Remembering 9/11

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1:01KNOW, knowyourriskpodcast.com or there's a link here in the show notes. Knowyourriskpodcast.com. Investment Advises Services, I'll do a check financial LLC and SEC Registered Investment Advisor. Investments of all risks and I guarantee you'd pass pharmacies and care and T future results. Track 26, dash 112. God has a really blessed man. He let me work in DC, let me work with EID and Hollywood and Silicon Valley and he's shown me through all those experiences that there is one problem and one solution and that's why we do this show. Welcome to a Disciples View with Todd Herman. With the God of the Universe created the world, he didn't snap his fingers or wink his eye. Lord spoke. God said let there be light because we believe we speak about the happenings in this world mindful that our true home is with Jesus Christ in his kingdom. I'm Todd Herman. Welcome to a Disciples View. I was in New York a couple weeks before 9-11 and I had an opportunity to spend the weekend,

2:12never done that before. I was there on Microsoft business and we were negotiating a pretty important deal and that negotiations shouldn't wrap up on Friday. It was my responsibility to stay behind and get this thing done. I called my wife and said, hey, what, here's the deal. I got to make sure this comes together. This is a big one for us and my team and frankly for our income. So I'm going to have to stay over. I did. I talked to a friend of mine who was a native New Yorker, Rick and his wife Paula. In fact, they had me over for a dinner. I asked them, what should I do while I'm in New York? I've never done a touristy thing because it was airplane to hotel, to meeting to meeting

3:15to hotel, to business dinner, to airplane, gone. I mean, I'd gone running in and around Central Park. I'd done that. That's it. That's really the only touristy thing I ever did. Never rode in one of the horse carts. I was kind of cruel. No, that's not true. I went and I sought out the first time I got to New York. I sought out the Dakota. That's the building it was drawn when it lended lived and outside of which he was shot. I was a huge Beatles fan still in. So I saw that. That's touristy. So I did that the first time I went to New York. But that was it. That's the only touristy thing. So they said there's sort of two things that everybody should do at one point or another. One is to go to Staten Island and see the Statue of Liberty. But if you're going to be here on Monday, go up into the World Trade Center and go see

4:19the windows in the world. Go up in the morning. Go up breakfast. So I kind of thought out this what my decision would be. I never did go to Staten Island and said a friend of mine and I we got together and we walked through the meat packing district and through the burrows and took a little tour of the burrows with the New Yorker. That was cool. It's a good neighborhood to neighborhood and to see the uniqueness and to go to some of the unique book shops and such. So it wasn't really touristy. Monday morning before meeting because I'm meeting didn't kick off until the afternoon. I got up and I went to the World Trade Center and I rode up in the elevator obviously. Got up to the top and it was phenomenal. You could see it was a clear day and you could see the curvature of the earth. It was that high.

5:19You can see this sometimes from airplanes that as the horizon disappeared, at least I could observe God's earth and the curvature of it and the shape that he made it. And it was breathtaking. And you have no idea how high that felt. I'm not afraid of heights but it was weird to be that high and to think like what would it be like to fall. And from that height it almost feels like you could fly. That's the illusion. And how could you ever fall that far? And I rode the elevator down and the same guy was operating it. Same elevator operator. Friendly dude.

6:21It was only about two weeks later. I had been on yet another business trip. I don't remember where. Maybe the west coast got in very late and so it went to bed. And I slept in. I didn't have any responsibilities first thing in the morning so I slept in. And I woke up and we had the bedroom. We were rebuilding. I was building a new bedroom. And I'm not good at construction so it took forever. But I woke up in what was the downstairs living room with the bed there and kind of stretched and turned on the TV. Which I don't do any longer. I don't have a TV. We don't have a TV in our bedroom but turn it on. And I guess it was well. It was 9.30 or so in the morning. And the camera was panning up and down the American city along this river.

7:26And I'm looking at this going. I travel a lot. I don't know where that is. And I didn't yet have the sound up. I'm so kind of blurry. I didn't get panning up and down. I was thinking, wait a minute. Maybe this is Pittsburgh. I've never been to Pittsburgh. Because of the river and I didn't recognize it. And then the camera pan to uptown. And I saw the Empire State Building. And I sat there and thought, wait a minute. Where are the world trade centers? And then I turned the sound up. And just as I was doing that, they went back and showed the images of the airplanes hitting the building buildings and the buildings falling, collapsing on themselves.

