Team USA or Team Woke? + TPAction Endorsements

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1:02and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. I'm in Palm Beach. Blake is holding it down in Phoenix. And Blake, we get to talk about your favorite type of music next. Oh, boy. Which one? You Charlie shared your lack of appreciation. You Charlie shared a lack of appreciation from country music as somebody who grew up with cowboys all around me and ranchers. I am steeped in it, steeped in the culture, and I love it. And so I'm really excited about this next guest, Jeffrey Steele. He's a Hall of Fame songwriter. He's written hits like Cowboy and Me by Tim McGraw, Rascal Flatts, what hurts the most in my wish, Montgomery Gentry, My Town, and Hell Yeah. I mean, this guy has done some absolute bangers, some huge, huge hits. And he released a song called A Voice. And it mentions Charlie. It was a beautiful tribute to Charlie.

2:06And when he released it, I got this song sent to me by about, I'm not kidding, maybe 15, maybe 20 people saying we should have them on. So I'm going to play his song and we'll welcome Jeffrey Steele, 385. We're the coal miners, the fire fighters, the Charlie Kirk choir, all Latin art ladders, finally waking up. Yeah, we've had enough of the liars, setting the world on fire. So Jeffrey Steele, Hall of Fame songwriter, welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. It's good to have you. What an honor to be here. Thank you for having me. Well, it's an honor that you chose to honor Charlie in that way. And to just tell us, it felt like the right time to do this interview because we just had our All American Half Time show and millions tuned in. We're still working on a final number, 40, 50 million people watch that thing. We had obviously a bunch of country acts and Kid Rock even did tell you can't. So it felt like the right time to do this. Tell us what inspired you to do this song and this tribute to Charlie.

3:11Well, I mean, the message of the song speaks to what you're just talking about, the numbers you're talking about. People do feel unspoken for and we just saw it with these numbers that you've got. The song was written about me wanting to try to make a point of talking about the people that are unspoken for and the people that are always neglected in the society. And after Charlie was assassinated, I went after the song was written. I went to a hometown visual in Franklin, Tennessee, my hometown. And I showed up with a bunch of friends and there were 5,000 people in the town square overflowing with people just praying and singing. There was no statues coming down. There was no flags being lit. There was nobody cussing and screaming and fighting. It was just people praying for a better outcome and a representation of who Charlie really was. And I just as a songwriter, I was just standing there watching all of that happen. I was like, man, I've got to put this in the song. It's a Charlie crew choir out here.

4:14And I just felt like I had to go in the song. And I got thrown at me for that. I was going to say, what's the reaction been? Well, a lot of people, you're really well known in that community. I mean, if people at home don't know who you are, everybody in Nashville knows who you are. So it's a big deal. And a lot of people heard the song and the first reaction was, well, we can, we can help you with this song, but you're going to have to change a couple of the lines. I wonder which ones they want me to change. And I said, no, I can't, I can't do that because that's my job as a songwriter. I write what I see. I write the truth. And I try to represent that the best I can. And I just figured I could work this song on my own grassroots. If I couldn't get the help from the industry that was kind of frowning upon what I wrote about. So I just figured I'd try to go for it myself with the help of some people like John Rich and others. I got a few platforms where I can launch this thing and get it heard with a company, you know, a company video.

5:20And the next thing I know, I'm off to the race with a hit song on my hands because people want to hear it. People do feel like they're not spoken for it. They do need a voice. Thank you. Thank you for your courage. And I think, you know, Blake's probably going to have some thoughts on this too. You know, when we went to about, when we went set about doing the halftime show, we hit some serious pushback from venues, from not really artists. A lot of the artists were really excited to be a part of it. But then their agents and their managers would get involved and they'd be looking at dollar signs. And then there was some sort of hesitancy. Explain that piece of the industry that people maybe don't understand. So why would there be reticence to use the name Charlie Kirk in a song? Why would there be reticence to be a part of something like the halftime show? And when we push through and we get 40 to 50 million eyeballs on it, does that change things? I feel like, you know, they're pushing a narrative as hard as they can. And it started a few years ago with the national anthem and taken a knee.

