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1:00We're leaving today and entering a world of Mickey Mouse waving, princess meeting and greetings. Lightsaber clashing. The toilet's on tower of terror dropping. Banshee flying. Space mountain launching. Galaxy rewinding. What's the whole network galaxy rewinding? Fireworks igniting. World of other worlds. For whatever you love, infinite worlds away at the most magical place on earth. Walt Disney World Resort. No, Greg Cody is hovering over the penalty minute thing. This would be the most delayed penalty in the history of delayed penalties. What are you threatening to press there? What are you doing? What are you threatening to press? No, don't do that. Minor penalty, two minutes. Accidental racism. Oh, yeah. Wow. Oh, yeah. That's how we're starting today, huh? How about me and my dad getting haircuts yesterday, without knowing we were getting haircuts? Couple of Cody's just randomly getting haircuts. Yeah, well, you knew I was because I asked you about the number. That's true, I forgot about the hardware.
2:01Wait, hold on a second. Like, you showed up separately to the barber? Oh, we don't go to the same place. Oh, fuck. Yeah, would you get it? My dad goes to supercuts. Why not? Why don't you guys go to the same place? Why not? Why not? Why don't you guys go to the same place? Why are you making fun of that? That's a 20-buck haircut. Hold on, that's true. That's where you go? Yeah. 20 dollars. Couple of Cody's literally cutting it up. Yeah, there you go. It's actually 23 bucks, which is an outrage. They're 20 minutes. It costs more than a dollar, a minute. You still tip in like it's the 90s? Yeah, what's the tip situation? Surprise you're a supercuts man. I always had you as a guy that went to an old-fashioned place with a barber pull outside. You get a beer. Maybe some people singing a barber shop quartet. Yeah. I don't want to be around the guy who slaps the leather strap with a...
3:01That's it, that was my next thought. But dude, that sharpens his straight edge razor with a leather strap and takes it straight to your fists. That's where I go, oddly enough. I don't know that guy. He could be a serial killer. You're done where he's doing the razor thing. And then I'm like, he could kill me. Yeah, I think that occasionally. And then I Google it. How many times does this happen? Barbers you can trust him. Well, sweetie Todd. When's the last time Greg, you got a hot shave at the barber? Well, you know what supercuts does now. They put the hot towel on you afterward. Wow, they spared no expense. I mean, it's nice. Do those towels come cleaned or do you know? You can tell. I'm like, this is the last time. You can smell the mercy, man. Oh, this smells disgusting. No, I think it was a clean towel.
4:11Let us down. Let us down. Now everyone's falling over him. Life the new kid in the town. Like town. Here's the town. There's only one reason so many teams would want to interview you. You could say one out. It could be your number one offense. I knew that you'd pour it back. Here's nothing to do. I honestly couldn't believe Greg Cody's report yesterday from a source that he was so defensive about the sourcing that he told us exactly where the source told him the
5:12information that the dolphins were wondering whether McDaniel got so many interviews because he's black. Well, don't put words in my mouth. No, that's what you reported. No, it is not. What? Mike was shocked. What do you mean it's not? You didn't say black. He said because he qualifies for the room. Right. But that's the same thing. I mean, he matters framing matter. No, it doesn't. That's the same thing. Those things are the same thing. No, Ron Rivera got an interview. Hispanic. No, but McDaniel didn't get the interviews because he's Hispanic or because he's black. But Cody reported that yesterday with his mind. Would you quit that? Well, you did that yesterday. You said that a dolphin source wondered to you. Wonder to me. Wonder to me. There's no way to know. Okay, there's no way to know. Okay, use your common sense. He qualifies under the Rooney rule. He's an available coach who's pretty good, particularly as an offensive fight. Use my common sense. He's white. Not according to the Rooney rule. That's not true. Now, it's not. It's not a be careful. That's more racist than what you do. Yeah, that's
6:17really bad. Honestly, genuinely. Apologize. Seriously, you need genuinely. Apologize quickly. His father is black. Jack. He's not. Finally, I'm sorry. There you go. Okay. For both the comment and the confusion, the reporting that should have been national news is that you said that somebody wondered that and that can't be possible. Not that somebody wondered it. It can't be possible that Mike McDaniel would qualify under the Rooney rule for accurately being able to be something that helps with diversity for minorities because McDaniel's getting the interviews that used to go to the coaches who would complain. Why am I having to fill out a form about whether or not I'll work on Sundays? This is not a serious interview we're doing. Right. And Bulletin, the Rooney rule doesn't really work well. It's great in concept, but teams misuse it all the time. I'll give you a quick example. The Miami Dolphins
