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0:00This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I choose option B. I'm Julie Pinero and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Listen to Solita on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I survived nine months in captivity and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are the survivor files. Every week I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable, abducted, stalked, controlled and nearly silenced.

1:00These are stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the survivor files with Elizabeth Smart on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport and Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook. Each week we talk to someone in show business and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, Adam Scott, Danny McBride, Ben Stillert and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Our hometown is not a test tube. 90 miles northeast of Nashville, a battle for the future of America plays out in one small town. Developers with right wing ties have purchased hundreds of acres of land. We need cities on a shining hill. This is our town. A podcast about what happens when a small town becomes the site of a social experiment and

2:04fights back. I guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you? Listen to our town on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're a bookshelf and you're a for you page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. Pro Society is a weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island deserve the same level of discourse. Each week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet and pop culture. With your favorite writers, book talk creators and plenty of over thought opinions. Yeah, I'm obsessed, I'm obsessed. Listen to pro society on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Ryan Leif USA lead pack 12 analyst former NFL quarterback and the number two overall pick by the chargers back in 1998.

3:04How many teams are in the pack 12? Eight football nine basketball. The opportunity to expand where are you getting the everybody wants expansion? So where are we getting other teams, other schools? I think what Teresa Gould who is the pack 12 commissioner, I think her vision has really kind of become a reality. There was a time where there were the two teams where everybody else vacated and I don't think there was a moment after she went and spoke to the president of the university where she had a plan in place. Did either one of those teams waver? If an ACC team had come in or an ACC conference would have come in or a big 12 conference would have came, I don't think Washington state or Oregon state would have left. They were going to build this new pack 12 rebranded it and released it to the public here in July. I think it's going to be highly competitive, a lot of fun. But I do think they want to keep looking outside to build the brand and build something bigger down the stretch, but right now they're really happy with the eight participants.

4:07So now we only have power four, you know, they're four power, four conferences, right? Which was make sense if it's a power for them. It's, I don't really buy into it outside the college football playoff saying this year that the four power four conference champions are going to get an automatic bid into the college football playoff. That allows for let's say the pack 12 if they're the fifth best ranked conference, which I think it is going into this season. This gives my alma mater and a lot of these teams in this conference, maybe their best chance to go to the college football playoff ever. Washington state hasn't won a championships in 2003. So this is going to give them a much better chance to get to the playoff and be a part of the conversation than they ever would have had in the old pack 12. How did we get to the point where you can go to the NFL and put on an NFL uniform and go through training camp, get cut and then be allowed to go back and play college football. So this is something I've been a little bit annoyed with the way the talking heads have

5:11been. You heard Dan Oloski go on get up and say, this is going to open up the floodgates. It's not going to open up the floodgates. He said they're going to play three years in college and get drafted in the second round and play two years and want to come back. No, that can't happen. It's now rules, five for five. Get five years to play five. This rule, which was injuncted in the courts, is being applied retroactively. So this only affects the class of 2022 of these players. None of them were drafted. They did not make a roster. They have a chance to come back and do everything else that everybody is through this five for five things. So it's not something's going to be ongoing. I don't know where the story got so out of hand this week. It just became this. Well, it's lame. Lane Kiffin. Well, because he's using it to his advantage and all these other teams should too. These are players that are due their final year of eligibility. It's not something that's going to affect it next year or the year after that. But then you even have head coaches like Steve Sykesians go on there and start talking about morality and things like that.

6:11And I'm like, are you kidding me? I mean, I don't know if they're informed at the actual. No, it's the concept of it, Ryan, that we think, oh my God, this is going to be an abilance. The floodgates are open and now we're going to have 50 guys go to the NFL, get cut and then come back and play wherever they want to. Nope, never happened. Won't happen. This is an injunction in the courts that has been retroactively instituted for these players that are due their final year of eligibility. That's it. And if they fall between these parameters and we're talking about maybe what, six, seven, eight players, like that's it. It's like the bigger conversation around all the things that make it so subjective and it's not. It's going to piss off some other coaches because guess what? That seemingly feels like a lot of these players want to come back and play for Lane Kiffon. I don't have any problem if Lane Kiffon wants to take advantage of this. Like I don't have the morality, please, you know, go on to LSU. He didn't invent this. If he takes advantage of this, then fine.

