Mark Epstein Challenges Official Story in OIG Interview on Epstein’s Death (Part 1) (3/4/26)

0:00Well, some fools, men of the J.U. So here from the WWE. When it's just me between matches, it's day one itch. And that means it's Chumba time. With hundreds of Casino style games and new titles arriving weekly, there's always something fresh to try at Chumba Casino. The daily booze make it even more fun. And have me, bout to get them all during my downtime. Ready for a fun way to chill out and enjoy a few minutes for yourself? Let's Chumba. No purchase necessary. VGW Group Void were prohibited by law, CTs and Cs. 21 Plus sponsored by Chumba Casino. What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. Folks, I have hit the mother load when it comes to OIG witness interviews in regards to the death of Jeffrey Epstein. Not only did we just go through the Michael Thomas deposition, well now I also found the depositions for all the other corrections officers that were brought in for questioning. And you know what else I found?

1:01The OIG interview with Mark Epstein. So in this episode, we're gonna begin taking a look at that interview. And we're gonna see what Mark Epstein had to say to the OIG inspectors about the death of his brother, Jeffrey Epstein. So they swear I'm in. We're gonna skip all of that. But they swear I'm in. And then they start asking the questions. And the person asking the questions is redacted. With Mark Epstein is his lawyer, Mr. Richmond. Question, just for the record, your Mark Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein's brother. Mark Epstein, yes, question. And I understand that basically you reached out through attorney Richmond, you reached out to us and you stated that there were a few things you wanted to share with the OIG. Mark Epstein, yes, question, go ahead. You can go ahead, Epstein, okay.

2:02Redacted, let me just ask some like just or ask to maybe see his license just so we can verify, redacted, yeah, question. If you don't want to ask him for his date of birth, redacted, yeah, can we verify? Epstein, sure, question. Or you can just ask your birthday, date of birth. Epstein, oh, it's only my driver's license. Redacted, Mr. Mark Epstein has shown me a photo, driver's license, and it has his picture on it and it states his name on it. Just for the record, here is my credential. Epstein, okay. Redacted, I'm special agent. Redacted with DOJ, OIG, Epstein, okay. Redacted, and these are my credentials, senior special agent. Blah, blah, blah. Epstein, okay, as I mentioned before, you came, I told him that when I first heard a Jeffrey's death, I just assumed that it was the suicide because it was reported as such and at the time, I had no reason to doubt it. And I just respected his decision to take himself out.

3:04But then, as things progressed, and when more information came out, it looks like if you just look at the information, there is no way in the world. You would say that this is the suicide. The first thing being the autopsy, the autopsy was conducted the next day. It was conducted by the city pathologist. And I was right. I was able to get a pathologist to witness this and had Dr. Bodden. I don't know if you know Dr. Bodden, but you can't get. Richmond cuts him off. He's the former chief medical examiner of the city of New York. Richmond, so he went back to his office because he was hired by Mark to review and be present at the autopsy. Epstein, yeah, normally, if I hire a forensic pathologist to review the autopsy, he has a right to just stand there and watch. And then we can get the body afterwards to do a second autopsy, if needed. But because of who redacted is, they did whatever he requested them to do with the autopsy. So there was no need for a second autopsy.

4:07Redacted also had been on the special commission investigating prison deaths since the Attica riots in 70. Redacted here is Dr. Bodden. So he's been doing this for a long time. There is no better authority in prison deaths than Dr. Bodden and the city pathologist came out with Dr. Bodden and her determination was, she could not call this a suicide. There were too many unquestionable things, you know, like the broken bones in his neck and and Bodden confirmed that he also not to call this a suicide. It looks much more like a homicide plus there were the wounds on his body. I'm like I have pictures I could show you and then when we get the death certificate to move to claim the body, the cause of death was pending, you know, pending for investigation. And then a few days later, the chief medical examiner of New York declares it a suicide. Richmond, just to clarify, we found out through the media that we're going to make that change. So we called the medical examiner's office,

