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Digital Social Hour — Jake Rattlesnake;. Why Free Speech Feels Impossible Outside the U.S. | DSH #1818. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.
Many of his scientists on tape years ago saying he believes that anybody who is not a Muslim is like cattle Yeah, he's on tape saying this and this is no joke. These people are basically animals to him You don't have to treat animals with any respect You don't have to tell the animals the truth all you have to do is just treat them with whatever you need to do to have your ends met So he goes to the UK and he is you know this huge journalist in the UK You know it's lambasting the right wing and very pro immigration and he drives for that agenda And now what is he live? Who now he lives in America and he's doing the same thing And he's at the left wing protests saying how great immigration is and how Trump's are fascist This guy is a Muslim subverteur He is a pawn for Islamic immigration into the West All right guys we got Jake of rattlesnake tv here all the way from Australia man Literally just fluent now you must be exhausted Yeah, I've just done like a 24 hour flight that I was seeing how we go I just have one of Rick Flair's energy drinks Yeah, let's go baby
I'm taking that flight next week so I'm excited And I'm going to give you a whole itinerary list You said you don't have many places Just the zoo, Steve Irwin's zoo that's it Yeah get that out of the way the zoo and then I'll give you the real stuff I need good food I need good stuff You want to go to the mountain towns as well You want to go see some of the beautiful mountains of the beach towns Yeah, I got you bro But you're ready to leave huh you're ready to move out here I think so man I think so I've been doing it over the last few months from Oz And it's me and Andrew had our extravaganza show which is four times a week And it's at 7am for me so normally I like to have a good morning routine and everything So that can be a bit difficult but then obviously just Lying up time with guests and everything Yeah Individual is really hard and I want to create a studio like this Yeah, did you show it? What cities are you looking at move if you potentially move out? Probably go Dallas Dallas Yeah, Texas is solid How did you and Andrew Wilson get close and how did you start the show and build out Relationship So I actually saw him I don't know if you've ever seen the debate that he did with Matt Diller Huntie back in the day older one Yeah, yeah, so that was the this sort of real
That was his sort of launch pad that debate he was doing heaps of stuff before then But I'd never seen his work and then I see this debate with Matt Diller Huntie Where he gets out there and he just rips this guy's world to your part in the opening statement And I mean this was just brutal And by the end of it you can see Matt Diller Huntie getting really scared and nervous And looking at the moderator and texting the moderator Wow, and basically just looking for a way out And so it gets to Matt Diller Huntie And he basically says well he was mean to me and he was attacking me personally Which he wasn't really he was attacking his arguments And a part of that is is you And then he just bailed out and he said I'm not going to do this debate And I was just like wow, so I made a video on it And I said you know I can understand some people might not Think that the way that he communicates is overly tasteful I don't really care about that Tell me in the comments why you think he's wrong No one could tell me Wow Then I reached out to Andrew and I was like do you want to come on the channel So then it wasn't like a combative interview But I was sort of prodding him about his world to you Because I was definitely less I was more moderate at that stage
And then he radicalized me I was you over Yeah he did I was more moderate at that stage And then when I spoke to him It just made more logical sense to me And a lot of the Christians that I'd sort of interacted with I liked their message fundamentally We have a lot in common But I found a lot of them very ineffectual If I'm honest And a lot of them were very like doing a lot of tone policing And a lot of self glazing And it just seemed like very performative It didn't really seem very authentic But then with guys like Andrew and Jim Bob and Jay Dyer We can have a beer You know, together we can have a good time But we can we also have very similar world view And it's not so like taking yourself so seriously And I think people just relate to that a lot more That makes a lot of sense You had a pretty established channel before you interviewed him Yeah, yeah I think I was already up at like maybe 600,000 So that's the best stage For Australia, that must be massive Yeah, definitely be one of the bigger ones I mean, you've got myself You've got Isaac Butterfield If you know him At the Barcelona He's a comedian Who sort of commentates on social things
