Hour 2: Breaking Jalen Duren News.

0:00Well, as Jalen Durin's story is interesting, we keep having to interrupt our regularly scheduled football Friday for breaking news from our other teams. First, Dylan Larkin, the Red Wings, both released a joint statement that we've read for you and you heard there in the update. And now the athletic Sam Amich and Hunter Patterson are reporting on Jalen Durin saying he's getting apparently close to accepting the qualifying offer, which will get to what that is here to sec, but he has 21 days to make a decision. The way it works is this is his contract year, he can either accept as a restricted free agent. He could accept the predetermined qualifying offer of 9.6 million per league rules or he can sign a long term deal with the team. As a restricted free agent, he was allowed to go out and get offers from around the league. This is the rules when you're a restricted free agent. Anybody can sign him to an offer sheet and then the reb, or the rebix. The

1:01pistons can decide if they want to match that offer sheet. He didn't get any offers. So his only option is to play with the Detroit pistons. According to this story, that is published. Per league sources Detroit's last offer was a five year deal in the $190 million range. Durin is eligible to receive a five year 287 million dollar contract and is seeking at least 200 million. But if they cannot agree to terms, Durin can then accept the qualifying offer, play for one more year with Detroit at 9.6 and then go to the market again as a free agent. League sources are saying he is very seriously considering that route, the choice to force his way into unrestricted free agency next summer. So most players don't do this because of the money lost in that qualifying offer season,

2:07as well as the health concerns that come with foregoing the security of a long term deal. The story reads, the story also says, even if he played the entire season with the pistons, not a guarantee considering Detroit must consider trading him now rather than losing him for nothing later. Is this all negotiation and talk? Is this bluster? Or could this happen? Are the pistons about to lose either now or next year a player that feels like a cornerstone piece over this contract negotiation? I'd say when this whole thing started, I thought anything that happens is just going to be negotiation. That's just seem logical, right? Guys do for a contract extension. Let's go. He's got leverage because he was on the all NBA team and the second team, whatever. So he knows the parameters are why not shoot for the moon. His agent's going to do all the work. And that's his offseason has gone on and they weren't anywhere

3:09near close and getting something done early. And then it was, well, what about offer sheet? Let's let's let's check out that offer sheet thing. And we thought, well, that's kind of strange, but the pistons said they'd match any offer sheet. Okay. That's scare other teams away from doing it probably and maybe Durin's camp wasn't so thrilled with that. But nobody has said anything. As the months have continued on and the restricted free agent signing to offer shirt, offer shirt, a sheet thing has passed. And now we're where we're at and now we're getting reports of contract offers being exchanged and all this and they're still far apart. The more I'm thinking about this now, it's all adding up to he's pissed. Even though he hasn't said anything and I have to go back to the playoffs, right? He did not have a good playoffs. We all know this everybody talks about it. And there were points in a playoffs where he was sat down in favor of Paul Reed. And the team was better on the floor. And I don't think he was happy about

4:10having to sit down. And I don't think he's happy about the results. And I think maybe he's looking at this now. And again, the speculation when I'm led to believe, but I think it's at a point now where I don't think he wants to be a piston, unless he's paid what he thinks he's doing. His agent is in his ear telling him your worth this. And he's not. He just isn't. You got the A-man Thompson contract out there at the five years and $208 million, which is the new variable that's thrown in the mix. But A-man Thompson went out and scored 19 points and had almost eight rebounds of game and the playoffs. What alone the 18 points of game, he did a regular season. A-man Thompson is an outstanding player and a SARS twin brother. And maybe a SARS looking at that going great. Well, when I get my extension, no, you're not your brother. So don't go there yet, but you'll get your extension when the time comes. But you know, who else isn't there? It's Jalen Durant. You're not as good as A-man Thompson. So to me, the $208 million figure that it's out there for A-man Thompson