6:22And the public immediately showed what they thought about that. And you've got basically a country that so many people are watching, everybody in the world is watching this game. But the American audience is so vast. And what they want to see on that field is a representation of what they feel America is. And I think I think every year this thing gets crazier, more outlandish, more sex driven, less morality, less about faith, less about country. And I just think there's quite a few hundred million Americans out there that have just said enough. We've had enough. And that was the reason to try to be a voice for those voices that are just being completely silenced by the music industry. For me to try to get this song out, I can give you a great example. The week after I released this song, Bruce Springsteen comes out with an anthem about Minneapolis. It's an anti-Trump and it's an anti-ice lyric.

7:23And it's immediately embraced and wrapped around. And it goes to number one, where my song, they won't even, they tell me it's too right wing. They can't play it on the radio. And that's what we're up against as a conservative, a musical listener. You can't find the music unless I find a way. I have to creep and crawl to find a way to get it out there to the public that really wants to hear it. And the main thing is, Andrew, everywhere I've gone playing this song live, before I released it, everywhere I went and played this song live, people are on their feet. They're just immediately on their feet cheering. And I knew that I knew that I was hitting a nerve. And so to have them push back at me and not help me promote it, it was a tough thing for a guy that's been around for 45 years. It's a tough thing, but you just have to find ways. And you know people want to hear it, so you keep pushing for the truth. That's all you can do. Blake is our resident huge, massive country fan, any thoughts Blake? I'm very glad.

8:23I'm very glad about the reaction. You were saying, Andrew, you grew up around ranchers. I grew up around a lot of ranchers too. I didn't like Charlie. I was not born with the country gene in my brain. But I'm very glad that you've shown that love for Charlie Jeffrey. I'm very glad your song is a hit for that reason. And I'm glad that all American halftime show is a hit. If people want to hear country music, they should hear country music. I just like put on rock music instead. Absolutely. And I think to put it down to put down the halftime show and to like to put down somebody's work. I mean, this is America. It's free speech. We should be able to get it all out there. Either we get all of it out there or we get none of it out there. And the one thing that Charlie was was a voice for everybody. He was a voice for everybody that felt like they didn't have a voice. That was his whole mission to bring what he knew and just try to bring some common sense to everything he spoke about.

9:23And let people have a microphone and have a voice to speak their minds. And that's really what's the basis of the song. So there was no way I couldn't include that in the song. I had to speak to him in what he did for young Americans. Good for you, Jeffrey. So how do people get the song? How do they support you? Okay. Through all the traditional means, whether it's iTunes, Spotify, all the streaming services you can go to Jefferson Steel.com. And that will link you right to it. That's probably the easiest way. But and look for me. I'll be around all around the country playing this song. But it's available. All your normal streaming Spotify, Pandora, all of them anywhere iTunes and Jefferson Steel.com. Yeah. Amen. God bless you. I mean, you're a legend in the space. And thank you for honoring our friend in the way that you have him for standing firm. Keep it his name in there. God bless you, Jeffrey. Thank you. Thank you for giving me a minute. I appreciate you guys. Thank you. For a lot of Americans, the healthcare system is reactive. You get sick first and then you wait for an appointment.

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12:26It's that every single person after they compete, after they win a medal, there's some hack with a media badge who's like, oh, does it feel awkward to compete for your evil demon fascist country? Which they'll never ask anyone in any other country. The one that's been in the news lately that stood out is freestyle skater Hunter Hess, who had some negative vibes. We'll show that clip 310. That makes emotions to represent the US right now, I think. It's a little hard. There's obviously a lot going on that I'm not the biggest fan of, and I think a lot of people aren't. If it aligns with my moral values, I feel like I'm representing it, just because I'm wearing the flag doesn't mean I represent everything that's going on in the US. So yeah, I just kind of want to do it for my friends and my family and the people that support me getting here. It's also such a rigged thing. There's an American-born skier, Eileen Goo. She competed in China, the last winter Olympics were in China.

13:26She competed in those as an American-born individual, but of Chinese descent. She's competing for China again. And she's like the perfect example, because she's opined, oh, we need legal abortion in America. We need, she supports Black Lives Matter. And anytime Chinese internal policy of any kind comes up, she's like, I do not comment on internal matters within the people of the Republic of China. Like 100% to double standard, 100% nonsense. Nobody's ever going to badger her. How do you feel about internal events in Hong Kong, or that treatment of dissidents, this or that political action by the Chinese government, which is vastly more authoritarian than anything going on under President Trump, pure nonsense. But instead of we get more of this, we have another clip. This is Skater Amber Glenn, clip 3-11. It's been a hard time for the community overall under this administration. It isn't the first time that we've had to come together as a community and trying to fight for our human rights.

