The Implications of the Lindsey Clancy Trial

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2:02There's a lot to learn about the midterms from the Lindsey Clancy trial. There's a lot to learn about voting from the Lindsey Clancy trial. There's a lot to learn about false teaching from the Lindsey Clancy trial. There's a lot to learn about society's threats and who feels safe and were risk lay in the Lindsey Clancy trial and the aftermath of it. President Trump is starring in the President Trump show in Dallas, Texas, which is a show about President Trump in relation to the midterms where some folks are running for office. They're not named Donald Trump, but this is about Donald Trump. This is exactly what the left wants. Every single race in where I live, I live in Idaho, but next door in the separate country of Washington and down the coast and into California, city council races are about President Donald John Trump. We need to stop Trump, therefore I'm running for a city council position. Number 34 in Santa Viego, California to stop Trump.

3:07That's one way to view it. That's the way the left views it. Now those are just electoral politics, though, that couldn't have anything to do with the Lindsey Clancy trial and yet it does. For years now, all going on 15 years, think of this, going on 15 years. President Trump has been called a serial rapist, a tool of Russia, but he has been called a well pedophile. That's the new one. Serial murderer and this lands with some people. And this is amplified through a panic loop, an outrage loop of a social media feed, chicken feed, cow feed. Now I think of that phrase social media feed. They will eat what we feed them.

4:08And so there are plenty of women and there's an academic paper that shows that TikTok type experiences, seven second clips of videos, or even a minute long video, but with seven second cuts and fast cuts. For some reason, women are inclined. Inclined. Is it really addictive about that? And the brain rot, that's real. I quoted to you an academic paper a couple of weeks ago that this is real. It's reversible. Attention span goes away and people are not operating at any level of thought it's feeling. And the ballot box is about feeling and people are going to vote because they feel like President Trump is creating prison camps to put same-sex attracted people and gender to find people in him. So they feel that way. They feel that this is a brand new thing and forcing border laws, deporting people. They feel like that's brand new. They feel like this is the first time that's ever been done. Of course, that's not true.

5:09But they feel like it's unique because there's a uniquely bent president because they feel like President Trump has a unique way of being bent and they feel like he's uniquely in caring. And they feel like open borders is the compassionate thing to do. And they feel like well, Lindsey Clancy's broken. Why are we putting her on trial? And some women feel like Patrick Clancy did it. They feel like the evidence shows irrevocably that Patrick Clancy killed the kids. They feel that way very strongly. And they're very surprised to find out other people don't feel that way. There's a lot to be learned in society. Some members of the jury got together with NBC News and they sat around in the backyard and they talked about the trial in the aftermath. And this Lindsey Clancy juror spoke to the news expressing her frustration with the man who refused to vote not guilty. I wasn't. He really did not take anything that anybody said.

6:11The nurses, he tried to ask a question about the medications and we went back to the report from South Shore Hospital. We had the toxicology report. We could see exactly the amounts that nurses in the room spoke to that. And the hospitals on the jury, there are nurses on the jury. Yes. So they spoke to that specific thing that was a person that he had. And he just completely disregarded the information that they gave him. I mean, he had reasonable doubt. He admitted he had reasonable doubt after we watched that video of the interview. I think that's what it was. He admitted he had reasonable doubt. And I started filling out the forms. I was so excited. I actually did with three forms I had a fill out. And I started filling them out. I wrote my signature on each one. And then he said, but I'm still not going to say that she's not guilty by reason of incident.

7:13That was the woman who's apparently the four person of the jury, the four woman, because she was filling out the forms. Look at the boilers down. He didn't do what we said. He's not in our trauma loop. He's not a member of our feed. He's not in our social media outrage loop. He wouldn't do what we said, but there's something else so indicative and so such a lesson about society. See, there were four women in this interview within BC News. This is part of it. Another juror described how frustrated she was with the same man as well. I'm not sure if a rogue is the right word to, but every one of us in the hours of a frustration would get up and walk the room. Because you just couldn't sit anymore. And would all go out of the cart with the exhibits. He, I think, got up to the cart once very quickly

