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No more 4-year cycles? Bitcoin’s future with Stephan Livera

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If Bitcoin’s famous 4-year cycle is breaking down, what does that mean for investors, and does it weaken the case for Bitcoin’s future?

In this episode of Trezor Talks, popular Bitcoin podcaster and Austro-libertarian thinker Stephan Livera joins Sean to explore Bitcoin’s role in a late-stage fiat world.

They discuss:

• How hyperbitcoinization could actually happen

• The risks of treasury companies holding Bitcoin

• Why Bitcoin is the greatest opportunity for young people

• What it really means to live in late-stage fiat

• Why gold is not the money of the future

• How to survive bear markets without getting rekt

• Why self-custody will always be #1

And more!

“For most people, the safe thing to do is stay humble and stack sats.” — Stephan Livera

This podcast was filmed during BTC Prague.

Timestamps:

(0:00) – Introduction: What is an Austro-libertarian?
(5:05) – Stephan’s mission: spreading Bitcoin awareness
(10:36) – Are Bitcoin’s 4-year cycles ending?
(19:40) – The risks of Bitcoin treasury companies
(28:27) – Living in late-stage fiat
(30:15) – You need to ride the cycles 🎢
(32:00) – Purity tests in Bitcoin
(36:15) – NGU technology & onboarding newcoiners
(40:00) – Why people keep using exchanges
(41:48) – How to stop friends losing coins
(46:40) – Wen hyperbitcoinization?!
(51:25) – Why you’re still early
(53:10) – Sean got his bank frozen
(54:55) – Will Google & Apple bow to Bitcoin? (YES!)
(56:18) – Prague has become a Bitcoin hub
(57:26) – Zoom out: price vs. big picture
(59:30) – Sean’s favorite meme on surviving the bear market
(1:01:50) – Bitcoin vs. gold & property
(1:08:10) – Closing thoughts & the awkward handshake


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