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And here we are presenting you what we call a solo episode.

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So this is the patriarchy.

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No, we're the literal business owners.

We love this.

This is one thing we can't like and blame on the patriarchy.

Unfortunately.

This is the Estriarchy.

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Let's end it.

The Estriarchy.

That's a good new pause.

Right?

Three point in back.

Three point in back.

So sick of her.

God, if she would only shut up, she just can't help herself.

This week it's me who can't help herself and can't shut the fuck up by telling you a

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Let's see if I can't shut the fuck up.

I probably can't.

And listen, it can't all be true crime all the time.

Explain yourself at no time to no person.

I'm doing it.

That's true.

Oh, it was just for the Estriarchy.

Well, they say not good enough.

Yeah, actually, as they always fucking say that.

She does, right?

She's so tough.

She's so mean.

She talks a lot.

Yeah.

It's because she's a little sister.

Yeah, that's right.

No one listens.

So today I'm going to do a story about a sports legend.

Okay.

Great.

One of your favorite sports.

Oh, yeah.

Baseball.

Who many would argue that this sports legend, Babe Ruth?

No.

I'm going to open the door for the civil rights movement.

What?

This is the story of baseball legend Jackie Robinson.

Hell yeah.

Do you know anything about that?

I know.

I don't talk about it.

Well, absolutely.

And I've definitely watched a lot of documentaries with my dad that I would not myself

have otherwise chosen.

Yeah.

But then when I watch it, I'm like, I'm so glad I watched that.

It's because Ken Burns can do no wrong.

Yeah.

Oh, right.

Yeah.

So the main source of the story is the Ken Burns documentary Jackie Robinson and

the rest of the sources can be found in the show notes.

Incredible.

So Jack Roosevelt Robinson is born January 31st, 1919 in Cairo, Georgia to Mali and Jerry

Robinson.

And Theodore Roosevelt had died earlier in the month that Jack is born.

So that's why his middle name is Roosevelt to the tribute to the Roosevelt.

Oh, Jack is that we are to think that they were existed right at the same.

They like did a full overlap.

Overlapped.

Right.

That'll be my last comment.

No, it won't.

And I'm glad.

Jack is the youngest of five children and his father works as a sharecropper, at least

true of Jack's grandparents had been enslaved.

And I looked it up in the year he's born at least 21 African Americans are hanged in Georgia

alone.

So we're deep in it.

It's 1919, you know, yes, we're not easy.

And there's so much more that I've left out of this just for time purposes.

So definitely watch the Ken Burns documentary.

Everyone's like, yeah, we're going to be.

We're not going to just listen to you.

This isn't where we get this.

This is going to be only been playing this in schools.

Yeah.

So the father, Jerry, winds up abandoning the family right around when Jack is six months

old.

And so left with five kids in there, a few options.

Malley has to come up with a plan to take care of her family.

So when Jack is a year old, Malley moves the family to Pasadena.

Oh, like right down the street from us.

Yeah, right around the corner.

And like back then it was like all orange grows.

Oh, that's coast and beautiful homes.

And it is a really lovely community.

So Malley's brother lives there.

And so Malley moves there with their children, helping to find a better life, more opportunities,

and less outright racism than is baked into the culture in Georgia.

And while Pasadena is certainly less deadly, it's still very racist.

Malley works as a maid in a white family's house.

And only two years after moving to Pasadena when Jack is three, Malley has saved up enough

money to buy her own house.

And she buys one in Pasadena on a street called Pepper Street, which is predominantly white.

And so the neighbors are not welcoming.

And in quaint little Pasadena, they burn across on her front lawn.

I was going to say, because I remember, we talked about something else.

And I remember learning that Glendale was a sundown town.

Right.

And that lots and lots of places.

Like, it's a lie we tell ourselves that California somehow was filled with a bunch of cool

hippies that loved everybody.

It's like, no sundown towns left, right, and center.

Yeah.

I mean, just horrifying.

Yeah.

100%.

I mean, it's why Al Tadena exists, because they were pushed down the Pasadena.

Also, the neighbors call the cops on Jack's older brother when he's roller skating on the

sidewalk.

Just not good.

But Malley makes it known that she has no intentions of moving.

And eventually, Jack himself falls in with what's called the Pepper Street gang, which

is a group of kids from a neighborhood, from minority backgrounds.