7:18interviewed their two black candidates immediately before hiring Jeff, Jeff Hathley. Okay. Immediately before. Now, I'm not, I'm not saying they were, they were token interviews, but the implication is there and teams do that all the time. So if you're Mike McDaniel, you have twice as much chance of gaining interest to be interviewed. If you all so qualify under the Rooney rule, it makes common sense. The common sense factor is all that my source said. And by the way, I heard that from another reporter who covers the Dolphins full time. Not with the mic. That double source. Is that double sourced? Is that now double sourced? Because I think hearing it from another reporter doesn't make it double sourced. Unless that reporter has a sword. I'm just telling you that I had heard it before. I approached the dolphin executive. I don't know if you understand the way journalism reporting goes, but when you have the information you come from two different places, that makes the alleged report. But it's not a report because
8:19I'm I'm I'm passing along a subject. You heard from weak sources. I heard from a dolphin source that the suspicion is one of the reasons Mike McDaniel was so popular in interviews is that he also qualified under the Rooney rule in addition to being a qualified candidate as a great offensive mind. I am surprised that that has not yet become national news because it was actually pro football network reported it pro football network. Yeah. PFN. Where is that? That's some website. Yeah. It is. I can't confirm. It is some website. Thank you. Okay. Some website. That doesn't seem like great sourcing. But it is some website. Yeah. If you have initials, your legit. If you call yourself PFN, it means your legit. The big story of the day in sports is Bill Bella check not making the hall of fame and a whole lot of people are angry about this. Do you know how hard it is to get Jimmy Johnson to be this kind of angry on social media? By the way, pro football network has 1.4,000 followers on Twitter. There you go. So it hasn't become national news yet. It's just a
9:23random website. I'm with it is some website. There's nothing that my dad took that as a victory. Yeah. No, I'd rather not be reported. No, the 1.4,000. You're like, yes, see? What do you mean you'd rather not be reported? You reported it. I don't consider speaking in a conversation as reporting it. You said a source told me like, what is that's reporting? A source. A source talk on a bigger show than pro football. I get what it says though. Don't you ever like accidentally say something here that may be too transparent and then like someone seizes on it, aggregates it and you're like, that's not what I meant. Really? I wish you just kind of skimpast this one. I'm surprised I have to explain this to Levitard who used to be a journalist. When a source tells me the suspicion within the dolphins or within this source go on is that this may have been a factor. Not that it was because there's no way to prove it was a factor. If you asked the Miami dolphins or
10:23any team, hey, did you really seriously consider these two black candidates or was it a runny rule thing? You're not going to get a truthful answer in all cases. So when the dolphins suspect that Mike McDaniel got more interviews probably than was imagined, maybe it was the fact that he also qualified under the rule. Okay, but what you're reporting is news. It's surprising to me that you don't understand that it's news when you report it from a source. If someone in the dolphins organization thinks obviously it's not provable, right? If someone in the dolphins organization thinks that that's what happened there, that's news. Members of the heat organization thought that Lebron quit in the last finals before before he left for Cleveland. That's news. If they think he did, yeah. And they got very mad at Dan for saying hugely pissed. And as they should have, I wouldn't want that out. But that's news when when people inside an organization that you're lending your credibility to their credibility, I'm surprised that we have to explain any of this to
11:27you as the reporter on this. Right. Anyway, moving on to the Bella check story. You guys are playing tennis. I'm surprised. I have to explain this to you. No, I'm surprised. He's a surprise back. He's surprised. He's just that. He's that bad at reporting news over the years because he's been giving it. No, he doesn't do news. That was a gesture. He doesn't do news. He has columns. He's not in the information business. That's exactly. Mike is exactly right. What I reported was conjecture, not news. Okay. If it's news, I'm going to I'm going to either write it in the herald or I'm going to tell one of our dolphin guys. We'll put it on your pod or say it on. No, I wouldn't. I didn't think I didn't and don't think it's a big deal. Okay. The conjecture is the news. Yeah. Now you're being racist. Well, he's right color. Whoa, I don't think it's a big deal. It is. Here's how you hedge your bets. Say they believe it might have been a contributing factor. That's exactly right. But that's not what you said. That is what he's saying now. All right,
12:27moving on. Please Jimmy Johnson says angrily of the Bill Bella check thing on Twitter. This is just wrong. Number two winning all time. More super balls than anyone unimaginable. Number of division championships. Lots of small jealous voters. I would like to know the names of the assholes who did not vote for him. They are too cowardly to identify themselves. Please, if you did not vote for Bill Bella check identify yourself many explanation points probably too much of a coward hide behind your secret ballot and then secret ballot is capitalized. Is there anyone arguing the other side of this? Have you guys have you guys heard someone take the position? I understand why it is Bill Bella check is not in the Hall of Fame on the first ballot. Look to your left calls coming from inside the house. Well, but Bill Polian is it's being reported that Bill Polian is the one with the bias here and also the integrity of saying Cheater Cheater.
