Love Is Blind Season 10 Finale Recap

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1:14Hello and welcome to our coverage of Love Is Blind. Season 10. I'm Asia and I'm very excited. We talk about the remainder of the weddings. We have so much discussed. So many. I do and I don't. Some neither of those. But we'll unpack all of it. You know, when I get ready for a podcast. I just channeled the days I used to play basketball. And I'm just like, oh my gosh, okay. I remember being with my teammates. Like I am today, right? And I remember tying up my shoes. And just like when a podcast starts, you know, if I make a funny joke, it's like hitting a three pointer. You know, and so this is nothing to me. Getting on here. Speaking of however many people, this is nothing. Because of my days as a high school basketball player. I just need a job and know that. Okay. So here I am with two of my teammates.

2:16We're three of us starting five. First up, we have Mary Kowalski. Mary, how are you? Well, I didn't play basketball, but I did run cross country. And I would say that like when I get on to a podcast, I feel like, you know, it's like we've done the huddle. We've we've already had spirit week. We've already gotten everything out of our system. And we're standing at the start line. And we just know that it's going to be a hard sprint for the next three miles. But then they'll be orange slices at the end and chocolate milk. So, you know, really, there's no reason to panic. Because we've prepped for this. We're ready for this. Yeah. As soon as we hit in recording, there will be orange slices and milk that enter all three of our rooms. It's great. It's a really, really great door dash system that Rob has set up for us. Yes. Rob is so amazing for that. We also have here. Hello, there's a little sweetie. Jasonery.

3:16Jason, how are you? I'm great. And I would say for me, podcasting is like podcasting. Mostly because of that. Mostly because of the play sports as a kid. But podcasting is like podcasting. You know, because when you get ready to face the public, face the lights and the media and all that, you get ready. I write for your opinions and your hot thoughts. But you got to be ready to face them. You got to be ready to stand up tall. Say what you mean and mean what you say. That's kind of what podcasting is like to me. Kind of like podcast, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love podcasting. This podcast. It's like a podcast to me. Yeah. For real. Like I'm here in the stream yard. Like we're in the podcasting locker room before the show starts. So chopping it up, you know, I can do. Get hyped. You should just see it as just big motivational speech to get us kids ready for the podcast. We get on 10.

4:16Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. And man. And when we come to podcast, we come ready. We come presentable. We come to play. We come to play. Yes. We come to podcast. That's what we do. We come presentable. We know that we are on camera. You know, and it's like, Hey, we came looking how we look now because we knew that we were coming to podcast. You know, some people show up to places looking in any kind of way, you know, not that we're going to talk about one of those today. But I clearly have strong opinions about that. We got all. We got all the food out of our beards. We. We have all of our hair in place. And we're ready to podcast. Great. I don't know what I'm talking about. Probably Alex out of page. Forget it. All I have in my notes during that whole section was just, oh, great. More sports metaphors. That man loves. I said, I did see a Tik Toks and someone saying, Kid.

5:17Without any context, please tell me what this man is preparing for. It was literally just the whole buildup. It's like, you would never know. He's. He's a stoic Asia, okay? You can't put the man down for me and snow it. How could I forget? I might have said this last episode, but I want someone like note this and let me know a year from now. If we're following the next season and I start talking about how, oh, and Alex remember he was such a villain, but now he's so funny on TikTok, don't let me. I don't wanna ever support this man. Don't let me fall into that trap because let me tell you, there have been a couple. There have been a couple from the last few seasons that are hilarious now and I don't remember if I hated them or not, but they're funny now. Like who, Nick? Was that his name? I can't remember anybody's names. From either last season or the season before and his thing was like people,

6:19people couldn't understand what he was saying because he just came to the party's really intoxicated. And he was like, he does make a lot of content now. Yeah, what's that guy's name? Like did we just test him or did we just think that he was a key? I don't remember. Yeah, I think Ike. Like he just wasn't into his partner. He's funny now. Well, I can guarantee you, Alex will be trying to make content because this man is already on cameo. He has one review that's a one star. At the time of this recording, he has one review that's a one star that says he did not give much effort and it was short and no effort, no integrity. Oh, great. Yeah. Well, see the thing is Alex doesn't care about the level of effort he gives. He just doesn't care. That's not what he is. He's not like this, I have emotions. He just doesn't let himself get robbed up. He's confident in that way. So confident, so confident.

7:21All right, before we get into this, make sure you go subscribe to the Love It First Site feed where you can get all of our podcasts about Love Is Blind, Meredith First Site, perfect match, ultimatum. Make sure you go subscribe anywhere you listen to your podcasts. Also subscribe to the RHAP YouTube channel. So you can see our lovely faces and know when we get back for Love Is Blind season 11, whenever that is. Sure, we'll find out at the reunion. Oh my goodness. Let's talk about how all these weddings unfolded. Before we use up all of our Alex content here up top. Let's go ahead and talk about not them. Let's go ahead and start where we left off, which was Emma and Mike. All right. So we know Emma's answer was yes. Okay, done deal.

8:21But then we get Mike's answer, which was, as we all predicted, I do love you, but I am not ready to say I do. It was shocked. Now, they're really stringing on us, like I do. And we're like, huh? Love you. That's, nope, that's never good for me. When I have to start qualifying things. It's like from jump, from the pods. We were talking about this. Mike wants kids. Emma is unsure and that is still the state of things right here on the other side of these decisions at the wedding is the fact that Mike wants kids and Emma is unsure. He needs Emma to be like a 100% and he said he couldn't have it any other way. Yeah, it's funny because when he gives his no, it feels like everyone in the audience is like relieved. Like, oh my gosh, like her family, his family, which is like, great, we love. They're talking to each other. I love that the parents were like, okay.

9:23There was no animosity here because like, and for whatever reason, I really can't stand the walks of shame that we make the different contestants do. It's like, well, I guess you got broken up with it. The altar, I guess I'll just walk down the altar by myself and go, please silence. Great, I love this for me. And yeah, like he goes to like, you know, talk to her and like it's all good. Like he's hugging the family. There's no, there's no Nancy and Bartis where Nancy and they went to like hunt this man down and murder him at the wedding. But yeah, they was all very like very, I don't know, very pleasant. I mean, yeah, we could have predicted all of this. I mean, we did. We said this from the very beginning. We said they have a deal breaker. And I don't know what's in this span of three weeks. Cause I mean, it's what we said. Like how in three weeks, is she ever going to a decide

10:24whether or not she wants kids or be like convinced you that she wants kids? Like I don't know how an emphatic should have had to be in a yes for him to actually like believe her and be like, I truly believe you want kids. I don't think they're would have ever been away. If she had come to him and been like, I'm ready for this. I want kids. I think he's so would have been like, what do you though? Like, are you sure? Like I think you might just be saying it. So I say yes at the altar. I don't I never think there was a possibility. You know, she would have had to come to him and say, I'm pregnant. You're right. That would have been the only way for him to believe. Grab the condoms like throw them in the garbage. Like we're done with those. Let's start making a baby right now. And I was a little confused because the producer at the end after like, you know, they're doing their little interviews is like, if she had said that she was 100% ready to have kids, would you have gotten married? And he said, yes. And I'm like, does he is the producer saying at the altar if she had said that or like, or in the past couple days, because I don't even think that. Like I don't think someone, she's not,

11:26she wasn't telling him like, oh, I'll make up my mind at the altar. It seems like, I don't know. She would have had to very quickly in this process told him. Personally, I look, I stand by what I've said this whole time. The in the pods, when she said she was not sure if she wanted kids, that's it. It should have ended there. If that is his number one criteria, because it really does feel like that was his number one criteria. I mean, I do think that they got along, obviously, and he liked her. And there had to have been a reason why, I'm sure there were other women in the pods who did want kids. And I don't know if he just didn't vibe with them. So I'm guessing he liked her the best, or you know, they connected the best. This wasn't a one way thing. But like, there had to have been a reason why he wasn't with someone else instead. And therefore, I don't think that was like his only criteria. But like, the fact that this is a deal-breaking criteria just means that I don't know why he continued.

12:28I, what's so, what bothers my mind is that we are here 12 episodes in, and we cannot name single quality about this man. What is he like? What is he, you know, is he booze me? What kind of personality does he have? We don't know anything about him. So we don't know what made them connect in the pods to be like, oh, this is my person. This is my second person, but now my person. Like, we don't know what made Mike and Emma be so drawn to each other because we don't know anything about, like, well, a lot about Mike, even Emma, we don't know them as people. I do kind of wonder if they were almost kind of like, not stuck together, but it just felt like they were that each other's only options at one point, because we never knew if Mike went on any other dates, because I think he mentioned a couple times in the pods, like, you're it for me, you're the only one. So he just didn't get it off of anyone else, and we know Emma's journey, like, Emma. Like, you know, a lot of other conversations, you know? Mike was Emma's number three at some point, right?

13:30Yeah. And like, we just whittled down all the other options, and just like, okay, like Mike has this kids thing, but we can figure it out. I guess I just really want to, I really want to try and get married. So it just felt like, it's like they were doing this to like, oh, all right, we'll see. We'll see, right? But then we just, we got down to the brass tax, and just like, yeah, I don't want, I'm not sure about kids. It's like, oh, that's not good enough for me. We're done. And like you said, Asia, Mike is just like a blank for me. And I feel the way about a couple people this season, we're just like, I don't know what you bring to this. I don't know why someone's falling in love with you. I don't know what you see the other person, what they see in you. When I look at Emma throughout the season, I'm just like, yeah, I don't, I don't know, I don't get it. They were just a huge question mark. It's like, if you ask anyone, Paul, every single person, no, just Paul, a hundred people who watch season 10 of Love is Blind, they're going to say, oh, that's the couple who didn't, couldn't figure it out about kids, right? Yeah, I think that's, that's something interesting about the seasons. It feels like all of the couples are narrowed down to one topic, right?