5:12and the $190 million figure that's out there for the pistons, he's way more 190 than 208. If he wants to get over $200 million, I guess that's up to the pistons. If they're like, we don't really care over five years, it's $2 million a year difference. Go ahead and give it to him. Or are they going to stand stand firm? Where they're at? And like, no, do 190 million hours over five years. That's a legitimate contract for somebody who did not show up for a center playoffs. Well, you said it sounds like he's pissed with the part and up they could have had an the update there. And I'll read this. It speaks volumes that Durant has chosen to keep his distance from the team this summer. Paralleged source. Durant didn't attend the San Diego team mini-camp cake, Cunningham coordinated the week of August 23rd or the Labor Day team party owner, owner Tom Goris threw it his home. Okay, it's one thing. I feel like it's one thing to stay away from ownership while this is going on. I think it's another thing and disturbing that he

6:16didn't go to Cade's mini camp. Yeah, plus I mean, if I were to his shoes, I'd go to the owner's party. If nothing else, you've got a chance to speak to the owner. State your case, buddy up to him. We know that the owner likes he likes the players. Maybe that would help your cause out. Plus, he's a billionaire. I kind of want to see what the spreads like at that party. But I think he's been there before. Talk about talk about talk. Maybe there's a lead talk about. Yeah. No, but obviously he's not going there because this has gotten a little personal and that's upper management. He wanted to stay away, let his agent and his team handle it with the pissant's organization. The cake thing, I could say that scheduling conflict, Doug, you know what I mean, not everyone's going to be available at all times for teammates, you know, get together and gathering. I really hope this is all posturing. This is just part of the game. Yes, I do definitely feel Jalen Durin has felt just respected his camp feels like they've been undervalued clearly.

7:16But I feel like maybe I'm hoping this is just the last card they have to play, which is, hey, we will actually sign this qualifying offer if you guys don't come up on your offer. What that being said, I honestly think it's financially irresponsible if he doesn't take the alleged offer that's on his part on endurance part. If the true offer is 190 million for five years, that's a more than fair offer. I think it's personally slightly overpaying, but I think the pisses are playing the game a little bit. Hey, we get it. We really want you back. We don't want to trade you. We've said all the right things publicly and probably privately as far as we want you back. This is our offer to kind of meet in the middle. And if Jalen Durin's camp is just they're just headstrong on, hey, we deserve 40 plus million. If you really believe in yourself and you really want to bet on yourself, take the 190. You're so young, you will get another contract. Financial, you're responsible because for 9.6 million to quote unquote bet on yourself again, there's so many things that can happen. Injury, you don't play as well. You've just lost 180

8:18million dollars now because you're not going to get that contract back. Take the 190. And if you believe in yourself, you will get another contract. I can't believe it was agent is leading him down this road. I mean, Kang, I made a point months ago and you agree with it and I agree with you. We're on the same page with it. Take the money. It's there and you're so young when it's done. It's not chump change. It's not chump change. This isn't like this isn't like some kind of insulting offer. Like has any other team offered you more than this? He was available to any team to make an offer. And according to reports, the agent, his phone did not ring. I don't know that I can blame the pistons on this one. So like I said, I think it's really irresponsible of his team and the camp if they don't accept this offer. But if they do do a qualifying offer instead of accepting the extension for the pistons, you might have saved a ton of money. And two, you're probably going to get maybe the best Jalen during every because he better play as ass

9:19if he wants a new contract. It's going to be weird, right? He's if you take that qualifying offer, you're clearly mad at the organization. You clearly won out. You're clearly going to be traded. But you also clearly need to have your market value go up. Yeah. So do you take a qualifying offer or do you take a four year, 38 million dollar offer and maybe even say instead of five years, I want four years to get out of it early. Three agency quicker. 248, 539, 97, 97, Joe and Grand Rapids had Joe. Guys, how are you? What's up? So Durin, I know he's eligible for 287. Both the pistons and the league have determined that he's not worth that much. The pistons have made an offer. I understand Durin wanting more. But I think at this point, we're still at the bluster stage. He's trying to create leverage where he has none. Now, if he does sign the qualifying offer, then we're in a different camp because that's an indication to Detroit