They stick together, they get into low level mischief.

They're playing baseball on the street and that kind of thing.

Yeah.

When Jack is around 10, his classmates start to notice that he's an incredible baseball

player.

And so they start sharing their lunches with him in order to get him to play on their

team.

But Jack isn't the first star athlete at the family.

This is so interesting.

Jack's older brother, Mack, is a track star.

And he competes on the 1936 US Olympic team in Berlin, the one that Jesse O'Brien, who

owns another Black athlete, wins four gold medals.

Yes.

And he in the 200-year dash, Mack comes in second to Jesse Owens.

Wow.

I know.

What a standard to set.

Exactly.

I mean, for everyone to see that and be like, that's, and also Hitler was so mad.

Yes, I know.

I love that.

It's so good.

But it also just makes me think about it.

I'll just say this very quickly.

But I just had this very old white lady realization.

People talk about Black excellence.

Because when you marginalize any group and you basically are just like, oh, no matter

what you do, you won't be good enough, then it just like, then the levels go up and up

and up.

You can't just be okay at something.

You have to be the actual best to get anyone to take you seriously.

He had to win the Olympics.

So everyone on Pepper Street was cool with the Robinson family.

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So Jack starts going to school at Pasadena Junior College and plays football, baseball, and

basketball.

His athletic abilities draw immediate attention and he's recruited by basically any university

that will accept black students.

So a wealthy Stanford college alum offers to pay Jack's tuition at any school that he

wants to go to as long as that school doesn't play against Stanford.

So you can't go here, but we really don't want to ever play against you.

That's how good you are.

But hold on a second.

Yeah.

Don't you think this is a little bit of an insight into the way rich people have been

rigging the game?

Absolutely.

No, it's absolutely a bullshit.

But I mean, like, I've never heard of that.

Yeah.

That's cheating.

This is fucking crazy.

Yeah.

And it's not like, well, why not just let black people in?

No, we just don't.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

we don't do that.

For other reasons, and because this would rule out, many major West Coast schools, Jack turns

the offer down and attends UCLA where he plays football, basketball, and baseball.

Wow.

But in the spring during the baseball season, he also runs track.

So he's doing everything at UCLA where like the bar is high.

You have to be good at every, like, yes.

But also then that's great conditioning, like in between your sport, you're just doing

more sports.

Totally.

So that's four sports.

He letters in all of them.

Okay.

So Ali wrote this in the research on one occasion during a football game.

He had a 65 yard punt return.

And I was like, I don't know what that means.

And I don't know how to know if that's good or not.

So I turned to this.

I was sitting there, I go Vince, what's a good punt return number?

And he gave me some numbers.

And then he goes like, he got like, quote, quote, 40 is like, whoa.

So I've said, so 65 yard punt returned.

His voice, like, is like a double wow.

Yeah.

And the University of Washington fans who are playing UCLA, they join in giving him a standing

ovation when he does that against their team because it's so unheard of.

I know a lot of things make me cry.

Yeah.

But when the opposite team starts cheering and they go above and beyond, they're like,

just competition.

This is, yeah, you have to give it up for this.

Totally.

So amazing.

And oh, he told me the average is nine to 10 in pro and 40 is like, whoa, nine to 10 yards.

Yeah.

For a proper turn.

Ask your dad.

I love learning.

It's during his college sports career that the press gives him the name Jackie.

All of his family always calls him Jack.

So Jackie is just a nickname that he doesn't even use.

Oh, okay.

So interesting.

But I'm going to call him Jack's and that's his name.

Okay.

Well, they're covering his incredible talent.

They often add an incredibly offensive racist tropes in their writing, which surprises

no one.

During Jack's senior year, he meets a freshman nursing student named Rachel Isom and

she's the daughter of a disabled world war one vet.

Actually, you want to see some pictures?

Yes, please.

So let's see some pictures of Jackie sportsy pictures.

There's like some good close up photos of yeah, there we go.

That one.

Wow.

I know.

I mean, it's so hard to be get at every sport.

Totally.

It's so crazy.

This is Jack with Rachel Isom, which will be his future wife.

Look at her.

Is she not the cutest?

They both have such perfect faces.

I mean, they're gorgeous.

They're so gorgeous.

So sorry, you get to be good at every single sport and hot and super hot and then get the

cutest wife on the planet.