13:29That's the reason and it's the reason that I don't have my baseball Hall of Fame vote. It's the reason that Greg Cody is so comfortable moralizing about this person to first ballot Hall of Famer. But this person's not a first ballot Hall of Famer. Right. Because it's not a museum. It's a home of morals. Why didn't you finish the riddle? Cheater Cheater. I don't know. The pumpkin eater. Dan, Bill Polian used the cheater cheater pumpkin eater defense. Please. Why does he know by the way? What is Bill Polian? No damn six time executive of the year. I got lucky with Peyton Manning. But six time executive of the year. Yeah, but he did something more racist than you and that's tough. That's tough. Wow. Mike McDaniel has been here for three years as a mixed race man. How is Bill Bella check doing something? How is Bill Polian doing something more racist than what I did? Well, the large rally and be a wide receiver, remember that? I'll let Zez cook. The people that are caping up from not being a first ballot Hall of Famer universally are fans of other teams in the division. And I've seen the list of first ballot head coaches. They all appear worthy. If
14:35Bill, all the people better than Bella check is Bill Bella check isn't what a first ballot head coach looks like. I don't know what that is. Don't know that Brady. Don't know that Brady. But loser before Brady, loser after braze, a loser at UNC. You want to talk, you want to talk about coaching your way out of the Hall of Fame? See what happened in USC? See what happened to the end of his time in New England? Okay, let's go to some more credible sources on this subject that are slightly less biased than dolphin fan Jonathan Zazlow. Okay, we got, we gathered that you're enjoying Bill Bella check. Did they? Okay, I don't think that many people believe that the committee got it right. But the parts that I want to parse with you guys is we obviously don't know football. A fraction of the way that Bill Polian does, we cannot assess how the guards played in the game that we just watched over the weekend that decided everything. Nobody here understands even after Ted Wells did that $5 million report, what it is that the deflate gate advantage would or wouldn't
15:38be. But clearly, Bill Polian thinks that it's what toppled Peyton Manning. Bill Polian thinks that whatever cheating that Bill Bella checked did is enough to, I don't think this is just petty-ness with rivalry. Do you? I'm assuming, I'm assuming that he's not guilty of simply saying, I'm a small human being. I recognize that he's a Hall of Famer. I assume first ballot that he is applying a moral standard to this. No cheaters in my Hall of Fame. Am I wrong to assume that he feels like he knows how much of an advantage the cheating gave Bill Bella checked to therefore make him a Hall of Famer. Barry Bonds isn't in the Hall of Fame because everyone thinks he cheated. It's obvious that Barry Bonds is the best player to ever live top five if you want to argue about it statistically, even without the steroids. We've given the stat before. It's one of the most amazing in sports. If you take away all of the numbers from all of his MVP seasons, he still has
16:38400 home runs and 400 stolen bases and no other player has done that. He's not in the Hall of Fame because everyone thinks he cheated. And now Bill Bella checked is not a first ballot Hall of Famer because blank. The point is Bill Pollyon wants to make this moment Bill Bella checking the Hall of Fame about the cheating, correct? Well, hold on a second. Pollyon is flat out denying his involvement. Yes. Like this story came out that Pollyon is the one who's kind of leading the charge that he should be punished because of spygate. And then you had several reporters who got a hold of Pollyon last night. And Pollyon is saying it's flat out false. But then also you're getting this where Pollyon added he could not remember with 100% certainty if he voted for Bella chick. How do you know that? He was 95% sure. He couldn't remember what he voted. Andrew Jones, I mean, what are we doing here? Yes, six years ago, but he's denying it. He's denying that he was part of it.