8:15and went back to his seat. He would not, he would not interact with us and try to understand. We read to him on numerous occasions the definition of a reasonable doubt from Judge Sullivan's instruction. He actually said one day in the end, well why don't we have the judge come in and read it again? And we were like, no, we have it in front of us. We don't need that. And we would highlight it. And, you know, so and so, this is the definition of a reasonable doubt. But he had the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsay viciously killed her children. That's a hard thing to come off of. He wouldn't do what we said. We told him, time and again, trans women are women. And he couldn't get it. He couldn't come off the fact that some of them have male jitter

9:16tell you trans women are women. He would not put on his mask. We told him, we know it's just a Zoom call and we're not in the same room but show some support, some empathy. And he would not put on his mask. I begged him, just don't vote. You can't vote for a child murder. The president Trump is that. That's he's an and he would not, he would not vote with us. I told him, your mask protects you, my mask protects you. We're not safe until we're all safe. I told him it's the safest, most secure election in history. He still has questions. He's not listening to our slogans. He's dangerous. You're looking at in my mind the result of trauma looping, outrage looping, you know that social media feed the consume what we feed them. But there's something else.

10:18They're on video. Comfortably seated, it looks like in someone's backyard. They feel perfectly safe with their faces on video. They aren't risking anything. After all, they did the right thing. No one's going to dox them or look into their backgrounds or go find out about their divorces or the problems in their marriage or maybe the medications they're on or their voting history or maybe sometimes they blew their top at work or yelled at their kids. No one's going to do that because they did the right thing. No one would ever do that. Do you remember the officer named Darren Wilson? Pickback. No, not Derek Shavin. That was the George Floyd officer. Darren Wilson, do you remember him? Michael Brown tried to murder him. Michael Brown reached into the car, grabbed the officer's service weapon. They tussled over it. It went off. The officer was lucky to be alive

11:21and the officer still went to try to arrest Michael Brown. Michael Brown did not have his hands up. He was not saying hands up don't shoot. Even at her holders jury could not convict Darren Wilson of that crime because he didn't commit one. Where's Darren Wilson? We don't know. They kind of had to disappear from society. Where's Michael Brown? He's in statues. Hands up don't shoot. In Congress, there were the hands up don't shoot chance. There were the people on their knees, hands up don't shoot. Iconography, there was no risk to that. There are people who are living in trauma loops and outrage loops and fear loops. And every time a video is scary and they're watching and tick-tock and they say it's scary and they share this and I'm literally shaking. The algorithm says give them more fear and every time there's an outrage.

12:22President Trump stocked it up, pardon Lindsey Clancy. The defense attorney gave him the opportunity to pardon Lindsey Clancy. He won't do it. The defense attorney knows he has to know. He's a lawyer. President Trump couldn't pardon Lindsey Clancy if he wanted to. It state charges but outrage loop, outrage. Give them more outrage. And then the fear loop, the fear. There's a parsing going on that people are being driven so far from the fact that we have a loving father in heaven who never does anything for our ultimate harm. The struggles we go through are often for us. They're happening for us, not to us.

13:23There's some people who are living in the two-second fear cycle, the doom cycle, the doom scrolling, the worry scrolling, the fear scrolling. That they can't remember that fact. They can't relate to it. And Lindsey Clancy's attorney gets this and it's not just women who fall into this. He's wearing a pink tie because as he said, Lindsey Clancy's a big fan of women's rights. Listen to what this man said of Lindsey Clancy's defense attorney. Kevin, you're in a jury. What are you going to do for your show, sir? This is your show. This is your show, sir. We've been in people how long Jerry's election took you guys from diligent. This is your show, sir. This is your show where that pink tie which indicates women's rights. There's a lot to learn about this. People will go into the ballot box and they will be voting out of tremendous trauma and fear because President Trump is building the camps. They have to stop them at the city council races.

14:24Position number 34 in LVAHL, California. We're going to stop Trump. President Trump is putting on a show this week. It's a great big show in Texas. It's the President Trump show. And there's some people running for the midterms. They're not named President Trump, but they may as will be. So what's the one word that President Trump could talk about? Safety. Everything the Democrats want equals less safety. Open borders, less safety. Defund the police, less safety. Don't put mentally ill people who are tragically dangerously mental ill away. Let them kill their kids, safety. President Trump getting illegal immigrants off the roads who are driving semi-trucks and their licenses say no name given.

