MFM Minisode 504

0:00This is exactly right. Hello, we have incredible news. The exactly right store is having an end of summer sale from September 3rd through September 7th. You can save up to 30% off store-wide on my favorite murder and exactly right merch. The more you spend, the more you save. Now's the time to grab that shirt. So, hat, koozie, whatever else has been sitting in your cart for the last three months. Head to exactly right store.com and use code summer sale for up to 30% off store-wide. Some exclusion supply. Goodbye. Goodbye. If you're a bookshelf and you're a for you page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. Pro Society is a weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island deserve the same level of discourse. Each week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet and pop culture.

1:00With your favorite writers, book talk creators and plenty of over thought opinions. Yeah, I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. Listen to pro society on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I survived nine months in captivity and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are the survivor files. Every week I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable, abducted, stalked, controlled and nearly silenced. These are stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the survivor files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome to my favorite murder, the back to school mini-sode.

2:06The back to school, very special episode of the mini-sode. We're going to do just teacher adjacent stories, right? School stories, teacher stories. Yes. Because we're doing this, we're also going to have a little fun with it. Last year we reposted a bunch of teachers' wish lists so that other people could help and clear them. And everybody responded. Of course, it's the murder in a community. So they showed up and they showed out and they cleared a ton of wish lists. So this year we are going to join in and like double down on that. We're going to clear as many wish lists as possible by donating $10,000 to kids in need foundation in the name of all our teacher, murderinos, teacherinos. And kids in need foundation is really great because it actually focuses on under-resourced classrooms. And that feels even better. Totally. So if you'd like to help and give a little as well and clear teacher's wish list, we're going to be reposting them on Instagram, teacher's wish lists. Right. And so you can jump in.

3:06Our donation is like covering it so that we're not picking as favorite school. Right. And so you can join in. If you're a teacher, you can retweet your wish list. Yeah. And then murderinos who did it last year have an opportunity to help out. Totally. So teachers post your Instagram story with a link to your wish list and then tag us at my favorite murder. And let's have some fun with this. And we can help you out. We can help out and do something good. That's right. That's fucked up world. Think of the children. Think of the children. All right. Let's get to. Okay. The subject line of this one is most unqualified substitute teacher ever. Yes. Hello, you wonderful ladies. When back you asked for hometowns about inappropriate jobs for children, mind dates back to the early 70s. A feral time of massive discrimination, unchecked pollution and corporate disregard of safety and absolutely amazing music. There's loads. There's loads. There's real bad lows. And then there's a couple eyes. I grew up in a very small West Texas town of 5,000 people.

4:07And then in parentheses, do not recommend. Which at the time had two elementary schools. My father was the principal of one. And the other principal was a man I'll call Mr. Taylor because that was his name and I'm dumb protecting incompetent men. Yeah. It all the sudden the email is blowing up. Love it. One morning Mr. Taylor claiming he could not find a substitute teacher called my high school office and asked them to send me over to his elementary school for the day to fill in. Without asking any questions, the high school principal pulled me out of class and told me to go to the elementary school. Important point here, I was 16 years old. Wow. Also important point, I did not ask any questions because I had it drilled into me from birth that I was to do whatever an adult told me totally, totally, very dark times. Nonsense. The internet children don't understand. No. Dutifully, I showed up at Mr. Taylor's office and he took me to a third grade classroom. So, how old is the third grade or is it nine? Yeah, the oldest I think.

5:09They're still pretty young. Told me the real teachers in other rooms would check on me throughout the day and left. The real teachers did not. In fact, check on me not even once. I never saw another adult all day except for lunch when one of them casually asked, how's it going? Jesus. And walked away without waiting for me to answer. Those third graders were treated to a day of coloring, a few math problems and me reading allowed to them from whatever books I could find in the room. Luckily, I didn't lose any children and there was no blood shed so I considered the day a success. When I got home that afternoon, I discovered neither of my parents had known where I was or what I was doing and responded to my telling them that their 16-year-old daughter had spent the day as a substitute teacher of small children with, that's nice. Wow. So maybe there's an aroma of trash parents in this story also. There was never any mention of paying me for a day's work. I suspect Mr. Taylor could see that submitting a pay voucher for a minor who wasn't on the approved substitute teacher list and didn't have a social security number might raise some

6:14questions. Wow. Apparently, none of the third graders' parents raised any objections to whatever their children told them about their teenage substitute. Jesus. But here's the thing. When you're in third grade or like eight-year-old, it's completely an adult. You'd be like, you run the bank. Yeah. But you're here today. Because dear listeners, this happened at least twice more during my high school years. It's like, it's like, it's just hiring a babysitter. Yes. Not a teacher. And that's the problem. And that's the problem right there. Thank you for all you do in the world and the joy you bring to this cat-loving old broad, stay sexy and maybe make a couple more phone calls before hiring a 16-year-old as a substitute teacher, Jana. Because even a babysitter would get paid for like 30 kids or whatever? That's a lot of fucking money you'd get paid for babysitting. You would get, if you got $20 to babysit a kid for the night. Do the math. Times that up and paid Jana retroactively. You can't do everything for you. State of Texas. Hello.