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20:59This is petty. Yes. It's people with an axi-grine. It's like, okay, I understand the the super bowl tape that was burned in a fireplace of the alleged recorded practice and deflate gate. Deflate gate. Remember when Bill Bella check had that press conference. You put the onus on Tom Brady. I don't think anybody's going to hold that against Tom Brady. This is largely media, largely with an axi-grine against Bill Bella check. And it's unfortunate that he has to be punished by gatekeepers here. Yeah, I do think it's unfortunate because I believe him to be the most successful coach in the history of the sport. And you want to say like, what has he done without Tom Brady? He won two super bowls without Tom Brady as a defensive coordinator as a pro coach under Bill Parcells, one of those with Jeff Hosteltler. He has quite the freaking resume. And it's BS that he's not first bound. These people are all capable of high school pettingnesses. Okay, no matter how old they are. Bill Pelley is 83 years old. It's an age where you could forget if you voted for Bill Bella check. I know you couldn't. You're not 83 yet. 83, I found
22:05with my parents who were both in that realm. You can absolutely at 83 forget some very simple things with age. Let me get this straight. The vote just happened. Okay, we're not asking Bill Polley into recall something from five, seven, eight years ago. The vote just happened. I'm with my dad. And you're telling me Bill Polley and can't recall. He's pretty sure. He shouldn't be voting then. How do you watch the Trump press? I also agree with that. He shouldn't be voting. He can't remember. If he can't go through a cognitive test of, did you vote for Bill Bella check? 16 minutes ago. Jeremy, please. If you can't recall if you did something 16 minutes ago, you should not be. I agree. He's 95% sure he voted for Bella. 95%. Sure, I had a hamburger for dinner last night. So the place though that I land on this as we as we talk it out because I do believe that no matter your age, especially among men, men specifically, men with ego and sports, even more so, you can be high school kind of petty into your 80s. And Jerry Jones, it's been
23:14reported is keeping Bob Kraft out of the Hall of Fame. And I wouldn't be surprised if Bob Kraft who made a 10 part documentary about how Bill Bell chick wasn't responsible for all of those really boiling that 10 part docu series down. I don't, you know, there are some people out there that would push back on that being to take away on the 10 part series. Oh, you think Bill Bell check enjoyed how he was how he was chronicled in the 10 part series made by Kraft with Apple. I did not see any of the 10 parts. I just know that there is a people that book up against that notion. I have heard a very few of them. Maybe if they are at the pro football network, it seems pretty obvious that that was a hit job by Kraft because he had the means to do that to Bella check at a time we weren't soiling Bella checks legacy. Like it was fairly shocking to watch the truth told that way. And it was clear that Kraft was responsible, but it's been reported. Jerry Jones is keeping Bob Kraft out of the Hall of Fame. When the sleuths, the poblatories of
24:15the world go sniffing around. If it's not Paulian, if it's not Kraft, then who? There's no reason. He could still be Paulian. Paulian could still vote for Bill Bell check and also be a respected voice in the room saying, Hey, let just for your consideration, I don't want to be the only guy in the room that says this, but he did have the two cheating scandals. So do with that what you will. By the way, we don't know the number, but there were at least 11 people who didn't vote Bell check. It wasn't like it needs to be unanimous in Paulian, so we don't know the actual number, but we know at least 11 people did not vote. And so is there any sane, reasonable human being without biases saying that that makes sense? Is there any? Can you give me a person publicly putting their voice without biases who has their sanity still saying that it makes sense in any world for Bill Bell check to not be a Hall of Famer? Can someone give me a name? No. No. And like everyone. So everyone who's saying, ha, ha, ha, is somebody who is biased and they're
25:17just mad because they're from the AFC East. And Jimmy Johnson is right. The voters who voted against Bell check owe it to the league, to fans, to name themselves, to raise their hand and say, yep, I'm one of them and here's why. That's why all ballots in every sport, all Hall of Fame ballots should be made public. It shouldn't be, it baseball leaves it up to the voter whether or not to make your ballot public. And by the way, the halls of fame should not be moral halls. And I hope you didn't suggest that I think that if I thought that I wouldn't vote, I wouldn't have voted for Barry Johnson, Roger. Well, originally you didn't though, right? I don't think you have since the beginning. I didn't the first year I voted, but you took a moral stand. You did that. Okay, it's because as I've said many times, I put a distinction on whether you're a first ballot. You took a moral stand. It wasn't because they weren't first ballot Hall of Famers. It's because you penalized them for your morally thinking. They were less deserving of first ballot, not because