8:26And I remember thinking, dear God, it's New York. And of all the people, I could have thought of, you know, we didn't do a lot of business in the financial district. I don't know that I knew any traders. I didn't know the elevator operator. But I'd met him. And I thought, what did he ever do to anybody? And I, since I think in email, I don't know that we texted then to my girlfriend, who's now my wife, praise God, she was teaching in school. And she said we're watching. And I think that class was a, I think it was a kindergarten class.

9:27I was trying to explain this to children. And so much change and didn't change after that. There's these spotlights of memories I have. I remember flying into, I normally flew into Newark in this case. I'd flown into, I'd flown into Kennedy JFK. And I was flying out of JFK. And I, for a while, they were putting me through consistently being pulled aside for extra screening. I, I, I keyed in algorithm somehow. I don't know how. But I remember being really frustrated with this and saying something about it. And not, you know, I don't want to get kicked off the plane. So not being besieferous. But the security agent sort of pushed back against me.

10:27And, and he said, he was what he wanted me to check him, because he's Muslim instead of you. You want me to check him. And you know what the, the Muslim man said, he actually stepped to go, I would prefer it. I was shocked. He said, I would, yes, I would prefer that you check me. You should be checking me, not him. Because it's not white people who killed my friends in the trade center. It's people who stole my faith and did it. You should be checking us. It's, it goes, it's crazy that you don't check us. I've never been checked. He goes, and he's treated me often to get checked. I go, probably every other flight. He goes, madness, madness. He said, I see you checking babies diapers. And not me. I've never get checked. My name is Muhammad. And the terrorists knew this. And I believe it's by the grace of God that we haven't had another big incident like that.

11:27Something else that stands out in my mind was making, making a flight after 9-11. You know what? I wasn't at Microsoft. And I didn't know what was thinking. I was in my startup. I don't know why I connected it to Microsoft. I was at my startup. My radio company. When 9-11 occurred. And we, a year after that, we're making a flight back to New York. This is what keyed my memory because it was with my dear friend Ed, who worked for me. I frankly should have been working for him and his brother, but they were kind of to work for me. And Ed and I decided to fly back to New York on the anniversary, one year anniversary of 9-11. And we got to the airport early in the morning in Seattle, like a 6.30 or 6.

12:29Yeah, probably 6.30 a.m. flight. See a board at 6. And the plane was maybe 25 percent full. And we got a board and we were beginning to taxi and the pilot spoke. He said, I folks from the cockpit this morning just wanted to say something. This is the anniversary of 9-11. And I'm going to take a wild guess that some of you chose to fly today. And people applauded. They said, that's what I thought. And I just wanted to say something. I lost friends who were pilots on those planes. They were close friends of mine. And I would say this to any evil doers who intend to do this again, not today.

13:32No one's going to let you do that today. This country's changed. And again, the cockpit applauded. He said, if we can get clearance, I'd like to make a fly over to where the towers used to be today. If we can get clearance, I'm going to do that. That's okay with you guys. And again, applause. And yeah, there was that feeling of togetherness. I was talking to someone the other day about how she observes in effort to get us to hate Muslims. And it sickened her. I don't know that I ever hated a Muslim. And if I did, I'd be honest with you and say I did. I grew to hate Islam because it's got a radicalization problem.

14:39It calls for actions like that. And it doesn't mean I hate Islamic people because there's Islamic people who don't follow the faith that way. I still know some of them. But I think my biggest memory from that time, from that time period was looks of sadness on people's eyes and that flight back having spent a weekend. I remember the look of happiness in people's eyes up in the World Trade Center. Look at what we built. Look how high the towers are. And being back there a year afterwards, the look of sadness and loss.

15:43And where was Jesus? He was there catching some of the fallen. He was right there into his hands they felt. I'm recovering. We'll come back under the sepals view. I'm taught her to get to the tower babbling and a person who's here in just a moment. I'm looking at JD Vance's plan and $9,000 per child's per family.