14:29And now, especially, it's not just affecting the queer community, but many other communities. I hope I can use my platform and my voice throughout these games to try and encourage people to stay strong in these hard times. I know that a lot of people say you're just an athlete, like stick to your job, shut up about politics, but politics affect us all. It is something that I will not just be quiet about because it is something that affects us in our everyday lives. Deport, that's my word for them. Deport, I don't even care. It's so absurd. That clip we've played that one before, because it was from pre-before. This is so offensive to so many people, because like, can you riddle me this, like one policy from the Trump administration that is affecting LGBTQ plus IA, whatever's one policy?

15:29I guess we're rolling back some of the transgender insanity. And then the other day, because of the rule that they said, stop waving pride flags at government facilities. They took down the pride flag at the Stonewall National Monument, which I got a big kick out of, but I feel like that's the biggest atrocity. Obviously, they're not doing anything on, certainly not their right to exist or whatever hyperbolic rhetoric you'll find online. It's so offensive to me, because listen, all these people enjoy wonderful lives. They have amazing opportunities because of this country. If you can't say nothing, nothing nice, just don't say anything at all. And you're right, Blake. It's these media villains that come in and they try and bait athletes that have no media training that don't know how to kind of weave out of a stupid question. They were doing this, by the way, at the Australian Open as well. It was one guy who kept going around saying, what is it like in this terrible time in your fascist dictatorial country? And it's completely a rigged game. They're not asking anybody else this. I mean, why don't they go ask British athletes say, well, what does it feel like to have your whole country invaded by Muslims?

16:34Is it really hard to represent your country? No, no questions about that. What about the cover up of the rape gangs? No, none of it. And this is part of, you know, where victims of our own success here, and like you've probably experienced this when you travel abroad, the foreign media covers like half of their own country. And then half of their programming is just devoted to anything that's going on in America. So the entire world feels like they're entitled to opine on American domestic politics. Oh, yeah. It's, we are 100% victims of our own success. And like, and just how fascinating we are there. I've seen people joke where it's like Canadians notoriously follow, often follow American politics more than their own politics. A lot of Europeans, as you say, it's 50, 50. And I guess we're also just victims of the nature of modern sports media. If you're, if you're a sports journalist, probably no one's going to care that much about your curling athletes. Unless, oh, if you can get them to say something, bashing ice, bashing the administration, it's now a genocide worry.

17:35Which they were completely successful at. We have clip 361. But we'd be remiss if we didn't at least mention what's going on in Minnesota and what a tough time it's been for everybody. I am a lawyer, as you know, and we do the cost, we, we have a constitution. And it allows us to freedom of the press and freedom of speech. Protects us from unreasonable searches and seizures and makes it that we have to, you know, have probable cause to be pulled over. And what's happening in Minnesota is wrong. There's no shades of gray. It's clear. Yeah, you know what's, it is wrong. What's happening in Minnesota because these agitators should stop harassing law enforcement. You're done. And they really anyone can become a curler is what I got from that video. It's like, oh, it's like 45 year old lawyer looking guy. But to make sure we get this in, vice president man said a very good response to Hunter Hesse's comments that we showed a few minutes ago.

18:39We need to play that 363. Olympic athletes are unbelievable. I know the entire country is through the forum. Yes, we're going to have some Olympic athletes who pop off about politics. I feel like that happens every Olympics. My advice to them would be to try to bring the country together. And when you're representing the country, you're representing Democrats and Republicans. You're there to play a sport. And you're there to represent your country and hopefully win a medal. You're not there to pop off about politics. So when Olympic athletes enter the political arena, they should expect some pushback, but most of the Olympic athletes, whatever their politics, are doing a great job, are certainly enjoy the support of the entire country. And I think recognize that the way to bring the country together is not the show, but a foreign country and attack the president of the United States. Let me translate that for you. Shut up in dribble. That's it. That's all we want you to do. Hi folks, Andrew Colvet here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at YRIFI. You've probably been hearing me talk about YRIFI for some time now.

