Skid Row Voter Fraud Indictment (09/10)

0:00This is an I Heart podcast guaranteed human. Can't find am 640 you're listening to the John Cobalt podcast on the I Heart radio. Hello there, can't find am 640 more stimulating talk radio. It is the John Cobalt show. Thank you for coming. We're on from three to six every day, Monday through Friday and after six o'clock. If you missed anything and I know you do John Cobalt show on demand. That's the podcast and you can find whatever it is. You didn't get the first time. We are live on X live on YouTube with video and you can subscribe or become a member on YouTube. YouTube.com slash at John Cobalt show. That's where you go to do that. I've been talking about this for a long time. Many people in California, especially those who live through the last LA election. The mayor or all primary are convinced there's voter fraud going on.

1:01Remember the Nithy Aramanskid Rose surge that pushed her ahead of Spencer Pratt at the last minute. Well, we've got some real election fraud action here because Bill Asale, the first assistant US attorney announced a federal indictment against James brass of Victorville Courtney price of Jacksonville, Florida and Jatisha, Jatisha Heron of boron, California, the three of them involved in using stolen identities of registered voters to get initiatives qualified on the ballot. Let's talk to Bill Asale and get all the details. Bill, how are you? Hey, John, doing good. How are you? Yeah. All right, Skid Row is number one of the suspect lists for areas that I think produce a lot of voter fraud, but you seem to have a specific case against real people involving a specific.

2:07Well, in this case, it's it's a signatures on initiatives. Talk about what you discovered. Yeah, look, this came to light earlier this year. You may recall James O'Keefe actually went and did a hidden camera report down in Skid Row and he saw, hey, wait a minute. There's all these shady characters down here and they're paying homeless people to sign petitions and it looked like they were signing under false names. So that's when this came to light. We opened a criminal investigation out of that. We charged Brenda Brown a few months ago. She was one of the people out there paying homeless people to register to vote. And then today we announced the grand jury indictment and we arrested Mr. Brass and his associates. And so I just want to walk through what they were doing because you need to understand that this is this is a big deal and there's a lot of money in the space. Every year, we're inundated with these ballot initiatives, dozens of them. And there's a lot of money, these companies, these political communities, they paid millions of dollars to get the required signatures to qualify something for the ballot.

3:13And you're talking about very consequential issues, right, whether it's the billionaire tax or healthcare or whatever. So in order to get something qualified, you need almost a million signatures or more. As you know, you've been involved in ballot initiatives. And so what they do is they pay for signature. I think it's upwards of $10 or more. So it's millions of dollars going to these programs and they hire people like Mr. Brass. And what Mr. Brass was doing is he wanted easy money and he wanted to meet his quota. So he went down to skid row and he had a list of registered voters names yet an app and he can pull up registered voters and he can see who signed what petition because he only gets paid if he turns in a signature for a valid registered voter. So what he would do is you would pay the homeless people a couple bucks, sign John Kobalt's name, who's ever his name on the ballot. And then he would turn that in and he would get 10 bucks and he gave the homeless person like two bucks. And that was the scheme and he was hired to collect signatures on about a dozen different ballot ballot initiatives by understanding is I believe all of them qualified for this November.

4:23And courting price and Jatisha Harron, they were hired by Brass. Yeah, he had a little company and they were sort of in associates. But he was really the ringleader for this particular team. He had a little company. Now how much was how much was he paid by these, you know, various organizations that were trying to gather signatures. So in our investigation in the diamond, we said he got over $40,000 for his role in this $30,000. So that's a lot of signatures. He gathered. John, I'm going to tell you that what we've uncovered in this is like the amount of money. So people hire up that are organizing these signature gatherers. They're making over a million dollars. Next in this business, there's a lot of money. It will think about it. There's a lot of stake these big corporations. If you're Uber, your Google's, your whoever, and you're up in a fight against Sacramento and you're going to go to the ballot box. There's a lot of money on the line. So they're willing to pay lots of money to make sure these initiatives get qualified.