15:25Safety. Election security is safety. Knowing who's coming into a country is safety. There's a lot of things that the President could run upon, but since he's decided to make it the Donald John Trump show, I suggest he attach one word to this. They want safety. The Democrats do not want safety. Only in that, I think, could they sway any female votes at this point. We'll come back under the Cyples view. Welcome back to the Cyples view. I'm Todd Runman.

16:25Thanks for sticking with us. We're getting a little kinks worked out. We're in a new studio. Randy's in a new studio. I was talking to people at AFR and making my plans to come back for a share week. Man. I'm not going to talk about it. I'm going to talk about it. I'm going to talk to Randy behind the scenes. I don't get to look him in the eye. I enjoy doing that and work here with Alex. But something really cool to walk the hallways at AFR. I don't want to get in Kevin's way. He's the great security lead. There was a great security team. He keeps us all very safe. I'm going to talk to him. I'm going to talk to him. I'm going to talk to him. He keeps us all very safe. I know people come in. They volunteer for a share week and take phone calls from fellow listeners. Always fun to meet people and to look you in the eye. If you're going to be running a two-polo, I hope we get to say hello.

17:28If you're thinking about doing that, please do. And in a share week, I'm going to take another shift on the phones. That was fun. I used to work in telemarketing back in the day. Outbound telemarketing. I had some inbound but mostly outbound stuff. Calling people and selling time-life books and then working at a company and selling printing services all around the world. And so I missed that. So I'll be on the phones too. The share week is coming up in three weeks or so. We're called to be in this world and not of it. Part of that is I think to keep a hands and a foot well planted at all times. In the spiritual. And to remember that as we are making decisions in this life, we are making decisions that are eternal. And I was speaking earlier about the Lindsey Clancy Trial and so much we can learn about that in the aftermath in terms of voting. But what about in terms of the spiritual?

18:32The women on that jury, well, I guess some men voted this way too. So the people who voted to acquit Lindsey Clancy must think that they're letting her off. That she's had enough punishment. After all, she's paralyzed. Her kids are gone. No. Yes, she murdered her kids. And one commentator said that Lindsey Clancy is an empty shell of a person because her kids passed away. They didn't pass away. She murdered them. But spiritually speaking, no one gets off. So what if this ill considered this trauma loop-derived media, trauma loop-derived social media, panic loop, outrage looping?

19:32What if Lindsey Clancy off and calling her brave and stunning? And we love you, Lindsey. What if that is, in fact, doing to her? I mean, isn't that sort of standing in God's way? And to keep him on, yes, there's one juror who disagreed. And maybe he thought he could exact punishment. I don't know. Maybe he simply thought we can't have murderers walking around. But there is the eternal. And the women on the jury who are so frustrated because that man would not do what they told him to do. I mean, they told him. Again and again and again, they told him. And he wouldn't do what they wanted him to do. Now there's no justice. And if you think for a moment about perfect justice,

20:35which comes in the new heaven and the new earth, can it help you relax at all? You know, there's plenty of people who are plenty scared about our world. And it can be scary. You know, I talk about the surveillance state a lot in the show, the surveillance and control state. And I see it being built very clearly. But it's not a mystery to me at all. You know, you have the flock surveillance company, of the axon surveillance company, of the palentir surveillance company, ring doorbells, this is a surveillance company. You have vacuum cleaners that now chew your house and clean all the time. And they've got cameras and their wifi connected and that can spy. And there's now people are surprised to find out LG TVs apparently spy on you. We were working on a patent for that 20 years ago at Microsoft. Me and my friend Cyrus started a team to create TVs like that. We were just looking at it from advertising perspective. And I can see very, very clearly that the surveillance and control, the surveillance society leads to a control society.