You've got a guy called Friendly Jordy Who has a big political page But then otherwise There's not really much out there Yeah, so I think the US is definitely the next step for you man Yeah, well I mean it's like I like to compare it to playing NVA versus in the NBL Like if you're a basketball player You want to go to America I'm playing the NVA You don't want to stay in the NBL So I mean I already sort of sort of play in the NBA myself But I just need to actually move over here But then it's the whole visa situation Which is really difficult Yeah, you got to find a wife man That's it man If anyone knows anyone If anyone knows a good Christian girl Under 25 Send in my way What's dating been like Have you attempted international relationships Or do you date for the most part Girls that live in Australia I can't date Australian girls Oh you can Yeah, because There would be some good ones out there But it's just You know one of the things that Andrew told me Which was quite funny In our first interview Was he was like Man The feminism It's in the water that you drink And the air that you breathe And I thought That's so true Is that bad in Australia It's that bad
Why it's that I thought the US was the worst No, no US Australia is way worse You serious? Yes, Australia is way worse The US has a big Christian base still Like there's a lot of Christians in the US You're still a very Christian country You can go to a lot of places And they've got these big conservative communities And lots of Christians And people sort of think the same way as you do Like when I come over here I'm like It's like a breath of fresh air to me To be like Oh yes, I go get to go hang out with my best friends Wow But in Australia If you tell somebody that you're anti-abortion like I am They'll look at you like you've just said That you want to genocide women or something Holy crap Has it been like that your whole life Or is that a newer movement Well I mean I've like I said I was more moderate In my early 20s and everything But then I think as you go down the logic tree And as you sort of go down And take this worldview to its logical extent There's only You know you can only hold off on these arguments for so long And they're very controversial and everything But if you're looking for the truth Then that's an argument for me that There's just There's no justification
To be a pro-abortion From a secular worldview or a Christian worldview But anyways arguments like this And having a worldview like this People think you're some sort of a schnazzy Or something like that Do you feel like you can fully speak out over there Do you feel like there's repercussions When you talk about certain topics and all that Oh there's repercussions yeah Even after people out of there Oh yeah man Yeah sure So you're in crack Because I know Canada does that But I never heard Australia doing that Yeah man they'll destroy a lot over there She is Yeah it's bad So have you been like shadow band or demon times A lot of things I mean this weird space Where I commentate a lot on American politics I don't get that involved in Australian politics I don't really get involved with these marches And everything There's a lot of big protests That have been happening in Australia In terms of anti-immigration marches And I'm all for it and everything However I do know that there is It can be a little bit ashroturf There is a few Nefarious bits of funding going on behind the scenes And all that sort of stuff So there always is right Yeah yeah so I'm sort of Keeping it at arm's length if you will But I'm in this weird space where I'm not really
Like I'm big enough to be To for them to care about But not big enough in the Australian scene For them to really go after me like that Yeah interesting Yeah yeah that's very fascinating It seems like a lot of countries are having an immigration issue right now Man it's crazy Yeah it's like I thought it was just us And then I read other countries dealing with it on the news And I'm like this is everywhere Europe is He's absolutely horrible Yeah you just went there right Yeah what was out like Man if you're What's your what's your go-to background I'm half Irish half Chinese Half Irish half Chinese Yeah I've been to Ireland, been to UK Actually no I haven't been to the UK I flew in there I heard it's bad out there though Ireland's one of the worst Oh Ireland is yeah Wow Yeah Ireland they've got Hundreds and thousands of migrants just being shipped in Regularly by all of these NGOs and everything So there are some things Absolutely Ireland is one of the worst in the entire In the entire European continent Because Have you seen recently they've had massive protests at And I'm not sure how much I can say on this