5:32And they don't care how the signatures get gathered. Apparently not. So we have to prove we have to prove knowledge and intent. And so we're, you know, we're going to keep investigating. But you know, the higher up you go, the harder it is because of course they're just going to say they had no idea this was happening. They're shocked. Right. James brass at a sterling reputation in the industry. Yeah, exactly. So that's, so this is just a, it's a little window because you know, a lot of us have suspicions on things on skid row and election fraud. You know, and it does take time. I know the public is very anxious and impatient these days and I get it. But you know, this took like a good solid six months. It does take time to put these investigations together. So this gives you a little window into how these schemes are operating. And so whether it's this, whether it's homeless fraud. I mean, we're, it's a lot of work that we have here to try to peel all this back because nobody was doing it.

6:32Nobody's interested. Nobody's looking. There's no appetite for it before we got here. It, this is easy for somebody like brass to do. But it's difficult for someone like you and your team to investigate it and prove it. Yeah, think about what he was doing. He wasn't forging the signatures himself because that would be easily detected. You would, you would see like the same handwriting or whatever. So he went to pray. I mean, frankly, let's be honest. He was praying on the homeless people. Those guys will do anything for a buck or two. And so he was using them to commit the crime and good luck interviewing those people getting solid witnesses to testify against him. Right. So they're very, it's a very convenient place to engage in criminal activity for a lot of different crimes. If James O'Keefe doesn't make this video, would brass and his friends got have gotten away with it was the video the key for your prosecution. I think it's probably because I need, I need evidence before we can open up an investigation before we could do things. So unless a law enforcement agency was operating there and have seen this or if it was documented somewhere other way, reported, we probably would not have known about it.

7:53There is a place, there is a place for citizen journalism. I think it's important. Whether it's the James O'Keefe, so the Nick Shirley's, they're doing a lot of the work that people don't want to do. And you know, and it's easy to beat up a law enforcement, but it's so hard to be in law enforcement these days. They're down, their numbers are down because nobody wants to be a police officer. They're barely keeping up with the calls. Nobody stays in jail, so the criminals get right out and get right back to it. So it's a very tough environment right now for law enforcement. Yeah, and TV stations no longer have the budget and the personnel to do these kinds of things like the kind of reports David Goldstein used to do over a channel too. They would stay there. They would stake out a target for weeks. They would sit in a van at six in the morning and go on for weeks until they got enough video to do a story on the six o'clock news. And it's very time consuming. That was the most frustrating thing, John, when I was in Sacramento is the amount of consequential things going on up there and there was maybe two reporters worth.

8:55Where they're weighed up there. Maybe two. Yeah, no, all the thousands of lunatic bills that get debated. That's true right now. There's only about two reporters that we rely on constantly. Otherwise, we'd have zero information as to what's going on out there. All right. Well, I hope eventually you can crack the case of the Nithy aram and vote surge. That would be wonderful. Thank you for coming on. Thanks, thanks, Sean. All right. That is Bill Saley. He's the first assistant US attorney for the central district. He's top federal prosecutor here in the Los Angeles area. And again, without James O'Keefe, who's one of those independent journalists that that the Newsome administration is trying to shut down. We wouldn't have known about this. We will talk more when we come back. You're listening to John Cobalt on demand from KFI AM640. KFI AM640 more stimulating talk radio. The John Cobalt show.

9:59Moist line is tomorrow. We got room still still got vacancies. Oh, yeah, plenty of room. 877 moist 86. So this could be your chance this week to get on KFI 877 moist 86 with your complaints and rants and just general displeasure with the world. 877 moist 86 or the talkback feature on the I heart radio app and we'll play it twice tomorrow between 520 and 550. We just had Bill a salion. The first assistant US attorney for the central district here in California, federal prosecutor covering Los Angeles. And they have cracked another vote fraud case. Yeah, I thought there was no vote fraud. Second one, second case and James brass is the name of the leader of this group. He's 47 years old at a Victorville. Courtney Price who's 49. So these people, I wonder how long I've been in the business.

11:00And Jatisha, heron 33 of boron, they would get vagrants and they would give the vagrants stolen identities of registered voters. And then give them two or three bucks to forge the their name on a petition. One of those initiatives. Like the one to tax billionaires, right? You have a deadline to get these petitions on the ballot. Sometimes it's just a few months. Sometimes you need a million plus signatures. And this is hard to do. So they have these signature factories and you hire these. Well, criminals like James brass and his two girlfriends there. And they go around. Now they're getting 10 bucks for every signature. So this is good money for them.

