PM Show Hr 2 | Charlie Was Silenced Because His Message was So Beautiful

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1:08It's that time. Time. Time. Lock and load. The Michael Vary show is on the air. Swing low. Swing low. Sweech area. Come in, for to carry me on. Swing low. Sweech area. Come in, for to carry me on. He built Turning Point USA from a two-man startup into an $85 million youth political machine. Became one of the most listened to voices in America. A kid from Prospect, High Tillinoi, Eagle Scout, turned down by West Point, one semester of community college, and no degree.

2:09And he tell you so himself, standing at a folding table in the middle of a hostile campus, handing the microphones to the loudest 19-year-old in the crowd. 2,000 chapters. Three hours of live radio a day. Three quarters of a million downloads a day. By 2021, he wasn't only building campus chapters. He was building Turning Point Faith, taking the whole operation into the churches. Because he decided the country's trouble was never really political. He said we were in a constitutional crisis for one reason. We were no longer a Christian nation. And every Friday night, the phone went off until sundown Saturday. The rest of the week belonged to the country. That day belonged to his wife and his two babies. A hundred thousand people came to his memorial. It looked less like a funeral than a worship service. In the week after his death, 32,000 young people asked to start a chapter. Today, his college chapters have nearly tripled.

3:12His high school clubs are up almost 600%. And this Sunday, the movement he left behind is asking Christians across America to do one thing. Bring somebody to church. Charlie Kirk was assassinated one year ago today. It was a year ago on this day, September 2, that Charles James Kirk, known to the world as Charlie Kirk, was assassinated. It was not simply murdered. He was assassinated. He was silenced. And a lot of people held out hope that this would change America, that this would be the representation that it went too far.

4:15I did not hold out that hope. But let me talk about two things. Number one is who Charlie Kirk was and what he represented. And then I want to talk about our nation's reaction to that. I'll start with Charlie Kirk. You know his biography. I don't need to tell you that part. He was a prodigy. We all, it's funny because my kids are now 19 and 20, they're at college. So I've been for years seeing postings on social media, friends of mine, and they were at college with their kid and moving them in and moving them out and graduation and first job and we weren't there yet. But I saw a lot of those. It's kind of a generationally. And now we're at that stage. And I'm seeing a lot of my friends who have their kids coming up through youth sports. And they're posting as I posted because their kid ran for a 50 yard touchdown or their

5:19kid hit a home run or their kid pitched a shut out. And you can tell by the tone they think they might have the next great on their hands. And we all do and it's fun. It's fun. It's a part of life. You're so proud your kid went three for three and scored the game winning run. And that's fun. It's family time. It's an artificial way to spend family time because I'll tell you, I grew up in youth sports. I raised my kids in youth sports. You will spend more time with your kids taking them to and from cheer practice, baseball practice, football practice, basketball practice, golf lessons. You will spend more time taking your kids and watching your kids and taking them home. But I mean one-on-one conversation time around sports, typically then you will do anything else. Now my mom's my mom, my wife's a tiger mom. So she also spends a lot of time with the kids doing homework, always has.

6:19Still talks to them about what their assignments are. Still kind of stays on top of hey, let's make sure you're, you know, we don't miss classes, we do this, we do this. But youth sports are very, very, very healthy. I want to say what Charlie Kirk did. So we talk about a prodigy because Charlie Kirk was a true prodigy. He peaked very early, I don't know, we don't say peaked. He shined on a spectacular level very early, so much so that he caught Rush Limbaugh's attention. He was a child, a kid I would say, at the point that he was talking to national leaders in our country. He was all the while doing what a lot, that's why a band, often a band will have as their sophomore album, their second album. By the way, the midterm convention is going on tonight, President Trump is speaking, it's

7:21going on right now. President Trump is speaking, Charlie, JD Vance is speaking, I wish Charlie Kirk was speaking. JD Vance is speaking, that is going on tonight. So I want to make sure that you do not miss that. It is a great opportunity to share our message. And you may say, well, I already know the message. It's why we as Christians go to revival. Sometimes we just need to be fired up again. We just need to nourish our energy a little. Our wood gets a little wet as Ted Cruz's dad Rafael, who was a long-term pastor, said, sometimes you would get a little wet. And sometimes it's good to rekindle that. But Charlie Kirk, what made him special in my mind, was that although he became famous at an insanely young age, you see a band, they'll have, you know, their whole body of work