In terms of words and everything If you guys have to beep things out We might beep the crossing But I can Well there was recently This is just one example There was a huge riot in Ireland Because there was a little girl Who was in the Like a government care In one of these government agencies And she was abducted and raped At a migrant facility So they have all these Facilities where they keep the migrants Whether they're nice hotels Or whatever else And these migrants will just stay there And they'll let it go wander around Throughout the day All on taxpayer dollars A 10-year-old girl Was brought into one of these facilities Abducted rape in the facility Girls And then the Irish people just Started losing their minds about it I mean as you would And started writing Started just doing all kinds of things But this seems like a monthly occurrence now That's terrible I just went to Austria And went to Vienna You know, Vienna is like The height of European culture When you think about You know, classical music And when you think about You know, sophistication And high society You think Vienna Motes art, Beethoven, Strauss
You know Um It was just Crazy because I went out of the old town Into just A normal suburb And the churches that I went to this one church Called the Church of Saint Anthony It was a video of me doing it And it's just Completely and utterly Desecrated the whole way around Oh my god Yeah, but it's awful Man, it was terrible And this is a place it's called um I can't remember what Frit- I can't remember what the suburb's called But um It's Completely Islamafide You barely see any Austrian people there whatsoever And these Muslims are just all around the church Using it as basically a recreational area Holy crap Yeah, and then I posted that video I got millions of views on On Twitter and on Instagram And I heard all these Muslims coping about it Making videos Saying I'm some sort of like a Zionist Chill and it's like Man, like There's no accountability That's terrible It's a shame because when I was in high school in college I always looked forward to doing like a Europe tour When I was older and could afford it
And now it seems like it's kind of dangerous Oh yeah If I want to hit like a bunch of countries in Europe You got to move really smart Yeah man Yeah, so there's a YouTuber called Qaz I'm sure You know Qaz And he does Latin America He's been to all different places He gets an Nicaragua And Guatemala And Columbia And Venezuela And doesn't have any security But then when he went to Europe When he went to Brussels When he went to Paris And these places He has to get security Wow And it makes sense to me Because I've been around Latin America as well I've been around At Columbia Argentina Peru Bolivia Ecuador All these places And you can move pretty good But then when you get to Europe And when you go to the Islamified parts of London And Islamified parts of Vienna as well You don't get families coming over there You get military aged men Coming over So these are the You can imagine Who's coming over on the boats For economic opportunities Not children It's not women It's men Because oftentimes These guys come from Arabic societies Which have High rates of polygamy You know
And they have a big underclass of men Who have no access to women So like Donald Trump one said They're not sending their best They're not sending their best But yeah So you get a lot of these guys Military aged men Who are coming over to these countries And just reaping all of the social benefits Social welfare And they see these white girls with Their legs out And they're like Essentially they think of those girls as halls Right Because in their country And where they're from That's just not allowed You know They have burgers and everything So they come to a European country And they see a Swedish girl Who's just half naked Shout out to today Sponsored quince As the weather cools I'm swapping in the pieces That actually gets the job done That are warm, durable And built to last Quince delivers every time With wardrobe staples That'll carry you through the season They have false staples That you'll actually want to wear Like the 100% Mongolian cashmere For just $60 They also got classic fit denim And real leather and wool out of wear That looks sharp and holds up By partnering directly with ethical factories And top artisans Quince cuts out the middleman
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And when you look at places like Is it Minnesota? Where the Somali and guys running for office And Dearborn, Michigan is basically New York City too, right? With Mamdani Yep So what happened in the UK Was that the left wing The conservatives in the UK have been pretty bad with this too But the left wing governments are terrible for this You guys like Tony Blair, the Labour Party The Labour governments They're very pro-immigration They're very pro-EU So the way that the European Union works Is that they've got a European parliament And you can elect representatives from your country To go to Brussels Which is where the European Union meetings are And then they make decisions on behalf of Europe from Brussels So you've got a few representatives But then you have to compete with all of the other representatives So you basically lose your sovereignty When you're a part of the European Union So then the European Union We'll try and tell England Or we'll try and tell Poland Or we'll try and tell these other countries Or you have to take X amount of Muslims Or you have to pay this amount of money