7:12I'm okay with it. I think if it was with another program and another coach that I don't think we would have this, it was like, oh, here's Lane. He'll do anything, you know, to win. If I'm in his position, it as long as my AD is fine with this and I know these kids, I would open the door if they're allowed to do this legally. Yep. Then I get it. I don't like it, but I get it. Yeah. I'm not even against it liking it. These guys did not make an NFL roster. You know, this is an opportunity for them to maybe play football for the last time and make name, image, and likeness money to help them. You know, it may be their best opportunity to do so. I think a lot of these coaches are talking about how I'm not going to give a kid who's busted his butt for seven months, give away his spot. Well, they're not giving away a spot. There's 105 roster spots. None of those have been completely met. They're going to play within this roster and I know Lane really well. Lane's having come speak to three of his programs since he was at Florida Atlantic and Ole

8:14Miss. I suspect I'll be down to bat and Roos pretty soon. I simply love the guy. I think that he has really reinvented himself. I thought we saw the best possible version of him at Ole Miss. I even told him that. I said, this is the best possible version of you. You have that at Ole Miss. But he felt like this was something he needed to do. And so I supported him on it. I didn't necessarily think it was the right move. But we'll see how it plays out. What does he have you tell his team? Well, I go in and speak to consequences. You know, a big part of it. So a huge part of it is I'm exactly where they were 25 years ago. I'm sitting in the exact same chair and I was in a much better position than all of those people in that room. I was about to be the second or first pick in the NFL draft. I give them that image. I go, how many of you would give right now? Five year career in the NFL. The second pick in the NFL draft, $31 million. The high is a trophy finalist. How many of you would give for that right now?

9:16Every single one of them raises their hand. You forget because of how poor my professional career was, how much sacrifice and how much you know, greatness went into the first 22 years of my life. It's always thrown to the side because of what the professional thing happened. People always ask me the question, do you wish you would have never played professional football? Because then you would have this great legacy. And I'm like, why would I wanted that? I wanted to be the best. I wanted to get to the NFL. It's just how it happens. It's life. But when you tell them what happened to you after football, and I don't know if they look at you like, well, that's not going to impact me. You know how kids are. You know, you're a look at you like that. They look alike. That's not going to happen to me. Yes. You know, which part I say the part where you're going to be the second pick in the NFL draft or the part where you're going to be in a prison cell? It can happen to anybody at any point. You know, we just had the young man who called into you. I mean, I'm sitting in your green room. That was 10 years ago that I came on this show. And that guy heard that that day. You talked about it just a little bit ago in your confessional about that platform.

10:19And maybe you weren't ready to talk about it, but you had me on your show. Yes. And I was talking about it. And that allowed it to grow and become something. And you then took hold of that. And now you can speak to that. So I think the impact that I am having would have never been the case if I had been a super bowl winning quarterback that didn't get that education. But would winning have kept you away from prescription drugs? I don't know. I mean, I, the failure and the judgment led to that. I didn't use it while I was playing. It was a coping mechanism like you talked about with the Tony Romo and Tiger Woods conversation. You're trying to hide something. And so I never had that problem while I was playing in college. You were never interested in I never I never took a drug. The only drug I've ever taken in my life is Vicodin.

11:20I didn't have my first drink until my 18th birthday. Probably can count on him. Two hands. How many times I've been drunk in my life? It's not competition was my drug choice. I competed at everything. And now I've found that later in life. And I was talking to Andrew Perlough back there. And I've been sober longer now than I ever was using, which is that kind of snuck up on me. How many years? 14 years. And previous in my using years, it was I think, I don't know, 12, 8 to 12, I think it was. So, you know, we're even past that point. It's not something I think about on a daily basis. It's a there's no reminder or something that you know that feeling, you know, or that you get that feeling. And then you have to like coping mechanism behavior. I think behavior is a real talent sign of that. You see old Ryan behavior, you know, entitlement, you know, you know, you know, a smell or a situation or anything. Movies was a thing for me. I would always go to movies and I would take them.

12:23You take Vicodin and go and I would disappear. You know, I would just numb myself out and just, you know, and so I always thought it was going to be hard to go see movies again. And I love to go see movies. And so when I got into treatment, one of the things that the therapist had me do was we want to a movie as a group and I got to see it in the sober environment and it was still the greatest, right? And I remembered that. And so, you know, I take my kid to the movies, my wife and I go all the time. That was the one thing I thought was going to trigger. And you find a way to get past all that stuff. And then you use the tools that you learn through the process to not be influenced by those things. And, you know, I've had a couple of surgeries since I got sober and there's been a plan in place. It's always about transparency. Telling your doctors, talking to people, my wife says I've built my house out of glass over the last 12 years. And she's got a point. Everybody knows my stuff. I'm not afraid or worried that somebody may know it.