8:25leads up to, you know, 21, 22 and they release this album, the whole world says they're great. And they have nothing, they can't reload. They have nothing left in the tank because they spend, it's happened to the Beastie boys. They spend a year touring behind it and doing interviews and being told they're great, but they're not creating new content. Here's what Charlie did. While he was becoming and became famous, he was still reading his Bible. He was still reading classical, not that small, classical liberal economics, which means Hayek, which means going back to the basics so that he was well grounded and he was reading his Bible. And he continued to grow beyond at a young age, which is hard to do. And as he's building a family, he continued to grow as an individual intellectually and to build upon those experiences. He had to be silenced because his message was so beautiful.

9:27We will talk about Charlie Kirk and a lot more coming up. You've got the Michael Berry show. So what made Charlie Kirk special, it's the one year anniversary of his assassination. What made Charlie Kirk special was a couple of things. He really kind of shot to the forefront out of doing these, Stephen Crowder did something similar, which has changed my mind. Sit out with a coffee cup and a stand, change my mind, men or not women. But Charlie did it at a very high level. And that's not to criticize Crowder. I think Crowder's bit is a brilliant bit. I think the guy gets it. He really gets showmanship. And he's a smart guy. And I understand others have done debates, firing line, going back to Bill Buckley and the debates. But Charlie really reveled in going to university campuses and standing there.

10:31And a lot of people think of it as a competition, a battle. Because people would always tell me, you know, he whipped them. They tried to beat him, but he whipped them. Well, I've never viewed any of this as a sport. I mean, for fun, I'll do. But what really matters, that's not why Charlie Kirk was there. That's not what his heart put on him. That's not what the Lord put on him as to why he should be there. He was there to engage, to show young people your anger, your resentment, your half-baked views. I want to hear them. I want to give you a chance to express them. I want to give you an audience of your peers and a guy that you know is famous. That's why you came out here. And I'm going to attempt to dispel those. But I'm going to show you the respect to listen to your views.

11:38Having a 19 and 20-year-old two kids in college, I have come to learn in its humility, which is a struggle for me. Sometimes people just want to be heard. They don't want their problems solved. They don't want combat. Sometimes they just want to be heard. Young people are developing their minds, but they're also developing physically, hormonally. They're scared. They're scared of the changes in the world. They're being fed fear, because fear sells and fear is everywhere. When you are uncertain, fear is very easy to penetrate your mind, every sin you of your thoughts. Young people are scared. There are on the university campus, and they're going to class, they're trying to figure out, who am I going to be, what am I going to do for a living?

12:41They're being told there won't be any jobs left, because AI is going to replace them. They're being told Trump is killing everybody, and we're being mean, and we're not seasoned. The illegal immigrants are the Jews, and they're being put in concentration camps and burned to death, and we're killing everybody around the world. Nobody has anything except for a handful of really rich old white guys. They're being fed this over and over and over again by people we paid a lot of money for them to go listen to, and we told to respect their teachers. Because let's be honest, we can talk all we want in the abstract about how whack job professors are, but we send our kids to university and spend a lot of money doing it. And yes, there are the trappings, there are the fraternities and the sororities, there are the parties, there's the being on campus, there's not having to work a day job, there's all these different things, right? There's this lifestyle, the life of Riley. We told them we go to these classes and learn something, and what they're learning is polluting

13:42their minds, and we've got to change that. And I think University of Texas is making a change. I think Brandon Craton, under Chancellor Davis, or President Davis, Texas Tech University is making massive changes under Brandon Craton, and I've hated him in the past, but I think Texas A&M is making great strides. I think the University of Houston, under Ray Newcotaurus, making great strides. I think universities around the country, to varying degrees, are recognizing the winds of change, and they cannot continue to be crazy anymore. But Charney went to that place, and he talked to those students as they walked out of class, as they were told that people like him are basically himmler, that they are assassins of decency, and stealers of people's lands, and rapers and pillagers of innocent women who just want to have multiple abortions or strangle their three children.