12:0310 bucks, they give two or three to the vagrant, to the drug addict, to the mental patient. They keep the other $78. And you know, you that's the major contract that this guy James brass was paid $41,600 by a petition management company. The thing is there's a lot of corporations and political parties, political action committees behind all these initiatives. It's not about making your life better for the most part. It's about enriching themselves in some way by taking your money or taking somebody's money or allowing them, you know, to steal money from somewhere else. These are many of these ideas are corrupt. Well, look, look at all the propositions that let out prisoners early or didn't prosecute the prisoners at all, like prop 47.

13:04That was all paid for by petition gathering companies. Some of them were run through the legislature and those criminals. But most of these initiatives make life worse and steal money from you. That's what most of them do. And that's the way the whole, that's the way California works. And because Gavin Newsome Robb Bonta or so corrupt, they're not investigating any of this. You're going to see Karen Bass investigating any of this because their attitude is, hey, this all benefits us. This all this corruption has a strut left wing tilt. We benefit. What do we care? What do we care if the signatures are illegal, the votes are illegal. As a saintly says, it's really hard to prove without the independent journalist James O'Keefe taking video of these people actually paying the vagrants to put phony names on the petitions without that video. There's no case.

14:14And now try to take it up to the next level, the petition management company, the corporation, the political action committee who hired the petition management company. Good luck. And everybody knows this. Everybody involved in the scam knows this knows a lot more than you do. And they know you, your weakness is you believe in the system. You believe in the system, you believe in the political parties, you believe that well, there's just a few bad apples. No, it's not just a few. The whole barrel is rotten. But they know that you believe the fairy tale, which was instilled in you in second, third or fourth grade about how government should work. And that the people vote their representatives to do their business. You remember reading those books, picture books, they show little charts about how a bill becomes law. And they omitted all the money paid for that bill to become law. They omitted the lobbyists and the bribes and the late night dinners and the drinks and the hookers, right?

15:23Did you see any photo in those old picture books when we learned our first lessons about how government works, were there any drawings of the alcohol and the stakes and the hookers involved in the evening where you get the politician to do what you want? No. But because you cling to your fantasies and everybody on all sides, both parties, they cling to the fantasies. They don't exist. This is extremely corrupt, extremely dirty. And they're hiring, they're hiring people who are one step above a vagrant to get vagrants to use your identity to sign these petitions. And then what they do is they go to the vagrants and register them to vote for Nithia Ram. And that's the system we have in California. And there is because it's a one party rule, they have no intention of investigating. It took James O'Keefe to do the video,

16:31Bill Asale and his team to execute this prosecution here. And hopefully they'll get convicted. All right, we got more coming up. You're listening to John Cobalt on demand from KFI AM640. John Cobalt show welcome. And we continue every day, three to six and then after six o'clock, whatever you missed is on the podcast. John Cobalt show on demand. And we had Bill Saly on the last half hour, if you missed it, you want to hear it later because yeah, there is voter fraud here in California on Skid Row. This one was about signature gatherers hiring vagrants and giving them a few bucks to put stolen names from stolen IDs on initiative petitions. Good. You know what? I meant to mention this when I was talking about Bill. So apparently this guy James Brass, who did it, he just went online and got the names of people like us.

17:44You can do, I guess that's all public information. That which is crazy. They have public information and any, any creep, any crook can take your identity off a website and then hire the vagrant to fill out a fake petition for him. Here's another crook except this lady is not a street person. This lady is just your average high school mom. This story is really crazy. You just don't know who you're living next to. This is in Orange County in a lease of the a home. And there's a woman named Julie Molina and she's at home the other morning and just after dawn, the FBI showed up. It's 56 years old. The FBI agents are wearing flack jackets and carrying pistols. They surrounded her home and they were yelling at her through a bullhorn to come out with her hands up.