14:31Yeah. Amber Jordan, it's her kid. And then Mike gets kids in general. That's an actually, it's his shady past. They've really narrowed down and drilled down on one specific thing for almost every couple here. And it kind of, for me, lacks like, lacks some context for me for a couple, for a few of these couples. I mean, there's seven couples we followed this season. There's not enough time, unless you're extending these episodes to like an hour and a half. I really feel like I got the most content in the most context from Bri and Connor. And they're like, they're even bigger to both. Yeah, it's a very true. Yeah, I just, I thought it was funny that when she said, like, I see glimpses of a future with him when it was like, that gave me concepts of a plan. Yeah. Like, it's like, okay, Emma, glimpses of a future where this man is like, he wanted her, like, maybe to your question earlier

15:32about like, what could he have seen? Maybe if she were to say it with such certainty that that's what she envisioned. Like, I envision us married in a house, two little kids running around. Like, that's what he needed was that she could see it. But she's like, I don't know. So they just did that a line on that and they shouldn't on that in the pause. And we wouldn't even be talking about this. And I think he's like, his and his family's like, eternal, like, there is no divorce. Divorce is never an option. Really just kind of cuts that whole thing at the knees. I'm not even going to try and give us a shot and maybe you'll come around eventually. If you're not a hell yes right now, then it's a hell no for me at the altar. Yeah. He did say he was shocked, she said, yes. Which makes me think that they were one of the couples that, I mean, and people have been speculating that like, did they agree to say no beforehand and then she changed her mind? Yeah. That makes sense.

16:32I think she doesn't know he was a no when he went against the color scheme. Because remember the tux, when he was like, no, can't do him in night blue. And then he shows up at that wedding and the midnight blue tux is like, okay. And that made sure to bid our tip off of like, he's going to say no because you don't give an after all color scheme no more. He's going to wait until he wants to wear. Right. So yeah, there's that for them. I like to her little turn. He's like, she's like, yeah, I think love is blind but there's some big things that you can't be wind on. Like kids. As she goes, especially for him. Like, okay, I don't think it's that year that he was like, type of kids. Like, I know that I've seen some comments say things about like, oh, it's weird that he even like brought up the kid thing at the wedding or like that they don't like. Like, this is their whole story. This is the whole story that we've seen from the edit and it's his one big deal breaker. Yes, if you want kids, you're not going to most people are not going to change their stance on kids

17:34because they fall in love with someone in two weeks. Some people probably will. Not this man, for sure. And we saw Jordan. Yes. She's just answer something that can happen. But it doesn't, most people it doesn't. So I don't know why she was like surprised by that. I don't know. I think we said it before. Like, she comes across a little bit naive in a bit of this kind of stuff. So. Oh, yeah. It was it. Yeah, yeah. Not, not great for them. Do we think there's a future for them is the question? Because I mean, the way they work kind of phrasing things makes me think over. Makes me think she thinks not over. Kind of feel like he might think it's over. Well, he's like, I don't need her to be 99.1. And he's like, I need to know that if we do stay together, I need to know that she wants kids. Because it's kind of like you'd be going nowhere if she never changed her mind. Which is, that's no way to live, you know?

18:35Like, it's totally OK that he wants kids. And it's totally OK that she doesn't want kids. That does not mean that y'all have to be together. Because yeah, if he's just always going to be sitting on the edge of his seat, waiting for her to change her mind, what kind of life is that to live? Exactly. He's just waiting for the day. She's like, yes, I want it. She's going to wake up like faith. It happened. I want kids now. He's like, finally, even waiting for desire to want kids to come in, finally it's here. So do you think that they, on that note, do we think heading into the reunion that they tried to date for some time, or even are still together? I think they tried to date for a bit, but it just, like these things a lot of times do, just kind of fizzled out within a way. Because I mean, like, we say it's all married for sight a lot. Like, when you're, when people decide to, you know, just kind of say a part after their initial eight weeks,

19:38it's not going to be better after the camera's leave. Because when the camera's in for you to leave, it's real. There's no one around to kind of monitor you and to make sure that you are staying together, that you are talking about the right things. So I think left to your own devices, it's a lot easier to let things really wither and just go away. Yeah, exactly. That's what one of these people of the 14, we've discussed the season. One of these people is banking on that. They're banking on cameras and girls. Like, you, I'm not going to be held responsible for answering any phone calls. I can skulk away in the night. It's like this never happened. Exactly. I think they will have dated for a very short period of time, a couple of weeks kind of thing. But I think that he has probably realized, and I don't know. I think that he, to me, he screams like, I actually think both of them could have like, could be dating someone else by the time reunion happens. Yeah, to me, he seems like the kind of person who like,

20:40if he wasn't, if he hadn't already found someone who really wanted kids by him being on the show, I'm sure that people have watched a show and reached out to him. I'm like, I want kids happy, happy. Put it in me, Mike. Put it in me. No, I got it. Yeah. I do the, I did really like him going to like, talk to her after, like I thought that was, that just showed how much of a stand-up guy he is. It was just really sweet and kind of. That's a quality of stand-up guys going to go talk to your, right after you said no. After you said, well, I don't know. I actually asked you a different story. Yeah, he goes to check on her, but like, he makes me feel so okay. I like that. Yeah. Chronic migraine, 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting four hours or more, can make me feel like a spectator in my own life. Botox, on a botchaline, um, toxin A, prevents headaches and adults with chronic migraine. It's not for those with 14 or fewer headache days a month. It's the number one prescribed branded chronic migraine

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22:44and they really had us on the edge of our seat until his answer, because it was just like he was so nervous, he was visibly nervous leading up to being at the altar. Yeah, do you think that that was like a cop-out? I mean, it's not cop-out's not the right word. Do you think that they were trying to make us think he wasn't going to say yes, but like she seemed like she didn't think he would say yes either. I think they wanted to let us know he was super indecisive in those movements, because like there's a moment, like he's getting ready to walk down the aisle, and he like hugs his sister, he's like, I don't know what to do. This is like, I do think he, in the moment, made a decision. I think that's kind of who Jordan is. I don't think Jordan's a big planner. I think he's a big forward thinker. So I do think he kind of let his emotions guide him and he said, he's leading with his heart in the moment,

23:45and he said yes because of that. Now, will that present problems down the road? Probably, but I do think in that moment, he's like, you know what, we're here with all our family and friends. It would be pretty cool for me to say yes right now. I think it'd be really great. So that's kind of what he did. What really threw me off though, was her brother. Right before she walked down the aisle saying, I don't think he's going to say yes. Is this the time, bro? For you to right before you walk me down the aisle, and be like, you know what, don't get your hopes up. I think this guy's about to dump your ass. Like, if I was him, I would, like, it's like, what are you talking about? Yeah, way to make me nervous. And the way she's staring at him, like, I feel like he's like, if this camera was like here right now, I would tell you about yourself. She's like, do you like staring like, okay? Like, thanks. That was wild. It was so wild. Yeah, so that was like a little, that alone kind of made me think, okay,

24:45he's going to say yes because I was just thinking, they would want to surprise us that he says, no. And for her brother to say that, it's like they're even more so trying to set us up for a no. That's how I was like, oh, she must say yes. She was so ready for no. It felt like she was, it felt like she had prepared her whole, her whole side of the aisle to be like, it's going to be a no. Because when he says yes, everybody's like, oh, oh, my God. Like, everyone's like, you know, he's jump up and scream. I don't like, oh, yes. Cause they felt like everyone there, his side, her side was like, it's Michael, right? Like, it was like, it was, it was like, oh, my God. He said, yes, what the hell? I didn't ask me that coming. What, why do you think that she even, been went through with it and said yes? Well, she said yes first, right? Yeah, I know. But like, if she thought he was going to say no, I mean, because for her, it's a yes. Like, I don't think she knew 100% that he was going to say no. So why, why take that chance? Like, he's going to say yes and say no. Cause it would be like her saying no, because he's saying no. And then she's like, for me, I'm, for me, it's a yes.

25:46She's like, that's why she gave him the out. She's like, but I know I got a lot going on. That was a first girl. Don't give him an out. That was a first. She's like, I do, but I get it. If you don't want to, it's like, let the man speak. Let him talk. It's as if she was like, was trying to soften the blow. Yeah. It's like you have a bunch. Yeah. You have a bunch of people over at your house and you're like, we could play one more game or y'all could leave if you want. No. I personally wouldn't say that. I would, I want to keep the party going as long as it doesn't ask. He just brings the games out like, all right, here's what we're doing next. Like, two a.m. Like, I think, which I think you might be talking about, she's like, no, these are the games you're playing. I just always had that feeling of, this is over like the fun times we've just had as done. But I really enjoyed like his family, his family, what? And I want to, I want to get Mary's opinion on this because I looked at his family, like, they all look alike. This is like every first place. I was like, they all look like Pam Beasley from the office.

26:47And then I thought, wait a minute, I know someone else looks like Pam Beasley from the office. Mary, Mary, are you part of Jordan's extended family? I wanted to get through the whole season before I brought this up. That's right. He's my cousin. Yeah. No. Some of us white people just do be looking the same. Oh. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I honestly, I didn't even notice that. I was not paying attention. Whenever they're having, they're having scenes with like a lot of family members. I just write down like friends and family. I don't know who these people are unless we are like one person who comes out and it's like, ooh, we're meeting the mom or the sister or whatever. If it's like a group of people, I don't know who, I don't know, who are all of Alex's bros? I don't know. Are they friends family? No idea. I couldn't tell you. Who's like, even though we met them and like, I probably could if I stared up them really long time when they had Emma and Mike's parents like talking.