14:44And there he stood with a smile on his face, and a Christian disposition, not a showy disposition, not the sadgesies on high, look at us we are righteous. He bowed his knee in Christian's application, and came to the campus to meet these students where they were, literally where they were, and he let them go first. They came loaded for bear, they'd tell him he hated black people, and he hated minorities, and he hated immigrants, and he hated the transgenders, and he hated the homos, and he hated the foreigners, and he hated the women, and he would sit there, he'd hold his mic down about mid-chest, and he would listen. And then he would say, I don't hate you, I love you, I disapprove of your positions,

15:49your lifestyle, but I love you, I pray for you. And it was disarming, and it was powerful, and it was humble, and it was beautiful. And that's why they killed him, that's why they killed him. This wasn't the death penalty as a punishment for taking the life of another. This was becoming too powerful, he did not have an office in that sense, a political office, or this is becoming too powerful because of who you are. I'm not saying he was Jesus Christ, but that is Christlike, that's why he had to die. A shocking crime and a cover-up at the highest levels of the United States Marine Corps. Someone opened the door and was the primary sugar. Is it possible you could do that and then suppress the memory? A new podcast series, Fault Line Haditha, tells the story the United States government wants

16:50to keep buried. How can you not know? There were women and children in there. You can tell us here that you don't know what happened that day? Based on thousands of pages of previously classified documents, and over a hundred hours, of secretly filmed video. The truth about one of the most infamous crimes in Marine Corps history can finally be told. If you've got five players and one of them is guilty of murder at least, and you offer immunity to the other four, you better be right about the fifth because if you're not, then you've just given immunity to your color. Listen to Fault Line Haditha on the Lie Heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Turn your phone off for one day. No contact, no social media, no work, your mental health will improve dramatically. So every Friday night, I take a Jewish Sabbath, turn off my phone, Friday night to Saturday night. The world cannot reach me and I get nothing from the world. It will bless you infinitely. And I could be traveling for five or six days, but if I at least get one good Sabbath

17:54with my family, it charges all back up. When he turns his phone off and it goes in that drawer, he's all on for the family. There is no distractions and he finally gets to reset his brain. He finally gets to breathe. And as a wife, there is nothing more precious than my husband's sanity when it comes to everything that he's dealing with in his world. So I have seen it change him and impact our family in one of the most beautiful ways. And it's made our family much tighter knit. And it says very clearly in the scriptures, for six days you shall work and the seventh day you shall rest. It was important enough that God put it as one of the ten commandments and God rested after creation. Go back to God's natural rhythm. That is a day to go be with God and be out of the busyness and the hurryedness and noise of this world. Shortly after Charlie Kirk was assassinated, I spoke at a turning point event.

18:57And I have for years turned down speaking engagements. I used to give speaking engagements all over the country. And I would do my show out of a hotel room. And I made really good money. It turns out organizations won a featured speaker who can draw people to the event. And I made really good money. And the reason I did it was I would tell the kids, whatever money I make on speeches, will be play money for us. Because if Daddy's gone from you, I hate to travel. The problem is you speak for 30 minutes or an hour and you travel a whole day to get there and a whole day getting back and I'm coordinating my show around it. And I only have limited. It was just awful. But anyway, back to the point, I did agree. I've started giving speeches again since the kids are off of college. But I did agree to give a speech because it was turning point USA.

20:04And Ken Paxton, who is our attorney general, is the best attorney general in the country. And he's done a lot of things that have meant a lot to me. He went after Metta, which is Amazon, for the things they were doing to children. He went after Big Pharma in a big way for the poisonous drugs. He went after the Biden administration and won again and again when they were trying to keep us from closing our border. He went after Google for unethical practices and won. He goes after these people and wins and it matters. And his daughter works with turning point USA. And so there were a lot of overlaps of goodness. Charlie had just passed and I said to my wife, I said, hey, I'm whatever it was. Next Thursday night, I'm going to be at a speaking event. She said, you don't do speaking events anymore. And I said, I know it's turning point USA.

21:06Because I get it. So I did. And I finished the show and I rushed over. And I'm out in the hallway waiting to be introduced and go up on stage and I'm peeking through the door and it's young people and their parents. But the young people are now in front and the parents are out. I remember what it was. There was a crazy immigrant woman from Bolivia or someone. She was a socialist communist. She was trying to get the school to deauthorize and terminate a turning point chapter that had begun. And I think Stratford High School of Armor, which is in near West Houston. And I felt like, and she's the former Democrat socialist chairman.