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20:40Tyler, welcome to the show. It's up Andrew. You know the drill. Yeah. Hey, man. So I started seeing we made a bunch of announcements about endorsements in the state of Texas. I started seeing a bunch of chatter online. Why don't you walk us through it and then we're going to go race by race. Where we're looking and how turning point actions get involved and what the audience can do to help. Yeah. So we actually just made a lot of different endorsements. You can actually go see all of turning point actions endorsements alive in real time as they come out. This is kind of peak endorsement season. Usually the first quarter of the year of the election is when a lot of endorsements are coming out. So you see a lot of different organizations making them. You know, we've been pretty judicious about our endorsements at turning point action. Most of it's based off of our scorecard. But you can go see our endorsements at tpaction.com slash endorsements. That's tpaction.com slash endorsements. And again, a lot of what we do when we make endorsements, we're making them around what their score looks like if they have a record.

21:46So our scorecard, we're pretty tough graders where we've been kind of hailed as the toughest graders. We have other issues we particularly emphasize. We have an all-encompassing scorecard. So if you go to our scorecard, we have a bunch of different issues. The key issues that we cover are typically a scorecard will cover one issue. For example, in our A's, it covers second amendment issues. R's covers American culture, big tech and free speech, border security, educational freedom, school choice, election integrity, health and medical freedom, second amendment, taxes and spending. So we kind of cover all of it. And that's what goes into our scoring for how we make endorsements. And then those that don't have a record, we give them a questionnaire to fill out. And based off of their answers that they give the questionnaire, that matches up with how the most recent voting goes. That's typically how we'll start placing endorsements with our team. But yeah, so we just made some critical endorsements in Texas and Texas statewide candidates. There's two very interesting ones.

22:52Ken Paxton, who's running for U.S. Senate, who's leading the polls right now, doing very well supported by the conservatives across the state. And then Chip Roy, who has been a member of the Freedom Caucus for AG to replace Ken Paxton. We're kind of the two big, big movers and shakers. Some other big ones. And just if we pause there, I saw people commenting. So it's sort of a well-known fact that, you know, Ken, who we endorse for Senate and Congress from Chip Roy, who we endorse for AG, have a little bit of history. People are like, I can't believe you endorse both or whatever. Listen, we're both come on the show. Both have been great patriots. Both have stood by turning point by Charlie. Is there anything you want to just say about that particular dynamic because it is something people have brought up? Yeah, I mean, everybody's got an opinion. No one's perfect in politics, right? So there's always going to be a situation when you do endorsements where, you know, somebody's, you know, upset.

23:55We don't generally wait into endorsements lightly. So again, we have a very judicious approach that we take, which is, you know, it's not you're just endorsing someone because they're friends with somebody. We look at their score. We look at their record. We look at the polling that exists right now. Do they have a chance to win? Did Blake just brought up on a recent podcast that we did? The Buckley rule, which is you want to you want to the most conservative, the most conservative that candidate has the best chance of winning. And so that's kind of that's kind of the approach that we take with things is they need to have a great, great record. They need to bring bring back a court questionnaire. They need to be recommended by people we trust. But then, you know, we kind of grill them. We talk to them. We, you know, court them, talk to them for a long time and see kind of where they end up. And based off of that, that's how we come to things. We also prioritize states that matter the most. So you'll notice on our scorecard, most of the states are swing states. And then we just started waiting into a state like Texas, which has a primary that's coming up here in the next week,

25:06or two here, where you have early ballots starting to drop. And the election is going to take place in March. So that's kind of the approach that we take with everything. Again, very judicious, very focused. No one is perfect in politics. So you're always going to have a situation where you feel like somebody has some, you know, susceptibility to lose or that they have a quality that you don't like, or a vote that they made that you don't like, or a statement that they said that you don't like, that's pretty much on both sides. You kind of, in most cases, want to find the person that aligns most with the value system and then has the most importance for us to win long term and help help the elections in 2026 and 2028. And so if you look at our statewide right now, obviously, one of our earliest endorsements, Charlie's endorsement, Andy Biggs, you know, former chairman of the Freedom Caucus here in Arizona, Byron Donald's running for Florida.

26:08We have, we have Ken Paxton on the wrong part. We have his run for US Senate on the state endorsements. Got to move that. That's supposed federal. That's supposed to be up on the federal. So they're there. It is. Yeah, they just, I think they, they, they duplicated there. But, but yeah, that's, you have Joe Lombardo running for Nevada governor. You have Bert Jones running for Georgia governor. Marsha Blackburn, obviously, has been a friend of the organization for a long time. These are kind of, we're laying out the future here. And many more will come. Congresswoman Harriet Hagueman just recently announced she's running for US Senate. So we have a couple of US Senate. We have a couple of really interesting congressional endorsements that we made. Michael Alfonzo, who will be the youngest member of Congress. This should be elected to replace Tom Tiffany and Wisconsin. Again, swing state. Great young dude. He was at America fest. Incredible, incredible talent, great family, beautiful, beautiful family.

