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Robert Jenrick, shadow justice secretary and former Tory leadership contender, joins Kamal and Camilla in the studio to discuss Labour's multi-billion pound grand plans to build four new super-prisons.
The prisons will create 14,000 new places, but Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood says we’re still going to run out of space within three years. They will also be forced through the planning process by Angela Rayner under powers that allow the objections of local towns and villages to be overruled.
Kamal and Camilla ask if forcing prisons through the planning system without properly consulting with local residents is ever a good idea.
Plus Jenrick on first-cousin marriage and whether Shamima Begum should return to the UK now that the Assad regime has fallen.
Producers: Lilian Fawcett and Georgia Coan
Senior Producer: John Cadigan
Planning Editor: Venetia Rainey
Executive Producer: Louisa Wells
Video Editor: Luke Goodsall
Social Media Producer: Niamh Walsh
Studio Operator: Meghan Searle
Editor: Camilla Tominey
Original music by Goss Studio
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