26:19of their merit or numbers, because of the morals and then voter vote. Yeah, but you just, okay, you changed your mind, but you said you've never done it and you did do it. The first time you got a vote. Samantha, it is Samantha. I've explained this many times. The first ballot Hall of Famers sacrosanct. Okay, I don't think spy gate is enough of a smudge to not vote for a guy who wants that's what they just did here. They just did the same thing you did with your first vote of a Hall of Famers. I object to the, let's look at them separately, not lump them together. I think there's no excuse, no reason plausible to not vote for Bella Check on the first ballot. Okay, I don't have a Hall of Fam vote for Canton. If I did, I would have stood up. This would have been my entire speech on behalf of Bill Bella Check's candidacy. You just got it locked and loaded, ready to go. He won six Super Bowls. Thank you. Good night. And then the vote takes place. Everybody raises their hands. It's 50 to nothing. Well, no, but on the other side, somebody on the
27:22other side of these aren't museums. These are moral palaces. Somebody on the other side would say, I've got only one thing to say. He cheated many times. Okay, you know what's going to happen, because a lot of voters do agree with me. You know he's going to make the Hall of Fam next year. I don't know. In his second year of eligibility, he will make the Hall of Fame. I don't think anybody would would doubt that. I doubt it. Look, I think everybody was shocked by this. So you saying, if any, if I had asked yesterday on the show, do you guys believe there's a one percent chance that Bill Bella Check is not inducted into the Hall of Famer nominated tomorrow? None of you would have said there was a one percent chance of that happening. And look, it just happened. I might have, I might have raised my hand behind one percent, because Spygate's a real thing. Okay, it's not enough for me to have not voted for him, but Spygate, it cost the team a first round draft pick. The team was fine. $500,000. Bella Check personally was fine. $250,000. Deflate gate was
28:24not a big deal in my opinion. Spygate was. So the question is, how big a deal was it? Well, it had to have been a big deal. Deflate gate pretty got suspended multiple games. It had to have been a big deal. Okay. I'm speaking about my opinion. I take those seasons away. He still has a first ballot Hall of Fame resume. And it seems as though people just want to check Bill Bella Check. See, go on. I feel like, yes, and head as he go checked enough over these slides two years. I know what we do here. We print out the ballot. That ballot that was voted on a few weeks ago with Bella Check on it. We give it to my dad. He votes for who he would vote for in that the end of the show. We see if he remembers. Fine. I accept that challenge. All right, let's do that. Put it on the poll. Ken, was it, what was it? Two weeks ago that the vote was Ken put it on the poll at Levitard show. Can every 83 year old be expected to remember how he or she voted two weeks ago at Levitard show? People always talk about New Year's resolutions, you know, eat better, work out more, etc, etc. We might still be early in 2026, but I'm sure most
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32:34How did it get out? Because the guys who voted, the results are not supposed to come out yet. And the guys who voted were just finding out last night from whoever, I think it was Don Vannata, right? Whoever came out or Seth Wickersham, who came out with the report they didn't get in. You could probably narrow it down to who had that information and leaked it. But it's got to be shocking information. Whoever's been holding onto that has probably known that they have this enormous bit of news since they've had it. Because I don't even know. I'm like Cody, of course, after you know, you're staring at a at a at the sea. And what emerges from the ocean is a spaceship that spits aliens at you. Cody's there to say, yeah, I knew that was going to happen. That I would have told you there was a 1% chance of that happening. So he's here to tell you that Bella check that he's not shocked by this. But I really don't I really don't feel like anybody was thinking that there was the possibility that Bill Bella check under any circumstances would not immediately be a Hall of Famer as soon as he qualified. Like I don't I didn't think that
33:36today or this conversation was a reasonable possibility. Okay, once again, you're putting words in my mouth. If I say I would have said yes to a 1% chance, what that means is I am 99% shocked. Okay. I am 99% shocked. When I'm saying there's a 1% chance, it's that it doesn't surprise me in the least that a Bill Polian, a Robert Kraft may have called in a few chips, a few favors with reporters, right? Because it's mostly reporters. It's not all reporters. It's 50 people clearly got Polian in there. It's not it's 50 people. I don't know just so that we let me frame this correctly. It's mostly former NFL media reporters and includes Tony Dungey and Bill Polian, but not every owner. So just so you know, it's 50 people largely it's former reporters. And that's a small electorate. The baseball electorate is like 450 people. When you only have 50 people, in my opinion, you're more subject to collusion among the voters. Oh, but Greg, though, the thing
