Remembering Rush Five Years On + The Shape of Christian Revival

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1:02and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. All right, welcome to Charlie Kirk show. It's February 17, 2026. Blake, how are you? How are we doing? Well, I mean, there's a lot of sad things in the world. There's just a lot of sad things in the world. I'm still not over Robert DuVal yesterday. I actually went back and watched a bunch of this like clips on YouTube last night. And obviously there is the newest trans shooting that came out of Rhode Island this time. We're going to unpack that. We also have Riley Gaines joining the show halfway through the hour. Then we're going to turn our attention to prop four in Utah. Got updates there. We made it across the finish line. At least we hope in the gerrymandering prop four story that we got Mike Davis in the second half of hour two. But first I want to pay homage to the great rush limbaugh. It is the five year anniversary of rush is passing.

2:02It is five months since we last Charlie and Charlie loved rush. Charlie often on this show would remember rush and would pay tribute to rush. And rush and Charlie were dear friends actually Charlie set on this show after rush is passing that rush limbaugh became a seven figure donor to the organization he did it privately and quietly that was the stipulation and upon rush rush is passing. So Catherine rushes widow gave Charlie permission to reveal that make that public as Charlie wanted to honor rush limbaugh in a very special way. And so I wanted to play just quickly here at the outset a clip from rush limbaugh describing the first time that he met Charlie Kirk 375. I don't want to jinx him. But I'm just going to tell you they brought Charlie Kirk to the golf course to meet me about a month ago. He was in town to set up this turning point thing and I spoke with him for about a half hour. This is the kind of guy that you can see really becoming big in politics as he gets older.

3:16He just has the kind that the carriage the person out of the charisma. I you may think this sounds weird, but I remember when Bill Clinton became president people were saying that they just knew Bill Clinton was going to be president someday in college he just had that kind of ambition and he impressed people in a way that he could tell you that people are saying the same things about Charlie Kirk. Did Charlie ever actually golf. Charlie hated golf. I thought so. Charlie hated golf. That was one of our great similarities. He thought it was a waste of time that men should be spending more time with their families. That is such a Charlie thing he'd be like this takes four like four hours to do. I mean you could go you could do it into maybe if it wasn't that a crowd of a force, but still it is a time consuming really would get why Charlie liked college football and it was because you could watch it while doing other things like running ampest. As I was saying, having on in the yeah, and if it's so often he'd stop look at the screen a play would happen then he move on that was Charlie's idea remember during the World Cup and he was watching on his phone in the middle of segments in the show and he would get distracted while doing the segment.

4:23Well, Rush was I'll I'll never forget when we started this show and Charlie said that you know he he aspired to be more like Rush Limbaugh and that that was sort of a northern star for Charlie. And then obviously that picture that you see on screen was Rush Limbaugh, one of our events we honored Rush with with an award down in Palm Beach. And then Rush got to introduce President Trump at one of our student action summits as well and Charlie went and picked him up picked Rush up. They drove in the car back together and had a really long talk and I just remember being very jealous I didn't get invited to go along with Charlie to go pick up Rush. But Charlie told me all about it and how amazing it was as you say he modeled himself on it and that was one of Charlie's great strengths is he had. You know we had so many mentors he had so many models and you had no shame just his the way of his way of attacking so many issues was okay well what does the best person at this do and I'll just copy them and so that's why you would see funny aspects of this like you'd always call him Barack Hussein Obama because.

5:26And I think Lady Graham is also you would have the same nicknames as Rush because Rush was one of the best at it why wouldn't he copy him yeah and well so here's to you Rush Limbaugh you are still the the goat the greatest to ever do it five years on we miss Rush Limbaugh in this movement now with Charlie gone we miss Charlie so much from this movement and. There will never be another like either of them and so we pay we pay tribute to the passing of Rush and the passion of Charlie at the same time to great friends to great patriots tightens of their generations and we miss them dearly he didn't get to be president but he got to be a profit and a martyr which are greater things yeah and he helped elect a president and so there we are story one in the in the in the can as it were. We want to turn our attention to what happened in Rhode Island. This is a terrible story at a youth hockey tournament where a trans shooter turns out to be the father Robert Dorgon he was born a male also went by Roberta Esposita that's the new euphemism that they've been using in articles he was a person who used two different names that's a new euphemism and I think you know we well listen let's just play the clip 321.