So she's a nursing student, Rachel.

Is the daughter of a disabled world war one vet and her mom owns her own very successful

catering business.

And at this point, there's a small number of black students at UCLA, Rachel being one

of them.

And she knows of Jack, of course, because he's locally famous as the athlete.

And she had expected him to be cocky and annoying because of this.

Someone wanted to set them up.

She's pleasantly surprised.

Their first date is at the UCLA homecoming dance at the built more hotel.

And they quickly fall in love and become a serious couple.

I mentioned going to like a dance with a guy that's the star of every single sport and

game.

Yeah.

She talks in the in the Ken Burns documentary and there's so much more about her.

I'm I'm unhappy to have to leave out for time, but she talks about her expectations of

him and how wrong she was because he was so great.

Yeah.

After Jack graduates, he moves to Honolulu to play for a regional football team called

the Bears.

He lives Honolulu on December 5, 1941, which you know is two days before the attack on Pearl

Harbor.

You were going to say that.

I wasn't.

I wanted to interrupt you so badly.

So he's at sea, like coming back home on a fucking ship when Pearl Harbor is attacked.

Wow.

So he enlists in the army shortly after long story there, but in the end, he asks to leave

the military and is granted an honorable discharge.

After leaving the army, Jack goes to play baseball in what's called the Negro leagues.

While many of the players, Jackie comes across are incredibly talented in this league.

He's frustrated by the lack of resources available to the teams.

He's equally frustrated by the racist treatment his team gets when traveling.

So there are some gas stations that won't allow black people to use the bathrooms.

And so he implements this tradition where if they won't let us use the bathroom, we're

not purchasing gas from them.

And you know, it's the 30s and 40s.

Money is needed for these gas stations.

And so they end up getting to use the bathroom a lot of times because of this rule because

they stand up for themselves.

All through the 30s and into the 40s, there's been discussion about integrating major league

baseball.

Mostly there's been pressure from black sports writers and progressive groups, but not

a huge amount of interest within the MLB or many of the team managers, of course.

There isn't an official rule keeping black players out of the major leagues, but there's

an unspoken one.

So a man named Branch Ricky, the manager of the Brooklyn Dodgers, what was then the Brooklyn

Dodgers was and later to become the Los Angeles Dodgers.

So I didn't even know that.

You've been to so many games.

You had no idea.

Actually have a Brooklyn Dodgers shirt.

They like put out old, tiny ones.

That's cool.

Really cute.

That's cute.

That's why I got it.

It's cute and I love fashion.

So this guy, Branch Ricky of the Brooklyn Dodgers, wants to be the first manager to sign

a black player.

He wants this for a few reasons.

The first is that he's a devout Christian, and he thinks it's the right thing to do.

The second is that he sees the caliber of athletes that are playing in the Negro leagues,

and he wants those athletes playing on his team.

So he's not a racist like everybody else essentially.

Yeah, he's normal.

The third is that he thinks having black players will bring more people to the ballpark.

He knows that they're just, they have this huge audience in black baseball fans that are

not spending their money watching baseball.

No value in the segregation whatsoever.

There's no reason.

Exactly.

And this is at odds with the attitude over at the Yankees, also in New York, of course,

who specifically do not want black baseball fans at the park, and they make no secret

of this.

So Ricky starts to focus on Jack specifically.

He's heard about his several brushes with the law that Jacky's had in the past, and

he's actually drawn to this because he knows that whoever the first black player is in

the major leagues is going to face significant pushback.

So he wants someone who has experience with this and someone who can take it in a way,

and has the urge to fight back, but also has the strength to temper this urge.

So has been tested and has come out a better person for it.

So what's any black player?

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, that's a good point.

Meanwhile, Jack and Rachel get married in February of 1946.

He's 26 and she's 23.

And for a season, he plays in Montreal with the Royals, which is the Dodgers Farm team,

kind of like a tryout team.

And then later that year, he and Rachel have their first child together named Jackie Junior.

Would he laugh?

Yeah.

When you said, Royale, like that, I was going to say Royale with you.

I know.

I always thought I'd stop talking.

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The stewardesses were so beautiful.

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It was the most sexist job I think you could have.

In this era, the airlines told these stewardesses they have to be single.