13:27And this has zero to do with any sort of redemption for me. Like there are so many people who have been infected by the justice system, mental health, or substance use that have gone through this, conquered it and are thriving. But no one has them on the damn Patrick show. No one has them on a podcast and certainly not in the platforms. It's life. And it just was public for me. And that's it. What was that feeling like when you took a pain med for your surgery? It was great. Right? I mean, they're dangerously great. Dangerously great. Yeah. I remember how this feels. I love this. I love not feeling, you know, negative feelings, painful feelings, the things that you're supposed to feel as a human being. But you know, we just had a plan in place. You know, my wife handled them. We took them for a couple days and then we didn't think about it again. I had knee replacement surgery and I said to my wife, you know, they gave me a boatload

14:31of percussive and I said, I don't want to take it. No, I have an addictive person. I just, I said, no, I don't want to. She said, you haven't had problems with this before. I said, I know that, but this is knee replacement and I was in terrible pain. That's smart. I caved him. I said, huh, don't let me have half. Listen, they're invented for a reason, right? Yes. They're for acute physical pain. There's a reason why there's that's a me problem. That's not a pill problem. Like I used to think football was the problem. No, it's a me problem. Football was never the problem. Football gave me everything. I had to figure it out. It's why with the Tony Romo statement that we just saw, I thought it was a very good statement. I didn't need the part about having to be able to take that whole paragraph out. You don't need any of that. You chose to do this, and it's cost you this, and you're going to admit to it, and you're going to find a way to get better. It's almost like the saying when you say something but everything after the but is meaningless

15:36to me. I was reading it with my wife yesterday and I was just like, oh no, you don't have to say that part. Everybody's had surgeries. He was going through the bill of pain and pain. I play on a golf tour with him. He was always out there playing a golf tour. If you were such a pain, why the hell are you out there playing golf all the time then? That's not helping things. To your point, you could see the thing starting to unravel, being around people outside the celebrity in the game of football. Don't mask what the problem is by telling me that you've gone through surgeries. Like, say something with Tiger Woods. Yes, you're masking these things. Let me bring you back. I'm going to talk some actual football here. Let's do that. We'll continue with Ryan Leif right after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at FoxSportsRadio.com. And within the IHARDS Radio app, search FSR to listen live. If you're a bookshelf and you're a four-year page or equally important to your personality,

16:40welcome home. This is Pro's Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed. So obsessed. From best-selling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off. It's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters and that is a Trojan horse, whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations, or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to Pro's Society on the IHARDS Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and health captive for nine months.

17:42I survived and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are the survivor files. I just remember this low taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything. Every week I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up, without a doubt he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. Their stories about what it takes to make it out alive, listen to the survivor files with Elizabeth Smart on the IHARDS Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is A's Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast, Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network.

18:42Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week we talk to someone in show business, aka The Biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. I have a great guest, Sarah Sherman, not that great. Can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head? How about we flip this around? What is the surprise one, man? Actually, you think that the straight man is actually the one who is acting weird. Adam Scott. This entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never let go of that. I have. I would never set expectations for something like that. It's like if the universe allows for something like that to happen, I am open to it. I'm always going to accept. You know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah. It's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I could smell it walking on the hallway to be honest with you.

19:45I was like, is that what you need? Nope. It's fragile masculinity. Ben Stiller, no. I think there's a lot of times out of context, people don't get it, or even know what a circle is. You know what I mean? Like, girl, I go with the soul of the David. I'm everywhere. Everyone's so dumb. I'm for you. And fake. Right, fake and also not interested. Or just like, oh, I've got my life. I don't care about your life. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode. But he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus, or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I choose option B. I'm Julie Beniero, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first.

20:45I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I try to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us, not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Our town is small taters by most standards, right? But to the people who grew up here, it's everything. What happens when a quiet Tennessee town becomes the front line in a battle over the future of America? Developers with right wing ties have purchased hundreds of acres of land in the area. The first thing you see when it pops up is high nears and apple etchum.

21:46But they weren't just planning houses. We need cities on a shining hill that exemplify and embody the Christian way of life. Stop right there. Is that normal? A podcast about what happens when a small town becomes the site of a social experiment. God need that to rule. And decides to fight back. Do not use my hard work to sell your bull. They're not just opposing what's being planned for here. Our hometown is not a test too. They feel like they're standing in opposition to an entire administration. I guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you? Listen to our town on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Continuing our conversation with Ryan Leef, he's the lead pack 12 analyst for USA Sports. And he'll be in the booth on Saturday, Colorado State hosting Wyoming, the border war rivalry, 630 Eastern on USA Network.