6:50So what I can say right now that we have identified the person the suspect by a birth name the birth name was Robert Dorgon we have also learned that the person does go by the name of Roberta Robert Roberta what's the difference it was even weirder because it's Dorgon but then apparently went by Roberta Esposito. So possibly I mean obviously a clearly unwell person and the daughter confirms it so 322. So yes she goes on to describe those mental health issues a little bit more. She says that he had been struggling with mental health for quite some time she said quote he was very sick.

7:57So this is a little different we wanted to talk about this of course it's horrifying but we've really been we've just last week we were saying there have been a wave of transgenders and related shootings and we said there is likely to be more. His is a little different from some of the other ones we've seen because it wasn't a young person who you know was diverted into this when they were unwell you know in high school it was. It seems like it was more of a midlife crisis type thing like which is another type but that's a threat as well and no I mean so we have images of this guy I mean obviously unwell you know Roberta this is a. Posting pictures of nails if you can put that up guys the nails like you know cosplaying as a woman wearing tank tops like a woman blue hair I mean this is this is you know you can you can feel this like Andy no post this image of this gentleman I guess you know bearing his backside.

9:05It's something was off here well I mean the most dreadful thing was just the day before someone said Tim McBride a trans person in congress as a man and he said keep bashing us but do not wonder why we go berserk yeah I was responding to a Kevin Sorbo tweet. If you're like me and are tired of random stuff getting thrown into your supplements like artificial colors and sugars you probably would love to learn more about phytonutrition phytonutrients are they naturally occurring plant nutrients found in whole foods. It's what gives them their color their taste their smell the presence of these three things is a surefire sign that you're getting real phytonutrients. Balance of nature's whole health system supplements are a value bundle that includes their fruits and veggies and fiber and spice supplements which give you 47 different ingredients of fruits vegetables spices and fibers and all of the naturally occurring phytonutrients that come with them every single day. Balance of nature takes produce through a specialized vacuum cold process that stabilizes the ingredients they are then powdered and packaged with no binders no fillers no flow agents.

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11:22But here's what's great young men are flocking back to the churches but they're not flocking back to main line denominations they're not flocking back to weak watered down professions of the Christian faith they want the high on. So no one has ever like excitedly posted like I am excited to announce that I have been baptized into you know the evangelical Lutheran Church. Yeah exactly sorry my dad's XClCA I got a dunk on them so but this is what's this is what's fascinating so they document a new report from Chapman Center and demographics and policy Dada Dada for the first time in debt decades. Pew research notes that in the US at least Christianity has stopped its nose dive as more people begin to see the efficacy and the rewards of religious faith and practice. So where are they going they are returning to orthodox faith Christian orthodox Greek orthodox Eastern orthodox those churches are booming like almost 100% increase in new converts Catholic churches conservative Catholic churches are booming.

12:27Charismatic churches are booming those are all like high octane given to me straight. The most interesting part to me is that highly educated subset because we should be frank Charlie saw evidence of revival we've seen evidence of revival but at like the big picture it's not necessarily showing up in Poland it's that the decline has stopped. And yet if you talk to people if you're in DC if you're in for example like organized conservative circles everyone can see that there is some there's like this revival that young people are joining in they're showing up a lot more people see it on the ground. And what I think you're seeing is you're seeing a big preference shift among the biggest kind of the cultural influencers things that go downstream so if this was 20 years ago you'd be saying all the highly educated are bailing on religion and then that percolates downstream it's kind of like it's actually kind of like the trans epidemic that started with a few elites and then now we're seeing it spread everywhere else.

13:29So here's the graph weekly religious attendance by education graduate degrees are actually the most likely to attend every week bachelor's degree just slightly below associates degree the lowest or high school graduates which is fascinating. Yeah it's it's almost like and you see this with a lot of scientists too a lot of scientists have found faith a lot of you know the guy who cracked the human genome devout Christian. So this it doesn't surprise me in the one sense because the gospels in the scriptures are as deep and as wide and as complex as you can go it you can take it at a 101 level which is deeply profound certainly but the deeper you go into scriptures the more tie ins the more parallels the more the richness just expands and explodes the deeper you're willing to go with it. I think there's so much there's such rising awareness of just I remember 20 years ago so much smugness because people had grown up in such a culturally Christian environment that could all be thrown away it was like irrelevant it was old fashioned you know we can use reason to do all these things.