34:39that Zaz is saying about 11, that's insane to me. It's a lot of people. You need 80%. It's 20%. It's 20% of the people are sitting here telling you Bill Bella chicks not a Hall of Famer. At least that. In what world? First ballot, not a first ballot Hall of Famer. In what world? And that to me says collusion. Listen, if you have 11 people who did not vote for a six-time Super Bowl winner, that suggests collusion to me. That suggests that voters got together before the vote and said, you know what? Let's keep them out. Here's what else is interesting to me in this. The vote is to be announced February 5th. The news leaks and there is outrage and the pro football Hall of Fame looks embarrassed and should be. Will they take another vote on this? Will they announce Bill a check February 5th as a Hall of Famer and then claim that and then claim that the report was false? I think that's a possibility. Will the Revo completely? You think that's the one? Chads? I think that's the possibility. You think this is outrageous enough that they will do a cover-up in order to
35:44a recall. Journalists. Fellow journalists. I think there's a possibility. I wouldn't predict what's going to happen. I wouldn't bet that it's going to happen. One percent possibility. You'd be 99 percent shot. I think there's a 5 percent possibility. This is being revealed on February 5th. That's when it comes out. One embarrassing day for the NFL. No one's going to be talking about that. Whenever it's talking about Yanis to the Eat, February 5th, that's the NBA trade that's finally bringing that ball up. Do me the favor. Jeremy, get the hell out of here and go to work. I agree. I agree. Go to work on an NBA trade board here so you can finally do something that you want to do and I can get to you on NBA trade conversation because I know Mike wants to get to the University of Miami stuff too because they're going to be loaded again because they're whining and dining the best players that Duke has after just stealing them at crime 112 with Edger and James. But the things that are happening here with Bella check over
36:45the last six years are stupifying and I'd like our guest bookers to go after a hall of fame voter that can give me some insight into this into what was happening in the room because people in the absence of information people are going to go right to the conspiracies and it's going to be Bob Kraft and Bill Polian and who did this. But if it's 11 reporters, one of these hall of fame voters, one of these 50 people would be able to tell us what happened here. Let's go after one of those people and see if we can get slightly more information about this within the next couple of days. Before I get to the dolphins and Jeff Hathley saying the dolphins will not be soft as long as he's in charge. I'll get to that sound in a second. Mike Ryan yesterday obviously to me got carried away when he compares what's happening with Mensa to Kurt flood just because Kurt flood to me represents as a name. I don't even know actually if Kurt flood was that
37:47good of a baseball player or many of his stats. He was okay, but Kurt flood represents to me a symbol of commerce and business that rings and echoes for 50 years because people know that name of a 70s baseball player because he changed the economics of the game. May I walk it back then? I thought that maybe the nation's second leading passer an ACC champion going to another ACC school might be a tipping point on collective bargaining in which you can invoke Kurt flood because he was an agent of change. I just think the NCAA is still making so much money that they are willing to keep this thing going, which is shoddy and bad. Quite honestly, I want the sport to be collectively bargained. I think things like Mensa happening help force that hand when Davo is out there calling for collective bargaining. People should listen. That is a national champion head coach who is pretty old school, but I don't think the NCAA is going to budge because the gravy train is too good. I appreciate actually what you did with that because in real time we had a seismic move
38:52in the business of college football that the local team, look no matter how you want to frame this, the ACC champion, a team that has won an ACC championship game before Mario Christmas ball has played in one, just had what I regard as its two best players stolen by a bigger batter program that has always been bigger and better. Football and is now bigger and better at business and that's Duke. Duke's got graduates with money. Duke just lost its two players. I like to talk to many Diaz about how he feels about this and Miami is going to be loaded next year because they just took the two best players from the team that won the conference that Miami couldn't play in the championship of. Here's what Miami has on offense. Yes, they're losing Mark Helbel and CC Mauanoa on the edges, Jackson Cantwell, who is being mentored by Joe Thomas as a five star recruit. I assume he's going to play right away and you have to trust that Miraball and company will coach up that offensive line, but at the star positions. Darian Menza is the ACC's