And the Hungarians They said, well, we'll just pay the money But they try to do the same thing with England as well And so that this is one of the reasons why England did Brexit But they tried to leave The European Union Even though it's been reasonably ineffectual The spread of... Back to your question though The spread of Islam Is hugely, hugely concerning Because what happens is they will go in And they will use the left wing governments To get them all in But I mean Anybody who knows anything about Islam Know that they're not exactly liberals They're not exactly liberals The way that they think But the liberals are the ones who enable them all to come over And then you've got guys like Medi-Hassan I know you Medi-Hassan Medi-Hassan is on tape Years ago Saying He believes that anybody who is not a Muslim Is like cattle What? Yeah He's on tape saying this And this is no joke Wow These people are basically animals to him You don't have to treat animals with any respect
You don't have to tell animals the truth All you have to do is just treat them with whatever You need to do to have your ends met So he goes to the UK And he is, you know, this huge journalist in the UK You know, he's lambasting the right wing And he's very pro-immigration And he drives for that agenda And now he lives in America And he's doing the same thing And he's at the left wing protest Saying how great immigration is And how Trump's a fascist This guy Is a Muslim subverta He is a He is a pawn For the Islamic immigration For Islamic immigration into the West And he works for Al-Jazeera Who is like a Qatari media company I mean, it goes deep now I have seen Qatar funding certain people though, right? Yeah, yeah, it is a little concerning Especially if these people are living in America Yeah, yeah I think Americans sleep on the Muslim threat a little bit In Europe it's sowing your face Yeah But they do have to be careful in America too I mean Well, if they take over Europe I mean, they're coming out through us next
Let's be honest Yeah, but America will be the next target Yeah, I think that we're going to see a big civil strife in our lifetime For Europe I think that we're going to see a huge civil strife Because If you look back at the history of Europe It's a series of conquests And then reconquests Between Christians and Muslims So you have the Ottomans who invaded Yeah, so you have Islamic caliphates Who came in and invaded Europe And they'd taken over You know, parts of northern Northern Africa Like Algeria and Morocco And these places And Spain and Portugal And then after years and years and years Of Islamic aggression That's when the Crusades started That's when they decided They had to do something about it And push these Muslims back Right And then you look into the, you know, the Battle of Vienna for example That's another one You look into like Battle of Budapest I was just there and I was You know, looking at all of the History of how the Ottomans came And conquered Budapest And they occupied Budapest for a long time And eventually The Holy League had to get together
Which is The Polish and the Hungarian Empire And even the Greeks and Italians They got together And they were like, listen, we have to do this for Christendom You know Put out differences aside We have to repel this Islamic invasion For Christendom So there's a lot of historical context there And right now we're at the stage Where the Ottoman Empire Could only have dreamed of having this many Muslim Military age Muslim men in Europe It would be their wet dream To see what has happened today There's what, two billion, I don't know Yeah, I don't, I mean, I don't Two billion, I think, in total But I mean, just the amount of men in Europe Living in Europe That's, that those are assets Right, if you think about it Because the way that Muslims view the world Is you have Muslim areas And then you have combat zones Right, so you have Muslim Places that are run by Muslims These different places in the Middle East And then you have combat zones And you know Don't really say this as much But that's just the way it is with them
And you know, when they go to a different place This is not like URI being an expat to a different country And being like, oh yeah We're going to go and move to Let's say we're going to go to move to Jeremy We're probably going to eat the The German food And we'll probably, you know, drink the German wine And we'll be expats They view it that way Yeah, they view it as like a slow conquest Because ultimately, fundamentally What they believe is that Allah is the truth And they believe that Muhammad was the last prophet And then this is the last hope for the world So if they go and they spread Islam around the world They are doing the work of Allah That is so crazy to me Yeah, so they really think that way When they move somewhere now Of course they do Yeah, wow Yeah, so they're playing the long game Oh yeah, big time That is really interesting Have you, I know you're into debates Have you debated any Islam yet? No, I haven't debated any Muslims I mean, I wouldn't I don't think I'd be well And I've versed on their theology To really debate them and get into the nuances But in terms of what's better for society