22:46And then you got Memphis at Boise State the following week. You look at the number of teams that can win the national title. How many would you say, let's say get to a national title again. As of right now, I would argue there's many more than what we think. I don't think anybody has any idea what's about to trot onto the field this Saturday. With the way that rosters change so much in the off season, the preseason rankings are absolutely bunk in my mind. Should be ripped up completely after week one. You know, when my coogers go beat Washington and week one and Washington is a 15, you know, whatever they have 15 ranked. It get ripped up in Washington State probably should be in the top 25 then if you look at it that way. Yeah, but this is for TV. I understand why we do it. I get it. But the point about this is is that I don't think you could have any rational conclusion on how many teams are viable options for a national championship right now. But give me a ballpark. 30.

23:4630 have a chance to go to the national title. Yes, I believe so. 30 for the playoffs, not national title game. I would say you probably have... I think when you get into that playoff, you have a chance. Wait, well, are you suggesting that we could have another Indiana this year? Definitely. But who would be Indiana this year besides Indiana? Ole Miss. Okay. Ole Miss, I think Trinidad Chandler is maybe arguably the best in the business. My Heisman front runner is John Matier at Oklahoma. Maybe Oklahoma could be that team that comes out of nowhere. Because I think they have the best quarterback. Realistically, if you have the best quarterback at any level, you have a really good shot of making that. So I think there is definitely a team out there that could win the national championship that you are not talking about right now. I think Miami has a really good chance of going back to the national title. I've known him for a long time.

24:46He's been an incredible coach, a recruiter, he's back home. He got to taste a little bit of it last year. He continues to build a program that is rooted in winning. So I wouldn't be surprised at all if they're back in that realm once again. The ACC is such a foreign conference than what the other three are when you're talking about the power four. So I suspect that they could be right in the mix again. And Mensa, they get a really good quarterback who be a Heisman Trophy candidate. The number of analysts who think CJ Carr is the best quarterback in college football. Yeah, Waters Wet. They're not going out on a very far limb there to make that. But Archmaning was the anointed and even Dante Moore. But I think that you say Notre Dame, CJ Carr, I think Archmaning, Dante Moore. I think all those guys could be in that realm.

25:47Like I said, I think John Mateer is the new thing he's the best quarterback. Yeah, I think if he doesn't get hurt a year ago, there's a much different conversation being had. He was the best quarterback in college football is finally at Washington State. He just was stuck in Pullman and not playing against the right kind of opponents. So yeah, I think he's the best player. I think he's got one of the best play callers in all football and Ben Arbuckle calling in place that he's very familiar with. So they got to be good on defense and that's rent ventables area. So hopefully that makes Oklahoma. They got a difficult schedule. But yeah, that's my guy. The prep work leading up to being drafted now because these kids are programmed when they're in grade school, high school, seven on seven, all of these things. But we're getting back to quarterbacks being under center, oh, thank you. In the NFL, which I kept thinking, why would you take that away? That the defense doesn't know what I'm doing in those seven steps.

26:48If they just see me in the shotgun, I've taken away, I think a weapon of deception here. And so why are we getting back to these quarterback like Mendoza's never taken a snap under center? I've taken more snaps under center than those. Yes. So why are we getting back to quarterbacks under center? Well, I think college coaches didn't care that they weren't preparing them for the NFL. They were trying to win a national championship and get themselves paid in the process. Now these players are being paid a lot of money. So what the coaches have had to shift and pivot to is that you come play for us. Not only will you get paid this, that or the other, will make you and get you ready to be in the NFL quarterback. And to be a great NFL quarterback, you better be knowledgeable and have the ability to be under center to read a defense while you drop back and make things difficult when you run play action. That's what a pro style quarterback who has success in the NFL is able to do. But why wouldn't that help you in college if you're a coach?

27:49Because I think a lot of college coaches and I think this was stemmed by Chip Kelly. It was speed and it was basketball on turf. It was not necessarily sort of like lowly, a Marymount basketball back in the chip. I believe that if we could outrun you to the perimeter, if we could out leverage you with numbers, that was the difference. And it still is that way. I mean, when you scheme up an offense, that's what you're up against. You're running into the A gap or the B gap on the defense. And if you can get a double team and get to the linebacker and the safety all in one, you're going to have leverage. You're going to have the victory there. But when you put a quarterback under center, you and remove them from that and put them in the shotgun, especially if you put them back to the right of them or the left of them, you pretty much for a defensive coordinator. You're giving him so much leeway. Now that's why when the pistol came in, I really liked that because at least you put the back behind you in that. And you made it difficult for the defensive coordinator to scheme that up. You and the shotgun and put a run it back to one side like you are cutting the field in half in terms of what a defensive coordinator can do. And he's going to thank you in his post game speech.

