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Lose for keeps. Get started at noom.com. Not all customers will clinically qualify for medications. Individual results may vary. You're listening to Jason Greggershow, presented by playelberta.ca. Remember, if you gamble, use your game sense, stay within your limits, go to gamecents.ab.ca. Hey, Jay, what's going on, man? Not much. I know you were down at the orders. I was at the elks today. You know, it's a cap and skate. There's not a whole bunch going on. Was Dickinson in town yet? I didn't see him. No, it was a smaller group. There's only like, look like about 18, 19 guys here today. So there's a few guys that obviously didn't skate it. I don't think I saw our newton Hopkins, Jari went early, didn't skate with a group. So it's just a lighter day. So I did not see Dickison, but don't, you know, didn't see every guy either. You never know sometimes. Yeah, no, fair enough, but yeah, I didn't know some there yesterday.
So he might not be there. It's not, you know, it's not mandatory. You don't need to be in there that early for every day or so. I, I understand it. Um, Leon Drysettel, uh, talk today. I heard his, his comments in regards to, you know, I hate Babcock. He's a, he speaks like a straight shooter and everything like that. And like, it really seems like this. I was sensitive to players like, they feel like they need someone to, to be a taskmaster for them. And I, I don't know, like, I guess so, but I'm, I'm a little perplexed as to why that seems to be the theme. Yeah. I mean, it's certainly, you know, it's a change from Chris Noblock. The Chris Noblock was, you know, he was a softer, spoken guy. He doesn't come straight at you. He didn't, you know, are certainly with us media guys. He almost never criticized the player. I mean, almost never said negative things about one of his players. I felt like he was a more gentle touch in the room. I wasn't in the room, but, uh, I, I, more so Jay, I feel like they
just, everything that can be different than what they've had so far, they want to be different. I think they feel like all the approaches that we've done, we've tried them all, we don't have any cups yet. So we got to try to change as much as we can change. And I think that goes to the coach. I think it goes to the regular season approach. I think it's a really good bet to see them win the Pacific this year, because that's something they've never done. Yeah. I think they're just looking, Jay, to change every possible angle that they get. Yeah. And that's fair. Um, but again, like you've been in the cup two out of three years. Like it's not like they're that far off. I don't know if you need a massive change, right? Like, like the biggest thing is really close to what they are. The change should be the change should be try to try to stay healthy in the playoffs. Right? Well, probably one of the biggest factors why they didn't win the cup. Sure. Hey, listen, the hockey history is littered with teams that got to the final and just didn't have the juice. I covered that 2011 Stanley Cup with Boston and Vancouver.
Everyone in Vancouver will tell you if we had a team, we win the series. You know, they were up. They were up. What were they up to? Sorry, yeah, they're up three to two in the series. And they just had a bunch of guys got injured and they, you know, they'll tell you Boston won't say that, but Vancouver will. They said it cost them serious. Sure. You know, you can't control that though is my point that you can't. We all want to have healthy teams in round four, but you got no control over that. No, no, no, you don't, but it is, you can't overlook how much of a factor it is for any team. Right? Like it's, that's why that's what makes it so infuriating at times because, you know, a little bit of luck is that can go a significant long way to, to win in a Stanley Cup. There's no look at Carolina. Carolina gets one of the easiest rides I've ever seen. 100% of the cup last year. Yes. No, they play three teams that that never make the playoffs or have very little playoff experience and smoke right through them and like, you know, something like 13 or 14 games.
I think they lost one period of hockey to Montreal and that was it. And boom, you're healthy, you're barely played, you're in the final. And it's been the, you know, the opposite of a war of attrition. So yeah, there's a lot of luck going on out there. Hell Mark Andre Bergeron does drive that guy into into playing rollison and the orders have another Stanley Cup, right? Bad luck. Yeah, maybe, yeah, maybe, maybe, maybe, yeah, probably possibly, possibly, yeah, possibly. Um, the, uh, the green and gold, of course, I was looking like it's going to be a big crowd 30,000 plus again on, on Saturday. They've, uh, you know, today that the big focus was, you know, their first down efficiency, that's what they focused on for many weeks, their red zone play scoring touchdowns as brutal, but it's not anymore. They were four for four. I think they're 14 of their last 16 or something or 12 of the last 14. I have to double check it. But they've been very effective now in the red zone. And so I look at it and to me, the big thing to watch for a, there's two things.