Christianity or Islam Yeah, I would love to debate that That would be I'll try to set that up for you Yeah, for sure man Next time you're here I've been doing a lot of religious debates It's very interesting So you've been Christian your whole life I haven't, I was only Well, I mean, I was born and baptized to Catholic And I went to the Catholic school But I'm not sure about your background A lot of people have a similar story Where they grow up And they do our fathers And all these sorts of things And it's just kind of meaningless to you Yeah But then you get older And then COVID is what really Redpilled me about this stuff Because I was a big atheist before that While I was in my early 20s I was one of those reddit atheists They were like Oh, you believe in a sky daddy and stuff And I worked at the Salvation Army So I worked at a Christian organization For a few years And I would always make fun of them And I would always be like You know, you believe this guy walked on water You believe he came back from the dead And none of them had an answer for me So I thought that I was too smart And then the COVID stuff happened And I started to perceive What I could only describe as evil Going on
And I started to look into the structures of it And what was really happening And especially the herd mentality And you sort of Started to realize I know it's kind of a bit corny at this stage But you sort of started to realize How totalitarian regimes Can come to power Because everybody just follows And people are so malleable They're like sheep On a mass scale Like that mass formation psychosis So I started to see all of that And I'm starting to think Wow, that's evil But do I believe in evil What is evil You know If I'm an atheist Enough, I'm a materialist And if I just believe that Everything is just like material And if I All I am is just a complex series of atoms And newtons and proteins And if I lift my arm like this It's only because of the complex process It's not because I have a governing faculty It's just the process So if I really believe that And what is evil I can't put my finger on evil I can't put it under a microscope So I'm talking about something It's purely metaphysical right now So if evil does exist Then is there an opposite And if there is an opposite Then what is that
And obviously The Typically that would be God You know, for a religious person And a few people I really knew and respected Started to come into my life And And sort of talked to me about Christianity Which was new A guy that I really respected His name is Stephen Shavira He's a historian I asked him What do you think is the most Important thing for a young man To try and do to live a Like a meaningful life And he said Just look into the life of Jesus Christ And follow it And I was a bit taken aback as I said You're like a smart guy And you believe in You believe in that stuff Hmm And then so I started to go down the path And you What was it like you had the Bible You started going to church again Now I've come to it Purely through logic Oh god Yeah So that's the really interesting part about it I think that there are a lot of Very sophisticated Logical arguments For God First of all And also for Christianity as well So Like I said before I think materialism is Observed on its face Because materialism It posits that we are just material You know That we are literally just material
And there are a lot of things That you just can't explain From materialism You can't explain consciousness From materialism Right You can't explain love From materialism Or any of these things You'd have to say Well that's just like a chemical reaction That's just That's unsatisfactory for me Consciousness As much as atheists will try You can't explain consciousness The materialism That's true You can't explain out of body experiences You know So there are a lot of things That I find very convincing And also You know Christianity is Based on this And I go through my own little rabbit hole Sometimes I haven't I've probably need to run these By a natural theologian But also Christianity Is based upon the notion That love Is like a Is the governing Factor of Of our life Right Everything is sort of Run on this notion Of love In a sense Okay Jesus loves you And It's like We have to love each other As we want to be To treat each other As we want to be treated Love your neighbor Love your enemy Etc And when you really think about that
It's like If there is a God Say we can just sort of Grant the presupposition That there is a God You then have to ask yourself Well is that God a loving God Or is that God A vengeful Malicious Capricious God Well I think that logically It has to be a loving God Because if it was a Capricious God Well then Everything would be Run On the same sort of principles On hate And on fear And all these things But it doesn't seem to me As though that's the way That the world rounds It seems to me Is that the world rounds on love Like we have to love our children For them to be fruitful And multiply We have to love our neighbor We have to You know And if we do Love our enemy That's the ultimate way In which the world Like can you imagine If everybody really Truly tried to show love For their enemy Or for for gives their enemy Can you imagine How much that would change things Like I almost can't even picture that Yeah Honestly Yeah that just like That's the hardest thing You can possibly do If you've ever really