28:52How did JJ McCarthy fall? Well, I think he got injured. You know, I think that I don't think he played all that bad last year to be honest with you. I don't think that they were very good offensively. Unfortunately, we're having one of the best wide receivers out there and not getting in the football. That's something else. But, you know, I think a lot of it goes into what Sam Darnel was able to do a year ago. What Daniel Jones has been able to do to guys that were on that roster and a decision by the, you know, by the Vikings organization to go with JJ McCarthy. And in the stay and age, like if you don't go out and have an immediate success, people are ready to throw you out with the bathwater. And that's just something that I don't, I don't really appreciate. I wanted a competition. Kyler clearly walked in there and wanted. I will say this. I love Ken van El Connell, but I'm telling you right now, if this team doesn't win this year with Brian Flores as the defensive coordinator, there's got to be a real conversation that maybe he's better as an offensive coordinator as a quarterback whisperer than he is. There's a guy overseeing an entire organization when this is all said and they have to win

29:56this year. It's simple. Ryan Lee, USA sports lead, Pac-12 analyst and he'll be in the booth on Saturday Colorado State in Wyoming. That'll be 630 Eastern on USA Network. And then the following week Memphis said, boys, these state. Great to see you. Thank you for sharing as always. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show weekdays at 9 a.m. Eastern 6 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the I Heart Radio app. Hey, it's Kovino and Riff from Fox Sports Radio. Now, in addition to hearing us live weekdays from 5 to 7 p.m. Eastern to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, we're excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for the show. Yep, that's right. You can now watch Kovino Enrich live on YouTube every day. All you got to do, search Kovino Enrich FSR on YouTube. Again, go to YouTube, search Kovino Enrich FSR. Check us out on YouTube, subscribe, hit that thumbs up icon and comment away. Hey, this is A's Davenport. And Sean Clements.

30:57We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the big money players network. Our show is extremely accessible to first time listeners. Each week we talk to someone in show business, aka the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Someone has a good time and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. Can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head? How about we flip this around? Okay. What is the surprise one, man? Actually, you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird. Adam Scott. Love. And in the entire time, you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never let go of that. I have. You would never set expectations for something like that. It's like if the universe allows for something like that to happen, I am open to. I'm always going to accept, you know, Danny McBride, fine.

31:57Yeah. Solve this fragile masculinity, exuding. I could smell it walking on the hallway to be honest with you. I was like, is that what you need? Nope. It's fragile masculinity. Ben stiller. No. I think there's a lot of times out of context, people don't get it or even know what a circle is. You know what I mean? Like, you're like, I go work just so stupid around. Everyone's so dumb. Ben, fake. Right. Fake and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life. I don't care about your life. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the I Heart Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and health captive for nine months. I survived and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are the survivor files.

32:58I just remember this low taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything. Every week, I'm with survivors who lived through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled and nearly silenced, but these aren't stories about what's taken from them. Their story is about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the survivor files with Elizabeth Smart on the I Heart Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I choose option B. I'm Julie Beniero and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without

34:01asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us, not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're bookshelf and you're for you page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is Pro's Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives and anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet and the

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37:09They got Cam Newton on the other side, all six foot five, and all of this funny hats. We'll see how that match up goes, but it looks like it's going to be a pretty interesting game. You know, the peach bull reached out, asked me to do this as part of the Athletic Kickoff game. I'm excited. I'm excited for Baylor this year, especially with DJ Lagway getting a chance to come home, so it was his dad's school and try to make his own mark and revive his career as a potential first round quarterback. When you're around Cam Newton and you're like, that's just different. You know, Robert, when you go, he's a quarterback and he's as big as, I mean, physically imposing. And he might have had the greatest individual season. A quarterback's ever had in college. Yeah, we talked about this before. Is it Cam Newton or is it Joe Burrow? You know what Cam was able to do in one year? Basically just one year of college football was extraordinary.

38:11You know, I look at Cam. He looks like Julius Peppers when you walk next to him. So like, it's just, it's hard to imagine like this guy was a quarterback, you know, the way that he's built. I don't know guys remember like a couple of years ago, some guys tried to jump him. Yeah. Like a seven on seven tournament. Yeah. I mean, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm going to bring more people. Because this guy, this guy, it's going to take at least seven small human beings to try to take down this one behemoth of a man. The position though, I don't, I get involved where you could be smaller, run around a little bit, frantarkington, you know, back in the day. But is there a prototypical quarterback? Because we went through those stages where we needed to have somebody with six four, six, five pocket passer. And where would you say we are today with the, if you want to call it evolution of the position? Yeah. I think there is no size height weight prototype anymore.