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For the following season in the spring of 1947, Jackie is called up to the major leagues

and makes his debut at Ebets Field with the Dodgers on April 15th.

He was opening game against the Boston Braves who would later move to Milwaukee and later

Atlanta.

You knew that.

I knew that whole journey.

Same.

Jackie does not get a hit, but he also doesn't strike out.

In the bottom of the seventh inning, Jackie tries to bunt a runner ahead, which would generally

result in him being thrown out.

But he's, I don't know what I'm saying right now, but he's so fast he forces a throwing

error and gets on base because of that.

So we're just getting on base.

Yeah, it's big.

He ends up scoring the go ahead run.

And then it says in Ali wrote, the run that breaks a tie putting the batting team in the

lead got it and the Dodgers win five to three.

So he does win his first game, even though he didn't score up.

Well, it sounds like he was kind of the reason that stuff scored the.

Yeah, exactly.

That's good.

And that the Dodgers at this time are often bad beginning each season with high hopes

and generally ending in disappointment.

But the previous season, they had placed second in the national league.

And the hope is that this will finally be their year.

So teams vote to strike about the integration.

But ultimately though, no teams actually strike.

Instead, they play the games as scheduled.

But this means Jackie faces constant physical and verbal abuse from opposing players and

fans.

And the Phillies come to Ebbets field, their manager, Ben Chapman, not only joins his players

and taunting Jackie from the dugout, but he leads the taunts.

He relentlessly yells racist cheers at him throughout the entire game.

So he's playing against that too.

He also encounters physical abuse on the field, pictures throw the ball at his head.

When he's batting, Jackie has to be moved from second base to first base to make it less

likely that runners will purposely slide into him with their spikes.

Because you know, you slide into second.

I know that into third, second and third.

Oh, they moved to first, but it still happens several times during that first season, even

though it's not fucking necessary.

Yeah, no one sliding into first and somehow he's still getting him exactly.

Jackie's performance grows steadily better and better over the course of the season.

I mean, he's the guinea pig.

He's the Ruby Bridges of baseball.

Right.

And he's like, well, I'm going to put his not six years old proof that.

Right.

Yes.

Yeah.

And the Dodgers are winning games.

Jackie plays with a level of speed and daring that is unusual in the major leagues, but is

more common in the Negro leagues where he first played professionally.

So this is nothing for him.

He's known for stealing bases, particularly for stealing home, which isn't normal.

It requires perfect timing and judgment.

By the summer, the Dodgers are in first place in the national league.

Jackie is a local hero in New York and he's a national hero on the road attracting new

black fans who want to watch him play in every city the Dodgers go to.

That must have been so exciting.

Yeah.

I think we've got some photos from that era.

Showman is military uniform.

Oh my God.

I know.

Wow.

Oh, the photo of him stealing a base.

Yeah.

Oh my God.

So good.

It almost makes you want to follow sports or something.

It seems like they're doing exciting stuff over there.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

Same summer Cleveland, an American league team, also signs of black player Larry Dobby.

Now Major League Baseball is integrating in both leagues because you know, there's two

and then they play against each other and then that's right.

I know that.

I sure do know that.

After winning a series against the St. Louis Cardinals, the Dodgers become the national

league champions.

Jackie has the most home runs doubles, runs scored and has the most stolen bases in the entire

national league.

A.K.A.

Fuck you.

Exactly.

Come at me, bro.

Yeah.

The World Series ends in heartbreak though when the Dodgers lose in seven games to the Yankees.

Oh, that had to.

Yeah.

But they got there.

That is so much further than they were.

That's right.

In the 1948 season, Jackie hits about as well as he had previously, but he has fewer

stolen bases and the Dodgers don't do as well.

But in 1949, they once again win the national league pennant, but lose to the Yankees again

in the World Series.

In 1950, Jackie plays himself in the movie, the Jackie Robinson story, and this, to some

extent, in trying some of the myths that are bandied about Jackie never fighting back

and whatnot.

In reality, during this era in his baseball career, he was actually becoming more bold

in challenging empires when they made bad calls against him, which were likely influenced

by racism.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

At this point, there were a handful of black players scattered across the major league

and several on the Dodgers.

On one occasion, an anonymous letter threatens to kill Jackie Robinson and Don Newcombe, another

black player, if they enter the field in Cincinnati.

FBI agents position themselves all over the stadium, but nothing happens.