19:02If you gave money for people to stay home with their kids, would there be more real economic and societal benefit than just traditional entitlement spending? Yes, because you would think, and I think it's safe to assume, that the percentage of people that will take care of that or that will take advantage of that, that actually use it for the right purposes will probably be a higher percentage of people than use entitlements generally speaking. But is it this thing that's super positive for the economy? No, I think the benefits are overstated. It's just more spending. You know, am I opposed to it? No, but we got to start looking at it. I mean, this is so applicable, right? And it's so true that any increase in spending without a spending cut somewhere else or an increase in tax is theft. It is. It's just monetization of debt is what you're doing and all of us will feel the weight of

20:04that in the decreased purchasing power of the currency that we have. Right? So it literally is borrowing from Peter to Paypal. And it really seems to me that we've put herself in a position where our GDP as the basis for our success makes it difficult for us to do things that are godly. For instance, the argument here is this helps women stay home and raise the kids. And but if they this raised a magic wand and let's say that $27,000 a year based upon three kids was enough for all mothers to stay home, that sinks the GDP because now there's people not out working. They're not driving. They're not buying gas. They're not paying B and O taxes, et cetera, or being paid on top of them. So if we became a more godly nation where more mayor mothers stayed home raising the kids and raising them well, we would do well spiritually, I would think, particularly if they're Christian families. So we would do poorly from a GDP perspective, or we in that kind of trap. No, look, look, if we go down the way of doing things, the way God intended them to be

21:07done, right? And we follow that on a cultural basis and all that kind of stuff. And let me throw it back to you. One reason why that is the case. The most advantageous thing that you can do for GDP growth is birth, birth rates, higher than birth rate. There is literally nothing more stimulative to an economy than having children. Okay, well, one of the things that you look up when you look across the world, do you know what societies and cultures have the highest birth rates? It's the most religious. Yeah. The most religious, right? So there's an example right there of what you're saying. If the question was, hey, we're going to do this $9,000 deal and it is going to correlate to a significantly higher percentage of people living in a godly way, raising their kids in a godly way, all that kind of stuff. And you could make the argument that there would be a long term significant economic benefit because when we do things God's way, including when we take care of other people, when we tie, when we live below our means, all of these things, if you look at it, they prevent so many of the economic issues that we have, right?

22:10Even when you listen to God talking about not gleaning your fields too cleanly, right? Leave things for other people. Provide, don't be a greedy capitalist that just sucks everything off the table, right? Leave residue, share your goods, don't build an extra storehouse. You can just go down the list of that economic advice that God's given us. And if we follow it all of it, of course, there'd be, it always works, right? It's one of those funny things. Why do you believe in God? And I'm like, because I see evidence all around me that he exists, right? And including when you follow his law and you follow his rule, all these things work out. It's when you start trying to get the benefit without the work, right? It's like, I feel like we're like the guy that's walking around with a surgically enhanced six pack and 20% body fat. You want to name rights? You're like, oh, you're going to six pack. You're like, that's not a six pack, buddy. That's a six plastic skin. Yeah, right, right. So no, there's no question it would be, but you see that the cycle we're on, right? And here's the problem. The more of this fake spending, the more of the stimulus that goes on, it keeps pushing

23:12GDP up higher and higher and higher. So when we actually try to pull in the reins and get more fiscally responsible, just that alone is going to create what could be an extraordinarily recessionary impulse through the economy, which is why they sort of can't. We've got a boxed ourselves into the meaning. Do you see anybody that's going to walk up there and say, listen, guys, here's the deal. We've spent way too much for way too long, okay? We're going to do these things to offset some of the pain, but we got to make some hard choices. We got to reduce spending. We're going to go through a recession. Unemployment's going to hit eight or 9%. But we're going to have some public works goods. We're going to try to get back to building responsible things, but it's going to be a tough time. Y'all just bear with me and stick with me. Okay, that cat would be gone so fast, right? Americans sit there and they believe it's a birthright to make 13.5% a year in the S&P 500, right? If the S&P 500 goes down 20%, you're a bad president, right?