7:15We have incredible news. The exactly right store is having an end of summer sale from September 3rd through September 7th. You can save up to 30% off store-wide on my favorite murder and exactly right merch. The more you spend, the more you save. Now's the time to grab that shirt. Tote, hat, koozie, whatever else has been sitting in your cart for the last three months. Head to exactly right store.com and use code summer sale for up to 30% off store-wide. Some exclusions apply. Goodbye. Goodbye. Okay. I'm going to, this is a Montessori penpal story. Best wishes, warm regards. It starts. Nice. My home of Danville, Iowa. I don't know why I point to you. There's a Danville on the north. There's Danville in the East Bay. Okay. That's not this one. Danville, Iowa is surrounded by cornfields. Has students who regularly drive tractors to school during homecoming and has about 900 citizens. Good. That's top you cold because you're from Orange County. I don't get it.

8:15Yeah. You get on your dad's tractor and you drive to homecoming and you're in your dress and you're so much special. Always like your dad. It's like a little parade. Okay. Got it. Got it. I always win the, my town is smaller than your town game, but we do have an incredible story. Back in 1940, there was a teacher named Bertie Matthews, who was known for being pretty strict, but she genuinely cared about her students and wanted to ensure they had the best education a small farming community could provide. She would even loan country kids her car so they could get to school on time. Loan on your tractor. Yeah. I'm jump on. It's just that they go three miles an hour. Being ahead of her time, she traveled to Europe and attended a convention about new methods of learning. While there, she connected with a Dutch Montessori teacher and the two developed a penpal program, which was a very new idea back then. She came back to Danville with a list of Montessori students for her own students to pick from and write letters back and forth. Two sisters, Juanita and Betty Wagner wanted to write another set of sisters and found a pair listed and and Margot.

9:18The Wagner girls excitedly spoke of living on a farm and what life was like in a small community compared to the other sisters city experience. Hashtag quote quote holy shit, I got a sub scrolling. Tell me. Tell me. It quote almost it again. It was just friendly talk to write to somebody overseas was a great experience and quote Betty later said and and Margot wrote back in English translated by their father auto with photos and postcards of Amsterdam. Do you know where I'm going? Juanita and Betty wrote back immediately but never heard from the girls again. The Netherlands had been invaded by the Germans two weeks later and any letters going out to America would have been impossible. That is not where I thought you were going. I forgot that it was the 40s. I didn't want to say I didn't want to spoil it but the sisters want to eat and Betty Wagner in Iowa wrote to and Margot Frank and their father auto translated.

10:18Oh my god. When the war ended Betty decided to write to the Frank's old address in hopes that Anne and Margot were still there. She was answered months later by auto Frank the only survivor who then told Betty and Juanita the entire story of his family's experience in hiding being caught in the deaths of his daughters. In 1956 Betty heard of a new play called the Diary of Anne Frank being opened and hoping it was her old pen pal bought the book. The girls were shocked that their old friends were now faces of the Holocaust. Thankfully Juanita and Betty had kept their letters from Anne and Margot. Anne and Margot's letters are currently in the Simon Wyzenthal Center kept safely an avult. Oh my god. These are a little pen pal program that is incredible teacher. Why have we never heard of this before? I don't know. It's incredible. Just like yeah normal life. The tiny Danville Anne Frank Museum is the only place granted permission to showcase digital

11:19copies. Wow. So because of this Danville opened Anne Frank Museum because of these sisters. Yeah. Since 2012 Danville eighth graders collect postcards like the ones Anne and Margot sent to their pen pals hoping to get 1.5 million to represent the 1.5 million children killed in the Holocaust. Juanita died in 2001 and Betty died in 2012. I tried to pass along the story as much as I can. It is an ultimately devastating story but it is amazing how two farm girls in the middle of nowhere were able to pass along a bit of history about two girls. They didn't consider major figures. They didn't know the mark and diary would make on the world. They were just children excited to make new friends. If only everyone can have that outlook. Stay safe and pass along amazing stories Morgan she her. I'm just blown away. I know. Why does everyone know that story? No. I know. I want to read those letters. I know. But they're just like they're just went out and played.