5:08asking how come you haven't notified the family and what is the central reason for changing that? We interviewed them for about an hour and we discovered that they really didn't have much of a basis, but everyone was just closing the investigation. And when I persisted is when I learned that the camera on the floor where Mr. Epstein's cell was had been corrupted. And no one had actually viewed that camera. Mr. Epstein, now one of the questions about the camera on the tear, I don't know, there's some pictures of, you know, we're walking through the tear and indesernable all the cameras, right? That camera wasn't working. So one of the questions I have is when did the camera stop working? When was the last time that camera actually took a picture? And, you know, have they determined why that camera wasn't working where the wires cut, was it unplugged or, you know, why was that camera not working? There is an answer to that, you know, and I'm going to get it. I had, I could start showing some pictures, but to keep going on, you know, because they did, they swabbed under autopsy report,

6:11they swabbed his fingers for DNA evidence in case somebody was there. Was that ever checked? I never saw the results of that DNA testing, you know, nothing has been indesernable for that. And one of the things that lit up my mind on top of this, one of the big things is that attorney general Barr made a statement saying that he viewed the camera, that was outside of the tear, that showed the door and the guards, and that's directly right between, that the guards were just, you know, jerking off or indesernable web or whatever they were doing, making sure that video tape, and he said, he said that nobody went, that he personally saw it, which I thought was strange, you know, that nobody went in or out of that tear. So that convinced them that it was a suicide. You guys are professional investigators, I am not. But for me, the lights went off. I said either this is the stupidest guy on the planet, or if Jeffrey was killed, the killer was already on the tear. So it's just things that might come into the tear to kill him. I mean, there's too many witnesses.

7:12How do you get somebody in or out? But if he was killed, the killer was already on the tear. So for him to make the statement that no one went in or out, that convinced him it was a suicide. I mean, that's like, I think we agree. It was like an amateur mistake in the investigation because there were a number of people inside, right? Well, let me pull up something to show you. Redacted on that note, do you have any information that anyone actually was in the cell? Epstein, there was nobody in his cell. Richmond, well, was he gets cut off by Epstein? There was supposed to be somebody in his cell because he was supposedly on suicide watch doing whatever and he was released and there was supposed to be somebody in his cell and there wasn't. And he was taken out. He was alone that night in his cell. And so other like just evidentiary things, they report that he was found on responsive in his cell. And then he was taken to the hospital. He wasn't found on responsive. He was found dead, okay? Jeffrey was dead for a minimum of two hours

8:13before they found them. And I will show you how we know that. Richmond also talk about the description of the indesernable. Epstein, yeah, yeah, yeah, a whole bunch of things. I have a list of the number of the photos. I left it at home, unfortunately, but I'll pull them up and have a look. Redacted, now are you going to show us why you know that he was dead for at least two hours? Epstein, yeah. Question, okay, Epstein, I'm going to get to that picture as soon as I can. Redacted, just for the recording, I'm just going to state that Mr. Epstein has his own laptop and he is providing us. He's just going to explain the pictures to us. Epstein, yeah, pictures in your custody. Epstein, yeah, also in the autopsy. Richmond and the picture is from the autopsy. Redacted, from the autopsy, Epstein, they also found, you know, three broken bones in his neck, which is extremely rare to have broken bone when you don't have what's called a soft hanging. You have like Robin Williams hung himself

9:13with the bathroom thing, with the belt thing. There are soft hangings, you usually don't break bones. And he had three breaks, which is one of the reasons they thought it was more like a homicide. Question, so what you're looking at is, do you know which bones we're talking about? Epstein, it's the higher bone, something like the indesernable is what it's called. Redacted and did they ever Epstein cut them off and it really isn't, he gets cut off, discuss anything about chest compressions without potentially have happened during CPR. Epstein, no, Richmond, no, Epstein. This is the neck. Richmond, chest compressions are lower. Epstein, yeah, chest compressions, it can break a rib, not the higher. Richmond's so Epstein, it felt pretty useful. See, this is the camera that wasn't working. Redacted, right? Epstein, that would show him indesernable. Question, and they provided you with all of this? Epstein, yeah. Question, okay.

10:16Redacted, really? Richmond, aha. Question, oh, for the statement of information. Richmond, that was just released and announced by indesernable. Epstein, do you guys indesernable with murder investigations? Is that part of the normally? I mean, do you have like any forensic experience on that? Redacted. So our investigation pertains to the death of he gets cut off by Epstein. All right. Then he gets cut off by the guy asking the questions, Jeffrey, Epstein, okay. One thing I'll show you now before we get to is that the only way they was trying to say that well, he put a noose on his neck and sort of jumped off the top bunk. That would give him that break or it would be harsh. You know, like if you saw a Shawshank redemption when Brooks kicked himself off the chair, you know, the fall down. That's indesernable because it has to be harsh like that. The top bunk in Jeffrey's cell was filled with his medication indesernable.