10:21that he doesn't want to be there anymore. Yes, he's trying to recoup that lost income. But at the end of the day, being in no trade clause in place, don't you have to consider life without Durin. And if we're at the qualifying offer point, can't you start Paul Reed bench this guy? And because we can't trade him, just be prepared to move on and telegraph that as a negotiation tactic right now, saying, if you go this way, this is how it's going to go for you. I want to avoid all of this. And I think you should take what's on the table, but I'm not in his head. Yeah, Benching and feels like kind of cutting off your nose despite your face a little bit. Like you're right about giving them leverage in a contract negotiation and taking away his ability to show his wares. I kind of even wonder if you can do that. But at the end of the day, Joe, they're still trying to win games, win championships, be the best seed they can be. It's interesting what you had to say. I just can't see them doing it. Two, four, eight, five, three, nine, 97, 97. That the plate is full today. Because we've got our Lions prediction show. But we also have

11:25a statement from Dylan Larkin saying he will be in training camp with the Red Wings. The Red Wings saying he will not be the captain. They don't have a captain right now. The wait till new management comes in. Larkin says he'll talk with new management when they get here. But he's expected to be a training camp next week. And Jalen Durin strongly considering accepting the qualifying offer to get the free agency. Wow. How's that for Friday? It's Carson Anderson. Here on 97 one. And indeed a a summer day of remembrance and always a bit of a reset. Two, four, eight, five, three, nine, 97, 97. Hey, we got Lions predictions coming in and a whole bunch just came through. But you had the great question, how do you know it's football season? Like what are the telltale signs that your senses

12:26know it's football season? You mentioned the smells. They're great smells. They're company football. A grass and there's a different there's just a different scent in the air than what there was two weeks ago. Yep. For me, it's crisp fall weather. It's going outside and you've got a hoodie on. So not this. And it's cold. Yeah. I mean, I love it when and the leaves start to turn it all that. Here's an interesting one from D in Southfield. Chris Stapleton and Snoop Dogg coming in the air tonight, which is the Monday night football thing they do, which I love. There you go. I love it. Two, four, eight, five, three, nine, 97, 97. It's carry under with no longer yellows. I do like carry yelling at us. Yeah. I don't I didn't notice her in the Wednesday night game, but I wasn't watching from the very beginning. Got to was cracking up Noah Eagle, who did the Michigan Western game. And then obviously traversed to Australia to do the game last night.

13:28I did not did not go to. No, you did not. You're right here. We'll be at the big house tomorrow, Michigan and Oklahoma. Helmet game for sure. Let's get back to your phone calls. We got a Joe and Rochester Hills. Hi, Joe. Yeah, how's it going guys? What's up? So I just want to touch based on the during contract things. So I don't know if you want some money because he doesn't feel respected. He wants to be on a top paid setters and the league to prove to whoever that he is one of the ones. But I don't think that the money should be what the sides I mean, you see Brunson taking pay cuts, Lombie and they've been in the finals or conference finals multiple times in the past couple of years. So I don't I feel like he doesn't feel respected. And that's why he wants the money. But coming from the fan base of Detroit, I feel like everybody in here deep down respects him. I mean, look what we've been through the past five years. And he, him, the star and or not, sorry, a man in K totally changed their

14:30round and changed the culture of the team. It is a star. Yeah, yeah, right. The first time. But yeah, they have changed it. And this this team has gone from bottom of the barrel to top of the east in just a couple of years. And obviously things are a lot different now with the landscape and eastern conference for this upcoming season. But he was a big part of the turnaround. His performance and the playoffs was so subpar. I think it shocked everybody. I think there's one or two things happen either a the agent oversold him on what he was going to get or be the piston's adjusted their offer based on the postseason performance or could be both. It could be both. And the reality is I don't know what argument can be made when you can go to the open market. Now when you go to the open market as a restricted free agent, the fact that you're restricted and Detroit can match any offer might tamp down interest. It might have teams backing off a little bit. And