12:22This is what my life is like. Normal life. And how amazing. Wow. Well, thank you so much for writing that in. Yeah Morgan. That's incredible. Hello. We have incredible news. The exactly right store is having an end of summer sale. From September 3rd through September 7th you can save up to 30% off store wide on my favorite murder and exactly right March. The more you spend the more you save. Now's the time to grab that shirt. Tote, hat, koozie, whatever else has been sitting in your cart for the last three months. Head to exactly right store.com and use code summer sale for up to 30% off store wide. Some exclusions apply. Goodbye. Goodbye. Welcome aboard season six of the girlfriends flight or fight which takes place 30,000 feet in the sky. There's great food, comfortable chairs and attentive stewardesses.

13:22The stewardesses were so beautiful. But in reality, the stewardess job is far less glamorous than it appears. It was the most sexist job I think you could have. In this era, the airlines told these stewardesses they have to be single. They had no good excuse for why they wouldn't let women be married. They have to be skinny. We were starving ourselves. And they have to be young. You would retire at age 32. But one day a group of stewardesses said, this has got to stop. They risked it all, turning a fight for fairness into a revolution. Listen to the girlfriends flight or fight on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so the subject line of this email is teacher typo.

14:23Hello, I am a high school English teacher and I have taught middle school in the past. That's like saying I've been to war. This story is from my middle school days. At the time we were not as into the digital age with all of the online classrooms like we are today in the post-COVID world. But I was posting weekly lesson plans onto my section of the school website. So parents could see what we were just remembered what this is. So parents could see what we were doing in class for the week. One unit in particular was about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. speech sharing the American dream, which is a great speech and made for an equally great lesson. Of course I posted the name of that lesson on the website with my weekly plans. Fast forward a bit and we got a new teacher who was going to teach the same classes as me. So I shared my lesson plan calendars with her. A day or so later, I got a text from her with a picture of my lesson plan for that unit with a message that said something along the lines of, I am laughing so hard I'm crying. It took me a minute to see it.

15:25But when I did, I almost died. Apparently when I first typed that lesson plan, I had not proofread what I had written. And I did an inadvertently added a T to the title of the speech. That's right. It said sharding the American dream. Oh no. Oh no. Right there. Like that's not a word that has to be caught by the computer. Can we get one copy editor? Like if I can't write ducking? You're telling me there's no, yeah, there's no red line under. Yeah. And it went up and no one said a word. Holy shard. Do you fear more a horrifying humiliating mistake like this that you know, whenever says a word about or immediately you get the text and the phone calls of take that down. You. Which one's better or which one's worse? Yeah. Because I feel like the slow burn is almost like more horrifying. Yeah. Like people are like, oh no, look away. Both sound just so bad. Both are making me like break out and sweat.

16:26Do we have to pick one, I guess, is the real question neither? Okay. Sit in it. Sit in the shame. This had been up on the school website for parents to see for at least a whole year. Not one parent. Like that's a year. Okay. Anyway, I am not sure any parents ever read the plans or they just didn't see it because I never received any type of email about about it. I was tempted to leave it because I work with kids all day and that has become my sense of humor. But in the name of professionalism, I did change it and I sincerely apologize to Dr. King for disgracing his speech in that way. Thank you for being my car companions during my 45 minute commute to work each day. These past few years have been pretty rough in the world of education and in the world in general. And your podcast has been an excellent way to decompress after the hard days. Thanks for reading and shout out to Laura for fighting the good fight. Stay sexy and always check your work. Even if you're an English teacher, that's the worst part.

17:29Oh my God. It's so bad. Mortify. It's so bad. But it is true. People don't read stuff like that. No, I wonder if anyone had ever seen it. Except for the other, like the new English teacher of course caught it. And if they did get it, it was a full year of risk. And here comes the second English teacher to save the first ones as. Holy shit. America. Okay. My next one I'm not going to reach the subject line. Hello dear friends. I am woefully behind and listening to minisode 392 where Kelsey wrote in about her dad getting all kinds of good shit, including a bike from Pepsi points he fraudulently sent in. Love that story. This reminded me of a Polaroid I have with myself on the first day of kindergarten, which been says as kindergarten. Kindie garden. I wonder if I take a Midwest thing up there. I love it. Kindie garden. Wearing a questionable outfit. I know my mom, Maxine, would be pissed if she knew I was about to share her parents names with a lot of strangers, but too bad. Her parents stand in rows, owned a grocery store, and we get all kinds of merch from alcohol,