21:35What's the point in surveilling everybody if you don't eventually want to control them? Well, you know, it'd be nice if you could drive to work at that time of day, but we're not going to let you. We're going to surveil you out of that. We're going to control you out of that. There's a lot of people looking at this saying, I want out. I'm moving. Where? Where? Paraguay. Drawings don't go to Paraguay. Here's the better question. Where are you going to outrun Satan on earth? Wouldn't it be better to feel safe for your app? Wouldn't it be better to be content for your app? I can't. Paul did it in a prison cell. Chained to the wall, knowing he was going to be beheaded. And if Paul didn't want to be beheaded, all he had to do was go bow and say that Nero was not... He didn't have to say Nero was the son of God.

22:35All he had to say is, yeah, Nero is the son of God too, just like Jesus. They're equal. They would let him go. Couldn't do it. And he felt content. So yeah, I imagine there's parts of the world you could run to. There's places north of where I live, way up in the mountains, and those people are off the grid. And some of them designed their houses in such a way that, hey, good luck getting a good look at them from a drone. And they've got some hardened structures, and they've got some underground structures, and they've got some sustainable food sources. Some of it's grown in the house, some of it's grown in green houses. And there's commuters of people, and they patrol the roads, and they've got their own security systems, and they feel plenty safe if the new world order comes along, and the surveillance state comes along. They don't care that much about flock cameras because they've got their own little churches. There's a church up the hill from us, where we live, and people live in this around that church. They don't leave much.

23:36It's a beautiful looking building. We're not welcome there. It's kind of a commune. Christian commune, they say, I don't think it's Christian because we're not to shun the community, but they feel safe, I'm sure. But are they? Wouldn't it be better to be safe for a rat? You know, if you've ever been through something super scary, and you're convinced it's the scariest thing that can ever happen, and it's the worst, and you'll never overcome it, and now you look back and go, yeah, that was scary, and I'm okay. I think that's what eternity is like. That was scary, and I'm okay. And 100 years from now are even more okay, and a trillion years. So I think we're wise if we want to be in the world than not of it to remember, that we are running with endurance, the race laid out for us, following in the model of the founder, the perfect of our faith, Christ Jesus. He didn't fear.

24:38He knew he was an eternal being, now he always had existed and always will, we're different, we're a created being. But we will always exist, and that race marked out for us. He wants us to choose the part of the race where we go with him, but we get to choose. See, that's the race he's marked out. Come to me. I am the way the truth in life. Come over here. I'm over here. Follow that narrow path. It's well lit by my light. I am the way the truth in the life. I'm also the light and the map. Come to me. This is the race marked out for you over here. This one looks better because I get to do exactly what I want to do on earth, and I like that. Okay, that's not the race I marked out. We're eternal beings, and if you doubt it, if you doubt it, listen to this little boy. And he's under heavy anesthesia. Listen to him speak to Jesus and his father.

25:39And how is Jesus? He's so beautiful. He's an angry Jesus, a new cooling back. We need you. I need you. I miss you Jesus. I said, do you see me see, Bordy? He's that happy way you're going. Oh my God. Mom loves you dad. She says you're all the time. He's that who's so beautiful. I can't wait to see you. Here give me a hug. I will scream a better. I will have talking to you dad.

26:39He's waking up from surgery. And this is more. It's more of the audio of this boy describing heaven. I wish I was with you dad. It's so pretty up here. It's so many flowers. The butterflies. The butterflies are butterflies in heaven. Oh my God. He's so pretty. He has fire eyes. I know you'll save everyone. Butterflies. I've interviewed a lot of people who've had near-death experiences. I've interviewed a lot of producers of films and videos and works. Do you know butterflies are very, very consistent?

27:39Consistently seen. One more clip here. This is the boy continues speaking with his dad in Jesus. Can you see now? Can you see? I've seen heaven. Heaven is so pretty. I miss you dad. Don't go away. Please don't. This is not one. Okay, you know. I love you Jesus. I love you God. He's so pretty. He works so hard. Supervice for us and I love you. He's so fun. I want to be better for her. I'm sorry Jesus. Are you awake now? Jesus loves you. I was.