15:30you know, saying, well, there's no point. And there's only so many teams that can pay you. Apparently Sacramento is super interested, according to this story. But but Detroit doesn't want to do a sign and trade with Sacramento, which they don't have to do. Like if Sacramento doesn't have anything they want, but this story is breaking today is the athletic reporting that Jalen Duren wants over 200 million. The pistons have have stopped their offers at 190 over five years and in the 190 range and the 190 range. Yes. And he wants over to 200 million. And now he's really strongly considering taking the qualifying offers. We approached the deadline three week in three weeks. And if he takes qualifying offer, that's only 9.6 for one year. And then he becomes an unrestricted free agent. That's on himself. It would be a highly unusual move, but he could do it. Let's go to Terrell and Detroit. Hello, Terrell. Hey, how you doing, guys? What's up? Well, I'm calling. I mean, Duren has a lot of upswing. He's a great talent. But at best to

16:30me, my personal opinion, he's just a good role player, maybe great role player. He reminds me of horse, grand with the bulls, but without the jump shot. And I mean, to ask for the match to me is absurd. I mean, one thing about Detroit things, we have Cays, who's ready right now. Cays is super. He's ready right now. We built a good core, but we have to adjust. We need to need Detroit always waste on development. That's how we want to win. We want to develop these players where in this league and in this day and age, you have to go out and get those players. Man, I would trade, Duren. Let's get what we can get. He doesn't have a low post move, a guarantee move that we can count on in the post. That's why K was wore out during the, during the playoffs. We need a player who can at least create, if you're going to pay that kind of money, you have to be able to score in the fourth quarter. You have to be able to get to the free throw line. You have to be able to execute at the free throw line, not just put backs and those type of things. When Miyama, he was down in Houston this summer where everybody goes who wants to improve their low post game. They link up with our chemo lodge wine and they get some type of move. They work on their game.

17:32Duren, to me, he spent the summer pounding and talking about money. When you talk about improving and getting to that next level, especially after that performance, you have to execute in your game with their little things, the extra things. I'm not saying that he couldn't develop that, but K does ready right now. We don't have four years away on a meter time to develop a bafford jump shot and all these type of things. Well, everything that you're talking about, I only disagree with one thing you said and the great thing about, and I'll get to it, but the great thing about Duren at the age of 22 is you really have time to improve your game. You really have time to develop and have a more consistent low post move. That's why I have no issue with the, I hope that the pistons can bring him back. I think I say one thing. You're absolutely right. I was just saying, though, the man the money while you, while we're waiting for you to improve, you know, you have to improve and then you're going to

18:32get the money. Well, that's that's taken the qualifying offer and saying, I'm going to come back next year as a free agent and I'm going to blow away your $190 million offer from somebody else. The one thing I disagree was I would trade him and get what you can get. I think you only trade him for market value. Like I don't like do you sound maybe I misinterpreted that, but you have to get something significant back. You don't trade Jalen Duren to quote get what you can get and maybe that's not what you meant, but I'm not selling low. I'm only selling high. And if and if he won't, there's no trade to be had. So be it. Play out the season. Take Duren's contract into free agency. The money you had earmarked for Duren and go get a player. No, I agree. You have to get some kind of market value for it and there should be. But I can't believe that this has gone on this long. I really can't believe that his agent is steering him in this direction based on his production. Great regular season and nowhere near that in the post season.

19:33And this is where you're at. Take the deal. It's because you're not going to get better from the pistons. 248 539 97 97 back to some football talk. More predictions on this lion season prediction Friday. Get your records on on record. And we will record all these. We keep receipts and we come back at the end of the season and see who did the best. We're about to open up all the stuff for the tigers when their season concludes in a couple of weeks. We have our predictions in the new hour. The Birchie kid live from Allen Park in the new now with the very latest on the lion's Dan Campbell speaking at this hour. Lions will have a practice open to the media. So we'll have a chance to get what exactly is going on today on this eve of the weekend that the season starts for our Detroit Lions. Also, can we learn anything from the first two games? Can we learn anything from the Seattle New England game and last night's Rams San Francisco game. We'll get to that today at 1135. It is Carson Anderson here on 971.