18:31food, soda, shout out to the R2D2 Pepsi Cooler we had when Star Wars episode one came out. I remember those on the top it slid up like that. Like an R2D2 thing. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. How much are those worth? And especially cigarette brands. So yeah, there's a picture of me from the first day of school wearing a giant new port cigarette t-shirt. That is... I want one full. I want one right now. Trash parenting when I still have some of the bags, sunglasses, mugs, and a cool brand with a K, of course. Sure, but not that one. Sad. Stay sexy and probably don't let your five-year-old promote tobacco products in school. Pam. And then Pam attached a photo. Oh, Pam. Newport. What was it saying for Newport? Something. Something. I love the breeze or something. Feel the breeze. That is amazing. With Newport. Pam. Pam. It's so epic. I love that so much. Oh, god.

19:32It's so good. People are just like, it pretends it's the town. Pretend it's the town. Right. Oh, it's so good. Amazing. Georgia, it looks like the saying is alive with pleasure. Alive with pleasure. Alive with pleasure. Something with something. Yeah, you knew it. Alive with pleasure. That's the best because you're going to die in pain. If you smoke the Alive with pleasure, Randall. Big time advertising. Totally. You're not dying at all. Like someone in a courtroom on so much coke thought of that saying. You know what? Alive. This is killing them. Let's say alive with pleasure. It's not to be opposite. Like, it's worth it. Now, you're living now. So it's worth it because you get pleasure. Right. So like, you're alive with it now because you're going to be fucking dead from it. Because you're smoking menthol cigarettes. It's like fiberglass menthol. The cool logo though was one of my favorite fonts of all time. So good. Because there's a K in it. Oh, sure. I mean, it's really all about narcissism at the end of the day. Absolutely. I use the Georgia font and every fucking thing I do.

20:32I am here with you. Hello. We have incredible news. The exactly right store is having an end of summer sale from September 3rd through September 7th. I'm up to 30% off store wide on my favorite murder and exactly right merch. The more you spend, the more you save. Now's the time to grab that shirt. Tote, hat, koozie, whatever else has been sitting in your cart for the last three months. Head to exactlyrightstore.com and use code summer sale for up to 30% off store wide. Some exclusions apply. Goodbye. Goodbye. Welcome aboard season six of the girlfriends flight or fight, which takes place 30,000 feet in the sky. There's great food, comfortable chairs and attentive stewardesses. The stewardesses were so beautiful. But in reality, the stewardess job is far less glamorous than it appears. It was the most sexist job I think you could have.

21:40In this era, the airlines told these stewardesses they have to be single. They had no good excuse for why they wouldn't let women be married. They have to be skinny. We were starving ourselves. And they have to be young. You would retire at age 32. But one day, a group of stewardesses said, this has got to stop. They risked it all, turning a fight for fairness into a revolution. Listen to the girlfriends flight or fight on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. So my last email is the subject line says it's a Catholic school non-story and then I'm not going to read you the rest. That was just the first half. It says it just gets into it. When my family moved to northern New Jersey in 1980, I started attending Queen of Peace Catholic school. I mean, you just have to get into it.

22:41Sixth grade started out great. Largely because our teacher was a 157-year-old man who only taught us two subjects spelling and saying the grocery. Oh my god. This is what Catholic spell is like. It was really up to whoever the tallest person in the room was, what was going on. I felt very unregulated. I don't think she ever taught math, history, geography or anything else for that matter. I did not complain. I started to imagine that perhaps I too would become a nun. No math, just a bunch of pray. Not a bad life. This is my favorite email. One day I was working in my spelling book when Tommy Decker hit me over the head with his spelling book. I had not been taught how to tell someone to go to hell. So instead I did the only thing a sixth grade Catholic school girl could do. I battled. Sister Anne, Tommy Decker hit me on the head with his spelling book. Sister Anne did not tolerate defiling spelling. Tell him to stop it and let me know if he does it again. I tried it back to my seat. I started working on my spelling again and he did it again.