The right tackle Jordan Murray's out. So Cooper comes in against arguably the best rush tandem in the CFLs. It's, it's, so that's going to be a challenge. But what can their play calling do to get them in first and short more often? They were second and long 16 times and 11 of them were 10 yards or more. Yeah. The first thing I see is their run game on first down is wholly uneffective. You know, when they're trying to, I mean, I get it. You know, my run of the ball on first down once the while, but they're getting like minus one yard, one yard, zero yards, right? To me, if you went back and looked at all those second and longs that you're stating there, how many of them started with a run play on first down? Yeah. I don't know the number, but a whole bunch. So one of the big mysteries for me is just the rank. Like he can be, have so much success.
And then he can go along stretches where he's not even getting three or four yards on a rush. He's getting like one yard or zero yards or minus yards. It's, it's really feast or famine with rank. And he has one really big quarter in a game, but they don't have a run game for the other three quarters. You know, that's, that's kind of the mystery for me and the, and the Elks run game. It's, it's not, when it's good, it's great, but it is far, far from consistent. Yes, that is, that is fair. I think to, to say that. And like there's lots of times, back like he's getting the ball and there's guys riding his face like, you know, you look at some, yeah, some of his best runs this year have come when he makes guys miss, right? And, and that's obviously, you know, that's great, but you can't rely on it all time. You do need to open up some lanes for a guy. I think is leak. No, he's done. He's on the sixth game. Well, he's on the, but they, but they brought Shondaric Powell came in and he, he, basically, I thought was, was the, was the energizer, buddy, for their offense
on that one series got them really going. And after that, their offense didn't look back. Yeah. So I mean, they still have two quality running backs here. And you know what? If you, if you don't feel like you can hand the ball off and have success, if that's what we think, you could still get the ball in those guys's hands. Like that past rush, God, we're coming at you. It's just built for a screen pass. It's built for a, you know, a play in the past to the flat. Like you, you can still get the ball in rank as hands. It pauls hands. It doesn't have to be a straight handoff. No, that is a, that is very true. Mark Spector joins us here on sports 1440. Speck a few weeks ago when, when the playoff race looked like, okay, we're in September. Now I guess it's 10 days. You're like, okay, you know what? Somebody's just got to get hot. Well, now we're at September 10th. And nobody's getting hot. Cleveland's one game over 500 Toronto's one game on a Texas. Just blew a three nothing lead. There's 15 games remaining. If you went nine and six, that probably gets you in the playoff spot at the rate
they're going. Is that what you're thinking? Nine and six. Yeah. Honestly, I think it could. Like there's no, no one's shown the ability to have an extended run here in September of any of these teams. At Edward Jones, we believe rich is about taking care of what gives your life meaning. That's why your financial advisor personalizes your plan to help you preserve your progress and create something that lasts. Let's find your rich Edward Jones member SIPC losing way can feel like a roller coaster full of ups, downs and being thrown for loops like when someone brings donuts into the office or your kids dino nuggets start giving you that look again. That's why there's no. They combine GLP ones to quiet the food noise with healthy habits that help you keep it quiet, even if you get off the meds. Their program is designed to make weight loss a smooth ride, helping you understand what drives you. So you can build better habits to not just lose weight, but keep it off. No, lose for keeps. Get started at noom.com.
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But yeah, listen, hey, listen, it's a long baseball's a long season. And we're 140 games or whatever we are into 162 game season. If you've been playing 525 ball for 140 games and all those teams have, yeah, you know, or fly basically they've been playing 500 balls. What they've been playing. Yeah. What and what world do you think you're going to play 750 ball for the last 20 games? Like, you're a 500 team. There's a group, Jason, a 500 teams. Yeah. All battling for that last wild card. That's what they all are. They're all 500 teams, man. They're okay. They're not bad. They're not that good. They're in the middle. So sure, give me, this is like a horse race. Give me a good stretch run for any of those teams. And you're going to grab that wild card. Cause it's not, it's a bit of a turtle derby. It's a derby full of 500 teams, man. Just regular average teams. Yeah. No, that's fair. And it's a, it's, it's, it's someone entertaining to watch because they find,
right now they're usually, you know, down the stretch, you're finding ways to win. These teams are finding ways to lose. Like you look at the Jays and Oakland and some of their, you know, defensive miscues and inability to just ground the ball into the, into the dirt again. And it's, it's almost comedic right now, but the thing is whoever gets in, plays Houston in the first round. And you know what Houston's record is right now, spec? It's the same as Cleveland's. So it's not like you're going to be playing another good, like, you're not playing a dumb actually, I should, they won today. So they're, they're, they're ahead of Cleveland by one game. They're 75 and 72, one extra win, right? Like, whatever. Yeah, it's based the 500 team. Yeah. So now even the white socks, whoever finishes second and third because they both only have 75 wins. You as a six seed are getting a better matchup than the both socks of the Yankees are, because they're going to face each other. Now if I'm the Jays, I, I mean, I just got to get in. I got Dylan Seas, if I, I hope that I can shape my rotation, because the first series
is the best of five, right? So, so best of three or best of five. I thought the first one is best of, who is it? Best of three might be that I'm going to double check. I think it's the best of three. And I think they're all in the same town. I think the play of the whole series. Yeah, yeah. The, the three are all like when you're the wall card. Yeah, like Toronto, be on the road. Okay. So I got Dylan Seas for one of those. I think I can win that game. I don't care who I'm playing. And I don't know if Trey is savage is coming back here. I know he's supposed to be throwing bolt pins this week. Yeah. Yeah. If. I agree, lost spec there. So all of a sudden is volume cut out. So see where it goes. When you look at the, at that race, yeah, because it goes three, five, seven, seven, is how it, it how it works. So you, uh, three, oh six, four, oh five, all the games that they're ballpark.