27:11Joe Mitchell, who's in Iowa, who will again, also be one of the youngest members of Congress. So yeah, there's just some really exciting. Hope for the future. I think when you go through this and again, a great place to put your focus energy money, time, energy and to help us chase votes. Ultimately, when it comes to the end of this election, the end of this year. So there's a lot of questions about that. And I do want to just reiterate real quick. That this is we've got Michael Alfonzo and Joe Mitchell. Really, one of our focuses here at turning point action is finding that next generation of talent of next generation of conservative leaders that really can not only do a good job in Congress, but that have bright futures ahead of them wherever they choose to go, whether that's staying Congress or run for Senate or governor. So Joe Mitchell and Iowa and Michael Alfonzo are in Wisconsin are two really great shooting stars that you want to keep your eye on. And we'll have more of those coming out in the months ahead.

28:15Also, so Tyler, there's a lot of question about where turning point action is going to be deploying resources, paid staff, ballot chasing ahead of the midterms. Now we have kind of a 2028 vision for things, but we're also working on 2026. Maybe walk the audience through where we're focusing our attention the most. Yeah, so our top. So we are the only national organization in the conservative movement that has full time staff and all the swing states. So, you know, actually right now, as we're speaking, we have a training class that's over in our turning point action building that I just came from that I just spoke to where we are training up staff to be deployed to Indiana. We have we have staff that are being deployed to all the swing states in Indiana, of course, as just as a refresher, we had the individuals in the state Senate that blocked redistricting that would have given us at least another house seat in Indiana. And so that's so it's a of utmost importance to hold those people accountable. And so we have staff that are being deployed out there for candidates that are running.

29:17But then in the swing states, of course, so Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Iowa, Ohio, those are all the key states where there are key races, fundamental races and many of those states, most a majority of those states in 2026 that are crucial for us to win and set the stage for 2028 for a candidate JD Vance or a really strong Republican. That is going to come forth, of course, through the pathway, the normal pathway of Iowa, the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire where we have full time staff. So again, we're laying the ground game now and anyone getting involved with turning point action now is directly helping against set the table, lay the foundation for 2028. And this couldn't be more critical because 2028 is going to define whether we win or lose long term, specifically around the census and redistricting for 2030.

30:20If we lose the presidency in 2028 and we do not set the table correctly in 2026 and all these states, you lose 2028, you lose the country maybe for a generation. So it's really, really critical that we win. Blake, since you spent so much time in DC, I want to get into staffing. What would the implication of staffing, if you have four years of President Trump and then let's just say another four years of JD, maybe Marcos is VP, maybe you get eight years, what kind of momentum you can build from a staffing perspective? Because one of the things that's good about President Trump having a term off, so we got to kind of clear the table and bring in real, real talent, right? But it also meant that Joe Biden had four years to kind of keep staffing and replace people in the bureaucracy, which was a, which was a problem. Also, Blake breaking news here, the US House has approved rule for the Save America Act, the bill requires proof of citizenship to vote. It passed 216 to 215. The only GOP no vote was you guessed it.

31:22I'm almost certain you guessed it. Thomas Massey voted. The downfall of Thomas Massey is a very heartbreaking story and we'll have to talk about it sometime when it's all over. We should. Folks, let me tell you something straight up. I'm extremely picky about what I put in my body and what companies we support here. Blackout Coffee checks every single box. This is a family run American company roasting fresh coffee in the USA, built by people who believe in hard work, freedom, and America. No global corporations, no fake activism, no lectures, just darn good coffee made by Americans for Americans. This is coffee that actually stands for something and I drink it every day right here on the show. For morning reaper and brutal awakening to 1776 dark roasts and their 2A medium roasts, they've got something for everyone. They even have instant coffee, real blackout coffee with no machine, no mess. Just add water, stir, and you're ready to roll. Go to blackoutcoffee.com slash charlie and use code charlie for 20% off your first order.