14:38And the past 20 years have seen that total vindication of how important faith is as the scaffolding for life to make to keep everything from going to hell basically. I think there was and I think people took it for granted that the culture was sort of stable and roughly approximately Christian and therefore if you didn't participate in a weekly service for example you would still go out into the world and it would still feel approximately Christian because all of society is blessed by the Christian faith all of western society is blessed by Christian faith. People have seen families disintegration they're seeing actually it is you kind of need that like I said that faith scaffolding to really flourish to the maximum of your abilities in many cases. And I think for a lot of people that's the kernel of well if it's so much better to have faith I think that especially among the highly educated helps lead that process to well then might it be true actually and then I think that takes a lot of people into actual conversion. I think that's a story I've seen play out many times 100% and we are going to hit the CNN doc hard that there was a there's a new piece that CNN just released this morning attacking the Charlie Kirk memorial is sort of ground zero of Christian nationalism rising up as if by the way as if that was a bad if that gets to be a ground zero for any revival then God bless that memorial and we'll wear that with honor.

16:01100% and by the way our society detached from the Christian faith is like a flower in a vase it might look beautiful for a short time but if it's disconnected from the roots it will die it will wither and the same is true for the American culture for western civilization writ large that if we do not reestablish a connection with the root the tree will wither the fruit will be bad. So we need our faith so this is one of the most important positive signs that you could see in the news today that young people especially young men because I believe young women will follow young men going back to church wanting to get married wanting to have families wanting to build a life of purpose is one of the truly most positive signs that you could see in any news clipping across the landscape of the media. It's not that it won't get more press coverage is a darn shame but we are going to cover it here because it's truly important something Charlie port is life into and I'm so glad to see real clear investigations highlight this truly important development for a lot of Americans the health care system is reactive you get sick first and then you wait for an appointment then insurance decides what you're allowed to have and suddenly the medication you need is delayed or it's not available.

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18:25Riley gains welcome back to the church show good to see you how are you we're doing well we're we're covering this story though and I thought of you because you are one of the leading voices when it comes to I would say the mental illness of the trans insanity that has taken over women sports that has taken over so many aspects of our public dialogue and discourse and now we're seeing this repeated troubling. You know one after the other incidents of shootings involving trans shooters and it's kind of like when are we going to actually raise the alarm call it what it is that this is an epidemic of trans violence I wanted to get your opinion on this of how we even got here you know I said I joked with you Riley I said you're not you're not a doctor but you know you know but you've been studying this issue your your response was beautiful so maybe let's start there yeah well when we were talking on the phone today. You did you said you're not a doctor and I said well Andrew you don't have to be a doctor to understand number one the basis of the issue right gender ideology as a whole the harm that it's causing the destruction that it's causing and now what we've seen the death literal I mean how innocent lives are being prematurely taken from this planet Charlie Kirk being one of those we saw a Nashville my backyard were three little nine year olds I think three adults as well in that scenario we saw obviously what happened in

19:51Canada would happen in Minneapolis and just in Rhode Island this week this is a very destructive mental illness disease as you said epidemics social epidemic and contagion that is infecting plaguing society you don't have to be a doctor to speak to this and you ask why right which is the million dollar question but I think pretty plainly pretty simply and at least how I understand I think there's a couple routes you could go here but I think what would resonate with most people is the problem this is the problem. The problem with the affirmation model that we have been seen being used whether it's the medicalization side of things whether it's the respecting pronouns that this is the problem because think about what we are affirming by being accepting and affirming of this we are really only deepening the eventual damage that is lurking underneath the surface and I say underneath the surface because when we're talking about this demographic oftentimes these are people with underlying conditions such as