24:14So you look at the entire system. It is geared for increased spending, increased GDP, all of this kind of stuff, and that's what we get rewarded on, right? That's the crazy thing. And we get into the job like, yeah, anyway, you know, there's just so much economic nonsense flying around right now. It really is, it's disheartening to put it lightly. I understand the impulse that Vance has to pay people to raise their kids at home instead of daycare. But I'm looking at things like this and this came out and you and I, we always end up saying this act that we don't get together and say, hey, let's go criticize President Trump. That's, that's, we, it's not it. But I saw this post from the President's and President Trump wrote great jobs numbers just announced breaking all estimates except mine by double and triple and you haven't seen anything yet. Employers added 162,000 jobs in August, lowered the interest rate because the USA is much stronger credit than it was just a short time ago. A strong country means a lower interest rate.

25:15It's a better credit. It's very simple. We should have the lowest interest rate of any country in the world like the old days without the United States agreeing to them with their big surpluses. We could stop that immediately. There would be no longer considered financially elite, lower the rate or I'll stop trading with countries with which we have a deficit, which used Supreme Court and it's ridiculous and very costly tear off decisions strongly acknowledged that President has an absolute right to do it. It's better than tariffs. Okay, so he's, yeah, he's in that mood. Thanks for your attention to this matter, President John Trump. Carol Roth who is not against the President, like not. She's pretty down the middle. She's made a lot of money in finance. She's well considered. I don't what you think of her. She wrote, sorry, this is insane. You can say we deserve a lower interest rate. But the lenders in the market say we don't and they get to make the decisions thereby set the rates with 120% plus GDP, 2 trillion deficits and interest bigger than defense spending saying strong is meaningless.

26:16And this plays into what we were just talking about the GDP trap. The always increasing trap. Is she wrong? Is this meaningless or like how do you view the President's post? No, it's not meaningless, but I mean his post is meaningless because it's just not a great jobs number, especially when you put it like any single jobs number. We've got to put it into the context of like the previous force. So you want to look at trends, right? Previous three were not good at all. This is a bit of a bounce back one, but it seems to have a really high seasonality in it. And what I will say by that is that you're in the back to school area of time, typically. And again, I don't know the data on this, but I was asked about this earlier. Yeah. Typically what you saw is the overwhelming percentage of new hires in that job report were women, which would correspond to seasonal work considering the going back to school type, you know, all that kind of stuff. So but all, no, not bad, not good, but also sitting there saying, you've got right now, you're you're looking at a GDP nowcast that is almost driven almost exclusively by deficit

27:20spending and the whole cap X on AI, OK? GDP right now is growing at an annualized pace of 4.5%. OK, you got four, you're three and a half to four percent inflation. OK, that means you're looking at nominal growth of eight to eight and a half percent this year. OK, GDP is not the issue. If you cut rates in an environment where you're growing at eight and a half percent, it will feed directly into CPI, right? Consumer prices index, right? Yes, any benefit you get on lower rates will get eaten up that fast by higher by higher prices. It's just he's talking nonsense because inflation is running hot because for spending too much money, that that's why it's you if you cut rates on top of it, you like if you want to create a like a tsunami that culminates in a giant crash, go cut rates right now. It's crazy talk. Like you've got record house and affordability, record house and affordability and CPI raging

28:23and you want to cut rates. That's insane. Like he just I think I honestly, man, I voted for the guy three times, but I just think he's looking at everything through the lens of commercial real estate where commercial real estate is really simple. Rates down are good, rates up or back. And so Trump says, wait, he got the lower rates he wanted, he'd get wiped out even worse in midterms because oil would fly higher, CPI would jump even higher. You'd probably be looking at five, six percent. I mean, you know, it's just I want to peel back and look at something you said that wait, the R GDP increase is being driven by basically two factors. You said government spending and capital expenditure on AI, investments, hiring and building data centers. Those are the two things predominantly responsible. So we're talking about made up money spending sometimes for made up jobs and we're talking about. And CapEx on companies, Zach, were like, how many, what percent ultimately succeed?