Throughout the first half of the 1950s, the Dodgers have some great seasons, but never

get that World Series win.

Jackie's also faced with a setback of being diagnosed at the age of 33 with diabetes

and heart disease.

He doesn't bring this diagnosis up with the team and with treatment.

He's still playing while he and Rachel have two more children at this point, Sharon and

David.

Actually, let's see the family photo.

It's so cute.

Oh, my God.

So cute.

Oh, that was trophies, too.

Yeah.

I bet there's a lot of pressure.

It's like your uncle was an Olympic, right?

Right.

Right.

Father is the best baseball player ever now.

Right.

Well, the Dodgers keep losing the World Series to the Yankees.

Robinson is critical of the team as a racist institution and points out in interviews that

they have yet to integrate the Yankees.

Well, at this point, many other teams in baseball have.

And Rachel herself says she finds this northern flavor of racism even more insidious than

in the South because it pretends not to be racist.

That's fucking right on.

She encounters it repeatedly when they try to buy a house in Westchester and in Connecticut

and sellers either refuse to show their homes or yank them off the market when the Robinson's

make an offer.

Wait, I think you're about to tell my favorite story about Carly Simon's family.

Oh, my God.

Did you know?

I didn't know this.

I saw it.

And it was just like, wait, what?

I was like, is this real?

It's real.

Finally, singer Carly Simon's mother, Andrea Simon, this blew my mind, too, whose husband

is co-owner of Simon and Schuster.

Yeah, she's big money.

Yeah.

That's the publishing place.

Yeah, I had no idea.

So this Carly Simon's family helps the Robinson's by property and Stanford, Connecticut,

and the Robinson's live with the Simon's while their house is being built.

So essentially, they went in and basically did all the paperwork as if they were the ones

doing it and got everything approved and then let them live their song credible.

That's like beyond just being friendly.

Yeah, exactly.

Well, that's you have your eyes on a real future of how it's supposed to be as opposed

to what it's like right now and then you're doing something to try to get there.

Boom, exactly.

The Robinson kids are the first black kids in their school and they are excluded from

country clubs, hockey rinks, and dance schools.

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Goodbye.

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Welcome aboard season 6 of The Girlfriends.

Flight or fight, which takes place 30,000 feet in the sky.

There's great food, comfortable chairs, and attentive stewardesses.

The stewardesses were so beautiful.

But in reality, the stewardess job is far less glamorous than it appears.

It was the most sexist job I think you could have.

In this era, the airlines told these stewardesses they have to be single.

They had no good excuse for why they wouldn't let women be married.

They have to be skinny.

We were starving ourselves.

And they have to be young.

You would retire at age 32.

But one day, a group of stewardesses said,

This has got to stop.

They risked it all, turning a fight for fairness into a revolution.

Starting to The Girlfriends, Flight or Fight, on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts.

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In 1955, the Dodgers once again faced the Yankees in the World Series.

Jackie and his mid-30s at this point is not as fast as he once was.

I guess in baseball, that's old.

It's very important.

Yeah, mid-30s.

But he steals home for the 19th time in his career during this series.

In game seven, the Dodgers win, earning the Dodgers their first championship in their 72-year

history.

I just realized that in the other two times when they lost to the Yankees, that was Brooklyn

versus New York City.

Yeah, that would be a funny experience.

That's so intense.

That would be wild.

Crazy.

And they do it with roughly equal numbers of black and white players in the lineup against

the all-white Yankees.

Yeah, that would have been so good.

So good.

I know.

That's good.

Jackie plays one final season with the Dodgers helping them once again when the National

League Championship.

And they lose to the Yankees in the 1956 World Series, unfortunately.

Jackie retires at the age of 38.

His legacy has opened the door for some of baseball's greatest players like Willie Mays.

Willie Mays.

And Hank Aaron, who will become legendary.

In 1958, the Brooklyn Dodgers moved to Los Angeles because they don't agree with New

York City planner Rob Moses' plan to move the stadium to Queens.

Moses' vision for New York was car-centric and achieving this vision to move to Queens

would destroy a lot of minority neighborhoods.

But let's talk about Chavez-Rovine for a hot minute.

But it's how they do it every time.

Yeah.

Where are we going to put this freeway?

Yeah, that's not what this is about today.