18:56She comes out the front door looking shocked. As if she didn't know that's what Greg's be up and they put her in the black sedan. Charge with four counts of wire fraud. You know what she did? She stole $411,000 from the booster club of the high school football team. $411,000 to pay her mortgage and to pay her credit card bills. But the thing is she came out and she didn't look like she was wearing Chanel. She was hiding that. It looked like unless she rated Walmart, I. But it was early in the morning. And another bill of sale, a prosecution, at least his office because he's got a big team there. She was the treasurer of an orange county nonprofit. I wonder what percentage of nonprofits in this state has somebody in the organization stealing from it.

20:01I am really suspicious of the word of the whole concept of this nonprofit thing. What a wonderful cover store. That's a nonprofit. Makes it think everybody's volunteering. Yeah, they're volunteering and they're getting hundreds of thousands or even over a million dollars in compensation. She gave herself up for 400 grand. And this organization promotes the high school football program. It's the Wolverine's football club. Aliso, Nagell High School is part of the Coppastrano Unified School District. And she did this for two years. Now her responsibility is this treasurer is to co-sign checks and make payments approved by the board and the membership. Taking the dues money and any other money that comes in. Rather than the bake sales and keep records.

21:05And what she would do is she would wire money from the bank account in Laguna Hills through federal reserve facilities in New Jersey and Texas. So she moved the money around and it would end up in an account in Santa Ana. That sounds like some kind of money laundering scheme. Do the nuisance do this? Because she she was laid on her mortgage payments for home. And then she tried to cover up the rerouting of this money by giving the board members fake treasurer reports that somehow didn't disclose that she had redirected $400,000 back to herself. How do these people know what to do? I could never come up with these things or figure this. I mean, I'm not a criminal. Duh, but still it's why you're not rich. Thanks, John. You have to be a criminal.

22:05This is a lot of competition in this state to get rich. I don't want to be a criminal. You got to stay poor. You got to break. You got to break the laws. You could probably do this if it was explained to you. She says rooting money around. I don't think that way. You got to be trust worthy and good natured. Yeah. Well, let's let's not dabber. You want to be a treasurer? Sure. Debra's good with my mouth. Not good with math. I was going to say, never is good math. And people, people trust like the goody goods in a town. I don't trust. But I don't. I should be good people. I learn this with guys. The goody goods. Starting with the priests, I would. But I went to school, I went to a Catholic school. And we had four priests at the time, a pastor and three others. And I got inside their rectory once.

23:07And with another friend, it was some kind of business, some kind of works. And I started wandering around the factory where they lived. Only Macroll. I went into their dining room or kitchen area. They were around the table. They're all drinking. There's like open bottles of whiskey. They're playing cards. There were a couple of dads I knew there. And this was your run of the mill night at the factory. Well, what about the BTK killer? I was watching a documentary about his daughter. And how this was a guy that worked in the church. He was called the dog catcher. He went after the vicious dogs. He had a family. He was this wonderful dad. Everybody loved this guy. I can't believe you brought that up because that book that I read about him had a profound effect on me and made me realize that the people who really go out of their way to be the perfect community members. It was BTK killer that really brought it home to me. Yeah, because he set up an elaborate rules.

24:08And usually you know, they run an insurance business downtown. And they they're the president of the Chamber of Commerce. And they they lecture a church on on Sundays and they're the Boy Scout leader and they coach little league and all that stuff. And it's to build this facade. So with the case the truth leaks out. It's like, oh, no, not him. I don't believe that he would never do that. It's crazy. Scariest picture I ever saw was in that book. And that guy the BTK killer because he was a cross-stresser. You should read that book. Oh, I that didn't come out. Oh, yeah. No, that was I don't know the twisted secret. I don't know if it fueled his desire to kill, but he was him dressed as a woman. And it was the most chilling photograph because he looked like neither man nor woman. He just looked like this bizarre beast. And this is after I was reading a new way to get done. I used to read a lot of books on Cyrillic. I know I know I remember you talking about that.

25:08So to show you. Oh, yeah, yeah, she read the same book. Yeah. Okay. Well, there's a new documentary that his daughter. She's a star of it's on Netflix. Boy, that's my dad was the BTK killer or something. Something you don't want to be the star of. Well, I'm using that. That's probably not the best terminology. But can you imagine being the daughter? And the family doesn't know. They did not know the wife never seems to know. I don't know how these guys pulled that off. I don't either. You know, I would know. I can't show up. Wait by five minutes. But where were you? I was out killing somebody. Why? Oh, don't say. Actually, I do say those things when I get tired of being asked, where were you? Where were you? But then she knows your. I, you know, I got the cocaine business on the side. I mean, it's Tuesday night.

