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Jane and Fi discuss the fallout from footballer Iker Casillas's alleged joke about being gay in a sport where coming out for men seems almost impossible.
Joining them today is the Royal broadcaster Katie Nicholl to talk about her new book "New Royals" and answer why it's so hard being a female member of the Royal family.
Also, Kayley Stead, the brave bride who continued with her wedding after her husband-to-be decided not to attend.
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Times Radio Producer: Rosie Cutler
Podcast Executive Producer: Ben Mitchell
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