22:07And so she was going after the school to try to get them. Oh, she was going after the teachers who agreed to be sponsors of the program. You don't have to agree with the program to be the sponsor. Every organization needs a sponsor to make sure you don't do stupid stuff. A teacher has to be like a shaperone kind of thing. So I felt like that was really wrong headed. So I'm speaking to, I'm waiting to speak to the group. And I'm noticing that the kids are inside on the front, you know, eight or 10 or 15 rows. And their parents are standing on the back against the wall to be there to support them. Because they were kind of under fire here. And so this was their gathering to say, no, we're going to do this. And I go up and speak, and I'm looking out. And I got, I get very emotional about things that I'm passionate about. And I'm passionate about family. And I'm watching these parents just beaming at their kids because their kids are not crazed,

23:11you know, maniacal protester kids. They've raised these kids and the kids have, have stayed on the straight and narrow path. And here are these kids proudly standing up for goodness in our country. This is why it's important for the left to define who and what we are. Because these kids standing up for goodness and, and, and piety and righteousness and sacrifice and patriotism has to be defined as racism and evil. Because you have to knock them off their course. You cannot let them be the high watermark, but they are. And that's why it's so important that the left try to define us. And that's why it's so important you don't listen to them. So I'm speaking to this group. And I'm looking out and I'm thinking, I've always been the youngest person in the room. I was always the young guy who people were saying, how can we help you young man get? And I realized something crazy is happening here.

24:14I'm 55. This was last year, so I was 54. I'm 55. Charlie was 31, a month short of 32. And these kids are 16, 17, 18. He's almost old enough to be their parents. He's definitely not enough to be my son. There's a beautiful passing of the torch here. But it doesn't have to be such that one or the other, there's a continuity across generations. Which is really cool. A lot of people want to worship Charlie Kirk for how smart he was. For how quick he was while he was debating, which he was. For how prominent he became, for the friendships he developed, President Trump called him to the White House and sought his advice, which is true.

25:15But Charlie Kirk is not Jesus Christ. He's not a God. But he did, which can live on, is that he excited an entire nation of young people. Not everyone. I didn't say that. But a lot. He told them, it's okay to love your country. It's okay to appreciate your parents. It's a good thing. He became the counterculture of the counterculture. He became the pod piper for young people. And that's so much bigger than any one individual can do. And that's why they had to kill him. I'm not sure what your question was. Mr. Michael Barry. I lost a plot somewhere. You did.

26:16It is conservatism. What is that now? Very simply, it's about protecting the best we have to offer so our kids and grandkids can enjoy it. That's it. It's protecting the best. It's conservatism. Yeah, interject please. Will the best as laid down in the Constitution, as, according to who? Sure, exactly. What is objectively best? For example, so having children, which we're not doing a job of conserving, that's an objective good for the species. The birth rate is plummeting. We're the fertility rates of the lowest they've ever been in American history. And the idea of having children is now a luxury item for those that can afford it. The idea of home ownership. So I think that's an objective good that help build Western society. You have your land. You're able to care take for it. This is my place. I'm going to steward it. Well, home ownership is now at record lows for young people. That's why it's such an interesting statement. My answer, Dr. Drew, because we could spend two hours of what is the best by what's standard by whom? Well, the agreed upon way in the west of how we have explored and defined the answer

27:16is those things that are good for their own sake. And that is an Aristotelian answer. It's awfully philosophical. But you don't have to dwell on it too much. Say that children is good for society. Marriage is good for society. When drug addiction goes up, that's a bad thing. You've been a hero on that topic. Conservatism is about protecting the best we have to offer so that young people and future generations can enjoy it like we do. I'm trying to cook dinner. It's only 31 years, which is just crazy. I mean, it's absolutely crazy to think. But what he did in what that represents will live on forever. But the question becomes, what's the legacy? Or more importantly, how are we different? How's the country different? There were a lot of people who told me a year ago when he was assassinating in the days and weeks following that this was a watershed moment. That America was going to change.