23:43Sister Anne, Tommy Decker hit me on the head again. Sister Anne marched her plump, habited form over to Tommy Decker, grabbed him by the hair and dragged him to the front of the class. And she called me to the front of the class as well. This made me nervous because clearly sister Anne was deviating from the script. Tommy Decker should have been sent to our principal, sister Michael, the principal's name is sister Michael, like in dairy girls, where he would have been yelled at and given detention. Sister Anne let go of Tommy Decker's hair and turned to me. Hit him back. She did it. I knew it. I love it. Hit him back in front of the class. Should I defy the bride of Christ and go to hell or slap Tommy Decker, who had done nothing but bother me for weeks? Clearly I had to follow the path upon which I had been sent. Oh God, I wanted you in. Why do I want to hit a kid so bad? Well, you know Tommy Decker. I pulled my arm back, extended my hand and slapped his face with all my might. Holy shit.

24:43I don't remember a single detail more about this incident until the phone call from sister Michael that night. And it starts, you are not in trouble. But can you tell me what happened today? I gave her my story. She thanked me and hung up. I did my spelling. I prayed my rosary and went to bed. Oh my God. The next day at school, we had a substitute teacher. I knew that. Word quickly spread. Sister Anne was gone. She had been sent away to wherever bad nuns go and was replaced by a nice stable, late teacher with dishpan hands who we would call dishie for the rest of the year. Stay sexy and offer your suffering up to Jesus. Oh my God. Sarah, I teach preschool and whenever a kid's mad about something trivial, I do the look, listen, look and listen and look and listen until they get annoyed with me and stomp off. It works every time. Sarah, you just moved into my number one favorite fucking email because I don't, I try not to read these.

25:44Yeah. I just skim them for now. So I know what's about to happen. Yeah. Slap that kid across the face, right? But you know, you know that kids got a fetish now, a grown-up fetish, being slapped in the face by nuns. Right? There's got to be a nun. You got to be someone who wants to be a schoolgirl outfit. A nun in a schoolgirl outfit. And then it's your bad, Tommy, your bad. Exactly. Okay, my last one. Let him live. Hero teacher was a bitchy queen. Oh. Hey, love you. I was out at his gay at the beginning of my senior year in 1980 at a high school party. Starting off strong. That's it. In 1980. Oh, horrifying. Yeah, I'm so sorry. Although I didn't reap the whirlwind of abuse I'd expected from my southern small-town classmates. It sent me into a downward spiral of fear and deep, deep depression. Understandably, I stopped doing any of the things I loved, including studying. I know, nerd. So my straight-aids became season-dies. My teachers noticed, of course, but none asked me what was going on or if I needed help.

26:46One told me my brain probably wasn't mature enough for calculus. Another pulled me aside and actually said, it's okay, some people peak early. But my AP American history teacher, let's call him Mr. Patterson, never said a thing to me all semester. That wasn't unusual. He was a big, loud, southern queen, like a cross between a football coach and Truman Capote. Brilliant. Brilliant. That's, what's his name on modern, it's cam on modern family. Totally cam. Incredible. Bitchie, intimidating and mean. His vibe was always wanting to watch the school burn down while sipping a G&D. Hell yeah. One of his hallmarks was handing back our test and papers, one by one, walking up the rows of desks, telling us what a useless, talentless, decadent generation we were in in a booming list. It was funny, but he wasn't joking. At the beginning of the second semester, when I was at my absolute lowest, he was handing back the term papers we were supposed to have written over the break.

27:46As he slammed each paper down on a desk, he saved a little hidden insult for that particular student. Quote, they wouldn't hold your hand in college, slam. If you even get to college, slam, which is unlikely when you cannot spell or string two words together coherently, slam. When he got to me, I braced, but new, it didn't matter. My depression had none me to almost anything. He stood next to my desk and said, quote, but maybe your generation isn't a total loss. Some of you can write better than the textbook. Yes, slam. That's right. I peaked at my grade A plus with the note you write like an angel. If you're thinking that solved everything or that he became my mentor, no. He never said another thing to me until just before spring break. I was not only after class because I didn't like to linger in the crowded corridors. He looked up from the papers he was grading and said with a little wave at the noisy hallway, Mr. S, these people are turkeys.

28:47Don't become a turkey. I mostly pulled myself out of my depression that spring, at least enough to get away from high school. I spent the next 40 years as a writer, editor. I'm now married, sent my retired, and working on my first novel. Mr. Patterson was never in the front of my mind over the years, other than those few interactions, there wasn't much to remember. But in hindsight, that man probably saved my life by simply reminding me I wasn't worthless. He knew, then as now, we bitchy queens have got to take care of each other. S, S, D, G, M, and don't be a turkey. Mr. S. Oh, Mr. S. Congratulations. How could you congratulate me? I had a teacher that saved my life in the same way. Like Mrs. Mercer was her name. And I wouldn't be where I am. I've written about her in her book. I would not be where I am today about her. Because she took an interest. She saw you. Yeah, totally. It's huge. I mean, especially that age where you do, like, unless you're a cheerleader or a football star, you go invisible, and then you're kind of grappling with that.