F***ing hated someone Yeah That's why when I saw Erika Kirk forgive the murder I was here I was Brought to her in my eyes Yeah I don't see that often Where people can do that Yeah And like You know I'm sure Everyone has had things That have happened to the So fucked up in their life And they think They can't be a god Because that's just too Like why would god Allow that to happen to me Why would god allow that to happen To my brother, my mom, whatever It's a strong argument man Like we have to really wrestle With those With those arguments But is the answer Malice Is the answer Revenge Because where does that get us If everything is based on a cycle Of Malice and Revenge Where will that get us Yeah Have a look at the 20th century And have a look at what the communists did And you'll see where that gets you We'll see where that gets you Agreed Do resentment and malice gets you Yeah Do you believe in some sort of form of karma I know that's not really a Christian thing But like do you believe like When you do good, you'll get good back I've always found it's an interesting Idea karma Because I think that karma is sort of
Logically makes sense to me I don't think it has to be some sort of Like a Hindu principle I think that If you're a good person If you treat people well Then that will come back to you I've never met anybody Who's honest Hardworking, diligent, caring, respectful Who doesn't have a pretty good life Unless they're incredibly unlucky But even generally those people tend to handle Hard times Pretty well As well But whenever I see people who are You know dishonest And who are just You know Trying to hurt other people And trying to step on as many heads as possible Those people don't maintain good relationships Those people don't have a very good spiritual life Those people generally tend to Go from place to place to placing And can't really stick with a friendship group Or Or something like that So The whole idea of karma to me has always made sense In like a In like a logical way Rather than a spiritual principle If that makes sense
Same here, yeah Even though I don't time myself to Hinduism I feel like karma just makes sense to me Yeah And I've noticed it in my own life And with other people too Yeah It could be my particular activating system Just picking up on it though You never know because we're so biased as humans Yeah We're constantly looking For validation on our beliefs Yeah So to be objective is a really tough thing these days Yeah man You know what I mean So many people are just going to Focus on what they already believe in Yeah Yeah I think so I mean you see that a lot these days That's why I like debates though Because debates you see both sides If you come in as a viewer with an open mind You can really learn a lot I feel like Man I could not agree more You asked me before how I got to Christianity And that was probably the main way To be honest Like I've never had any sort of a real spiritual I've had some things with prayer That have been very That have sort of like You know blown my hair back a little bit You'll be allowed But logic has been the thing That's really gotten me to this And even I think that the god of the gaps is a really good argument So the god of the gaps argument People make fun of this a lot But Um
There are so many things that we can't explain Like we were talking about before Consciousness And we could there's so many things that we just cannot explain But if you put god If you accept that there is a god that exists Then so many things So many more things just like make make sense So anyways There's that But um What was the question you got with the gods Oh it was a debate format That's right Debating So um I'm very like You know logic brain Like this So I started to look into it And just really try and have an objective look Into it and like what do I what do I believe And then just ruthlessly attack what you believe in That's the best way to do it Because if your belief can stand the test Of a ruthless attack from many angles Then you you might be onto something It's probably going to be bullshit at the end of the day They might be onto something right If you can do that to yourself though That's a really good skill to have Grace So if you can have thought and be like I believe x All right And then if you can and I do this to myself all the time