20:58The cars Scott Anderson lots on the table today, including Lions predictions coming in. Mike it worked. The Lions go 13 and four. Reclaim the NFC North bears finish last in the division. The D line shows massive improvement in the secondary does just enough. Ryan and Arizona Lions go 12 and five and win the North. Why the defense will be mid, which will be enough to support the best offense in the national football league from Ray Lions nine and five missing the playoffs. They will lose to the Saints in week one. Shoot. Uh, Detroit rugby writes in 12 and five win the North lose to the 49ers in the NFC championship again. Trucker Chris, very succinct right to the point. He writes 12 and five. Give us your record on the season. We do prefer if you give us a reason why 2485 3997. Our predictions coming up today at 12. Oh, five, perchie at 12. 30. Oh, we do have an hour. You're going to eat that coming up as well. And our picks. If I bet it back for another year at 138 and then the

22:03Gator Rant and the show Gator, it was request coming in last week for the Gator Rant. You were not in on Friday. That's nice. Yes. Yeah. So I had one quick observation about the game last night. There's nothing to do with the game itself. It was just a visual. And I want to know if you guys had the same thought on this from the Melbourne cricket ground. Yes. Although that was on the but hey, there's a hundred thousand people coming out there. They seem to enjoy it. Good for them. The observation was when they when they show the starters, you know, they hear they are and then they have the picture next to the guy. Yeah. My only one thought Matthew Stafford looked like he was homeless. What was that look? Did you see that? I didn't notice. Oh my god. I mean, it's bad enough seeing it like in actual actual acts when he takes his helmet off and on the beard is gray and it's scraggly and his hair is all over the place. But they have the still photo of it. You know, there's photo day. I don't know if he got the memo that that what a photo is going to be photo day because he looked homeless. Huh. I did not notice. Kang, did you notice? I didn't notice.

23:10But I mean, ever since Matthew Stafford's going to LA, you know, obviously his style has all sun changed. He's got a quite bright, bright smile now. I did. I've noticed, but yeah, I mean, his look. He's gotten thinner. So I don't maybe that's the look in LA. I just found it. Yeah. You might have to explain it. It's side by side with some, it looks like an actor. I don't know who this is. And it says, Matthew Stafford looks like he should be robbing them the callisters. Is that from a movie? Is that is that from home alone? Oh, was that the callisters? Yeah. He looks like one of those dudes. Looks like Daniel Stern. Is that is the actor? Where'd you find this guy? I'll look this up. The non-Jope Pesci guy. How is that? You know, yeah, yeah, yeah. The taller guy. Yeah. I just I just searched on the Twitter. Matthew Stafford looks homeless. Okay. It was about like the 10th response. Homeless man. Yeah. He looks like his picture. He's rough. There was a

24:12show in the in the 90s. 80s. 90s called 30 something. I think it was called. And the actor's name was Peter Horton. Kind of looks like like a disheveled Peter Horton now. Yeah. That is he is what he is. If you saw last, I mean, I'm just based on the the photo they showed when they was a quarterback Matthew Stafford. Wow. Not everybody's aging like us. Right. Oh, yeah, he did. Yeah, grew the hair out. Yeah. I'm not even I'm wrong. Is that the look now? And look at his face is like I just got picked up for right for a better side. I don't know exactly a mug shot. Yeah, they just found you know, 20 pounds of weed in my trunk. And is this for your own personal consumption? Yeah. It's not really anything. No, no, no, no, no, of course, then we haven't fun with it. But did anybody else notice that last night when they showed the pictures of all the players, you know, introducing the offense and then you see this picture of Matthew Stafford. Wow.

25:14Picture ever. Yeah. Now I know why he played like a homeless guy. He looks like a homeless guy. I mean, it looks like that maybe those pictures are taken as soon as I got off the plane. No, it just did dog tired them. Like, are we serious? Now we got to play football. Hey, thanks a lot, coach. You don't get the rest either got to picture. Yeah. Yeah. What? What are we saying? We're not staying anywhere. We got dropped on it off of the stadium. We're getting changed. And we're leaving right after the game. If you want to see the picture we're talking about, it has been retweeted at Dungate or 971. And it is, it's an interesting look for Matthew. There you see it now. I do. It's what I thought. That's the full on. Yeah. I mean, that is, what is that? Is every picture you've taken been good? No. But if I knew my picture was being taken for specifically, you know, to be broadcast to billions of people watching on Netflix or whatever it was.