27:48I'm like, I don't even know which one's which here. Yeah, but his family looks like so much alike though. But yeah, they were like, they were like so Ohio's like, yeah, I can definitely picture these people. Did anyone catch Emma, the child, that when Jordan answers and says like, I do her, she's like, nah, like she maled no. I could not clock Emma's mood though, every time he saw her, I was like, he's like a shy kid. She's like in a place with like a ton of people and like camera people, I would hate that if I was a kid. It seemed like like she walked down the aisle and she like, and Jordan's up there. She almost gave like a stare of death. I thought it was like, either you better not marry my mommy or her or you better not say no to my mommy. But I do feel like she was happy about the yes, come, she along with her, but I was like, oh my god. If like Amber told her like, don't be, don't control yourself up too high, baby.

28:48He might say no. And so when he said yes, he was like super pumped about it. And afterwards like, you know, she was like happy. It seemed that when she was with them in the little before the reception, but yeah, it was hard to clock her, her mood because when we first met her, I think she was really shy. And she just wasn't saying anything. I didn't know what she was like. You know, should I look at the cameras? Or should I look at Tommy? I don't know. Yeah. So I didn't know what that was about exactly. But yeah, she's just ups and downs on her mood and seemed like the whole time. Yeah. I read her like mouthing no is kind of like a no way because there are rumors like rumors out here that seem legitimate from the sources that they had agreed to say no. And then Amber went up there and she said, yes, knowing that he would be saying no. And then he said yes. No, you can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that. Accidental marriage. Right. Because like according to Asian sources, I'm also doing the same thing. So it's just like, you can't be doing that. You can't say you're going to do one thing and then flip it off me and do the other.

29:51Like that's crazy. Yeah. So I'm like, how did they accidentally stumble into being married? Do you think that's for that's kind of like a kind of a play of like, hey, like I know I was like, it's like almost like a social strategy game. Like I know I know I was going to say no. But if I say yes, it's going to make you look worse that you're going to say no. Like it's kind of weird. Yeah, I don't know because it really depends on the couples who cares about making the other look bad. Like I don't think Emma and Mike or Amber and Jordan had any interest in making their spouse look bad. Right. And so I think even if they had both said no, it would have been a very like loving no. Like I can't about you, but this isn't like for us type of thing. Yeah. Jordan just seems like a very in the moment guy. So I feel like he in the moment was like, hell, she said, yeah, well, I just say, yeah. Was there was there a reasoning for like, did we hear in the pods about Amber's like

30:51parents? Because her parents weren't there. I could remember whether or not we had her parents had passed away or there's something difficult there with her parents because her aunt was there and her brother, but we didn't meet her parents. Yeah, her brother walked her down the aisle and her brother. I thought her brother said something like, oh, we wish somebody had been here. But I couldn't tell whether or not that was a like a past situation. There was something with her dad that she did talk about early on. I can't remember specifically, but I don't know if it wasn't like it was that they didn't have a good relationship or what it was, but there was she definitely talked about in the pods. But yeah, wasn't that wild that the even the officiant told Jordan like in your answer, like he's like, I do. He's like in your answer. I was like, I know that this was just like what he said based on the conversation, but

31:54it was funny that he seemed so nervous, he seemed so nervous. And then like when his, you know, family is talking to him beforehand, they're talking about, you're like, oh, what are your plans? Like why are you nervous? And he's like, we just, we don't know where we're going to live yet. Like I still want to I want to live near the bars and the restaurants. And I'm like, why is this still like the biggest because they lived like 12 minutes apart, right? He said, I think it was like, I think it was like an hour away, it was okay. He said, I want to be able to go to concerts. Yeah. I'm sorry, who, unless you're just in the heart of the city, like, you, there's no reason to be next door to concerts. And it sounds like from what he's saying that Amber is actually thinking about uprooting her and her daughter's life, like talking about going to a different school, like, and like, like, really? So, so, Jordan, go to concerts. Yeah. So, Jordan, go to bars or restaurants and concerts he likes, that's crazy to me. The fact that we're going to switch Emma's schools, which, you know, is not fun when you're a kid, right? And, like, make her, make Emma's father's also commuting plan, like, this is crazy.

32:59Why are we entertaining this man child and his desires are like, I just want to be closer to bars and restaurants, you're, you're about to marry with a kid. Like, you're not going to be doing that much partying anymore or, or so we think, like, I, I do think, like to talk about where their future is, I, I just don't know if he's ready to be a stepfather to again, I, I, and that's part of the issue with her not introducing him to what his life would be like before, the day before, I just don't think he's going to be ready. I don't think it's going to be what he thinks it is. I think he thinks he's going to be able to go out and party, do all these things and it's going to be fine. But I don't think that's the reality. I think Jordan fell in love with the party version of Amber, right? Because he didn't have to deal with mom Amber a lot. He dealt with responsibilities. Yeah, Amber independently out, you know, in the pods, you know, on vacation and apparently not much going on with the kid when they got back. So I think that's going to be a rude awakening for both of them about what life's going to be like.

33:59I don't know if we talked about it at the time, but like, one, I think it was when they were still in the pods, one of the bigger turning points for Jordan. It seemed like from when he was kind of like, Oh, I like Amber, but she has a kid to being like, Oh, I like Amber and the kids. Okay, was the fact that Amber said like, Yeah, like, I'm really close with, you know, Emma's dad and like he's in the picture a lot. And then Jordan was like, Oh, that like takes a lot of pressure off of me from feeling like I need to be like the perfect father. And I feel like at that point, he was kind of like, Oh, well, it's like, it's not really going to be wherever it's possible. So she's like, I'm going to be like a fun apple, right? Yeah, exactly. Like, I don't think that'll be the reality that he goes into. I don't think Amber is going to appreciate him ditching her on days that she has Emma to go out and party and go to concerts, go to the bars, yeah, concerts every night. You got to be close. Yeah, I don't know if she's going to appreciate that, especially if she's going to uproot her and Emma's life to follow his desire to get a restrious at conferences

35:05all the time, that's going to be wild. Yeah, do we want to give official predictions on where they're going to be? I think they're going to be broken up. I think they'll be broken up as well. I guess I'll just, I'll keep hope alive. I think it'll be hard, but I think that they'll still be trying to make it work. Okay. Only because we didn't really see a whole lot of other conflict with them. So, you know, they seem like they've got friends and family around. So maybe they've got a support system to help them through the tough times. I don't know. That's my only hope. Yeah, I mean, again, I just don't feel like we got a lot of content or context for their actual relationship because their whole storyline was, is she going to be okay with her kid? Yeah. Did you all notice Amber is here at the wedding? Like it gave me like Jersey Shore. It was big. It was big, big poop. I haven't seen a poof like that in a minute.

36:06Yeah. She has, you know, there, there were moments when I was looking up her age again, because I was like something about her, not her, not her, not her look like her, her skin or whatever, but like her style gives older than she is. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It definitely, yeah, it gives a different hearty, three, yeah, yeah, yeah, around 30, 33, 34. Yeah, her style is definitely older than her age. Yeah. All right. Next, let's go to a wet, another wedding. Oh, just kidding. It's not a wedding. Oh, darn, we're actually just on a couch in their apartment. Uh, well, same thing happened with them. Oh my God. I'll show them. Oh my gosh. Well, we're going to talk about Brittany and Devonte. Yeah, that was quite a fake out, wasn't it?

37:06I'm like, Brittany and Devonte is wedding day. We see the venue and then smash cut to the couch, which I don't know. C-S-B is always more I'm going to try and do this every season now, because we had Sparkle Megan and Jordan last season. Like, oh my God, you thought you were going to get a wedding this episode. But guess what? You're getting a break up. And it's like, now we're doing the same thing with Brittany and Devonte. Yeah. I mean, we basically find out that they have decided that they're not ready to get married. But Jason, I would like to do a little bit of a role play. Oh, no. This was so, this is so hard to watch. I don't know if I can watch the role play. You were we I, okay, I'm Brittany and my confessional. Yeah. And you are Devonte and his confessionals. And we're just going to talk about the current state of our relationship. Yeah. I just want to say I've never seen the movie. He's not just not that into you, but I feel like they wrote the script.

38:09So I'm so excited that like we're not getting married now, but we will get married later. Like that is my person. That is my husband. You know, it may not been the cards for us now, but I love that man. That is my husband. I mean, you know, I just, I can't tell the future. So I don't know what the relationship would be like, but I'll tell you one thing. I don't like being like smothered and pressured and seems pretty much like a shadow to me all the time. I always try to follow me everywhere. Like I just be going to go change a shirt. She'd be coming along with me. So I'm just going to go change a shirt, stay out here. So yeah, I don't, I don't know, man, I just, I don't know what, what the future holds. I just know I don't like to be like held down. I cannot wait to marry Devonte. It was wild. It was just a position between her and him. And it's just like, y'all just had two different conversations to each other. He ended this conversation saying we'll be in touch.

39:10Joking. I think she thought she was joking. Yes. And he's like, he's like, no, seriously, like I might call you in two days or maybe I won't. I don't know. It's going to turn it like when he said he needed a day before the wedding. It's going to turn into I just, I just need a week. I need to, okay, I just need a month. I need like, I need like a lifetime where I don't like talk to you. But like when we came into this, I wasn't sure, like they were talking so cryptically. I wasn't sure who exactly called it off. Like at first, I thought she'd call her off. Cause like, I was like, okay, good. Brittany is coming around. She's, she's, that was wishful thinking. Yeah. I was like, she's realizing that he's not into this. And she decided to break it off before he broke her heart. The all child's like, great, great, great, great. Then he's like, yeah, I just can't walk to a marriage like with any doubts. You know, and I don't know if I can, I don't like to love you the way you want to be loved, right? So I, you know, I, yeah, I just saw I don't know. I was like, oh, damn, we said that last podcast. We're like, that's the move. Just say, oh, I can't give you what you deserve when she pulled, he pulled that out.