20:51depression anxiety other personality or mood disorders and those aren't the things that are being treated by these doctors or surgeons or healthcare professionals or therapists know they're being affirmed to believe that they were correct to feel as if they're born wrong and that's a horrible message that anyone of course children but even adults for that matter that's the message that they're receiving is that they're correct to feel as if they're born wrong so it's a really horrible horrible thing I'm asking prayers to the family of the victims and I think it just leads with the question of you know how many more times do we have to see this what has to be done what is the answer I can tell you what the answer is not the answer is not gun control because guess what and Canada and in Rhode Island where both of these atrocities in the past week took place there are already strict gun laws. So gun control, that would not have worked because criminals, they don't trouble themselves with the laws. Why, by enforcing gun laws, really what you're doing is keeping the guns out of hands of good

21:56people who could prevent these tragedies. So horrible. Well, Riley, yeah, and you said the family of the victims, that's his family. So he killed his son, his senior, his son was a senior in high school and the mother of his son. And I said, wow, at one point when you're talking because you basically verbatim took a line of Charlie's from 2023 after another one of these incidents had happened. I'm going to go ahead and play that clip, 378 trans people have been made into kind of the sacred cow of American politics. You can't question it. You can't criticize it. They believe they can threaten whoever they want. This is the ultimate top of the impression Olympics. How many dead kids is it going to take for us to say we've probably gone too far here and we should just ask a couple of questions. How many mass shootings have to happen where we probably say, wait a second, you know, we just calm down. Yeah, you asked the same question about how many of these incidents is it going to take before we say the most mentally unstable, unwell, upset, bitter, whatever, whatever the

23:01diagnosis is, how many incidents is it going to take before we stop pouring SSR eyes down these people? Hormone replacement therapy, this cocktail of drugs that we are giving the most unstable people in our society. Yeah. First, let me just say it's so hard to listen to a video of Charlie Kirk. Honestly, I don't know. I know some people have found comfort in watching clips of his, but I really haven't. It's been really difficult to listen and especially this clip and listening to him speak to what would ultimately and prematurely take his life, what just say a really horrible thing. But yeah, I'm talking about the SSR eyes. I think that's another reason why we haven't seen, especially those who call themselves healthcare professionals, really question, administering synthetic and unnatural chemicals and substances to those who identify as trans because it opens it, it opens the door for broader questions to those SSR eyes, SNRIs, anti-depressant medication that are overly

24:10diagnosed and overly prescribed. Now, that is not me saying that anti-depressants aren't useful and beneficial for some people, but they are being prescribed in alarming rate, especially to people among my generation. And when you look at things and going back to talking about administering these chemicals and hormones to miners or adults for that matter, when you look at the effects of something like testosterone, what that has, increased impulsivity, increased aggression, short temper, it really only magnifies the issues that are there as opposed to creating new ones or diminishing them. It magnifies those underlying things. So again, when you're talking about, which is a commonality, someone with underlying mood disorders, such as OCDs, such as bipolar disorder or abscess or ADHD, whatever it is, depression anxiety, that's what's being magnified here. And again, I think a large part of why we're seeing so many horrible tragedies committed. Yeah, and you asked a question earlier, you said, what is the solution?

25:12Well, we know the solution isn't to it affirm a disease and say, yes, you can have more and more of your own disease, your own situation. Now adults are going to choose what they're going to choose. We do have freedom in this country, they're going to choose what they're going to choose. But one of the story lines that we saw this morning that I think is tied into this when we talk about solutions is the rise in faith. And it's not, this is not the kids are not flocking back to water down Christianity. They're flocking back to the old, the good, the true, those face that have stood the test of time for millennia. And the Protestant churches may be newer, but that are preaching a strong gospel, a masculine gospel, a, you know, it just straightforward, unapologetic gospel of Jesus Christ. That I believe is what you're starting to see in culture as this pushback to this destabilization, this social, societal anarchy that we're seeing. And maybe speak to that, Riley, because you're Christian, you're seeing this with young people that you speak to. What is the mechanism?