28:39I was. So you're awake now. I'm awake. And the people of God said, amen. Everything we do has eternal implications. And on that Lindsey Clancy jury, these people who were so frustrated because that man wouldn't do what they said, they wanted to save Lindsey Clancy. They can't. No one can. But Jesus. And good thing we're all so much better than her. All of us. So much better. You know, we've never thought of harming another which is according to Jesus to do it. We've never had blood less than our hearts ever, which is to do it.

29:47We've never wanted revenge. You know, we've never had revenge dreams, revenge fantasies, which is to have done it. Everything we do has eternal implications. The words we speak. The tongue is a flame, says James. It's a very world of inequity. It sets on fire the course of our lives and is set on fire itself by hell. For every beast, bird, reptile, and creature of the sea has been tamed and tamed by the human race. But who contained the tongue? It's an endless evil filled with deadly poison. With it, we bless our Father and Heaven and curse the people made in His image and my brothers and sisters at ought not be this way.

30:50Every action. So for those angry with the Lindsey Clancy trial, have you taken it to the cross? For those who hate Lindsey Clancy, have you cleansed it at the cross? There are eternal implications to this. And if you doubt that, listen to Ashley Conrad, a health professional who's experienced in working with mothers who suffer from postpartum depression, she weighs in. I've been asked now a few dozen times to comment on this Lindsey Clancy case because over my 20-year career, I have worked with hundreds of thousands of postpartum women. Here are my thoughts. They're really short. What you're looking at here, folks, is a good old case of demonic possession. Yes, you heard it here first. This is not an issue of micronutrient deficiencies, hormone imbalances, or lack of sleep because you can have all of those things happening inside the body and never have a thought, hmm, I should go kill all of my kids. Second thing, when you hear a voice, when you hear a voice tell you to do a very specific

31:54thing, you hear an audible voice tell you to do something and it pops up out of nowhere. There is only one of two places that voice is coming from. God or Satan, only those two places. True. When we're hearing external voices that are unbounded, they're not human, they're only coming from two sources. So here's a tip or a couple of them. God will never disagree with himself. God will never disagree with the Bible. Jesus is not an accuser and he cannot lie. If you keep those things in mind and understand that at no time for any reason ever will God tell you to sin, that would be a key thing for us to recall because we're to be in the world and not of it. We'll come back under the Sepples view.

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35:01Trycacaobliss.com slash tot. Welcome back to the Supples View on Todd Herman. We'll get to the tar babbling and a person who no tear in just a moment. Quick cleanup item. The former CDC director Robert Redfield explained what the agency did to avoid creating so-called vaccine hesitancy. One of the first things CDC did after I left was they stopped recording people that were vaccinated who got COVID. So when you asked CDC if there was people who were vaccinated that got COVID meaning the vaccine didn't work and preventing infection, they said we don't have any data.

36:02And the argument was that we shouldn't do anything that would discourage people from getting vaccinated because we decided that we, but the public health community decided that the answer to the question was get vaccinated. And then they started to mislead the American people more by saying, you know, after you got two shots, they told the American public what they tell you, they told you you were completely vaccinated. What does that mean completely vaccinated? All right. Completely vaccinated implies, oh, I'm protected. No, you're not protected. All right. So, you know, this was your exactly right Joseph. There needs to be a real aggressive education about the ethics in public health. And my question for Dr. Redfield is where were you? It's great that you're speaking out now when there were those of us who were having our social media accounts locked down and losing 90,000 Twitter followers in a day and being

37:07threatened with our jobs and there are people literally being fired. And there are doctors being taken to professional review boards and losing some of their accreditation and having their clinics threatened and doctors being run out of the country. There are doctors who are put in jail. Where were you? And why have you leapt into action now? Is it your book? Because I know you have a book to come and sell and maybe it just took a while to get this courage and I want to be thankful for this, but it's not courage any longer, Dr.. Now it's convenience. And I'm sure that you had pain in this. I remember that you came out, Dr. Redfield, and you said maybe we should reopen the schools. We think there's a little bit of panic. That was the first time I saw you speak sense. And it was about six months into the lockdowns of the school, which never served any effect. Guys, bravery is not the absence of fear.