40:14But it is true though. It is true. Yeah, it is. Yes, it's bad. He cannot love her the way she wants to be loved. He says something near the end where he's just like, you know, I could have just got married and, you know, decide to divorce later in life. As if we're supposed to like stand up and applaud for this man that instead of letting it go into a marriage, he decided to break it off the day before or the day of like, oh, Devote, you are such a great gentleman for only, only leading her on and right up until the wedding and then you caught off, oh, this man, man over here over here. Oh, my God. This guy is ridiculous. Like, I know that sometimes we get on people when they say things like divorce doesn't exist. Like, or whatever, yeah, like that's not divorce is not an option. But I think the counter side to that that is also bad is the, well, we could just get divorced if it doesn't work out. Like, you know, you don't want that to be like an easy backup plan.

41:18Yeah, it was so hard to watch her saying that she's 99% sure that they will be married someday that she's leaving this conversation feeling like they're still engaged and he is still for fiance and that she would have, it's like, you just want to say, girl, stand up. She's like, I would have, I would have even put aside my desires and like, you know, sign the prenup. It's like, no, she's been, she's been doing that their whole relationship. Yes, she is. I don't know how, I don't know what side of him she sees when the cameras aren't rolling that makes her think he likes her at all. I always saw someone just stepped in. I wish someone would have stepped in a producer or something like, I think Brittany, look, look at his face right now. This man is checking the F out. He's just like staring at her. And like the Bri and Connor situation, this is clearly a like, this is not the conversation where they made this decision. This is the restating of the conversation for the show. And I'm like, even in this, he can't even act like he cares at all.

42:21And like what he's saying to us in confession, I'm like, you need to say that to her. No, he just, he will not put two feet down and be honest with her because his version of being honest is, well, you know, I'm not dating just to date. Like he's trying to say he, with that, he is trying to imply because we decided not to get married, we shouldn't date, but he's, he can't just say it for some reason because he's too worried about looking like the bad guy, but she's suffering through this because her desire to be married is way greater than her ability to see what's right in front of her. She just is like, yeah, but the, the, the, there's two ways of looking at this and we're not going to know based on the edit. Either he is showing her something in times we are not seeing that makes her think that he actually likes her. Second option, she is in the nicest way, delusional and can't see

43:24anything's going on and just wants to be married so badly. No, I mean, the thing is though, like her whole thing about like, you know, having the wedding dress already and stuff like that, like there's, I don't think there's anything wrong with like manifesting that you like want the outcome you, you know, that you're gonna get the outcome you want. I don't think there's anything like creepy or weird about that. Like I kind of rolled my eyes at him when he was like thrown off by the fact that she already had a wedding dress. I'm like, you mean for the show that's all about trying to get married? Yeah, it's reasonable to expect that a woman like might get married from that. Literally our first time, our first time hearing from him that he had an issue with that. And that alone would not be an, a reason you would decide not to get married to somebody. So yes, what I do think, you know, a broken clock can be right twice a day. I do think he is correct in saying, I could have been anyone and she would have married me. Like I treated her like crap and she was ready to marry me today. So I do think he's, he's kind of right in that aspect.

44:24Maybe that's also kind of how brief ill because free was like, I'm not at my best and you still want me. Yeah, but there are people out there like Connor that like their women to be mean to them. Why is Connor and Brittany together? I am one of them. So I know. But, but with with Brittany, I do feel like, yeah, with Brittany, I do, she's going to listen to this too. And I do feel like Brittany, yeah, would have married anyone. And she doesn't have a lot of barriers to like, okay, yeah, let's get married because she has been settling. She's been compromising this whole time. Like she came to the vacation, talking about celibate, not going to have sex until such a such. And she's like, all right, if you're doing last sex, fine, fine, fine. She's like, you know, you don't, you don't say that I'm pretty or beautiful. Like I want you to, like ever, but I'm going to be okay with that. Like she's like in the prenup. Like, okay, I'll go and tell a prenup if you want me to. And all the meanwhile, she's here. She's sitting

45:24here, telling him we're still engaged. We're still together. And he has blank face staring at her, thinking about the white girl, he's going to talk to her in the bar later tonight. Like he's like, that's where his head is right now. He's done with this. He's over. I think her number was deleted as he walked down the steps on her house. Like, that was like, that is the face of a man that has no intention of ever returning a phone call, putting her text off for weeks at a time. Like he, that was him leaving her. I see no, I see no way, no way else is going to go, but him totally ghosting her. Yeah, like, like he, he's going to come out. She's going to be upset. And she's going to be like, I thought we were engaged. I was under the impression. He said that he needed like a week to just like kind of get things out. And then we literally never saw each other again. Yeah. And she's going to come through union. She's going to pull out her phone. She's like, look, look at all this. It's all be texting him and never responding.

46:25We're like, surprise, surprise. Come on. And hopefully the show can just tell him like, well, why didn't you just end things? He's just he's going to say he tried. He's going to say I told her that X, Y, and Z, and that's all his little version of, oh, I was trying to be direct, but he couldn't be man enough to just tell her how he actually felt. Like him using these confessionals to finally get it out. Like, oh, she's my shadow. Like, give me a break. Like, oh, that was so annoying, because at least have the decency to tell her to her face. What has she done to you to deserve? Oh, I'm just going to allow her to suffer through this to the point where he's going to have to ghost her because she still thinks they're engaged. And the thing is, I agree with everything y'all are saying about like, I think to some extent, it could have been anybody that she, I think she just wants to be married and stuff like that. But I also feel like, if I know he's giving her nothing, but because he's not saying no, I can understand how she would

47:30just be like, well, I guess we're still in this. And like, of course, if he's my fiance, I'm going to, I'm going to talk to him and message him and be with him and want to be with him. And like, I don't, I don't know. I don't know that she, we don't know that she's like acting unnaturally clingy or something. Maybe she's just acting like someone who's thinks that she's in love and thinks she has a fiance. Yeah. And I think her desire really blinds her to the obvious clues that we've all seen of like, he's not, he doesn't want this. He's not into you. So, and the fact that she is like, she's talking about, like, I don't want to have to start over with someone else. I'm like, it's that sunk cost fancy of like, I don't want to have to like, give my heart to someone else now and be vulnerable with someone else at this point. Just like, I like, when that door opened when the pot reveals, she was just like, all right. That's it. That's it. Like, like, not my usual type. As she told us, she's like, but this is it.

48:33Like, he's my husband. Like, it's him or no, or him or nothing, because I don't want to start over again. And it's kind of a, it's kind of a sad, like, thought to have. This person that's, you know, lives all their life, like, you know, with probably toxic relationships and all this. Now it's like being like, I'll take anything at this, like to just, just to get myself married and get it over with. Yeah. And all these critiques of Britney is just because we think she deserves better. She wants kids, right? What about her and Mike? I don't know. Again, I don't know anything about Mike, like to be like, would they be a good fit? If they, if they both just want to be married and have kids, yeah. So like, that's all they want right now. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Because I mean, the way she described it was like, Alex would be her tight if he had a whole different personality. Yeah. But yeah, I just, I want the, I want her to look in the mirror and see that she deserves so much, so much, so much better than Devotee. And it would be worth it to start over with someone else because

49:38you would have, would be in a relationship with someone who respects you. You're not the relationship right now. You're in a family. Exactly. This isn't real. It's never been real. You would be with someone that respects you, values you. You could have fun with. We'll pamper you. We'll show you that they, that you mean something to them. At this point, Devotee is not even showing her that he values her as a friend. She's like, you know, it was weird that I didn't meet his mother. That's all right. Right? Like, yeah, Brittany. Yeah. That, that's, that is odd. When they actually break up, if that happens, she's going to start noticing, that's when all, like, that's when she'll start realizing all these different things that it's like, I don't know girl. Like, I've been there before. Like, you know, like breaking up with an X and then talking to friends, like, oh, and then there was this and this and this and this. They're like, if you want to told us those things, you would have been out of that sooner. Bruh, we're here with the like, well, I guess I'm going to get out of here. It's like,

50:39he wants to run so far away so fast. It's like, he's like, all right, we got enough for the show. Can I go now? Because I don't want to be here. He probably, he probably got in that car, turned on his favorite song was singing at the top of his lungs. He was, he was over the moon that he escaped this somehow. And he's just like, when she contacts me, I'll figure it out then. Okay. So do you think they, you're probably like, well, I thought she would get the hit after I blocked her number. But that's how, that's how he will like, say he broke up with her. I'm like, well, I blocked her number. Like, shouldn't that have been enough? Should I have shouldn't she have known that it turned green? She's like, I just thought he got an android. When I blocked her on fine mind, that wasn't a hit. Oh my gosh. So, um, do you all think they would are still on speaking terms at the reunion? No, no way, no way. They hate each other. Yeah. I don't want her to be like, I'm still willing to,

51:45to hear you out the Vante. Like, if you ever want to, I'm, I'm here. Like, no, girl, no, just like this. I want her to read him for Phil so bad. Like, that's, that's what I want. I want to scorching that, that someone else ever going to talk about that. He's like, I, this, you know, I, uh, this past year, I've stayed single and celibate just for Vante, because I knew this moment would come through reunion where I'd get an opportunity to reconnect with my husband. I, I beg of anything about that. I mean, like, what I, what I, yeah, what I want for her is to have someone clear the cobwebs from her eyes and for her to like stand up for herself and realize that she could do better. Is that going to happen? Probably not. I hope so. My, my dream is we go into the reunion. Brittany is happily engaged to the man of her

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55:59Asia go over there? Yes. Oh my gosh. So these two, she had me nervous. She had me in the first half. I'm not going to lie. She's talking about how he has said she's not his type, but she hopes at the moment he sees her. He changes his mind. I interpreted that differently. I think she was what she meant was like, I know now. She almost instantly followed that up with like, I don't think he's going to say yes. And I'm like, but she wants him to so that she can say no to his face. Like, she wants him to have changed his mind and like her so that he can look like a fool. Yeah. That's why she had me in the first half. Like, as she said it, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. But then she made it very clear that she was like ready for her moment. Because she said something about like him being the man of her dreams. Because in that moment, Sarah was like, if that's the man of your dreams, dream bigger. Because she said he'll be a great

57:03husband and a great father. And so I was like, Ashley, please. What information? Well, but he's like, you know, the producers are like, all right, like we know, we know you're going to say, no, well, you got to say some nice stuff about it. It makes up enough if you have to. We got we got trick the viewers and thinking. I mean, I truly didn't know that we were going to get this outcome based on all the previous episodes. Yeah. I didn't know she was ready for it. I got to stop to say about that. I got to stop to say when we get there. I'm sure you do. Yeah. But because you didn't even notice the way he showed up to the wedding. Oh, that's just how he always is. I mean, he's a slut. Exactly. This is your wedding. I mean, listen, I thought he was going to say no the whole time. So it doesn't surprise me. He didn't put much effort into his look here. So the way he talks about her, obviously, all the soccer analogies aside, he says she's a top tier partner. He's talking about her like she's his teammate at work. Please give our team a performance review. Yes, exactly.