11:16Nobody was on that bunk. Nobody jumped off that bunk. I'm just looking for the neck pictures. Also, let me get back for one second. Should I apologize for not having that list? Mr. Richmond indesernable. Epstein also what another question I have is who is in charge in the prison? First of all, they move the body, which you're not supposed to do. And supposedly they indesernable, you know, when they find a dead body in prison, they're not supposed to move it. They're supposed to get the medical examiner's office indesernable. Surprise. I mean, they had it look like he was moved. Now, if you saw the photographs, when they took him out of the hospital, he was on a gurney and he was innovated. They were trying to squeeze the tube with no air in it. It said he's dead for two hours. Why were they trying to make it look like he was alive? The EMTs, and I would like to talk to them, it's redacted, and I think it's indesernable them to EMTs, if I recall, they're the EMTs that were actually in the cell.

12:18Redacted, okay, Epstein. Now, just let me go back one second. Here's another picture of the top bunk. You see, nobody was there, so I would like to talk to those two guys. Redacted? Yeah. Epstein, this is the news, right? Look at that. When the guards found him, the guy was indesernable. He's saying that he cut him down. And I think the guard said Michael Thomas, the guard that found him, he said he cut him down. You see the edge of his news thing? That's him dead. That wasn't cut, okay? If this was tied to something, this would be wrinkled. It would be marked from there, you know, like here, you see like creases in this part, there would be something here showing that this was tied to something, okay? Here's another question I have. He was dead when they took him in, when they found him. And he was wearing, I check through someone who was there who said, I guess, that he was wearing in the cell, and he was wearing his orange boxer shorts and T-shirt, the prison clothing. A question, okay, Epstein, they take his dead body out

13:19and it was either they cut the stuff off of him because I have pictures of the boxer shorts cut who dressed the dead body with the hospital gown. Okay, dead bodies, you cover with the sheet. He wasn't going to run down the hall in the hospital with his balls flapping in the wind. He didn't have to hide, so who made that decision? Now I know that when they took him to the hospital, there were four people in the room and somebody had a handheld video. And like they were working down at the hospital, where's the tape? Redacted, okay. How do you know that? Epstein, I was told. Question, okay, also, there is a question of, why was he moved? Because you know, you know, what indesernable is? Redacted, yes, Epstein, you know, you die, you fall on your back, your gut turns purple because you indesernable. Question, okay, Epstein, now he was moved. So I want to find out from Michael Thomas what position was Jeffrey in when he found them. And I'll know the answer to that

14:20because he was sitting like right by indesernable, you know, you're asked in the back, your legs are going to go, you know, if you're leaning forward, doing it that way, but indesernable, your legs are going to go. You know, so what position was he in after they found them? Question, so you said Michael Thomas made statements, which statements indesernable? Epstein, well, he said he cut him down. Question, where did you get that statement from? Epstein, it was in the paper, Mr. Richman, it was, Epstein, that was that. Question like recently, or was that Epstein? No, question at the time, Epstein at the time. Richman at the time. They hadn't received the statements from him then, did they? Epstein, yeah, he was indesernable at the time, but you know, he said, I mean, that's what he said. He would cut him down and said, you fucked up, or you messed up, you know, when the supervisor, he said he messed up and he didn't do the checks or something to that effect.

15:20Question, okay. All right, so we're going to wrap up right here and then the next episode dealing with the topic, we're going to pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box. Drew McIntyre here from WWE. Weild and the Claymore can be a life of chaos, but I'm not dominating in the ring. Chumba Casino is how this warrior takes a rebrate with hundreds of online social games and new weekly releases. There's always something fresh to try. And those daily boosts, next level, even my free time feels like foul-hallen. So when life feels like a foul, kick up your feet, have some fun and let's chumba. No purchase necessary, VGW Group, void were prohibited by law, CTs and Cs, 21 plus sponsored by Chumba Casino.