29:28Five percent? That's what's right. Yeah. Well, that's what's right. What's wrong with GDP? Like, just people need to look at I just I don't think people realize how crazy the numbers are. Okay. So look, I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but let's say over the next 12 months, okay. And I think that this is a fairly reasonable and I think it's a conservative estimate to say that AI CapEx has slated to be 1.2 to 1.5 trillion dollars. If you look at that as a percentage of the size of our economy, that's 3%. Okay. I just said that the GDP right now is expanding it for 1.5%. Our deficit is 6% of our economy. So you look at it. Now are there other factors in play? Sure. But here's the question I would ask you. If you didn't have an AI CapEx spend going on and if our deficits were running at normal historic levels, 1.5 to 2%, I think you can make a really good argument that you'd be in recession.

30:28Right. So I mean, it's just a math, right? If we're running 6% deficits of GDP and you're looking at 1.2 to 1.5 trillion in AI CapEx, there's your growth. There's all of it. Somehow, when we talk about these things, I still feel like we've built ourselves a trap based upon illusion, based upon fake money, based upon injecting what I call the conjuring of cash. I feel like we have moved so far away from what is actually real and touchable and sustainable. And I say this time and again and maybe it gets boring, but we've moved so far from the things God gave us to touch and feel and have that the further we get from that, the more trouble we get in. But that's probably me just being a silly, bitter-clinging Christian thinking that God created good things. No, but you know what's funny? It's just, it's something really, really simple that we can all see examples of in our own lives if we're being honest and if we're really being transparent, which is there

31:30is nothing, whenever you try to extract the hardship or the trials out of the process that equals success, bad things happen, right? It's, you're supposed to, there's a reason you got to till the soil and weed the field in order to get the crops to grow. And when you try to get the end result without the work, it just ends up in these places that aren't good for human beings, that aren't good for culture. And the problem is, is that once you crack the seal on that, you show everybody, hey, we can have the nice things without the hard work. So it makes it much harder to argue that people should have the hard work ethic anymore, right? They're the good work ethic or whatever the case may be. And so, and that's the problem. We decided that we didn't like the downside of free markets. That's a very, we decided that we didn't like recessions. And so we decided to cancel out the pain. And when you do that, you're going to end up in a place like we are, whereas the medicine

32:32that helped you, like so now you're at a place where, and it really is a good analogy. You are at a place where you had to administer medicine and you did to a certain degree, I think we way over did it, but you had to administer medicine to save the patient. You continued administering it so long that the patient is now hooked on the medicine. And if you pull the medicine, the patient dies. Really well said. And that's just, really well said. It sits where we're at. That's perfectly well said. And it's a great, great, great, great metaphor. Again, that's me and my friends at K Abraham, you can learn more about Zach and get his podcast at KnowYourRistPodcast.com. We'll come back under the Cyples view. I still appreciate you being here in the Disciples view podcast. And if you're going to me talk about food and nutrition, you know it takes us very, very seriously. And I have this belief that the closer we eat to the Garden of Eden, the better off we are. I was introduced to a product from Earth Echo that's called Cacalblis.

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35:45He was fired for refusing to get injected with the ridiculously dangerous and ineffective MRNA COVID shots. Dr. Christopher Rake recorded this video of himself. He was escorted out of the UCLA medical plaza in Westwood by three people on Monday after refusing to get vaccinated against coronavirus. In the video, he says he's willing to lose everything. His job, his paycheck and freedom. UCLA Health said in a statement to the LA Times that employees not working remotely must be vaccinated or be exempt. It's not clear what consequences he will face. He is now part of a lawsuit in his class action with 230,000 people. And the lawyers have clearly chosen this guy to lead, to be one of the lead plaintiffs in this. And it's a smart choice. Because as a physician, he clearly knew that these shots didn't prevent any transmission

36:49or infection. And he clearly had a safety reason for not taking a more religious reason, either is valid. And there were people who at that time, they took that stance and they were severely punished. I'll never forget talking with the nurse who had almost died. She'd been vaccinated before, prior to COVID. And she almost died. She went into anaphylactic shock. Her heart stopped. She had to be revived. She was in her hospital. She was a flora nurse. And they had to revive her and shock her back to life. And she had to spend time in that hospital for about three weeks and it was became so sick after that that she could no longer be a flora nurse. And they gave her a job working from home, looking at medical buildings and helping with medical coding. And that's what she did from her house. And the COVID shots came along. They said, you have to get these.