58:05This whole attitude of like, I'm cool, calm, collected. What's there to even be nervous about? I'm like, that happens when you don't care. Yes, this is a big deal to you. I don't like, I don't know why he thinks that being apathetic toward everything is somehow like a strong suit. It's so cool. Yeah. That's what he thinks. He thinks that he just seemed so cool, calm and collected, and like someone out there is going to be at this point. And there was a certain point in their experience, maybe after Cabo that I feel like he was just playing to whatever woman out there is going to watch this and be like, I want him. But like, I guess what's confusing is does I don't even think he, does he? He doesn't give to me that he wants a relationship. I think he just wants like women to like him. Like, does he really want to be married and have kids? I don't think so. I think about his lifestyle or personality, makes me feel that way. I think if he got in the perfect person for him, I think he would have been

59:06more likely to say yes and to do it. Which is what? What is the, I mean, besides just someone he's physically attracted to? Is that what you mean? I mean, yeah, pretty much. Like I think actually, I think on the surface gives the impression that like she would do whatever he wanted kind of. No, but here's the thing though. Actually, you know, rubbed up against him. When I'm against him, I was like, Hey, explain to me your past. I think he wants someone that's not going to hassle him about his lies and his timeline. He wants the accountable. Right. He wants something that looks like Brittany, obviously. He wants someone looks like Brittany. They won't question him. And then we'll just be kind of like a good like, Oh, yes, sir. This isn't that. I think that's what he wants. If that's what he had gotten, he would have said yes at all. That's not what he got. So he wasn't about to go ahead with this. I thought it was really funny that, you know, obviously, they're being prompted. These questions and their confessionals. And so he must have been asked like, okay, do you have any fears today? It's like, well, I don't have any fears besides like sharks in the water. That's so random. That even me like was I was like, is this a metaphor I'm missing about that?

1:00:10Like, no, he said that as a someone at a bar came up to him and was like, yeah, any fears in life. Like, how is your only fear sharks in the water as your only fear ever in life? But like sharks in the water again, like, did he mean literal sharks in literal water? Or did he mean like so? Because like, I thought like sharks, like when you say that the phrase sharks in the water, you mean like, like, that's a phrase, but it didn't, it didn't make any sense for weddings. Nothing he said made sense for the wedding that was that day. Well, listen, unless he's talking in soccer metaphors, I don't think Alex really gets that deep. Like, I don't think he's, I don't think he can get that deep. He's not about soccer. So he's not going to get that deep. Well, he should have been because Ashley was a shark in the water getting ready to sabotage him. And talk about it all his integrity and stuff. Well, she, so she, you know, clearly showed us that she was a, she was walking into like preparing for her moment, right? Like, she, she's,

1:01:16she's already said she's expecting a no from him. And her dad was like, you've got this carpentry. Yeah, do we know that she was like a black belt or something? Yeah, he's like, you're a black belt, you're Ashley Carpenter. And so then we get to the ceremony. And so this is what I need Jason to see. Okay. Let's see, where is this? Gosh. Well, anyway, I will, I will, I have to export it. But we get to their ceremony. And, you know, I was wondering, is he going to go first or is she going to go first? Like, because if he goes first and he says his no, that's less impactful. I didn't know less of a, I wrote down why is he going first? Yeah, exactly. So I was like, okay. So they already production knows that she's ready to like

1:02:18give it to him. Basically, uh, okay. So this is him at the altar. So, and I didn't do this. I found this on Reddit. Okay. But here I'll make you bigger. So no, I didn't do this. I'm sorry. Someone else. Yes. So basically, they're pointing out, I have a picture up of Alex and they're pointing out how he just rolled out a bed, ate a quick croissant and then walked up to the altar because he didn't cut his hair. He didn't clean up his beard. He had food in his beard and his hair. It's like, what is wrong with you? Asia, how can he explain this to you any better? He does not care. He doesn't care. Yes. This is a visual representation of him not caring. But he's telling you that. He already told you he doesn't care. He's not, he doesn't care whether people think of him and his unbekept appearance. This does not mean enough to him to make any sort of efforts to clean himself up a little bit. He's just, he's just a stoic Asia. Okay. Let him go. Let him be. I was like, I was like, look, I was just breaking it down. Just as we looked at him,

1:03:20I was like, okay, yeah, he didn't do anything to his beard. I'm like, oh, wait, is that like something in his beard? And then I like turned to Sarah who was a barber. And I was like, did he cut his hair? She was like, no. I'm just like, yeah, he didn't cut his hair. I don't know the difference. But I was just like, oh my god, I think he has a clean Sarah trim somebody's hair and beard before they're wetting. I was like, well, yeah, you did. I guess what's going on? This is ridiculous. This man, like, this is what I say when I said him and Chris think they are very different people than they are. Yes, exactly. And he gave, he got on my nerves just him walking down the aisle. I was like, why are you walking like that? Like he was walking like he just didn't care. Yeah, on the plate. I stand like we all just keep repeating it. He just does not care about this whole thing. Exactly. And somehow thinks that that is like cool. I don't know. Yeah, I'm so confused too, because he like posted a picture of himself in his wedding outfit,

1:04:23and it like looks kind of face-tooned. So I was really confused about that too. Let me see. I have it up. I can pull it up. I think here we go on the fly. Okay, here we go. So this looks very different than what we just saw. This looks like, okay, I made this presentable to show. I mean, the other one is an extreme close-up of his face. I bet you, as you posted earlier, but yeah, I guess this could have been touched up for. Oh, yeah, for sure. It's touched up. I mean, at the very least, have you been on Instagram? No. Exactly. People are not, people are not above it. And then that's not what you do do it if you're below it or whatever, but it's just very funny that we saw this on television, and then he posts that version. It's just his outfit, his stance, his smile, everything about his cast photo is giving like, this is my first corporate

1:05:26job, headshot. Yeah. I think you're going to the first day or first grade. Yeah, like he just doesn't give off like soccer player. Like I think he, and I mean, those are stuff he thinks he's soccer player, I guess, as he thinks he is. Yeah. So actually, she's like, no, I'm not going to let him go first. I'm going to have my moment. She's like, you're not choosing me. I'm not choosing you. And that's when they pan to her dad who looks at her mom's like, oh, he, he prepared this. He's probably can melt the words with her. Like, you got this sweetie. I mean, we probably, just like we practiced in the back. Cut it's my little baby. When we left, she was like, when we left the pause, there was no effort. And she felt like they were roommates when they moved into the apartments and his stories are so vivid and detailed. And she found herself even more confused and lying is a non-negotiable for her. She talks about his integrity. She said he missed the mark in his mom. Wow. Yeah.

1:06:27You mean his fake mom? Yeah. She, she was, she was really upset. Can I just say like, after watching this and also like the survivor thing, Jason, maybe you can tell me, I don't get the whole like being offended when someone strikes at your integrity because here's the thing. If someone is using the words like honor and integrity to describe someone, I think most people on a daily basis, like most people are not going to have someone even when they get in a fight, turn to them and be like, you have no integrity. They're going to say like, you lied about that or you know, like, I feel like I didn't know the real you or something like that. But when you're calling out someone's integrity, you only do that in the cases where somebody has already like repeated that their integrity is very important to them. And it becomes a like, doff protest too much situation. You know, like the people, the people who are constantly talking about their integrity are the some of the people who, who have the least of it, I feel like.

