Jalen Duren considering the qualifying offer?

0:00Well, as Jalen Durin's story is interesting, we keep having to interrupt our regularly scheduled football Friday for breaking news from our other teams. First, Dylan Larkin, the Red Wings, both released a joint statement that we've read for you and you heard there in the update. And now the athletic Sam Amich and Hunter Patterson are reporting on Jalen Durin saying he's getting apparently close to accepting the qualifying offer, which will get to what that is here to sec, but he has 21 days to make a decision. The way it works is this is his contract year. He can either accept as a restricted free agent. He could accept the predetermined qualifying offer of 9.6 million per league rules or he can sign a long term deal with the team. As a restricted free agent, he was allowed to go out and get offers from around the league. This is the rules when you're a restricted free agent. Anybody can sign him to an offer sheet and then the revenue or the remix.

1:01Epistons can decide if they want to match that offer sheet. He didn't get any offers. So his only option is to play with the Detroit Pistons. According to this story, that was published. Per league sources Detroit's last offer was a five year deal in the $190 million range. Durin is eligible to receive a five year 287 million dollar contract and is seeking at least 200 million. But if they cannot agree to terms, Durin can then accept the qualifying offer, play for one more year with Detroit at 9.6 and then go to the market again as a free agent. League sources are saying he is very seriously considering that route, the choice to force his way into unrestricted free agency next summer. So most players don't

2:01do this because of the money lost in that qualifying offer season, as well as the health concerns that come with foregoing the security of a long term deal, the story reads. The story also says, even if he played the entire season with the Pistons, not a guarantee considering Detroit must consider trading him now rather than losing him for nothing later. Is this all negotiation and talk? Is this bluster or could this happen? Are the Pistons about to lose either now or next year a player that feels like a cornerstone piece over this contract negotiation? I'd say when this whole thing started, I thought anything that happens is just going to be negotiation. That's just seem logical, right guys do for a contract extension. Let's go. He's got leverage because he was on the all NBA team and the second team, whatever. So he knows the parameters are why not shoot for the moon.

3:04His agent is going to do all the work. And that's his off season has gone on and they weren't anywhere near close and getting something done early. And then it was, well, what about offer sheet? Let's check out that offer sheet thing. And we thought, well, that's kind of strange, but the Pistons said they'd match any offer sheet. Okay, that's scare other teams away from doing it probably. And maybe Durin's camp wasn't so thrilled with that. Nobody has said anything as the months have continued on. And the restricted free agent signing to offer shirt, think offer shirt, a sheet thing has passed. And now we're, we're at now we're getting reports of contract offers being exchanged and all this and they're still far apart. The more I'm thinking about this now, it's all adding up to he's Pist, even though he hasn't said anything. And I have to go back to the playoffs, right? He did not have a good playoffs. We all know this everybody talks about it. And there were points in the playoffs where he was sat down in favor of Paul Reed. And the team was better on the floor. And I don't think

4:09he was happy about having to sit down. And I don't think he's happy about the results. And I think maybe he's looking at this now. And again, the suspect, I'm led to believe, but I think it's at a point now where I don't think he wants to be a Piston, unless he's paid what he thinks he's doing. His agent is in his ear telling him your worth this. And he's not. He just isn't. You got the amen Thompson contract out there at the five years and $208 million, which is the new variable that's thrown in the mix. But amen Thompson went out and scored 19 points and had almost eight rebounds of game and the playoffs, but alone the 18 points of game, he did a regular season. Amen Thompson is a, is an outstanding player and a SARS twin brother. And maybe a SARS looking at that going great. Well, when I get my extension, no, you're not your brother. So don't go there yet, but you'll get your extension when the time comes. But you know, who else isn't there? It's Jalen Durant. You're not as good as amen Thompson. So to me, the $208 million figure that

5:10it's out there for amen Thompson and the $190 million figure that's out there for the Pistons, he's way more 190 than 208. If he wants to get over $200 million, I guess that's up to the Pistons. If they're like, we don't really care. Over five years, it's $2 million a year difference. Go ahead and give it to him. Or are they going to stand, stand firm? Where they're at? And like, no, do 190 million dollars over five years. That's a legitimate contract for somebody who did not show up for a center playoffs. Well, you said it sounds like he's pissed with the part and up they kid had and they update there. And I'll read this. It speaks volumes that Durant has chosen to keep his distance from the team this summer. Paralleged source. Durant didn't attend the San Diego team mini camp cake. Coming ham coordinated the week of August 23rd or the label of the Labor Day team party owner, owner Tom Goris threw it his home. Okay. It's one thing. I feel like it's one thing to stay away from ownership. Well, this is going on.