38:12If you don't fear, you're not brave. You're probably a sociopath. Bravery is acting despite the fear. We live in a society where we need to be able to act despite the fear. Do you think that the man who was on the Lindsey Clancy jury and refused to vote to convict? I don't see him putting his face on video. I don't see him doing interviews. Maybe he just doesn't want to be famous or infamous. But do you think it wasn't scary or annoying to be in that room and to stand with his own convictions? We live increasingly in a world where we need to stand on our own weight, stop, strike that stop on God's convictions. Because they're not convictions, they're truth. God doesn't believe things. He states the truth. God doesn't have opinions. God has ultimate perfect, complete knowledge.

39:14When we stand on that, we're not standing on opinion or thought or a consideration. We're standing on the solid work of God's word. When the CDC was lording power over others, forcing the injections they were sending. When they were lying, they were sending. When they were receiving, they were sending. And these pharmaceutical companies were being allowed to steal money from us for injections that never worked. They were stealing. And there was Dr. Redford in fear. So I'm glad he's speaking out now, but please let's not lie in eyes. Please let's ask people who are not speaking out right now to speak out. Because there's plenty of harm still being done and plenty of hiding still happening. That said, may God protect Robert Redfield because he is speaking out now. In this program, we thank the Lord for placing supposedly wise people on tall towers of shaking sand with their feature called the Tower Babbling. You know about the biblical truth of the Tower of Babel. A disciples view presents the Tower of Babbling.

40:16One recent study found that choosing not to prosecute someone for a low-level crime led to a dramatic reduction in crime. You serious? That's a good one. Thank you, Randy. Three sound bites since the day's Tower of Babbling. Bill Nye, the mechanical engineering guy. You know this is background, right? He's a former. He's a retired Boeing mechanical engineer, which finds job. I don't know if that makes him the science guy. Bill Nye, the mechanical engineering guy, said last year, the best way to stop hurricanes was to vote, of course, not for Trump. If you have young voters out there, encourage them to vote. People say, what can I do about climate change? If we were talking about it, associating it with big storms like this, that would be really good. But the main thing is vote. Thank you.

41:18That September, as I understand, it was the first hurricane for September in a long while. I mean, who's counting? It's Bill Nye, the mechanical engineering guy. Don't question him. Next sound bites in today's Tower of Babbling. These two girls in Pennsylvania were criminally charged because of playground swing broke while they were on it. To host these charges, we're baffling but expected. She tells me after the swing was broken, police came to her door asking she pay for the repairs. And when she asked for evidence, the girls broke the swing intentionally and proof the park was inspected prior, Huss says she was warned that things would get worse. Makes a comment that they are just trying to resolve this civilly and not jam the kids up with asitation. Okay, 10 and 12 year olds who succeeded in breaking playground equipment girls purposely.

42:26I also want to see the issue of that, I'll prove that because they should be recruited into the strong woman world. Last sound bites in today's Tower of Babbling. New Hampshire Democrat representative Maggie Goodlander says she stands by urging the military to disobey illegal orders. So yes, I absolutely stand by this message and it's one that I will continue to repeat every day I have the honor of serving this country. Oh, incidentally, she was asked about what illegal orders should they disobey and she wasn't able to name any. But in case they come, then disobey because one day they might come but there's none now as far as she knows or something. And that's a wrap for today's Tower of Babbling. That was the Tower of Babbling. Whoa! That is news. On a Disciples view. It is indeed news and on a personal note, we are nearing the recognition of a date in

43:32history that a lot of us are going to find painful and that was the murder of Charlie Kirk. And there's a lot to say about Charlie, particularly if you ever got to spend any time around him. And in the time that I got to speak to him, I got to have a conversation of meaning with him once and met him a couple of other times and chatted but at one time got to have a really meaningful discussion with him. And that was backstage at an event in Gig Harbor, Washington. And Charlie was coming down the hallway. His people had come to me, his people. I don't know that he'd like that phrase but some of the team, the TPOSA team said, hey, Charlie wants to make sure he gets a chance to meet you and chat with you. Would you make yourself available? I said, gosh, absolutely. I love to meet Charlie. And so they kept saying, hey, it's going to be now or you good. Can we go to the green room? And yep, yep, let's go back. And Charlie was walking down the hallway and there were some doors open and people were