26:09Oh, I forgot. Well, that should want the money. All right, Debra Mark, why these are all jokes, by the way. Yes, they are jokes. So I entertain Debra. I need, I need some good old fashioned entertainment these days. Leave it on you. You're listening to John Cobalt on demand from KFI AM640. Live everywhere on the I heart radio app. It's the John Cobalt show. And coming up after four o'clock, are you hungry? We have a nithi ramen word salad on the menu. And we will serve it up for you. A nithi ramen is fast approaching Kamala Harris status. When it comes to babbling endlessly and making no sense, especially when she's asked questions that she'd be. And we're going to be able to do that. I think the door is very, very close. So uh, OK, I think it's in real sense, especially when she's asked questions that she doesn't want to answer or does it know

27:11the answer to? And she just goes into diarium mode. I I do understand people with. But, but. I think, I think Spencer Pratt has a graph, that he posts frequently would certainly fit in that category. You can also call them overeducated fools. There's any number, but the thing is they have degrees, they have credentials, and then you hear them talk, and you listen to their ideas, and you say to yourself, God, Jesus, dumb as a rock. I'll play you her word salad coming up after four o'clock, as she tries to explain. Well, she doesn't want to explain why Los Angeles, and the voters would possibly want DSA ideology to govern this place. I'll be after four o'clock. Do you know we have two high-speed rail disasters in California? I had thought that this was this particular project was going well,

28:14but according to californiaglobe.com, it is not. It's a high-speed rail disaster, but it's not the one that we all know. This is a privately funded high-speed rail project, and I'll put privately funded in quotes, because you'll see. This is supposed to connect Rancho Cucamanga to Las Vegas, right-line west, and it's supposed to be a high-speed, fast-track, like a party train to Las Vegas that people could take. And right-line west got this thing financed, and this was supposedly the way you build high-speed rail, right? This was going to show that the private sector could do better. Well, these guys are wiping out. They owe a lot of money. They have taken out a lot of bonds, and they can't pay back the bonds. They're also constantly jacking up the ticket prices.

29:19It's now they expect it to cost $119 for standard class to go Rancho Cucamanga to Las Vegas, $133 for premium class. You can fly from Ontario to Las Vegas for $66. So if you can do a flight for $66, why would anybody pay $119 or $133 for the same trip? Also, right-line west has requested a $6 billion federal taxpayer loan to salvage the project. Bright line construction costs have nearly tripled from original estimates. What is wrong with everybody? So the high-speed rail public project is a complete bust, and this private project is a bust too. There are bonds, the money they borrow, there are bonds have been downgraded to junk status.

30:25An audit showed in April that Bright line is 5.5 billion in debt and does not have enough liquid funds to service its debt and meet other obligations. So they borrowed a lot of money, they owe a lot of money, and they don't have enough money to pay off their debts. The auditor said they have substantial doubt about Bright line west's ability to continue as a going company. And they want tax money. So we'd be funding two failed high-speed rail projects. Europe has lots of these. What's wrong? Why can't Americans build stuff? I looked this up the other day because I quoted so often every once in a while, it's like, is that really true? Is what I'm saying really true? I try to check that. And I've told you, and it is true, Empire State Building built in the early 1930s,

31:2913 months. 13 months they built a 102-story building. And here, it seems like a track through the desert would be easier, cheaper, quicker? No. So it looks like the Bright line project is going under as well. The thing is, when they run out of money, unless they're bailed up by the taxpayers, then they should not be, they'll go out of business. But with the high-speed rail that Newsom is running, it never goes out of business. They just keep stealing our tax money. All right, we come back. Nithya Rahman's word salad. Debra Mark live in the KFI 24 hour newsroom. You've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear the show live on KFI AM640 from 3 to 6 p.m. every Monday through Friday. And of course, anytime on demand on the I Heart Radio M. KFI AM640. More stimulating talk.