26:12Why are people flocking back to the faith, especially young people? Well, I think when, when analyzing religion and, and I'll just speak pretty personally here, I feel a total sense of serenity and calmness and security and confidence in the stance that I've taken, despite the constant attacks or death threats that are hurled my way. And honestly, Charlie was this way too. And I think that was very evident in how he conducted himself, how he's still willing to go out there knowing that threats existed. It's because he knew that what he was fighting for was the hope and the promise of eternal life. That is the only place you will ever find satisfaction. And I think oftentimes, especially when dissecting gender ideology, these people are desperately looking for their identity. They're looking for a place to find that identity. So I know, as a Christian, that the only place that you will find pure and total satisfaction is in placing your identity in Christ. And I think a lot of, a lot of young people are becoming to understand that.

27:14They're realizing this. And in that, you're seeing a shift back to developing that relationship with Christ, seeking salvation. And a large part of that is, is the legacy that Charlie Kirk left. And honestly, like I hate talking about it like this because it seems as if, you know, in speaking of the good things that happen following Charlie's death selfishly, like I'd rather him still be here. But it was one of the consequences that we saw this revival, especially of young people going to church that Sunday after Charlie Kirk's assassination. I mean, there was no empty seat. People felt a conviction, a calling to go back to open their Bible, to maybe buy a Bible for the first time in their life. It's a really special thing, and it's, again, it's the kind of life that Charlie Kirk lived. So we're seeing a lot of inspiration in that, I think, especially in my generation. Yeah. Well said. And I'm with you, to be honest, it's hard for me to watch Charlie clips, you know, the team and the audience. I know that it means a lot to people out there to see them.

28:17But for me, it doesn't get easier. So I'm with you. Riley Gaines, thank you so much for coming. You are uniquely positioned to talk about this issue. God bless you. Keep safe. And we'll talk to you again soon. Thanks for everything you're doing out there too with our students. You're doing a great job. Yeah. Of course. Thank you too. Hi folks. Andrew Colvet here. I'd like to tell you about my friends over at YRIFI. You've probably been hearing me talk about YRIFI for some time now. We are all in with these guys. If you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're behind on your payments. Maybe you're even in default. You don't have to live in this nightmare anymore. YRIFI will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay. They tailor each loan individually. They can save you thousands of dollars and you can get your life back. We go to campuses all over America and we see student after student who's drowning in private student loan debt. Many of them don't even know how much they owe.

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30:22Yeah. So same thing. You're a Christian nationalist. If you believe anything that 90% of Americans believe it from 1776 to 1970, consider this. So CNN does a piece, Pamela Brown, who I know, talking about the radicalization of people at Charlie's Memorial, because Charlie was assassinated by a radical by, as we talked about with Riley, somebody that was animated, at least in part by his love affair with somebody that was trans. And instead of burning down the country, like the real radicals did, we held vigils and memorials and people bought bibles and they got baptized. How is that a bad thing? What are we even talking about here? So let me play the clip 384. And if you don't get as ticked off as I do watching this, I don't know. This is just really infuriating stuff, 384. Memorial service was one of the most potent examples of this shift in our culture that we're

31:25experiencing right now, where a large segment of American Christians are being activated by these ideas radicalized, by these ideas that say that they are the persecuted ones, and that they need to stand up for Christians' rights. Well, you know, Charlie did get assassinated. You do realize that whoever this guy is. What's his name? He deserves to be made a little bit famous for being an idiot. I refuse to know the names of CNN personnel. So we have a nation that was founded by Christians in quite a lot of Christians, if any. Yes. By the way, the only true form of Christianity is a radical Christianity. Because Bible verse is talking about if you're a lukewarm Christian, you will be spit out. And it's one of those books, Charlie liked Tom Holland's dominion that we, because we swim in the ocean of Christianity, even if you're not religious actually, we don't recognize

32:25how fundamentally radical Christianity was from its very beginnings, that it totally remade the moral order of the Roman Empire, of the other Europeans that converted to it, of Middle Easterners who converted to it, that everyone who ran into Christianity in the first century, the second century, the third century, for the first time, they're thinking, what in the world is this? It has to be a radical faith. It is not a faith that is just going with your completely innate passive impulses that prevailed everywhere around the world before it came along. Well, and this is the point. I mean, you look at what we talked about with the rise of Gen Z men going to church. They're going to the ancient churches that have not bent the knee to these like guys to the cultural culture of the day. They're going with things that are proudly and unapologetically preaching the full gospel, the full weight of it. They don't want a weak water down preaching style. They don't want that. That's exactly what the world offers. They don't want pseudo social sciences with a pew.

