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Boomer & Gio — Phil Simms On Harbaugh, Dart & Geno. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.
here's the other part about this whole john harbohel thing like we had them on you know he did want to play the guys in preseason nobody wants to play guys in preseason and jackson dark played a little bit james played some odel beckon played some leaked in play at all and rightfully so but the point being is that are the practices noticeably different from what they were from previous uh... groups as i guess with the exception of tom coughlin right all the way back to tom coughlin before i would say that yeah in other words the practices are exactly what you want to see is a head coach and owner x player whatever it's really uh... high energy not a lot of talking going on except the coaches the players are just in and out they move it's amazing how busy they keep them for two hours and maybe sometimes two and a half hours on the field so his so it's also competitive practice all big time i mean they're hitting right i mean they're starting at least putting yeah it's like you know it's players are running in in in on the field
from the sideline coming out in and out i'm like what the hell is going on here you know i can't even figure it out figured out but uh... the big thing about that is the energies real and i talked a lot of the players you know the hang around we talk and you know what none of them complain one time for one word to me about anything or about john harboh because he's got them they know what he's doing it's the right thing and you know i think they've done a really good job of drafting this team right now and of course preparation wise he said this to us too about the injuries and i've played in preseason he goes you know years ago we'd have four or five guys get hurt we didn't think about it now if you get one person hurt it's it's a disaster you know so that's one of the reasons why they keep most teams are on the league kept their players starting players out of the out of the preseason games now not to crap all over brine day well he's not here anymore but one thing that i really didn't notice when they made the switch
and kathaca comes in and abdual quarter gets disciplined and then you heard some of the other players around that it almost sounded like they were yearning for discipline they were yearning for a little more structure which struck me as was great to hear but i i was also surprised because you always assume that today's athlete doesn't want that type of thing but it seems like the giants are reacting really positively to that exact thing that we assume that they don't want which is more practice more structure and more discipline well you know when you lose a lot in the NFL you want to do something to change it yeah and you want to change your life your football team your job your money it's everything and the thing about it is i like i said i never hurt not one guy one player anybody said anything's a rogatory about john harball so when he walks into the room every day you sit up straight you have you know you got to do it and here's the man that's it dan Reeves after two bad years with the giants we had terrible years
we get the team together he walks in you know with the beautiful suit the tide the hairs perfect whatever he stops puts his yellow note pad on the lectern looks out of the us and he goes sit up straight put your feet on the floor and take those damn hats off and well it's you did it bardotes my center was like as close as you are to me geo and and i turned to him i went we're gonna win yes like that yeah well i mean that's a big part of it you know we're talking to uh... the great Phil sims i took a ask you uh... jackson tart uh... there's a lot of pressure on him there's a lot of pressure on this opening game the Dallas Cowboys come to town they go one of the best offenses in football yet i don't know about the secondary just yet about the giants jackson dart is the great home now and rightfully so after what we saw last year do you see significant improvement in his preparation and what he looks like in practice and what you saw in preseason man you know what i see yes all that all
the above he does he's got a really good throwing arm i'm not going to say it's the best arm in the NFL as far as thrown with power and all that stuff but he's accurate he makes great this really good decisions and and and the opportunities there he's gonna run and for all the giant fans listen jackson dart is gonna run they're gonna have design runs for him and also when you drop back to pass if you don't feel good about where you got to throw it you see a little gaps somewhere you take off i thought he was great at that last year and the other thing about him is he doesn't miss routine plays if the guys open he doesn't missing if it's tight coverage or whatever somewhere in the field he puts it in the right spot and uh... the other thing is to boomer and geo he is absolutely the pie-piper of the team i mean the players don't like him they loving that's great i mean it's i it's really he's and he's just once you're around him a little bit to go yeah get it yeah he just had that look like i remember trying to
not compare him to zack welson because they went to the same high school we just went through that zack welson experience in the first time i and it wasn't fair to him that that i thought that way it's just that another guy at a Utah it's gonna come here to New York and just get chopped up he's a pudge yeah yeah so that's what he was pudge well we'll leave that one alone so jute but just look at me he looked more like a man oh he then then then zack ever did i mean maybe does to this day so i think that part of him you could tell he's a leader but it's almost like and i'm guilty of this too when you think of the giants and the issues that they have it's almost like we put quarterback like to decide the goal it's going to work out like he's going to be fine are we are we like assuming too much that jackson darkness off more season is going to be great because i don't hear anybody it's worried about him and your people worried about secondary interior defense of line wide receivers running nobody's worried about jackson dart we're just assuming he's going to be great i'll be surprised if he's not really