And then you get into the, uh, the DS and then the CS and then of course the, uh, the world series. And I think that, um, now Houston, obviously, anybody who has home field advantage is still better, but Houston funny enough, they don't even have a winning record at home this year. They're 37 and 38. They're four games above 500 on the road, but they're under 500 at home. Now Chicago, who's currently tied with you, they're actually way better at home. They're 43 and 30. They're pretty good at home. So, um, inspects back with us now. So it is, uh, it is well, because Houston, uh, with their win, now they're tied with Chicago win win. Chicago has two games in hand, but that means they, and they're, and they got to play tonight. So they're playing the pirates. So maybe the win, but you mentioned CS like, obviously he's big. So Rianno's great, right? If you have those guys, one, two spec, that's ideally what you want. Yeah. And like I say, I'm a huge fan of trade you savage. I love the way he pitches.
And I know he's been hurt. So it's been a wild card here and get it. But if he can get healthy and maybe get a starter to win this guy like I think he's, their second best pitcher behind CS, my opinions are starter. So listen, pitching wins in the fall. Come October, September, October, it's pitching and defense. And the J's have pitching looks like it looks like Vlad. He gave us about four games in a row where he was good and now he's back to not be. Oh god, buddy. It's painful watching him at the plate. But painful watching him again. He's too bad. That season's been in the dumper and it ain't coming out by looks of it. No, no, you just said, hey, if you're a team that's played 140 games and you've been 500 team, you're not suddenly like I know everybody's hoping Vlad can turn on. You know what it looks? It's like the orders, right? They thought they were going to turn it on last year in the playoffs. Right. And they got hurt. So that's part of the pistol. They never found their ground. And that's why to end this spec going back to your original point, I agree a thousand percent.
The them to win the the Pacific this year is to me. Not nothing's a foregone conclusion, but I think it's a very good chance because a, they know they realize last year that they kind of slept walk through parts of that season. No question about it. And they will want to be much better. And so they'll do that to start the year this year. Well, they've never won the division like they haven't won a division since it was the smith division 1987 1987. So I would think that that's a very reasonable goal. You know, Vegas, let's see what happens with Vegas. They played deep into the summer. The rest of this division, remember, this was the worst division in hockey last year. And you know, Saddle say is going to be better. I'm not sure if I'm going to be better. Calgary is not good at all Vancouver's worse, right? And Seattle Seattle. This isn't a very good division, Jason. You know, are the Kings better? I don't know if the Kings are better.
Well, they had not with the Fiala news today. That's not good. Oh, I didn't hear the news. What happened? Well, Fiala is, uh, he's having, uh, he's some complications from his surgery when he got hurt in the Olympics. And now he, he's not going to partake in training camp. And they're going to get an assessment on how long he's out later. Nice. So I don't need the Kings are, the Kings don't scare me a whole bunch. No, no one in the business. It does. San Jose might finish third, but there's still not a, I don't think they're a contender yet. They're not a contender yet. And, and to be honest, unless something changes, the orders of handle Vegas head to head over the last three years, exceptionally well. So the table set is, I would say to you that if this team is planning on accomplishing what it's trying to accomplish, one of the stepping stones is to win this division. Show me you can win the division, go on to the playoffs as a number one seed. Let's see where it goes from there. Spac will talk all things else tomorrow. Have a great day. All right, Jake. Waiting for your sign.
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