1:07:29Yeah. I think that's part of why you, you leak with the, you don't have integrity because that person probably talks about their integrity a lot and talks about the word integrity. So you know that's going to get under the understanding saying, and you have no integrity. You're like, Oh, that's something I say I have a lot of how dare you. That's all I have. It's just funny because he's so offended by it. But like she gives examples of like where it felt like he wasn't being completely honest. And he doesn't like, the only thing he says is like, well, I think we just have such different like backgrounds that you just can't understand my lifestyle. So I just agreed to an extent about the integrity thing. I think he thinks, I think he's like saying to an extent helps his argument when I don't think it really does. It sounds fancy. Right. Cause like to an extent of like, I, I, I lied a little bit, but not as much as you're saying. I don't lie as much. I do lie, but not as much as you're saying. Yeah. To a, to an extent, I disagree. But I kind of disagree. You got a point. But I don't think it's as bad as you think it is. Or you're saying it is. Yeah. So how did you feel Jason

1:08:33about Ashley having her moment here at the altar? Listen, girl, go off. Like I think like you gave it to him, gave it both barrels. Because it's Alex, I love it. It's just kind of like, it's kind of like the dad, the dad meeting, right? We're like, any, if this was Connor on the other side, we'd have been like, Oh, he shouldn't have gone so hard on Connor. Because those Alex is like, Oh, yeah, get him. Get Alex. So I'm all for it on that, on that point. Like yeah, he deserved it. He got it. But I feel like with, I feel like, and I do think I saw something online where he had told her that he was going to say no the day before. So she already knew he was going to say no. So I think when she heard he was going to say no, she came up with all of this like speech and all this big moment. But I think if he had said yes, if he went, if he hadn't told her, he's going to say no, and he went forward and said yes, I think she would have said yes. So for me, she's giving all this like, she's giving all these reasons, all this thing to be like, you're this, you're that, you're that. But I think if he's willing to marry you, you still wouldn't marry him anyway. Because I think Ashley is a little bit like Brittany. She really, really,

1:09:36really wants to be married. And she's willing to ignore some red flags to, to be married. And the fact that we got no real supporting evidence from the last drop to tell like, yes, she was suspicious of this timeline, all this and that. But in the last little date, she's talking about what's our first curse is going to be like? Where are we going to go? Like what's our, what's our living situation going to be like? So I think she was already to say yes until he told her he's going to say no. So that's her false little thing for me. And this is like roasting of Alabama, because I don't think this was her plan. If this was you, if you felt this way, and you were going to roast him, why do we get all the way up to the wedding? Like it doesn't really add to have her moment. And like, I feel like she was mad enough at him and felt like enough, like just rage at him that she, that was the platform she wanted to do it at. But in fact, the rage was kind of fresh because he told her he's going to say no. I don't know. I think even if he said yes, like even if she had no prep, like maybe it wouldn't have been as passionate. I do

1:10:37still think she would say no. I think her, it would be like a, oh yeah, let him go first, let him say his yes. And now let me say my piece with a no. I don't, I don't, I don't think she doesn't strike me as, as desperate for marriage as Brittany is. I think somewhere between him telling her to her face that she's not his type and the meeting with her dad, some combination of those things. I could see her dad literally talking to her me like, this guy's not for you. And, and like a lot of the scenes we got with her, you know, she was, she wasn't rolling over. She was pushing back. She was questioning certain things that he was saying and doing and that kind of thing. I think that she knew relatively early on that this was going to be the ending for her of whether or not he was going to say yes or not that she was going to do this. Does that mean that if he had changed his ways and started acting more like he was into her and stuff that she would have still made that decision? I don't know. I think it was just the fact that like from the point that they had met

1:11:41and went to Cabo, he never really seemed that into her. And I think she, it just kind of built off each other and never turned around. So I don't know. I feel like the whole time this was going to be the outcome. I just don't understand why grab this moment. Like why draw this out to make everyone why did why did deep D. That also was like that was kind of like weird to me that if she because the same situation, she was going into this, she was going into that season because for us, it was a shock that she did that and that season. I'm like, oh, like we thought you were just kind of going along with his BS. So I think I put both of them in the same thing of like why draw it out like this. Why not? And I'm like, why did you bring me here to do this? Like these women are like women scorn at this point. Like they are women that tried to like they wanted this. But then they got the they got this man who like for her in this specific situation, lied time and time

1:12:49and time and time again. So she felt disrespected. And it was kind of like she wanted him to feel what she's been feeling the past three weeks. I guess. But she could have done that weeks ago in their apartment. We're like, it's still would have been all the evidence. She wouldn't have had all the evidence to talk about. She would have had, oh, just the honeymoon. But it just comes off as like, I don't know. It comes off as attention grabby to be like, I'm going to do this. I'm going to bear you in front of all your friends and family. Yeah, he's a crappy guy. But this is like, why draw this out for this long? And I think it's long. It's a mind. Don't say it. It's like two like, oh, for six months, she was with him. But why live that way for a month and not just cut it off? If you know what you're going to say, no, at that point, stop torturing yourself. I don't think it was that case. I think she truly wanted him to change a new like turn a new leaf. I truly think that she, if he could have changed his behavior, started being more honest with her, started being vulnerable with her. Their relationship shifted. She would have been willing to say yes. But it only got worse and worse and worse. And then it's like, well, shoot, now let me just have

1:13:52my moment at the wedding. But I feel like the story, it feels like I got from this season of, he was giving her crumbs. Yes, she'd be like, why do you mean he's crumbs? But then she'd be like, I'm going to take the crumbs though. It seemed like she was okay like up until the last moment. So I do think if he was, if he was, if he had the night before of like listening, like, yeah, you're not my type and all this and that. But I'm willing to try a marriage. If you would stick it out with you, I think she would have said, yes, if he had said yes. So I do think this is a fresh rage of him telling her the night before. I'm going to say no. So she's like, all right, let me get my stuff ready. Let me get prepared to combat your ass with both barrels. I can see it, I can see it either way. I also don't think her dead, her dead was so content. Like, I don't think it was a situation where we're going to support you either way. Like, I feel like, no, I think her dead not like him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I don't think that if she were like, I'm just going to be with him, whatever, if that were the case, like if he said, yes,

1:14:53she'd say yes. I don't know. I just feel like there were more. Yeah, I think she needed the support of her dad. And I think after her dad met him and probably she strikes me as the kind of person who, especially after her previous, you know, red flag relationships, probably talked to her family some and got their opinions and talked to them about some of her experiences. And that's what I was saying. Like, I think that after that meeting with her family, I could easily believe that they had started cooking this up. That's a weird to me. It's so bizarre. I'm like, all right, let's let's see how you're going to get his ass at the wedding. I'm like, no, just leave. Just just break up with them right now. That's very easy to say when you're not in it. I don't know. I think some of that may or may not also have to do with the stipend. I mean, these people are all people that have decent jobs. I don't think they're they're doing this to give a $1,000 week stipend probably. No, but you're you're on the show. Like, you know, like, yeah, now I'm not going to end up with this person, but at least like, yeah, let me follow

1:15:55through with the finish up the show. Yeah, I know. With the 12 episodes. I guess, but I just I think where it strikes me as inauthentic is how willing it seemed like she was right up until the last moment. I think it's really hard for a person who's not an actor or a sociopath to fake being into someone and fake like conversations about a relationship and stuff. So I think that anytime we saw them have conversations where they're talking about their future and she's talking about that. I do think that she had to have liked him at least some. I don't think that this was like a plan all along all along that she hated him and then wanted to embarrass him. I don't think it was that. I think it's kind of more in the middle of like what Asia was saying was she still had hope that he would like her and change his mind, but that if he wasn't going to then she would be perfectly happy having her moment at the wedding. She wasn't going to end with this being making her look like the fool who said yes and he said no. Yeah, but I just I just contend that if

1:16:58he had said to her instead of instead of saying it's going to be a no, if he had said it's going to be yes, I think she would have gone along to get along and say yes and gone along and would not have had this whole like, you know, rant and tirade. Now again, because it's Alex and he deserved it, I loved it. Like I love how he got served. I love how he got embarrassed in front of his friends of family. And that's what I think I think it purely was. You just embarrassed me for the past however long in thinking that this could actually be something. Now I'm going to embarrass you. But no one else in that wedding really knows that except maybe like her friends and family. And that's all she cares about. She doesn't care about her side. Well, maybe like not everyone there. Like so for me, I'd be like why am I here for you just going to do this. But yes, I don't I don't know. I think there's going to be a lot of talk about which which of our sides is right or not in the comments. Yeah, I'm definitely more consideration about the people who are just going to sit there at the wedding. Yeah, because like she like she was so she was so harsh on him like right after the wedding.

1:18:00She's like he's a loser. He never loved me this so that like we never heard that for like at all before before any of that. No, that like her saying that he's a loser and that he probably never even liked her or loved her. I think that that directly comes from him telling her that he was going to say no. I think that 100%. But I do think that a lot of the things that she had been saying there's a difference between I think it would have been different if he had spent the whole time really making her feel like she liked her. And then all of a sudden told her that he was going to say no, but he never really made her feel super comfortable. And so that's why I feel like I don't believe that she was just like Laudida everything's great even though he's giving me no reassurance. Yeah, she was close to him. He told me no, like I think she was questioning him throughout. Yeah, for sure. But she was going to kind of look past those things like she she went after him at the at the mixer about his timeline. And then he seemingly fixed it with McDonald's later. So she said she's like, but how does that seem fixed? Oh, she didn't accept the McDonald's. Yeah, I didn't think I didn't think that that seemed fixed. To me,

1:19:02that seemed like someone who was like that and they're really awkward like date thing at the cabin. To me, both of those things seemed like she kind of knew the writing was on the wall, but she was just trying to be a pleasant person. Because she I don't know. She knew it wasn't going to work at that point. That's how I read it. I don't think we'll ever really really know really know the real thing. But I have my opinion you guys have your opinions. I'm excited to see what other people said. I'm glad that this did not end with her just agreeing to whatever nonsense he wanted. Yeah. Yeah. And do you love them? Like, hey, you're going to go see if she's okay? He's like, no, like, why would I do that? It's like, I haven't cared about her once at any point. But also, it's not even about that. It's just like, she literally just dressed me down her front of everyone. Why? I was kind of with him at that point. Like, why would I go check if she's okay? She just, somebody should go check if I'm okay. I just got to viscerate it. But I was like, he doesn't care. He's like, he's so cool. Like, nothing she could say would ever shake him up.

1:20:03You know what's funny? He's a goalkeeper. Is I actually, actually, like besides her saying that she, I mean, for addressing down, it was relatively tame. Like, she did say that she didn't think that he really was all there with his integrity and that she couldn't follow some of his stories. That was it. She wasn't like, she got him a liar. She got him a liar. She, I mean, he is. Yeah, like, for some years, but like, and he didn't, he didn't even, she, all she, what she said was, lying is a non-negotiable for me and I'm sure it is for you as well. But some of your stories didn't check out. That's what she said. So she implied that he was lying. I guess I'm saying is like, a lot of the, a lot of the speech, she was not like, she could have said worse. She phrased it felt very lawyery the way she phrased it. Everyone understands what she's saying, but like, she's kind of got plausible divinity in a lot of her sentences where she even his mom, this is what I want. And I just don't think it's going to work with you.