6:11I think it's another thing and disturbing that he didn't go to Cade's mini camp. Yeah. Plus, I mean, if I were his shoes, I'd go to the owner's party. If nothing else, you've got a chance to speak to the owner. State your case. Buddy up to him. We know that the owner likes. He likes the players. Maybe that would help your cause out. Plus, he's a billionaire. I kind of want to see what the spreads like at that party. But well, I think he's been there before. Talk about talk about talk. Maybe there's a week talk about. Yeah. No, but obviously he's not going there because this has gotten a little personal and that's upper management. And he wanted to stay away, let his agent and his team handle it with the Pistons organization. The cake thing, I could say that scheduling conflict, Doug, you know what I mean? Not everyone's going to be available at all times for teammates, you know, get together and gathering. So I really hope this is all posturing. This is just part of the game. Yes, I do definitely

7:12feel Jalen Duren has felt disrespected as camp feels like they've been undervalued clearly. But I feel like maybe I'm hoping this is just the last card they have to play, which is, hey, we will actually sign this qualifying offer if you guys don't come up on your on your offer. What that being said, I honestly think it's financially irresponsible if he doesn't take the alleged offer. That's all on his part on endurance part. If the true offer is 190 million for five years, that's a more than fair offer. I think it personally slightly overpaying, but I think the Pistons are playing the game a little bit. Hey, we get it. We really want you back. We don't want to trade you. We've said all the right things publicly and probably privately as far as we want you back. This is our offer to kind of meet in the middle. And if Jalen Duren's camp is just, they're just headstrong on, hey, we deserve 40 plus million. If you really believe in yourself and you really want to bet on yourself, take the 190, you're so young, you will get another contract. Financial, your response, because for 9.6 million to quote unquote bet on yourself again, there's so many things that can happen. Injury, you don't play as well. You've just lost 180 million

8:18dollars now because you're not going to get that contract back. Take the 190 and if you believe in yourself, you will get another contract. I can't believe it was agent is leading them down this road. I mean, Kang, I made a point months ago and you agree with it and I agree with you. We're on the same page with it. Take the money. It's there and you're so young when it's done. It's not chump change. It's not chump change. This isn't like, this isn't like some kind of insulting offer. Like has any other team offered you more than this? He was available to any team to make an offer. And according to reports, the agent, his phone did not ring. I don't know that I can blame the pistons on this one. So like I said, I think it's really irresponsible of his team and the camp if they don't accept this offer. But if they do do a qualifying offer instead of accepting the extension for the pistons, you might have saved a ton of money. And two, you're probably going to get maybe the best Jalen during every because he better play as asked if he wants a new contract.

9:21It's going to be weird, right? He's if you take that qualifying offer, you're clearly mad at the organization. You clearly won out. You're clearly going to be traded. But you also clearly need to have your market value go up. Yeah. So do you take a qualifying offer or do you take a four-year 38 million dollar offer and maybe even say instead of five years, I want four years to get out of an early. I get a free agency quicker. Two, four, eight, five, three, nine, 97, 97, Jalen Grand Rapids. That's how Joe. Guys, how are you? What's up? So Durin, I know he's eligible for 287. Both the pistons and the league have determined that he's not worth that much. The pistons have made an offer. I understand Durin wanting more. But I think at this point, we're still at the bluster stage. He's trying to create leverage where he has none. Now, if he does sign the qualifying offer, then we're in a different camp because that's an indication to Detroit that he doesn't want to be

10:22there anymore. Yes, he's trying to recoup that lost income. But at the end of the day, being in no trade clause in place, don't you have to consider life without Durin. And if we're at the qualifying offer point, can't you start Paul Reed bench this guy? And because we can't trade him, just be prepared to move on and telegraph that. As a negotiation tactic right now, saying, if you go this way, this is how it's going to go for you. I want to avoid all of this. And I think you should take what's on the table, but I'm not in his head. Yeah, benching and feels like kind of cutting off your nose to spite your face a little bit. You're right about giving them leverage in a contract negotiation and taking away his ability to show his wares. I kind of even wonder if you can do that. But at the end of the day, Joe, they're still trying to win games, win championships, be the best seed they can be. It's interesting what you had to say. I just can't see them doing it. Two, four, eight, five, three, nine, ninety seven, ninety seven, that the plate is full today. As we've got our Lions prediction show, but we also have a statement from Dylan Larkin

11:26saying he will be in training camp with the Red Wings. The Red Wings saying he will not be the captain. They don't have a captain right now. The wait till new management comes in. Larkin says he'll talk with new management when they get here, but he's expected to be a training camp next week. And Jalen Durin strongly considering accepting the qualifying offer to get the free agency. Wow. How's that for a Friday? It's Carson Anderson. Here on ninety seven one.