really good i mean is he going to be great is he going to be one of top five or ten quarterbacks in a fell i don't know probably not but you know i think all the things that caught me by surprise last year the the biggest one was his running i would be a training camp and i you know i tell these stories all the time he he would throw the the throwing was kind of caught me by surprise every day i watched him in training camp his rookie year last year that he just got better and better and the running he'd actually looks faster in the NFL than he did in college you know i asked i asked these guys this yesterday i want to ask you this uh jets giants okay right so you have genosmith on one side you got jackson dart on the other which team has a better group around their starting quarterback the jets or the giants it's close i'd say that you know the jets the jets got some firepower over there and genos going to be a big part of that i mean there's no throws on the field that he can't make and he's got a great arm controls the ball well he's a big dude as you know and uh yeah you got a running back that can do you got a running backs yeah but
uh the number one is the one yeah every way yeah and you know so yeah the jets they got genos going to have a chance the offensive line it's not great but it's good uh genos go have a chance to have some big games i think because they're going to get open uh your buddy frank rike is going to know when to call certain plays to make sure they get at least get a chance to get a big play out of it so i think they're in really good position and i get a listen geno likes to throw the ball down the field frank likes to throw the ball down the field but frank also loves a running back like Jonathan Taylor i like he had in uh indianapolis right so i think that's where a breeze hall fits in and brown out and fits in that's going to be a nice one to punch for them so to get back to the question you think the jets have the better see yeah Jackson darts going to make extra plays right he's going to do special things run on the ball that's not genos thing genos going to be in the pocket he'll move a little bit and you'll run we could see that but you know he's older now he's going to want to be in the pocket he'll get away from a pass rush here or there but maybe the difference between
the two teams are the special plays that Jackson darts may bring for the giants uh yes i i agree with that um i think you know the giants with the one spot we got to look at the nobody talks about is the tight ends they weren't looked upon or tried they didn't try to get out i say i like least here now yes so that's a big deal there and you know pet your record to fullback i never even knew what he i didn't see him on the field once this oh well we're gonna see we're gonna see him on opening night i guarantee yeah he i think he weighed in at three oh five he runs you know is i really watched him i went down to Miami you know we watched some scrimmage the Miami dolphins and i'm it was hard to judge it because the giants won everything possible that you could win down there against another team i mean they were killing the dog I would think that with record in knowing john harboh the way we oh well i think we know him is that when Dallas comes here on that opening night it's gonna be like smash mouth like we're gonna try to run it down you throw type
of stuff and and cam scataboo's gonna be like the lead dog in that in that regard yeah i agree with that i think it's about being the the bullies that's what they've been talking about over there yeah it's a caucus that he want to be back like when you guys were playing like when you guys were good like you used to beat the hell out of teams well yeah we were a big team and you know so it's it's gone back to that you know and it's not only that it i was doing a lot of work yesterday just looking at stuff about the giants and you can't the you worry a little bit about the secondary but every other positions on all the positions on the team they got backups and not just guys guys it you know it's really close who would you play and the other thing is too yeah the high flying Dallas cowboys and their passing attack which is real the defense in front of the giants has to be kind of the difference in the game yeah they'll try to run it but they got to find a way to get to the quarterback i think they have those people there enough talent to get it done so we'll find out where's your reaction to the darius latent release wasn't surprised at all yeah i mean kind of
hanging around you know and watching practice all the time which i didn't do it every day but i did it enough and you know i never heard a good word said about darius latent wow you know not a good word you know not a bad word either not a bad word just just just no words it's just time they want to move on yeah and that's just feels like there's not a ton of depth there there's not so that's why releasing a guy who you know can play was a little bit surprising but i'm not saying that this guy did much in his career as a giant he certainly certainly didn't and there were some big drops on his resume but i just i guess they really really trust who else is on the roster and and mooney maybe is someone in malachi fields are two guys that they really really trust which it sounded like john harboh i yes i as john harboh about malachi fields i'm like all right so his my are my eyes lying to me or this guy are really good player or going to be a good player i listen he never disappointed in a practice you know i would watch him and i go well that was really good oh that was really good and you know what i think it really hit me and just i give up was when they went
down and scrimmaged my amia one on ones you know the old seven on seven then team helly was great in all of them did he look did he look big to you i could he know he is big i have some one you know sometimes we talk about wide receivers we say we know that guy six one but he really doesn't look like six one doesn't play six one plays like five eleven no he plays big he this kid plays big okay that's why they drafted him you know that's why they moved up they get a big receiver they got him it'll be interesting to see what they do well he play slot you know the slot receiver a little bit just because of his sizing go inside and catch but the other thing is to remember the dairy slate and i'm sure the judgment i don't know this i'm just saying it when they looked at it they go we want to keep these tight ends we don't want to give one of them up so what are we going to do and so that's why you go right to dairy a slate and and you know i didn't hear really any good words about him during training camp uh he was out there he was trying his best i guess but not shocked at the letting go
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