39:13I mean, you got Kyle Murray who's like five, three, starting for the Minnesota Vikings. You know, when I was playing, obviously you had Brady and Manning and the six, four, six, five range. I think what it comes down to, if you go out to like a local high school, you know, like an advanced level seven on seven program, you know, which we have here in Houston called RG3, seven on seven. And you watch those quarterbacks throw the ball. It's not a matter of who can make the throws anymore. The quarterback position is so advanced, the way that they work through everything. I've got high schoolers right now that are more advanced than I was throwing the football in my second year in college. So I think what it comes down is two things. One is the mental makeup of decision making. And then two, does the coach believe in you? Because they're going to give you more opportunities when they believe in you as you get into the league. But you can be five, three like Kyle Murray. You can be six, five like Cam Newton. As long as the coach believes you and puts a system in place that that you can run at a high level, I don't think there's a prototypical size weight for the quarterback anymore.

40:16I think that's why it's made developing quarterbacks in NFL such a hard line. You have to be aligned completely from the head coach, GM ownership, everybody in the building has to be bought in on that one guy. And me and you know, that's really hard to do no matter what industry you're in. It's to get everybody on the same page. I've been leading the crusade for years now. And maybe I'm fighting a losing battle. I still think having a quarterback under center gives you a better opportunity of disguising things, deception with the defense. You know, if you're going to do play action, all buy into play action. If you're under center, there's no play action if you're in the gun. So it feels like there's some NFL teams that are now using it more. Why is that? Yeah. Warren, I agree with you. It's easier to fold defense when you go when you go under center. The time between you showing that fake in the run game, snapping it back, there's just

41:22more time on task and more time between the play action fake and the actual plays that you're running for the defense to be fooled. I think because a guy like myself, when you have a quarterback who is a true, dual threat, triple threat quarterback, beach with his arm leg and his mind, that's when you can really utilize gun runs. But like I love Joe Burrow. And I think Joe Burrow is a dual threat quarterback in the sense that he's a decent scrambler. But no one's really afraid of him running a zone read. You know, it doesn't put the same stress on the defense as when Lamar Jackson does it. And I did it when Jaylen Hertz did when Cam Newton did it. It's just a different level. So I think it really applies to the quarterback that you have under center because then you can play action out of the gun because they're afraid of him running. Majority of the quarterbacks right now in the league do have athleticism, but they don't have the athleticism like Lamar Jackson.

42:23When he gets to the second level, you know, he's he's out to gate. And I think that's the true difference between gun runs and gun play action and under center. You can just do more there and you can disguise more and you can put the defense in a bind to where they don't have one and a half seconds to react. But there's a three second play action. Now you're having to cover for six to seven seconds. That's why I think it's effective. He's RG three Fox College football analyst out of pocket with RG three podcast and a Heisman winner at Baylor in 2011. If there was the NIL and transfer portal, would you have stayed at Baylor? I like to think Dan that I would have stayed at Baylor because they would have saw the value of having a young man who is a freshman, all American and and you know, opened up the the pocket book to keep a guy. And that's why I don't blame some of the newer age guys that bounce around a little bit

43:23because they're trying to take care of their families. And if the current school doesn't see them that way and isn't willing to pay them, you know, I think within a hundred thousand of what another school is willing to pay them, they should leave. You know, I told the store multiple times. I think I've told it to you as well. But Mac Brown tried to get me to transfer to Texas after my freshman year at Baylor on the field when they beat us 42 to 20 because he felt like, you know, half time I was 20 to 20 and he felt like they missed out on recruiting me because they offered me as a safety. Well, you would sell, didn't they both, yeah, were they were going to make a defensive back? They're going to make his defensive backs and they he said, you can transfer now, but you know, back then you had to sit out to the years. If you transferred, it was like, wasn't a real thing. But I just think the schools that have these players that develop them, if you want to keep them, then I think that you, you should open up your pocket books to keep them. Instead of complaining and saying, oh, well, this school is going to pay him this amount of money.

44:24It's like, well, what do you want your legacy to be? You want to be your legacy? You want your legacy to be the coach or the team that allowed your best player to go play at Miami or go play at Texas? I'm sure if they pay them the same that those schools would pay them, they'd stay and they would have a better legacy. So that's a long way of saying, I think Baylor would have seen the value and offered me the money that that would have made me stay at the university. Who was paying the most though under the table? Yeah. So, I, you know, I never got paid under the table. I got a free pizza one time in college and compliance found me two days later and made me go pay for it. So that was wild, but shout out to Baylor Compliance. Appreciate you all not letting the brother get a free pizza. They didn't give you a call. They didn't get a call. No, not a car, nothing. I know. This is why you're great at your job, and I love you. I know for a fact that the SEC was paying the most under the table, but my, my own understanding was that there were two teams outside the SEC that were paying a lot of guys under the

