim Hortons. What's his hashtag? Blasting cream. There you go. Two four, which is my favorite. Two four eight five three nine 97 97 Bill and Utica. How Bill? Hey, good afternoon. Great show as always. Thank you. So I was a personal friend of Mark Wells and unfortunately passed away. Yes. Years ago. But he told me some great stories about the 80 Olympics. And he told me that her books added him. He was playing minor league in Northern Quebec and Brooks knew new of them. The reason why he was added as the last player over Tim Heron. Now Tim, Tim Heron was a great goal score scored 53 goals. That was a kid from Minnesota, right? Yeah. Minnesota. Yeah. 53 goals he scored. So to school record at that time, Garrett. But he's her books added wells because he was such a fluent skater. He needed somebody to be able to

3:10skate with a famous KLM line and Wells could do it. Yeah. He got him in there as a shutdown player. Yeah, he played it bowling green first, though, right? Correct. Yep. Bowling green. Yep. So back then there was no internet that couldn't, the Russians couldn't follow him where he was going. Yeah, it's funny because I'm reading the book with the details. I was stunned that there were a handful of guys that played minor league hockey. I had no idea. I found I found Bush Knighter's career. He played on the 76 Olympic team and then played four years of minor league hockey between the 76 and the 80 games. But absolutely. Yeah. It's good book. No internet. Nobody's going to track them. And these guys, you know, her books knew everything. That's why Brooks basically had his team picked before the trials even started. He only did that just to to appease the gods of hockey, but he already had his team picked.

4:11Hey, thank you for the phone call, Bill. Yeah, the movie's great. The documentary's great. And I will say that the book was great. Okay. Yep. It seems like something you'd love to be honest. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We got an update here. Jalen Durin contract situation. The hoops collective podcast yesterday, Anthony Slater, Brian Winhorse and Tim McMahon. We're talking about how subordinates wanted out of Sacramento and in the middle of this Detroit gets mentioned and talk about Durin. The first voice you're going to hear is Anthony Slater. Then you'll hear Brian Winhorse and then you'll hear Tim McMahon. And here's what they said.

5:445 for 180. That's 36 a year. How would you feel about that? I think it's a little rich to be quite honest with you. You know, because of the salary cap, the money I don't care about, but because I would affect the cap, I just think he has not shown the ability to shoot from anywhere outside of five feet. And you can't in my mind in today's NBA, pay a guy that much money you can who can't do that. That's my biggest concern. You know, I look at the obviously the playoffs was bad. But you see there, you're seeing a lot of players who you think aren't really that good getting a hell of a lot of money. And they have to, you know, save money for a sore who it looks like they determined is number two in the pecking order. And his brother just got a contract worth about 40 million. And a sore probably won't get that.

6:49I was about to say that what his brother got should not impact what he is. His brother is better offensively than he is. Yeah, by like a factor of two. Yeah. Look, Dern has gotten better every year. I'm not that stupid. And he can't, and he can't continue to get better. You don't pay him for what he's done. You pay him for what you think he's going to do next. Right. And can he develop that little outside shot that you need? Yeah. So just so people know, Amen Thompson average 18.3 a game last year, a sartops and averaged 9.9. A Sart is, you know, they're different players. But what one brother got shouldn't really impact with the other brother got, but it's going to be expensive to keep a Sart. He's a valuable asset to this team. As far as Dern's concern, if Dern would accept that, I'd probably give it to him. It's well below the max. Right. And there was a time there where it looked like he was going to get the max. And there was a time that looked like he was worthy of

7:51getting, if not the max something close to it, then the playoffs happened, right? Yeah. Five at 36 is such a bargain compared to the max. Right. That it might be a very team friendly contract as we work our way through the way like Dylan Larkin Dylan Larkin, you say what you want about him? What he's getting paid now is a 30 goal score is peanuts compared to what 30 goal score has gone the offseason. Yeah. Everybody should want Dylan Larkin back with the Red Wings because for his production, what you're paying is great value. And I got a feeling it's going to be the same thing true with Dern over the course of the next five years. And that quite frankly, the savings that they're going to get to allow him to do some other things. I think I would take that. If he, if the holdup is during that's one thing, I hope the holdup isn't the pistons. And he said that's what he thought the offer was. Yeah. Look, I'm, pistons are drawing a line. It appears and I don't blame them for that. Yeah. 248, 539, 97, 97 phone calls feedback. Carson Anderson will

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