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33:26Yeah, I mean, you have quite on the Massey thing, but this is this is obscene. How do you know against the same? Yeah, I mean, I have been this is, you know, all the arguments that have been made pro Massey. And again, we've been historically Charlie was friendly with Thomas and, you know, there's there. I think one of the best YouTube videos I've ever watched was him, you know, putting in a Tesla sell to power his off the grid house. He's such an impressive guy. He's one of him. He's incredible. You know, a poverty town in Kentucky goes to MIT Mary's high school sweetheart builds is off the grid house has his like battery powered national debt clock that he wears around a very impressive guy in a lot of ways. But I do think he's feuded with President Trump along come he feuded with him in the first term. And I do think that's warped him a bit over time, but you could offer more perspective on that. I think what happens is you just get a certain people in Congress unfortunately gets sucked into just talking to the people who fund them the most, which I think is actually antithetical to what the idea of Congress is supposed to be.

34:34The idea of Congress is supposed to be originally was that you are representative of the people certain amount of people is a lot smaller of a group of people in America at the time when it was originally devised. And you you were deeply influenced by your actual community and unfortunately congressman you have I think it's 700 and some odd thousand people that they represent. And so the reality of representing people just doesn't happen and so when you're peppered by people who talk to you the most which end up being your fundraisers and the people who give you money and the people who influence you the most or have been your ideological fan boys or fan girls. You listen to those people the most and they warp your they warp your sense of representation. And I think that that people fall prey to that on the left for sure we see that all the time obviously we see that with the entire Democrat party. But we see it happen on the right you know fairly frequently where these people just become fairly warped and inaccessible.

35:34And they just become you know full of vitriol for you know again the president or for a specific piece of legislation they get warped and then it crashes their career instead of being balanced. Which I think Thomas Massey has been balanced for most of his career and he's it's unfortunate to see him go against the same act. Yeah and I think you know you know my genuinely I felt terrible for Thomas Massey when he lost his wife. The president's been opining on true social though that his new wife is leading him down this very liberal path and who knows you know it's not really you can't really know that sort of thing. But this is that fiery exchange I was just telling you about we haven't loaded now between Attorney General Pam Pondy and Thomas Massey the floor of the house 419. Move to the next slide. Within 40 minutes you asked me a question within 40 minutes. Wexner's name was added back in 40 minutes of me catching you red handed. There was one reduction.

36:35And we invited you in. We and this guy has Trump during mid syndrome he needs to get you're a failed politician. That was the illustrious constitutional Republican action. No yeah she was mad like that they had a Wexner's name blacked out on something which evidently they knew he was there because he could call it out. And then they put it in within 40 minutes it's such a bizarre. Blake Blake they're also getting mad at the lack of red actions to they're saying it's too messy there's not enough red actions there's people on both sides of this debate. There has been such a push from grassroots on the left and the right politician on the left and the right to get this stuff out they pushed it all out based on this act that was passed. And now there's people saying not not enough red actions too many red actions so it's a complete mess either way you look at is. Massey the first politician to go downhill big time when he grew a beard.

37:35Like JD Vance got way better with the beard I feel like usually growing a beard is awesome for a politician. I think it goes either way I think it's like you know when they talk about you know women changing their hair color dramatically it's like either it's really good or really indicative of something not going well. Yeah I think that's mid that's beards for me. Yeah I don't know I'm as a beard grower myself you're doing great I'm territory we want it to be an improvement you slow rolled into it. Yes you've got you but you've gone the full like I'm trying to get you to go the full of the linen you know. Let's not go too far here yet. Before we close Andrew I just I do want to emphasize that point you mentioned why it is so important that we win because it does come down to who's staffing things in DC. And as much as we think Trump did have the chance to improve because they spent four years in the wilderness and they learned a lot from mistakes and they came out like a cannonball. The biggest loss they had was they had four years of appointments interrupted four years of Biden and then they resume and you saw this with Obama especially.

38:36A lot of consolidation happens in the second half of the administration and especially in a second term you just you have a full like a kind of generation of federal hires who are controlled by a process. And there's all these rule changes you basically need till the end of this term for President Trump to win every Supreme Court case he's going to have to win to have strong control over federal hiring and then you'll get that in the second half. So that's why all of these turning point endorsements at these turn point action endorsements matter. That's why we need them to win so that we can win in 28. It's all about consolidation. And we imagine 12 years of hiring. 12 years of hiring at the federal level. We have to in 2028 and we need people to work together. We've got to work to we got to stick together in the movement. Sign up at tpaction tpaction.com. Or on many of these stories and news you can trust go to charliekirk.com.