1:21:04Paul says mom was like, so she's, she basically called him a liar. Yeah. Yeah. She says, like, she said a year ago, I would ignore all the red flags and lies. Yeah. And wait, and wait for you to be the man I deserve. She deserves so much better. So it's a no for her today. I really wanted her to say it's a no for me dog. It's no for me dog. So yeah, I, I enjoyed the dressing now she gave him. He definitely deserved it, but I did question. Like, is this because you already knew what the answer is going to be? Like, if you didn't know, if you got the yes, would you have gone along with them? Yeah. I think part of it too is the, the, the, part of the dressing down you're saying is she could, like, it's one thing to do it alone in their apartment. It's another thing to do it with family and friends immediately there to kind of like, I view up and to be there with you. Like, who helped you like, exactly. Like, she had their support live and in person. So it was kind of one of those like, okay, now I feel like I have, I can do it.

1:22:08Like, I can say these things. My dad's right there. He's going to grab my hand as soon as I say it. And I'm going to be okay. Whereas they do it at home is like there, there's not that immediate backing. And for her to say a year ago, like you said, Jason, a year ago, she would have handled it differently. Like, she's not as far in her journey as being able to just like, oh, I'm going to tell him off and I'm going to be okay by myself. Right. I guess. I think, I think my big question that, you know, we question his time. I'm question her timeline a lot of like, where, where did you start feeling this, this rage in this moment? Was it last night? Did you just start this last night? I've already told you it was a no. Like, that's my big question that I would have for her. Yeah, I think we can all agree. It should have been earlier. No matter what point it was should have been earlier because he has been the way he is all along. Yeah, I think, I think we should rank them though. Like, which, which, which, which, which, you pick her, which, pick her burn was, was, was burn brighter. The deeply shake stuff, the,

1:23:09coal and, and Zunab, burning or this one, which, which was the more satisfying one. I think this might have been more satisfying because I don't remember with deep tea and shake. She was never his type and so he was just an awful husband, but I don't remember had the lies being so excessive like it is with Alex. Yeah. All the lies for Alex. I mean, it was the Austin thing and were the other lies. I mean, to me, like, I don't have a job. Yeah, I don't even know about lies. I think it was more just like the picture he painted for her in the pods seemed very different than the one coming out of it, which was like, we're going to travel. I may or may not have a job. I may or may not want to move to this city. I may or may not want to move to this city. I don't know. It

1:24:10just seemed, I feel like he was, he was honest with that fact of like, I don't know. I got job over here. I got job over there. I job everywhere. He was upfront about it. At some point, I can't honestly remember if he was upfront about it when they were in the pods. I mean, just just all the lies. I'm like, okay, what are all the lines? Something that he tries to paint. Yeah, he tries to paint this life for himself that is impressive to her. That's what he said. Look, no matter how I explain it, it's going to be confusing to have ever because I'm a millimetre. I do this. I do that. I'm a fisherman. I'm a teacher. I'm a soccer player. I'm a this. I'm a that. What is that line? Is that just being like a narcissist of like, I am, I live such a great, like he might think he actually lives like this great, nomadic life. No one else sees it, but he sees it. To me, it's, it's the thing I'm more confused about is less like what he wants to do with his nomadic life. It's why are you trying to be in a marriage while doing this? Why are you trying to get this woman to quit her stable job? Like, the fact that you guys are

1:25:14talking about marriage and kids and all this weird considering your life. And that's not to say that people can't have like nomadic sort of lives, but they didn't seem at all on the same page about this. Right. It's like, oh, you got to make a decision. She's like, can I get a day to talk to my boss? Oh, well, you got to make a decision because in that time frame, I got a job in Florida. Then he was lying about flirting and Cabo with Brittany. Oh, yeah. I mean, well, that, he just overtalks when he's lying because he's like, you can't really shoot down one thing because he just said so much. Right. Like, I think there's a difference between, I think that, yeah, he feels like, well, it's like, well, I didn't lie about a specific thing. I didn't say, I didn't, I didn't cheat on you and say I didn't. What you did do though was, you know, talk to someone and directly tell them that you find them more attractive and would believe your fiance for them and then not, and then, and then tell them that you didn't, and then tell your fiance, you didn't flirt with anyone. Yeah. I mean, that's a lie. Overall,

1:26:17he's a very shady, shifty person. I think we can all agree on that. I just, and I also think there may be some other things that we didn't see that she might be talking about. I really want to pull back on this because I do not want it to look like I'm trying to defend Alex. In any way, or I mean, I mean, Jason is the number one. I'm not going to put that on me. I do not defend Alex or his ways. He is a scumbag. He is the, he is one B of villains this season. So I do not, he deserve what he got. I just question where it came from. That's all. That's it. I want to be clear. Okay. Yeah. I think what's hard for me about this is like, I'm a big Alex Hader, but I'm not necessarily like, I kind of nothing, Ashley. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not sader, but I'm not a Ashley lover. Yeah. It's kind of like, but like, I'm glad she's not with him, but at the same time, I'm like, why did you, like, it worries me that you liked him at all,

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1:29:26All right. Let's talk about our last couple who was a happy ending on this finale. Gerald and Beverly. I mean, Kristian Vick. Yeah, sure. That's the name. Oh, you think they're pretty. You know, I've decided to completely embrace them. They're real couple. They're really in love. That's not fun, Mary. That's not fun. They're so in love. They are so perfect. Her meeting his mom and sister went so well. That was so sweet. They're about to have sex for the first time ever. I love they really tried to get us in that in that preview. It's just like so loud and crazy. And the real is like so loud and crazy. But if I know my brother, I'm very happy. Yes, of course. He had his lock sock, which is like covering his locks. I want to invest in one of those. I now I think my locks are at their point where I can put on a lock sock at home.

1:30:27Is it like, do you know where they're in public or something first? They probably don't know. By surprise. No, yeah, I've been saved up. I just have like, I have so many bandanas and that's just how I maintain like my the parts and my scalp. And I just wear that at home. But then what happens is I'll go and get my locks retwisted. And then my lock tissue is like, Tillie's hair is again, because Tillie's the only dog in his house that should. But Tillie's hair will get in my locks. But if I had a lock sock on, I wouldn't have to worry about that. I'm like, maybe maybe this would be because of because of because of big. That's I'll do it. It's like, no, actually, I'm going to buy a company that goes lock socks. That's actually what I meant to invest in. So it was sweet from start to finish. Like they just were, they spoke so positively about each other. And what I noticed was everyone else's fear

1:31:29was about the other person. Their fears was her fear was like, oh, like, I just want him to choose me. And his fear was like, oh, I want him to choose her to choose me. Their own concern was about themselves. And not like, oh, well, Christine did say this thing. So I don't know if I'm going to say yes. And so that's just that's how you need a real. And I kept talking. Oh, sorry. Now you go. I was going to say, I think it would be a lot easier to believe that they were just like actors or something or like a couple who's already been married for 15 years, except for the fact that like the whole religion element, it's like, I just don't think they would have it in them to lie about this. Well, that's part of the role. Mary is like, you're super religious. So I don't know. As part of the role is to be religious. But I think and then they talk so much about, I have all these flaws and these imperfections. Like, is that a failure of the storytelling that we don't know what the heck they're talking about? Like, what do you mean your imperfections and flaws? We know you got a misdemeanor for some

1:32:30we charges back in the day. But what else are you talking about? And the fact that Vic is talking to his mother. And he's like, yeah, I was happy. You didn't give up on me. I was such a bad person back. And I'm like, I haven't heard anything about that. I don't know who this person is to know what the heck he's talking about right now. So I hear about his misdemeanor in the pods. I mean, I said it like because he made a sound like he was a holy terror to his mother and like, the terrible things. I was like, why do we have we heard about that? I don't know. It's, it's gives me like, there's not enough time. Like I said, there's seven couples. This couple was a tack on anyway. They just were like, we need to, we really need to cover the couple that will actually stay together. And so I would never see them together with other couples at the apartment and that this wedding got sent to Malibu. We got lucky enough to watch their wedding. Like they literally would have been the people article coming out of, oh, there was another couple in the pods who got together and they're still together to this day, which actually would have been a first that they would be still together, I believe. I would have loved to. I mean, I would

1:33:33love if they would be open with us until like just talk about why what the choices were surrounding this. Did they see everyone starting to crumble early and be like, actually, we're going to need a ringer couple. Get those two boring ass people in here. We want to document them for a little bit and we'll, you know, see their wedding and everything. I really want to know what the timeline was like for that. I was like, they're too boring to follow, but then everyone's starting to break down around us. So we need, we're not sure about Amber and Jordan. Amber Jordan might be, yes, but we need at least once. I think they thought Amber and Jordan would be a no. Yes. So what in the process? We're just like, okay, get Christina Vicken here. I don't know, but like, you know how during the reunions, they do that thing where it'll be like a little quick flashback to the relationship in the pods. Actually, they usually do that before the weddings. They didn't even do that this time. Their entire relationship in the pods felt like a flashback. Like we never saw anything from them. I mean, we did see it. We got a couple of longer conversations, but then they just kind of yadda yadda everything. We're like, all right, here's some clips and some moments where they're getting along on their dates. And yeah, they're

1:34:36getting there. Here you go. They're getting engaged. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know. I just, I need one of these on every season. One of these types of couples. That's why they were hired. I mean, cash. I can't wait to see like, I think for like, there's no way for in my mind. There's no way they're not still together at the reunion. Oh, yeah. They gotta be. They gotta be. Yeah. I thought with you that they were talking about we got we got to teach you the electric slide. Yes. Which I don't know if I can just like, all right, let's do the lecture slide right now. Like I know all of these line dances, but it's not until the song is laying at a wedding that I get up and I know the steps. That's a slide. Yes, he or may Mary. No, I think of a yade, but I remember the last time I did the electric slide, which is probably like a wedding or on a cruise. I remember thinking to myself, I'm like, wait, how do you do this again? I hadn't done this in a long time.