33:27That's what the world offers. They want radical Christianity that's boldly standing up for the principles of Jesus Christ and his death on the cross, risen from the dead on the third day, appearing before the apostles and then 500 and then 5,000. That's what they want. They want the full thing and they want people inspired by that faith to march into the public square and to build a world that looks more like the kingdom of God. That is the Christian faith. Let's go to the clip. Charlie, 395. John Adams, he said the Constitution was only written for a moral religious people. It was holy and adequate for the people of any other. The body politic of America was so Christian and was so Protestant that our form and structure of government was built for the people that believed in Christ our Lord. One of the reasons we're living through a constitutional crisis is that we no longer have a Christian nation but we have a Christian form of government and they're incompatible. So you cannot have liberty if you do not have a Christian population. Our little thing that we're discussing has made its way to Fox News 394.

34:30Young men report feeling culturally dislocated or villainized by progressive secular discourse regarding masculinity. Traditional forms of Christianity particularly Catholicism and orthodoxy offer a narrative of responsibility, sacrifice and hierarchy that appeals to men seeking a defined role in a fluid world. The report also breaks down weekly religious attendance by education level and those with postgraduate degrees are at 30% people with bachelor's degrees 28% Emily to add to this little bit. Okay, it's a worldwide phenomenon, 45% increase in the number of people baptized in France in the UK. They have seen 18 to 24 year olds jump from 4% believers in attending church in 2018 to 16%. But I love this. Most of this growth is concentrated among Catholics and Pentecostals, a shout out to my evangelical crowd there. 4% is what it bottomed out in the UK that what's crazy is is that they, you know, they're talking about how young men specifically feel alienated by a progressive discourse.

35:30If you show that Yahoo again, just give me this picture of this guy with his glasses saying they're being radicalized, stand up for the Christian faith. Well, what do you think is going to happen when you target pro lifers that are praying outside of abortion clinic? What do you think is going to happen when you spy on Catholics and this is this is what young men feel alienated by. That's a Karen with a beard right there talking about the rise of Christian nationalism. The rise of Christian, Christian nationalism is why we didn't burn down cities when Charlie was killed. What are they complaining about? What would you want in its place? A bunch of Antifa thugs marching in the streets throwing Molotov cocktails. What would you want in its place? More targets looted. More buildings burned. Mangioni's going around shooting that the head of the United healthcare. Is that what you really want? I just don't understand what they're so upset about. This country is a Christian nation was founded by Christians as Charlie said.

36:33And guess what? Western civilization is defined by one through line Christianity. You are blessed by Christianity CNN. You are blessed by the fact that Christians are still driven to lead purposeful lives and get into politics, to get into business, to have families. If they don't like Christian nationalism, they are not going to like, why that ever comes out. Islamic nationalism. Is that what you want? I don't think you want that. All right. So we actually have a clip of Charlie being called a Christian nationalist by a student during a proven wrong debate. Let's go ahead and play. Cut. Number 404. Christian nationalism, I do not agree with at all. I think it's antithetical to the values of the early church. And I think how do you reconcile the, especially white Christians in this American marrying politics and power with their faith in this country? There's a lot there. I've never described myself as a Christian nationalist.

37:35So I'm a Christian and a nationalist. So I never use those two. And then right there, that and nationalist, where in the scriptures does a Christian? Thank you. Jeremiah 297. Demand the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare. Beautiful answer. It's true. We are called to support the nation state. It was God that defined the boundary lines of the nations. And you know, render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, render unto God what is God. I mean, there's God loves order. And this is, you know, a lot of these people that don't believe in, you know, being proudly nationalistic or patriotic, I see them as basically bleeding into the same concept. What the left wants to do is create a boogie man that never existed until they sort of invented the term. And then they use it as a, as a cudgel to try and, and scare you and, and make you distance yourself from it. Well, listen, we're Christians and we love our nation. It's not much more to it than that. Simple as. For more on many of these stories and news, you can trust.

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