Paul Spain: Gorilla Technology CEO on Nvidia's CEO claiming AI has matched human capability

0:00One of the world's biggest AI bosses. Now says AI has matched human capability. In video's CEO, Jensen Huang, says, Chechy Patie's latest model, which is known as Astra, is so impressive that we've reached the landmark of AGI or artificial general intelligence. Paul Spain is a futurist, and he's the CEO also at Gorilla Technology and with us. Hi, Paul. Hi, how you doing, Heather? Well, thanks, mate. Are you convinced that we've reached AGI? Well, the short answer is no. I think you've got to look at this through the lens of, you know, who is Jensen? What's his role? And, you know, he runs the biggest company on the planet. And their role is to sell the hardware that makes AGI possible. And that only happens if we keep getting excited and hyped about where it's going. That's how his share price stays high. That's how open AGI and Anthropic end up having sort of big IPOs. So I think this is part of trying to keep it exciting

1:00and hyped for people, but I'm not sure we've reached what I would call artificial general intelligence just yet. OK. He had a big pilava about a fruit fly's brain. Did you understand that? And how that led us to understand that AGI was here? No, no. I didn't, I've listened to a bunch of the things that he said. I didn't go into that one. But yeah, he's given, you know, I guess some interesting examples he talked about. AGI being the build a billion dollar business, but that it would have zero chance of building and running a business like Nvidia on an ongoing basis. We've talked for a long time around narrow, artificial, narrow intelligence. And that's kind of been the norm, the world that we've been in, you know, over the over recent years. And I think what's happening is we've got a range of these

2:01narrow, artificial intelligence is available within platforms, you know, such as OpenAI's new GPT-6 model. But they're just kind of wired and linked together. You don't actually have a, I guess, a true brain that can sink across all areas of domains and really operate like a human. And so, you know, to me, we're not there yet. You know, one thing that would give me kind of confidence that we were there is any one of us could delegate our job to an AI to look after while we go on holiday for a week. I don't think there's probably virtually anybody on the planet that can say I could do, you know, at least a, you know, a half quality version of their work, you know, like that. There's just so many gaps in the technology right now. Paul, I just don't believe that's ever going to happen. Like this feels like the Jetsons crap, you know, we've been doing this forever, haven't we? Saying that this wonderful thing is going to happen in the future and it never really does.

3:02Do you ever believe, do you, do you believe this will ever happen? Well, I used to say no, I used to, you know, even a year ago, I thought artificial general intelligence, this is, you know, this is science fiction and it will never come. But the more I watch the progress and see the improvements, the more open I am to the possibility that things get really flipped on their head, but it's a big journey to do it. It's not just about the technology. It's around, you know, how businesses and organisations work that technology into transforming themselves, you know, this is not something that happens in five minutes. That's the story. All right, Paul, hey, thank you, man. Appreciate it as always. It's Paul Spain, futurist and CEO at Guerrilla Technology.