29:52And the irony of someone being outed at a time where it was only a punchline. Yeah. And the risk, there was like real physical risk. Yes. Absolutely. Because everyone else around you's having a time of their life. Everyone's telling you it's the best year of your life, and you're fucking depressed and miserable. And I think something's wrong with you. Or you believe that you don't belong. You don't get to have that or something. What I really love too is like that idea he wasn't his mentor. Nothing else. Yeah. Because he was actually being a great teacher. He's just like, get your fucking head on straight and focus on what you need to be doing. This shit isn't, this shit is not like not worth it. Right. Don't worry about these people. Bye. Please come and tell me how you do. It's nothing. Just like go actually do it. Yeah. I love it. Let's repeat it. So you guys remember kids in need foundations where we're donating to and to post your Instagram story with a link to your wish list teachers and tag us at my favorite murder. Let's get some wishlets cleared. I was going to tell a story because this is my sister's last year of teaching.

30:52It is? Oh my god. And she has, I think it's 30 years. If not, 32. Holy shit. Well, she has been a grammar school teacher and she's taught every grade and she's done, I mean, she's done every single thing. But the last like five years she's been focusing on kindergarten because she loves getting little kids and basically teaching them how to learn. Totally. That's like her favorite thing. And I just wanted to, she doesn't listen to the show and she doesn't like this show. But we all know her. And to be a teacher for that long and to be dedicated the way she's been. Yeah. These are the people who are make it possible when we all learn this lesson in COVID. Yeah. These people make it possible for everybody else to live their lives when they have families. Absolutely. And they get paid absolute shit because it's a female dominated job and all of those things hopefully will change sooner rather than later. But in the meantime, there's people who are really keeping it together in the most egregious circumstances.

31:53So if you have anything extra and you can give it in any way you can clear one item on one list, there's a lot of teachers out there that are doing it and they never get any applause. They never get anything. I think mission. Yeah, that's amazing. Wow. Yeah. Incredible. Wish Laura had been my teacher. She's so sweet. She was a really good teacher. She was, I was her first student and she was a very good teacher. Look at you now. Look, look at, she taught me how to get my own podcast studio. All her bullying works. She took it all out on you so she could be a teacher that's common. That's right. They all think she's really nice. Right. I've tried to sue her through the state many times. They won't let me. Well, thanks for listening, you guys. Happy back to school. Yay. I feel bad for you, but you know, enjoy. Totally. It stays that thing. And don't get murdered. Good. Elvis, do you want a cookie? Ah. Ah. This has been an exactly right production.

32:58Our managing producer is Molly Smith. Our consulting producer is Kate Schellmbach. Our creative lead is Alice in the Gosty. Our associate producer is Tessa Hughes and our editor is Aristotle Acevedo. This episode was mixed by Leonis Kulachy. Email your hometowns to my favorite murder at gmail.com and follow the show on Instagram at my favorite murder. Listen to my favorite murder on the iHeartRadio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Or watch new episodes every week on Netflix. Search for my favorite murder, add us to your list and hit the double thumbs up button. Goodbye. Good bye. Hello. We have incredible news. The exactly right store is having an end of summer sale. It's September 3rd through September 7th. You can save up to 30% off store wide on my favorite murder and exactly right merch. The more you spend, the more you save. Now's the time to grab that shirt. Tote, hat, koozie, whatever else has been sitting in your cart for the last three months.

34:00Head to exactlyrightstore.com and use code summer sale for up to 30% off store wide. Some exclusions apply. Goodbye. Goodbye. Dancing with the Stars is looking for a new pro. And since last season, I came in eighth place. I'm basically an expert. I'm Daniel Fischel. And I'm Vouch Merkowski. And we have a new podcast called Stepping on Toes with Danielle and Val. Every week we're breaking down Dancing with the Stars the next pro. To find out who I'll be sharing the born with next season. Listen to Stepping on Toes on America's number one podcast network iHeart. Follow Stepping on Toes and start listening on the free iHeart radio app today. I survived nine months in captivity and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are the survivor files. Every week I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable, abducted, stalked, controlled

35:01and nearly silenced. These are stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the survivor files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeart radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.