1:35:49That's perfect for the audio listener. Next, next, next on our show. They go, ooh, it's shocking. Next, next, ouriplier show we're all at. We're going to start the electric slide and the dance floor. It's so you can do what? Yep. That's good. That's good. They're, yeah, they just, they were just sweet. It was so wonderful. And I love the meeting of Christine and and his, their mom, like they were, you know, I think the mom was just like, yeah, it was nervous, but after meeting her, like she's so great. It's like, oh, everyone's just so happy. So pleasant. So pleasant. So nice. Did you, did you notice that his sister, like, okay, obviously, we all noticed that his sister was there officiant, but did you notice when they kissed after I do that her sister looked away. I was watching that. I was wondering one thing because like the sister is doing the, you know, the vows or whatever. And she has this very like interesting tick right in her wording. I get the end of all the words. I was wondering

1:36:50if Christine, Christine has a speech pathologist. I wonder if she was like, just not even listening, like what the fix that like when we're officially married and I visit in New York, we're not the fix that. What was it? It was just after at the end of everything. She was like, she's like, hmm, she were like, go up. Like she was like, I like a little bit of a, at the end, was like, and I was just like, Christine as the speech was all this person. Was she like, so she bothered by that at all. She also had a, like she had like a accent that was coming in and out of like New York. And then like what I would try to look up if she's saying, I was like, are they Haitian? But I didn't see if St. John was like originated in Haiti. So I'm not sure they're, um, I mean, not ethnicity, but they're origins. Yes. Um, yeah, forever love. Let's let's get thoughts on what was in the box. I feel like it was probably extremely tame that these two like, I don't know. It seems like, almost seems like they're virgins. And it's like,

1:37:54it was like, yeah, I, I, I, lingerie seems like probably the most. I think one. I'm sure it's Andre and like a thong. So that's why he wouldn't show it. Like, oh, I can't, can't show you all that. And she's like, oh, but you know, my sister or kids are going to be in the same hotel. Like, but they don't have me going like, wait, what, what is that? Oh, I thought she said that they were going to be in a different hotel. Okay. I don't know. They were in the same hotel. It's just like, either way, we know what the whole conversation was about. Is this a bizarre sex toy that she's going to use them or something? Like, what is, what is happening here? It wouldn't that be now. Easily. It was, it was new passports and new IDs for the new lives after they, everything filled this role. And then how messy are the producer? Oh, so y'all, y'all get to use that. Like, it's like, oh, oh, the box. I told him about the box. I was confused. Was the box a present from him to her from them to each other? Like, it was from her to him from her to him. From her to him. Okay. Yeah. So, uh, never seen a black man blush, but that's out today.

1:39:00I, I think, yeah, I think easily there together by the reunion. Oh, yeah. That's they've got three kids. Yeah. Don't question how that works. They could probably have triplets by that's what, but in between filming and the reunion, they can have triplets. All right. Sparkle, Sparkle Mega had a whole ass, baby. Yeah. I think I need to go ahead and follow him and her on Instagram. So when they do start posting together, I can see it all because I, I'm living for it. I need at some point, I need the conversation. I need to know what happened. Yeah. Well, listen, I need, maybe following them will give them more of a personality, right? Because he has, he has like, he works out. Have you looked at his Instagram? He's saying, just if you're just looking at it from the show point of view, again, I'm just like, he's a professor. He's smart. I actually feel like everything we've seen from them, they seem interesting. But it's just like their relationship wasn't, uh, like super dramatic. But like, I like perfectly like find people. This is Jason's issue, I think you think that they don't have

1:40:05personalities for like reality TV. Right. But I think they're at their core interesting people. Like he, yes, I'm sure. Okay. We see it from the lens of this show. Okay. The fact that you can go on a show called Love is Blind and find love means you've got to be interesting in some way. Or they're both perfectly boring and suited for each other because they're both just like, I'm such a big introvert. No, I'm the bigger introvert. It's like, okay, y'all, I don't even know how y'all got cast on this show because I don't even think this show tries to cast introverts. Well, um, yeah, I am thankful that Vic and Christine snuck in here somehow some way to give us a breath of fresh air. Um, and yeah, we got a preview for the reunion. Everybody in their mama is there. Yeah. Like I watched it a few times so that I could pause at different points to be, oh, there's so and so and so. Oh, there's, uh, uh, the couple that the the girl from the couple that broke up, they were together for a while. They had kids or like at least one kid, a daughter,

1:41:10um, Brendan and, uh, Alexa, she was there. Um, yeah, like it looks like we've done away with the no former couples in the audience bit because last season, they didn't do that. They were just like, normal people are like, nah, we're going to go back to that. Well, it's just season 10. Like, it's because of season 10, like they're trying to celebrate the 10th season. Hopefully, it's better than last season's finale with the random appearance from Chris Paul, uh, let's focus on what happened during the season. We've got to play some soccer and this thing, you know what's happened. So they even like, don't even try not to expect it. It's going to be there. Oh, well, and then, yeah, name one off the wall thing that happened. Like, like, for example, last season, Jordan and his like chicken smoothies that they brought up in the room. I like, there's going to be something. There's something that they're going to bring back up. They're going to be like, what? I don't know. Yeah. Not that was too weird like that actually.

1:42:10Now, we didn't have like a communal sock bin from like, yeah, who seasons ago, Jordan, chicken smoothies. Um, yeah, I'm trying to think if there's anything, they're soccer. They're going to bring out lashes for everybody. Maybe Brittany is doing everyone's lashes to close out the reunion. But yeah, hopefully it's good. I just, I've learned to stop having high expectations because the Lichets will Lichet. Okay. Hey, you never know which, which version of the Lichets you'll get. And hopefully it's just the opposite of last season. And they actually focus on the couples. I think and I expect that the Lichets will be fully 100% against Chris and Alex. Definitely Chris. And listen, Chris is there. Is there a longer hair? Is he going to show up? Uh, he looks a little bit more like his Instagram picture than, uh, than he did before. Not in the face. Not in the face. Um, yeah, he's, he's there to face whatever music. What?

1:43:15Let's, let's bid on to here. What reaction? What is this going to be a contrite, apologetic reaction? Or is he going to stand 10 tails down on his behavior? I think he will be not apologetic, but kind of like, um, rams, ramsies where he just kind of, where he just kind of like took it, right? Yeah. Like he's like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think he's going to deny it. Yeah. I think he's just going to accept what people have to say for him and not have much to say back. I don't think he's going to apologize. I don't think he's going to deny. Yeah. I think he might decide to go full villain and double down. I think Nick loves to give himself like a good like tongue lashing of the bad men. Like that's Nick's specialty. So I think he'll give that to Chris Atherienian. I think Chris was like, Hey, listen, I know, well deserved. I know I did some horrible things. Um, but you know, I just like, I wanted to be like, well, she just wasn't my type. What do you want me to do? Like,

1:44:15I don't know. I was just trying to be as honest as possible. So I don't, I don't know which you're going to get. I do feel like they're, listen, don't go to a freaking Jimmy to find out what you got to do. Okay. Jimmy gave me a bite. Jimmy's there. I'm not surprised at all. He was not honest. Yeah. So are Jimmy and Chelsea together or not? They're not. They both live in Miami. They're just friends. They're hanging out. They're making content together. They're like, Hey, listen, I know we don't like you know that much, but we can get this brand deal if we start this thing together. So let's, you know, what I think that is that is very smart of them. Yeah. Yeah. I do that. Um, so yeah, Jimmy and his whole new makeover is going to be there. So yeah, I'm excited to see what, what, what, what, what, what's the tell off rings? Are they reading what I call it? The tell off. Yeah, the pod friends tell all. Pod squad, pod squad, tell them. Um, all right. We will be back next week to talk about the reunion. Um, so hopefully, uh, you can't wait for that. Jason. Jason, what are you up to? Yeah, you

1:45:23could find me and Asia talking about first sight over on our Patreon of the perfect matchbox. Come on over again, again, again, I'll say it every time we're on one of these levels of blind podcasts. If you like levels of blind, you will like marina for sight as well. It's some of the same nonsense content. So come over to patreon and talk about season 10. We've got a couple other past seasons in the bank that we've already talked about. So come on over. It's a great fun time. And also catch me on the good pod talking about the show, the good wife. We're doing a rewatch. Me and Rissa Garza over there. Uh, we're in season five of that show. We're also talking about the current season of Elizabeth as it is, which is a good wife's spin-off. So come on over and, uh, let's see if that floats your boat. What about you, Mary? You can follow me everywhere here, um, at frail marie. I mean, you follow me everywhere. And, um, and here you can hear me podcasting more about extractive washapelle. Um, I have an episode coming out next where I talk to season one's winner and talked with her about everything going on in this season. Her thoughts. So a little

1:46:23bit of an off season or a midseason podcast for that. Asia, where can everybody follow you? Yeah, y'all can follow me on all social media at Asia like Asia. That's a YSHA like ASIA. So outside of the maths Patreon that we have going on for a perfect match, you can also find me on my podcast that I started with my girlfriend called Life by Us. That's Life B.I. Us. We have a new episode out every Sunday. Very excited for the episode that's coming out this Sunday. So, uh, there'll be episode three. So you can find us on YouTube and anywhere you listen to podcasts. So please go subscribe if you're interested. Thank y'all so much for hanging out with us for the past hour and 40 minutes. We will be back next week to talk about the reunion. Uh, until then, bye.