39:58leading passer second in the nation behind Drew Mestemaker, right? And doesn't turn the ball over very much either. And in a training ACC champion, you have the ACC's leading rusher in Mark Fletcher, who can also mitigate what's going on along that offensive line, which we assume might take a slight step back because he's the best pass blocking back in the nation. And an absolute dog, as Tony has pointed out off Mike and not one but two thousand yard receivers, one in Cooper Barcade, who's coming over from Duke and Malachi Tony. So they were at dinner last night. Malachi Tony was at prime 112 with Edger and James and the rest of this recruiting class that just fell out of the sky because it's a much easier way to scout if you can just go to the teams in your conference and be like, well, they're pretty good. I'd like that guy and I like that guy. You're making that seem a lot easier than it actually is. Like credit to the staff. That's like these are the guys that we want. We're going to collaborate. We're going to make ourselves super appealing to
40:58these guys and we're going to get it done. And it's going to be messy. Not everybody has a stomach for it. Miami does. We saw this when he was here a couple weeks ago too. And I certainly had not seen him in a very long time. I love that Edger and James is like this elder statesman for the hurricanes now. It's so cool. Yeah. I'm not even sure he went with the caravan that they got a police escort from the campus to prime 112. I mean, he might have just been at prime 112, which is a possibility. I saw all the videos. Yeah. The you signs hand signals probably need a little work. We'll work on that. My name takeaway is how does Malachi Tony already look 10 pounds heavier? Like he looks beefier. Look at those biceps. This is a player that was looks small and growing boys young. He's going to get bigger. How do you swing a police escort to a restaurant? I'm just curious. It's a big professional franchise. You make one call. It's the University of Miami. Look, man, the connection that this school and what it did to
41:59raise generations of football, loving canes is super unusual. Not many teams have Hall of Famers like Edger and James whining and dining the recruits are being mascots like Michael Irman on the sideline. Like the connection here is strong. Let's hear Edger and James here at dinner with these people just saying, look, we got a new squad. We got our quarterback. We got our season. We got tonight. We're going to be back. Here we got miles. We're going to take good care of us. Miles is like, whoa. Good job. My miles getting in there. That hoodie that men's is wearing is over a thousand dollars. Peter Rees looked it up on Keynes Insight. Let's go ahead and if you would please just get the halfly sound for me here because he was asked by Peter Shreger about the Miami Dolphins reputation of being soft. Oh, I aired. You know what? That was portal talk and we have new
43:00imaging for the portal talk and we didn't play the new imaging for the portal talk. There it is. Whenever we're talking portal, he's there talking. I feel like I'm in a portal right now. Wait until the very end of it. I thought it might be distracting the first time. I thought I needed a little introduction as opposed to just this falling out of the sky. So that is just portally. Yeah, it is portal. It is portal. It is portal. Yeah, it's good. Well, yes. You're not sure I'll tell you in a second. I think Miami's going to be good. I think they're going to be pretty good. Pretty fun to watch too. I've been watching so much menza tape. He's pretty good. Me too. I've actually have two. You've got like four minutes. You can just go on YouTube now. Highlights. Mensa. Boom. Six minute clip. I want to be surprised. If you're if you're a Duke football fan, you're wondering what the hell's going on in college
44:03football. And you turn around to six of your friends. They did us dirty. We still have basketball. That's where we got it. We took the boosters from them. That's true. That's where the settlement money is going to. They're basketball team. You got us there. That's all right. Stop. Kids decided they didn't want to go to that school anymore. I have every right because they're not employees. Before we get to the halfly sound though, can you guys put up our new imaging on all of the heads, the foreheads, the four of the four heads who are running the dolphins now so that we can have new imaging for dolphin talk. That is video instead of audio because we've got some substantive foreheads running the dolphins. And one of them is saying, as though the head of the dolphins is now saying, you know why we're not going to be soft because of me. I'm going to make sure that we're not soft. I'll play that sound for you next.
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