28:16That the hate was going to end. The left would be so embarrassed. It'd be ashamed. They'd be guilt-ridden. And if I was in a mood to engage, I would say, no, that's not true. You don't understand they are a cult. If you know anything about cults, you can't say to your 18-year-old daughter, honey, we love you and those people are using you sexually. They're evil. They're doing you harm. And we're not the people who are your problem. And no, we're not awful people. No, we're not. They're in a cult. You got to undo the brainwashing. And I said at the time when I wanted to engage, no, it's not going to change for those people. The very people that cheered Charlie's assassination are glad he's gone.

29:23They're delighted. They don't want to see the light. They don't want a world of lightness. They want darkness. They don't see it as darkness. They see it as light. That's a very different perspective. And they don't want to be taught the error of their ways and they don't want any of what you want. So the great irony is that the very people who had hoped that this would bring an awakening for the country, at least as regards the left, would believe that because hope springs eternal if you are a Christian, hope springs eternal if you are a good person who believes in goodness. The left doesn't. They didn't look at this and say, you know what, you're right.

30:24We're outside the balance here. We're going to bring ourselves back. It's not who and what they are. They're fanatics. They didn't end up there on accident. They didn't take the wrong turn and here we are. It's a brainwashing process. It's a programming process with propaganda over a long period of time. Your kids go to school for many hours a day and they're getting a lot of it. They spend a lot of time on social media and they're getting a lot of it. They're listening to music. They're watching movies. They're hearing from each other. They're hearing from people they respect and trust. Those people are younger and prettier than you are. They're more powerful, more rich and more cool. You're young people are at an age where they want to be that guy, that girl, that couple. Those people represent something that you cannot.

31:25You're stable. You're stable. You're forever as much as for anything can be forever. You're constant. Those are not sexy notions when you're a young person. So those kids were being brainwashed. Charlie was doing his best and then they killed him for it. In order to justify killing him, they know you have to understand that in the media environment, people know that most people don't know what they're actually talking about. It's like if I were to tell you that this movie is a worst movie ever and I know you didn't see the movie, I could tell you things about the movie that aren't true and you would have no frame of reference to know that. I told you about a people in a country and how they behave and you've never been to

32:31the country and you don't know anyone from the country. I could tell you things that aren't true and as long as I didn't stretch it too far where you'd go look it up and check, I could get away with it and they know that. So what they did is they went about defining who Charlie Kirk was to anyone who didn't already know. This is where you get these massive splits in this country. People who studied the work of Charlie Kirk, people who understood it, people who appreciated it, people who were moved by it. They said that's not true. What are you talking about? This is crazy talk. But to the observer who didn't know that said well why would that person just make that up? Right? Why would they just make it up? That is the great power of the left is they know how trusting most people are. Because you tend to ascribe to other people behaviors that would be consistent with yours. If you're not a liar, cheater or stealer, you don't assume anybody else is.

33:36That's why your grandmother gets scammed because she can't imagine somebody would call and say that her grandbaby you has been in an accident and killed a pregnant woman. If she doesn't send somebody right now, you're going to be sent to prison and she better do it right now or in the case of going, because she can't imagine somebody would make up such craziness. A lie, cheat and steal person would say, how way does that going? Who is this? And so we have to get hardened in our lives. We have to grow an outer skin. But good honest decent people who hoped if nothing else Charlie's death will be a turning point in the USA were wrong. Because it would have been if it was them, but it's not them. It's evil. With Charlie's death represented was evil. And evil hasn't died. There will always be evil. There will always be a devil. But the memory of Charlie, what I didn't talk about is how it changed us and made us better

34:41and stronger than the grave of people. And that's the life. Ladies and gentlemen, Elvis has left the building. Thank you and good night. Why are you listening to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. Lot of news is boring. And tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty. We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy modern world. About something about a comedic tone. We have a winner. Yes. Listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand on the I Heart Radio app. Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I believe that whoever was in that room and did that was a murderer. A new podcast series, Fault Line Haditha, tells the story of a shocking crime and a cover-up at the highest levels of the United States Marine Corps. If you've got five players and you offer immunity to four, you better be right about

35:43the fifth. You're not. Then you've just given immunity to your color. Listen to Fault Line Haditha on the I Heart Radio app. Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.