26:16Yeah, I guess I would have expected something better than that. I mean, right? Dude, that's calculated. That's the look. I'm telling you, I don't agree with it or anything of any whatever. Do you, man? But I think he did it on purpose. Like this is, it looks like just shot. I know. Listen, you just woke up from underneath the tree. He just got woke up and arrested. Hey, you. Isn't here. Yeah, look at that. Thank you, in Mike. Things going wrong here. How much you packing, mate? What you got there? It's illegal. Right. Surely you got a stash. What's with you there, mate? Well, you can check it out for yourself. Add Dungate or 971. You know, you can't sleep with the wallabies, mate. Easy, Gator. Leave the callers alone. Did anyone throw a boomerang in his wife at the game? What? Did the pretzel do that pretzel in Australia?

27:24Came right back. Nice throw, Maj. Look, mate, if we hadn't woken you up here, you would have been eaten up by a cast swearing. You look, we showed up. You guys been a walk-up for a while now, mate. By the way, the tease was, did we learn anything from the first two games? And this is why Gator comes back to the Matherstaffers at our time. Well done. Let's go to Larry, your next on 971. Hello, Larry. Hey, how you guys doing? What's up, Larry? Hey, I just wanted to complain about the rowing. Okay. I was like, I kind of just was like in my car and just some cash for some friends of mine going back and forth. And we're just like, why doesn't everyone just boycott the team with hold their season ticket purchases until they find a new GM?

28:28I mean, you can do whatever you want. Why just don't understand? Why do the fans do this? Why do they, it's like they keep showing up in giving this organization support, which I love the Redwings, but I hate the way this organization's run. It's worse than, I don't know, in an organization in hockey that is more poorly run than the Redwings. How do you fire a general manager and not have any plan of what to do? You have a captain of your team that wants out. They still don't know what to do. Well, it's crazy. I guess, what I would tell me is that I don't think that this is why I think something happened in the middle of the summer with Steve Iser and Chris Illich, where there was a conversation with his head that went the wrong way and that maybe there was like a snap judgment that said, all right, we need to part ways right here and right now because why wouldn't they have done that, you know, a month beforehand and they didn't. So when you say that you have a plan in place, well, I mean, if something happens dramatically, if there's one flashpoint moment, then you don't have to. I bet the plan wasn't to let him go in the middle of July. And you're everything you said,

29:30their Larry is is is pretty much spot on. I have no, I mean, I don't know. This is not good. I don't follow the other 29 teams in the NHL to know where, you know, they all have GMs. No, that's a fact. That's a good point. I'll help you out here. I'm going to lay up this way. At least we have a GM. I just like I said, you know, same thing with the Tigers, too. It's like they don't do anything in the off season. It's like, what, you know, I, I, I, I want an $80 million in payroll in the off season. Well, right, now that, that's exactly right. Last last season, of course, but I got some saying it's that the trade deadline, they did nothing. So why are we supporting a team that doesn't do anything to try to actually win? This is clearly about making money for Chris Illich. This is not about winning. I disagree strongly, when it comes to the Tigers, I think, I think when it comes to the Tigers, when you add $80 million and have the highest payroll in the history of your organization, I think you're trying to win. Now people are dismissive because

30:33they like to spend $80 million. Oh, not on him. Well, they did. And, and then at the trade deadline, they made the move that was the smartest move for a team that was fading. They're trying to win. They're just not trying to win this year. They got to a point where they, they dug themselves too big a hole. I, so Larry, I get your frustrations with the red wings and what they're going through. I don't know that the Tigers are a representative of the team that doesn't care about winning. And look, I actually like to move to red wings made in the off season to add Victor Arvidson and add Kegan Colossar. I think those are going to be two players. We really are going to like. I do think it's curious when this is a large reason because they don't have a GM here. But I mean, what's going to happen in Simon Edvinston because he's a restricted free agent. They haven't made him an extension of. For people wondering why we're talking about the red wings. We're talking about the revings because Dylan Larkin released a statement today and basically said, I'll be a training camp. And, you know, he said conversations in depth conversations with the revenue leadership.