45:28table and it was Stanford and Florida State. How much money are we talking about? You're talking hundreds of thousands of per player. So they're spending, they were spending millions already back then doing it in unique ways. I won't get into all that. Not trying to get sued. Well, you can give me a for instance of. How can I pay you other than here you go, here's money or I'm going to give this to mom. Yeah, well, I know one of the schools, not to be too specific, but one of the schools was having the players had bank accounts and those bank accounts are set up by the school. So if they say they win, say, Florida State beats, beats Florida or Stanford beats USC, they would miraculously have $100,000 in a bank account. And that was the way that they were able to funnel money to the players without it being like true cash passing hands. Some other schools also set up like summer internships where you're not technically allowed to be paid, but they would pay them in that way.

46:31And when the NCAA is not truly paying attention, it's very easy for those schools to kind of get through the cracks and do those types of things. So when I hear a lot of people right now in our industry talking about, oh, it's the Y Y West and it's kind of pain pain. I'm like, guys, it was always. It was always the Y Y West. It's just now everyone can do it legally. And it's it's er, it's er, it's er, it's er, it's er, I would you say the depth of a lot of these teams. I know you watch the USC game, like they're winning 35 to three against San Jose State, let absolutely blow them out. The second the backups get in the game, it's like, whoa, what happened? And that's every team in college football right now and that's why we have so much parity. Yeah, I laugh when I hear that nobody, they're getting paid under the table even now. Oh, yeah. Because I can give you this on top, but I'm going to give you that, like look at, you know, quite Leonard with the clippers, if it's true, hey, you're going to get this amount of money.

47:31We're going to give you some, you know, phantom jobs here. Listen, Shaq, Shaq came out and said that when he signed with the Lakers, they gave him a deal where they also baked in like $20 million worth of movie roles. So like, like, come on, you know, I watch just them and all that, you know, it's like, like, come on, you know, this is, this has been going on for a long time and I'll be honest with you, I had heard the stories before I went to college in 2008. And one of my teammates, Jason Smith, you probably remember him, you got drafted by the Ram, second overall. He told me when we were going to play against Texas A&M, my freshman year in college, he said, hey, if we win this game, make sure you go back to your, you know, apartment and be ready for like a bag of money to be there. If we win this game, it's our biggest rival. So long, but all we beat Texas A&M, my freshman year, I am high tailing it back to the, to the apartment room.

48:31I'm like, oh, my God, this is going to be great. Nothing was there. Jason Smith was in the parking lot, filming me laughing. So like, this, this, it was a known thing that these types of things could happen. You know, I don't think Jason ever had anything happen for him, but, you know, if you got to be, you'd have to be really in a great place financially as a young man coming into college to not be like, yeah, I'll take that car. Yeah, I'll take that job. Yeah, I'll take that. And anyone that tells you that they wouldn't is lying to your face like Desion love, you know. What did that happen that a guy is convincing women that he's on the Niners and he's carrying his helmet with him all the time, Robert. Oh, yeah. I mean, he was a caricature of an NFL player. And I've just never seen any NFL player have that much time on his hands. You know, like if we're being honest football players like Dan, like yourself, you're one of the best in the industry of what you do. You just don't have a ton of time on your hands to be hanging out on social media and giving

49:32TED talks on what you should do financially. And, you know, the guy had like 27 homes. I'm like, he just, we talk about this on the podcast, me and my wife. And there's a moment when you have to understand that if a guy has to tell you that he has it, he just doesn't have it, right? Or you see, he's running past patterns on the beach, Robert, with his helmet on. Yeah. Did you see him cut off his inside foot on a jump cut, trying to run a post like come on. The man was backpedaling with the football holding it like, I don't even know how he was holding it. Like ball security was terrible. What, what DB backpedals with the holding the football like that with a big old chain on. And I don't know if you've seen his mug shot, but Lord have mercy. No wonder he was wearing a headband. This guy's got a seven head. It's crazy. Okay. Okay. Question you know you could ask somebody to determine if they were a professional football player.

50:32Oh, to determine if they're professional football. I thought the, the one question, one girl asked him about, you know, like, why, how did he make the team? And he said private workout. And then he got cut. And then he said, there's three layers of, of, of getting cut. There's the physical, the emotional and I can't remember what the other one was. That to me was a dead giveaway. Like how, how there is no three layers of cuts or waivers that you have to go through in that situation. But I just tell people, you know, that you can literally call the team. That, that's what I would tell them. Yeah, but these women probably have a phone number. Yeah, but they're probably teaming. And like, is they should let on the team? They promise you they'll pick up. They will pick up the lady at the front office will pick up and be like, let me check with you. What? Come on. Maybe they wanted to believe that he was a football player and he was interested in them. They wanted to believe they had gotten their golden ticket. Yeah.