37:52She said, wait, I don't even go to the hospital. I'm never in there. What are you talking about? I can't get these. No, you have to get them. And she consulted her physician who worked for that same hospital group. And he wrote a note on her behalf saying, these shots contain many of the same ingredients I think caused her to have a heart attack. She can't get the shot. No, no exemption. And so she contacted me. I put her on the radio show that got a lot of coverage in conservative circles. And it was enough pressure that they relented only because she worked from home. Contrast and compare this. Dr. Briggin is one of the, is one of the, the most brave members of British parliament.

38:52He's the guy who during COVID spoke out against this stuff. He's the guy who during COVID talked about people being killed by the shots. He's the guy who during COVID talked about event 201. He's the guy who's now held hearings in British parliament where most of the members of parliament refused to attend. And yet it's person after person after person who's been injured by the shots had family members killed by the shots. They won't attend because they don't want to be able to be seen knowing these things. He points this out. 11,000 politicians and elites receive an exemption for COVID shots or so called vaccination. He says it's shocking. One of the people who got this waiver was Jacinda A. Dern. She was the dictator of New Zealand during this period of time. New Zealand was one of the places that they would actually show up at your house and seize you and take you to live in a prison tent.

39:58If you tested positive for the COVID, this literally happened. This also one of the places where they would show up at your house and imprison you. If you question the shots, there was a woman who did nothing on social media other than question the shots and the lockdowns and the masks. They came to her house and demanded she take a PCR test. As she said, I'm not sick. Ace-imthomatic transmission is not a thing. I'm not taking the test. Well, then you're going to be quarantined. They took her by force out of her house, drove her out into the desert and made her stay in a tent for about a month. It was not because they thought she had COVID. It was to punish her for speaking out. I hope God, in His infinite ways, decides to bless this lawsuit that Dr. Chris Rake is part of and potentially 230,000 other plaintiffs.

41:04And may God bless it. I'd love to see justice during our time on earth because I already know justice has been meted out in eternity because God said it would be. That means it already has happened. On this program as frustrating as it can be, given people like Jacinda and Arden, we thank the Lord for placing supposedly wise people on tall towers of shaking sand with their feature called the Tower Babylon. You know about the biblical truth of the Tower of Babel. A disciples view presents the Tower of Babel. Free fries when you get vaccinated. I got vaccinated, but there's also a burger element to this. It just rings home, isn't it? Riding people, just phenomenal. First time bites in today's Tower of Babel. There's almost always three. This is one of three. Listen to this statement from the Sean L. Harrison speaking at Socialism 2026.

42:08Black fatness is made meaningful through suffering, through surveillance and through control. And the policing of that black fat flesh anchors entire systems of governance. Without a population to discipline, there would be no BMI, no obesity epidemic, and no medical or scientific institutions organized around managing fatness. What? In case you're guessing, he is fat and black. Wow. Next time byton's today's Tower of Babel, he wants to go back to D.C. Abdul El Said. I want to ask to violently smashing a bottle of vodka on the floor at an immigrant-owned store. I walked into a gas station slash liquor store. You know the type. I was buying gatorade or something, and I bring it to the teller to pay for it. And he says, oh, you know, are you Muslim? I said, yeah, he said, well, your beard is too short.

43:09I was like, okay, you're going to judge me. Okay, give me a second. I forgot something. So I walked back, I get a fifth of vodka, and I put it on the camera. He's like, you can't buy that. I was like, you're right. You can't sell it. So I smashed it on the ground and walked out. He wants to be a leader. Oh, we all make mistakes, but breaking about it at this age. Where is the apology? Have you been back to apologize? Now those are crazy people. You know, a so-called Democratic Socialist of America type, the Sean L. Harrison, Abdul El-Sahid, hate America, but wants to lead America. Crazy people. Good thing that we've got rock ribs, solids, godfaring conservatives like Senator John Thun. Oh, John Thun? Yeah, Representative Timber-Shet had some questions for Senator John Thun.