31:37And he will talk to leadership when a new GM is in place. And the revenue said, yeah, we're looking forward to having him back training camp. He's under contract. Any conversations about his future will be taken place privately when a new hockey operations leaders been named. And then maybe the most interesting thing they announced the remings will begin the season without a captain being named. And he for discussions decision regarding this topic. We've made once the new hockey operations leadership is in place. And it may be Dylan Larkin. But it's they're going to lead up to the new guy. 248, 539, 97, 97. We've got that. We've got the Durin story. Apparently, he's strongly considering taking the qualifying offer as we move in on the deadline, which would effectively bring to an end, not at a median end, but most likely bring to an end Durin's time in Detroit after next season because he will take his his talents elsewhere as they like to say is a restricted as unrestricted free agent or the distance might decide to trade him. We got our Lions predictions coming in. Ars at 12.05. What will the Lions do in a 17 game season?

32:41Give us a record. And a reason why go on the record. We record these. Keep receipts over them up after the season. See who did the best. It's Carson Anderson 97.1. So Gator. I got a theory. And it's it's a theory just to remind people that big giant moves come with risk. And a year ago, the big giant move that was made that impacted our Detroit Lions was a green Bay Packers made a big giant move to go get my comparisons. That was a big giant move. And when you do that, it's not like the only way you're trying to win, but you're putting a lot of

33:43cap space and resources into getting this one big chip, right? This one big player. And that players, you know, there's a lot riding on that player's success and failure and they can get hurt. And like a Parsons did get hurt last year and isn't ready to go at the beginning of this year. When we ask kid, did we learn anything last night? Miles Garrett didn't record a stat. No sacks, no tackles, no assists, no pressures. When the game was over, he said, quote, that's the worst version of myself that I've ever put out there. Adding that his knee was not 100% going into this game. Now, uh, moves like that are tons of fun. And and I'm not against them. Don't get me wrong. But when you make a big giant move,

34:49and and you know, just because his knee hurts in week one doesn't mean he's he's done for the year. But they put him on the field last night, apparently with a bad wheel. And he did not record one stat. That is um, that's troubling if if you're the Rams. Now, maybe look, he they they know this going into it. Perhaps and they well, it's it's a long trip. Whatever they can pull off the first game of the year. And I suspect that's what the Rams will do. They're going to blow this off. And they should yuck throw it in the garbage. Yep. Don't need to look at this again. We know everybody knows what happened there. We were terrible. Whatever, you know, and maybe because Mac got picked up for vagrancy. We don't know. Uh, but things were we're not good for the Rams in the game last night. And it's it's something that they'll the work on for sure. But I look, I expect Miles Garrett to be an impact player. I actually do too. I don't want to get carried away here. But it

35:50was starting off where you're the worst version of yourself in your first game with a new team. That's not good. And now does a knee injury explain things away? It does. But you wonder if that was the case. I mean, look, Aaron Donald stayed back. He didn't play in this game. In fact, he didn't even travel with the team should Miles Garrett have stayed back to a Fisany wasn't ready to go. I mean, I did see some footage, isolated footage of him going against Trent Williams because everybody looks at this, this one of Mac. One of the best slap tackles in the history of the game going against one of the greatest defensive end in the history of the game. And Trent Williams owned them. You know, there were times I thought maybe this could have been called a pressure, but you said there were no pressures recorded. But Trent Williams did the job. And that's got to be a little troublesome for the ramp. It's one of those things. It's just I make a little footnote here early in the year. And it's as we like to say on the program, it's something to monitor. Kang, what did you make of this debut by Miles Garrett? So obviously it wasn't a good one. But I did