51:33Yeah. Yeah. They, John, let's, like, come on. It sounds like a key in Pilski. They, John love. They, John love. Missed to be Baptist, junior college. You know, like, it's perfect. But man, he's, he is not a real person. He is not a real man. I was, I feel bad for the women. I do. Uh, RG three serving honorary or captain for the Baylor Bears on Saturday afternoon in Atlanta where he'll be opposite Cam Newton and the Auburn Tigers. Who is faster right now? Between you and Cam. I've always been faster than Cam. Yeah. Cam has, Cam has probably has been, you know, more massive human being since birth. Yeah. But I've always been faster than Cam. Cam knows that. Like, are you faster? We could line it up right now. I love them. We could line it up for a race. Maybe he'll, they'll spot my guys 14 points if I win the race. Who's faster down Tyree killer you? Oh, I mean, I mean Tyree kill is fast. He's hurt right now though.

52:34So I could beat him in a race right now. Okay. All right. But when he's healthy, Tyree kill like, you know, I believe in my abilities, but I'm also, you know, understanding of who's the fastest, who's the fastest player in the NFL right now? I mean, the default would be Xavier Worthy. Yeah. You know, remember what John Ross wasn't with the, the Bengals and he had like a four, four two out of Washington when, like the difference between like four, one, four, two and let's say four three, like how, how much of a difference is that? Just a, just a little, just a little bit. I would say this when you watch, when you watch the tape, like Xavier Worthy, I believe he still has the record for the 40, but I would say Rashid Shaheed from Seattle is the fastest in the NFL. Okay. Because when you, when you watch their play speed, like, and don't get me wrong, Xavier's

53:38fast, but when you watch their play speed Rashid Shaheed in my opinion with pads on runs faster. I don't know what the actual metrics are because they, you know, they track these guys speeds and whatnot, but it's not always the 40 that leads to great success in the NFL, but it certainly helps, especially if you're a special teams guy because you got to close that distance for the punter. Yeah, but I'd rather have somebody who was fast for 10 than fast for 40. I'm using 10, especially a wide receiver running back, you know, an offensive lineman or defense, like, I, it just feels like the game is really about five to seven yards of who gets there in the, you know, quickest or first. I think it all depends on the position, right? When you talk about wide receivers, you'd rather have a Justin Jefferson who's a, you know, mid four four guy, Odub Beckham Jr., mid four four guy, but when they run their routes, they're running full speed and they, and, or they're Jackson Smith and Jigba, right? Justin Smith, Jigba's not a four to guy, but he's a four mid four four guy.

54:40He might even run for three. I don't want to make him slower than he is, but like he, the way he runs his routes, you can't tell where he's going, but how did, how did Jerry race run a four six? Yeah. Well, Jerry Rice, the, I had a receiver in college named Terrence Williams, played for the Cowboys, uh, third round pick. And Terrence was a high four five guy, but he was high four five, you know, when he woke up, he was high four five with no pads on. He was high four five with pads on. He was high four five in press coverage. He was high four five in off coverage. So there's a consistency there that made it very easy to throw him the football. So Jerry Rice, in my opinion, no DB was prepared to play Jerry like he was a four three guy. So when they got ran by, they were surprised, right? You line up against Tyree Kill. Look at every DB that played Tyree Kill. Yeah. And you know, when he was twenty nine yards off, they're like, I'm not good beat. But when Jerry said like, man, Scott, I'm four six. I can press him.

55:41And then Jerry would win. So, but if you look at it then, like, what are the plays that you truly celebrate? It's the long hitting runs from the running back. The catch and runs from the wild receivers. And that's where I think the 40 does come into play. You need to have long speed, but you first have to be able to get there. So that 10 yard split, you're dead on. It's the most important figure, but you can't have a great 10 and be a five flat guy. As long as you're somewhere between four three and four six, you're okay in my book. You can be drafted. You can go be a star in the NFL. Have fun this weekend. Great to catch up with you. I was appreciate your brother. You're the best. RG3 or as McLeven says Robert Griffin, Jr. The third on the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I choose option B. I'm Julie Pinero and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first.

56:42I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I survived nine months in captivity and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are the survivor files. Every week I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable, abducted, stalked, controlled and nearly silenced. These are stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the survivor files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport and Sean Clements. We host the podcast, Hollywood Handbook. Each week we talk to someone in show business and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do

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