44:37trying to get his attention and he had security with him. And he was frustrated, hey, these people have waited a long time. Please make sure I get to say hi to them. And please make sure we get this time and please make sure that the TPOSA youth are taking care of, I mean, not a thought for himself. And walks down the hallway and we pop into the room and shake his hand and sit down. These words out of that man's mouth were nice to meet you and hey, Charlie, great to meet you. He goes, is your family here and is there anything we can do for them? Is your family here? Is there anything we can do for them? First words that I was a mouth, he was half my age, not quite, but I'm not quite that old. I said that is so kind of you to ask and no, they're not here. And is your family here? Not on this trip. I tried to take him as often as I came. They're not here. And are you getting what you need here? Completely focused on the other.

45:38Are you getting what you need here? And I told him, yeah, it's been a great event. The church has been great. The security team has great. We talked about radio the way it used to be. What he was doing in radio. We talked about the state of the country, what he saw. And then I said, you know, I'm speaking, the obviously you and I speak a lot. And I'm rather nervous because I'm going to ask basically to do a sermon. And I'm not a pastor and I'm not qualified to preach. And he said, hey, with all due respect, let me stop you there, Todd. He goes, again, with all due respect, respecting his elder. He's far less successful, far less important elder. And he said, you are, no, that's not what he said. He said, Todd, we are the closest thing to a pastor.

46:42Most people ever meet. And so it's very important that we take these tasks on. And without fear regret, you know, share your testimony. That's what I intend to do and you're right. It is that that's the truth that we are that way. And he said, no, you're going to do great. He looked at his watch and said, I know you have people. They waited so long. I just, you know, it's hard. And I said, hey, go, go. And thank you for giving me this much time, Charlie. And he was such a gentleman. I miss him and I didn't know him. It sucks that he got killed. It feels really unfair. But Jesus, at a plan, ultimately, I did go give that testimony.

47:44And it was, I did it twice once during the event and then once actually in church, which was a mind-blower in church. Now, when I did this at the event and shared what I considered testimony not a sermon, afterwards a young woman came up to me and she said something along the lines of, I want to come back to church, but I'm terrified of church. Do you think you could help me? I said, well, God can help, but let's sit down and talk about this. And she shared with me some church trauma and pretty significant church trauma, family trauma. I have no idea what I said to her. I remember trying to listen so people would talk and talk to people would listen. So I was asking questions and clarifying questions. And I'm sure I was trying to convey emotional attachment that I would feel afraid if I were you.

48:45And I might feel betrayed. And I might feel angry and just trying to put names on emotions and trying in that way to invite her to name them and own them. And I don't remember what I said. I know because I learned later that she went back to church because of what God said through me. But at one point during this, one of the organizers of the event came up to me and I was supposed to go back and have another meeting to prepare for a panel. And he came up, he said, I'm sorry to interrupt, but this is super important that I looked at him and said, brother, I'm here to tell you it's not. I'll be right there. I promise. But I promise this is more important, but I'll be right there. Later I learned that she had been staying with the family I know. In the driveway, she had an RV. And they let her camp out in the driveway. And I've learned now a couple of years later that she did go to church. She let the Lord into her heart.

49:46She actually went down to California and is pursuing a degree, a dual degree, one of them in theology. She's in Bible study. She's found the Lord and stuck with the Lord. And for whatever reason, she said to this family, I talked to her recently. She wants you to know she remembers that conversation and it changed her life. And I want her to know I had nothing to do with it. I don't remember what I said. But I do remember that a young guy named Charlie Kirk said, hey Todd, we're the closest thing to a pastor. Most of these people are ever going to hear from. It was true in her case, because she dropped that a church 10 years prior from church trauma. I miss Charlie. I'm glad he's with God. In the beginning was the word, the word was with God, the word was God, because we believe we speak. Because he first loved us, we speak his word. We walk in the path of Jesus Christ to make disciples of all nations.

50:48Until God grants His permission to speak again together may his peace, which transcends understanding, rest upon you and your families. On behalf of Randy and A. Far, I'm Todd Herman and this has been my disciples view. The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family Association or American Family Radio.