But let's not forget Chavez-Rovine, which is a vibrant working class Mexican-American

community in Los Angeles at one point.

Anyway, in 1962, Jackie is inducted into the baseball hall of fame in his first year of

eligibility.

Throughout the 1960s, he participates in the Civil Rights Movement, joining Martin Luther

King Jr. for many events and speaking engagements.

The whole Robinson family attends the march on Washington in August of 1963.

Jackie writes newspaper comms expressing his support for candidates, whom he thinks

will further civil rights causes.

Jackie also helps open the Freedom National Bank, a black-owned bank that focuses on securing

loans for black people who were discriminated against by other financial institutions and

the banks of big success.

In 1971, Jackie Robinson, Jr.

was the first child dies in a car accident at the age of 24.

He had fought in Vietnam, struggled with, and overcame a drug addiction after returning

home and had become a counselor for other people battling addiction.

It's tragic.

Just one year later, Jackie Robinson dies at the age of 54 of a heart attack in October

of 1972.

His life, the amount of stress that man had to just deal with for his entire career in life

is wild.

Yeah, for sure.

Crazy.

Well, he's having a heart attack.

He comes running out of his room, hugs Rachel and says, I love you to her as he sinks to

the floor.

Oh, she was the love of his life.

Oh, God.

Just nine days before his death, he had thrown out the ceremonial first pitch at the World

Series in Cincinnati, the city where he had received death threats 30 years earlier.

Jackie had made a brief speech at the appearance saying, quote, I'm extremely proud and pleased

to be here this afternoon, but must admit, I'm going to be tremendously more pleased and

more proud when I look at that third base coaching line one day and see a black face managing

in baseball.

End quote.

This will happen a few years later in 1975.

Many people believe that the integration of baseball was a pivotal moment that helped

give rise to the later civil rights movement.

In the Ken Burns documentary, President Barack Obama says quote, Jackie Robinson lay the

foundation for America to see its black citizens as subjects and not just objects.

It meant that there were six and seven and eight year old boys who suddenly thought a black

man was a hero.

End quote.

Jackie's wife, Rachel Robinson, is still alive and recently celebrated her 104th birthday.

What?

What?

In this past July, 2026.

Did she still live in in her house in Connecticut?

I don't know.

What's going on?

In 1973, after her husband's death, she started the Jackie Robinson foundation, which provides

scholarships and mentoring opportunities to minority students.

She did this in addition to being a psychiatric nurse.

Hey, like your mom.

Hey there.

An assistant professor at Yale and a director of nursing at the Connecticut Mental Health Center.

Wow.

So this woman on her own is just legendary.

If she's anything like my mother, she's not fucking around.

She never remarried.

Oh, don't.

I know.

I know.

It's hard.

In 1997, Jackie's number 42 is retired from all of baseball, meaning that no player can

wear it again.

It's common for individual teams to retire a number for one of the grades.

I didn't know this, but Jackie's the only player to have his number retired across all

of baseball.

She's going to cry, you guys.

Well, I was going to yell, fuck all y'all, but that's because I really just

want to cry because this is a man who then he had to be the cutting edge.

He had to be.

He was the tool by which all of that integration happened.

And then he got to live to see the day where it was happening and was real.

On April 15th, each year, the anniversary of Jackie's first major league game, all major

league players were special uniforms with his number 42 in observance of Jackie Robinson

day.

And that is the story of baseball legend Jackie Robinson.

Well, I mean, I think this change of pace suits us because we get to enjoy a new thing.

We get to meet a hero.

I've watched some stuff on Jackie Robinson, but it is just so incredible to hear the details

of what a difficult life adds up to.

The thing you can't imagine or think about or rarely do when you're in the shit is that

the shit is the stairs by which you climb up to the top.

Yeah.

And you got to get in there and do it.

Yeah, definitely.

And the inspiration, you can be to other people.

You can play first base Georgetown.

Me?

Yes.

Or third.

No, thank you.

Yes, you can.

And it gets hot dog.

Put your hand up.

Share it on.

Put your...

No, I don't.

No, I don't.

I'm on this team.

Get serious.

Amazing.

Well, that was great job.

Thank you so much.

That is a solo episode.

When will it come out?

Who knows?

What will happen?

Oh my God.

Well, until that happens, stay sexy.

And don't get murdered.

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