36:52say yesterday and I felt this way for a while. This week one in the NFL is always the like the biggest liar or you know, you overreact to a way too much. But you don't forget it completely. So like you said, maybe Doug, it's like a little footnote. You just kind of remember, put a pin in it, whatever. But Miles Garrett clearly didn't look like himself. This guy's a beast, you know, reigning defensive player of the year. Maybe it was the knee. Maybe it was the flight, you know, because they don't even know. They took the red eye in. Right. Maybe it's because Trent Williams is an absolute stud at left tackle. All three of those things could have played a factor in the wide Miles Garrett was not effective last night. Or maybe it's the fourth one. I know it's crazy. It's not for elite players, but they can have off nights as well or off mornings because this came was like 10 30 in the morning. So, um, you know, all that stuff can play a factor. I personally enjoyed it because I'm anti rams. I'm anti this super team. But you know, you brought up the stat. What was it? The last 30 years of 20 teams that have been favored this much favorite to win the Super Bowl have not won it. Yeah. Is this over 20? Yeah. Is this another example of that

37:57Doug where you put a super roster together. Doesn't mean anything. I mean, I celebrated appropriately. The Rams getting smoked last night. I was fired up that they got their butts handed to them. And I, you know, this is, I doubt it's indicative of the way their season is going to go. But that's one data point, right? That's one of 17 that did not go well and it didn't go well at all. Could it have been just the flight? It could be. Could it have been, you know, they're maybe you look that staff and go, dude, what's up with that hair? I can't play like this. But I mean, could it have been just San Francisco's good? It really could have been. Could it be San Francisco is dare we say better than the Rams? You know, they, they, and this is why the schedule game is so ridiculous is, hey, it's not the most surprising thing in the world when one NFL team beats another. The margins aren't that much. Now, I don't want this to be misinterpreted. Don't interpret this as I wish I'm glad the Lions didn't get my Oscar or Michael Parsons. I'm not. It's just a reminder that those moves do come with some risk. If Garrett's knee is a thing, oh, I, and, you know,

39:02Parsons got hurt last year. And the Lions certainly spread thinly, but got added more depth in the off season. And I hope the plan works. But there's no guarantees because you don't know who's going to get hurt. No, sir. But with that said, the other thing from these first three, first four games rather is very little scoring. Only one team had more than 300 yards, and only one team scored more than 13 points. So, you know, slow starts for offences, or is it, is it just too small sample size to think that this is a deal? I mean, we got two games of evidence that show that offence is slow. Is that a trend, or is that just, you know, hey, first first game jitters middle of the week. I tend to think it's probably more that than anything else. I don't expect that like Jared Goff's going to throw for 186 yards in the game on Sunday against the Saints. I think the Lions offense will be going

40:05just fine. And I suspect we're going to see a lot of offenses be fine on Sunday. But I mean, it's such a strange game because of the it was Australia. Yeah. I mean, it's not just going west coast or even going six hour difference and playing in Germany or England and playing earlier in the day. I mean, this was, I mean, you're jumping 27 times zones or whatever. You're playing in the future, which is the past. I don't know what day it was. It just crazy to play in over there, half literally halfway around the world. I think that maybe just brush it off that way for the Rams. But if you're San Francisco, you're feeling pretty good about yourself. You know, Fred Warner talking about Brock Pertie after the game saying, this is why I think he's the best quarterback in the league. And Brock Pertie has had a really nice start to his NFL career. And everybody's still questions him. Like, how good is Brock Pertie? Can't be all that good. Well, they added Mike Evans and it looked pretty good there with that offense. So there's something to begin there. It's not just Kristen McCaffrey and George Kittle. You got some other players there. Now, and he both Samuel and running well with him again. So I, I think it was a bad start to

41:11the season for the Rams by a bad decision. Whoever's decision it was with Sean McVase or if it was their, their GM, I don't know who made that decision, but not a good decision to decide to fly in the day before. And Pertie was really good. Stafford didn't throw a touchdown pass in the game, which he'd thrown a touchdown pass in every game last year. Didn't throw a touchdown pass. Pertie went 25 to 34, three touchdowns, the one pick. Plus he had a haircut. He was the better groomer, the two quarterback, the two quarterbacks that played last night. He got along with the kangaroos. Yeah. But Stafford looked off. Yeah, but you know, Drake may look off too. And he, those are the top two MVP vote getters last year. Both, and they played in the States, Drake May. So there's no excuse that. Oh, that's okay. So I don't know what that happened to that game. MVP vote getters last year were horrible to start the year. Our predictions for the lion season coming up at 12.5 here on 97.1.