44:10Leader Thun, the house passed Timber-Chid's bill to G.F. on the Taliban. I think it was 11 months ago. Every week that goes by, they get another $40 million. One can the American people expect to see a vote on this? Do you expect it to pass? I don't know when we don't have that on currently on the schedule here. You said it's passed in the house? Yes. Okay. I have not seen it if it's come over from the house. That's something that we consider putting on the floor at this point. Timber-Shet wants to know why. Our John Thun rock rib, godfaring conservative continues to want to fund the Taliban. Did he sound particularly anxious about that? Man, I should read that. Wait, we're funding the Taliban? No, he didn't because he knows these things. John Thun is every bit the enemy of America that this shone on El Harrison is. It just happens that John Thun is more clever. And that's a wrap for today's Tower of Babbling.

45:10That was the Tower of Babbling. I don't have anything to share with all of you at this time. And I'll just leave it down. On a disciples view. On a personal note, I'd spoken earlier in the opening monologue today about my memory of being in New York a couple of weeks before the 9-11 attacks and when the towers came down. And it reflected upon the elevator operator I met when it went up to the windows on the world and making a flight then one year after 9-11 with my dear friend Ed, we decided to fly on that day and what the pilot said. And some other things just stand out for me. I started to have conversations with Muslims on purpose. And I don't know what my desire was. Maybe to let them know I'm open to hearing from you.

46:13And maybe it was desire to not hate. And for all my failings and they are legions. I've got so many problems. Or as we say in North Idaho, I'm jacked up in so many ways. Maybe through the grace of God as he helped us overcome that jacked up in this. But one of them is not hating people because of their views. That's not a fault that Satan's able to launch into me. It's just not in me. But I started to have conversations with Muslims on purpose. And I had those occasions because there were so many Muslim cab drivers. And I remember driving into the city once with a guy who had pictures of his three daughters in the front of the cab and asked them are these your kids?

47:13And yes, these are my daughters. And talked about his hopes for his daughters. And talked about how he viewed America as the great hope for his daughters. And I said, may I ask you a question of a religious nature? I'm very curious. How do you view women who have to wear the hijab? And how do you view that? And he said, it is my great hope that one day my daughters have the choice to wear the hijab. Now, what do you hope they choose? He said, I hope they choose what Allah guides them to choose. I said, but you raise them here. Do you sure you want them in the hijab? If Allah wills it. Okay, if Allah wills it, what do you hope Allah wills?

48:14And he looked and said, you're very good at asking questions. Well, I'm happy to back off. I'm really not trying to push you. But I'm just curious. He goes, I hope my daughters choose to love themselves. And he asked me, are you Christian? I said, yes. Not the time I wasn't discipled. You know, we attended church. We donated to church. But I wasn't discipled. And he said, what does this mean to you that God desires mercy and not sacrifice? And I said, well, my understanding of the Quran is that there are sacrifices you make. He said, yes, I go, is it to earn heaven? He says, yes, yes, we work for Allah. My concept of this from a Christian perspective is that you and I cannot earn it. And that it can only be freely given as a gift. And I said, like you choose that your daughters, you hope that they choose to love themselves.

49:21I hope that I choose to let God do with me as he will because we can't earn the salvation. Interesting conversation. You know what? I don't often miss traveling, but I miss things like that. There was another occasion when the far opposite direction. Friend of mine had served in special forces capacity most of his life. He sent me a note, do you used to do business in New York? Yes. Let me know when you're back. I'm here now. I am too. We went out to dinner at a good time or head it back. The cab driver was Islamic and he was in the front of the cab speaking in his native tongue. And when we pulled over to pay the bill, my friends pretended to handle the money through the drivers. Oh, let me give you another tip. I didn't give you enough tip. He jumped in the driver's seat when the guy opened the door and grabbed his ID and screamed

50:25at him and farcey and took his ID. And the cab driver sped off and I said, what then the world was that? He goes, he was talking about more tax. My friend spoke his native tongue. May God continue to protect us, even as he continues to help us love our enemies. In the beginning was the word, the word was with God, the word was God because we believe we speak because he first loved us. We speak his word and walk in the path of Jesus to make disciples of all nations and tell God grants his permission to speak again. You have them as peace which transcend all understanding, rest upon you and your families. On behalf of Randy in AFR, I'm Todd Herman. This is Ben, a disciples view.