I'm into I'm going to have it now after spending Enough time with Andrew Where um I'll just be in the shower And I'll just I'll have a thought And I'll be like What do I think about this idea And then I'll start attacking it Every single different angle And trying to rip that thought apart And if it stands the test of that And I'm like okay I might be onto something here I might be able to apply this Yeah he just told me before we filmed All of my beliefs are not true Yeah Yeah Objectively Yeah well I mean philosophy is for the most part bullshit Yeah Like all these beliefs When you really think about it Came from somewhere else or someone else They're not your actual beliefs Yeah Right You didn't create these Yeah Yeah Now I got asked that the other day By Jesse Lee Peterson He goes to me Do you make your own thoughts And I was like It's like kind of like making a sandwich Well the ingredients are there And I can use the different ingredients And make myself a sandwich You might be a shit sandwich It might be a pretty tasty sandwich But I didn't actually make any of the ingredients They were I've bought them from the shop They've done studies on the Where thoughts come from And like what percentage of it Is conscious for subconscious And I believe on majority Subconscious thoughts Yeah Which people don't know where that comes from
Yeah Makes total sense Crazy right So like I think it was Close to 90% of our Thoughts are subconscious Yeah That makes total sense So we're not really in control of our thoughts At all Yeah Have you ever Like looked into some of the work And what some of the more mystical work That I've looked into Of like Kali Young And the archetypes of the unconscious mind And this sort of thing Yeah So you've Archetypes Which is And like Disney movies are based upon a lot of these archetypes Which is sort of these like Narrative structures And ideas that we just Fundamentally understand It's almost like it's written into the story Into the DNA And some of the archetypes might be The benevolent king versus the evil tyrant And you see this play out in Lion King for example This is why people love Mufasa so much Because Mufasa is a benevolent king He is a leader He's a patriarch But everyone really respects him Because he's got the best interests of the tribe in mind And he's tough You wouldn't want to fuck with Mufasa But at the same time He has a tender and gentle side as well With his son with Simba Yeah And he cares But then you've got Skar Who is the evil dictator
And Skar is very sort of narcissistic And he's very self-serving And he's he'll stab you in the back In a second And what happens to Pride Rock Pride Rock falls apart Under Skar So I think a lot of these archetypes Even the Beauty and the Beast archetype Is a super-interesting one Like um So you know the movie The Beauty and the Beast right Yeah Well the idea here is that It's the feminine Submissive sort of woman Who tames the beast And this is actually something That plays out a lot Within female attraction And it gets really dark But The curious So have you ever seen how females They love what you'd call like a Like Fairy porn Fairy porn Is that like the reading porn Yeah exactly So it's like Things like Twilight The other thing Well They did There's this book called A Billion Wicked Thoughts Right And it's basically a bunch of Google engineers They got together And they were studying The Google searches Of Of Of people And there's like a billion different Google searches And they went into the
Deepest and darkest Fantasies of women What were women searching when they went on pornographic sites And some of the main things that came up Was Vampire Werewolf Billionaire Pirate And uh Surgeon No way Yeah And so they're like What the hell Like what's going on here But then you think about it for a second What's the most popular book With females over the past 10 years Is it Is it Twilight That would be one of them for sure For females 50 Shades of Grey 50 Shades of Grey Yeah What is 50 Shades of Grey It's like this billionaire Who's like this erratic Crazy sort of character Who Who is like this This like beast to the outside world And then this timid Like beauty Comes in and she Tames him And then she gets to see a different side of him But there's another movie That's extremely popular with women Called 365 And it's an Italian mobster Who's like a mobster And a killer And this guy Goes and captures this woman
And takes her hostage For a whole entire year And the whole movie is basically the sexual tension Between them building up And do they eventually Fuck on a boat While women love this movie This woman was literally captured But this Italian mobster boss Is just like a sucker for her And then there's Twilight as well Why is she attracted to this vampire Well all goes back to this archetype And there's something about What women really like Which is the beauty and the beast archetype They like the beast Who can be Tamed and civilized But only by them So I think a lot of men Would do well to actually understand this And not to be a beast in the sense That you're like violent And erratic and everything But if you are for example Somebody who's super ambitious with your career And you're out there You're conquering the world You don't want to always be like that Around your woman You want to On a quiet Sunday morning You want to sort of let the veils Slip maybe for a second Then get up And go to go to the gym Yeah No it's a very interesting concept I think women have this deep Deep attraction to men Who are a beast in their own right But who can also be loving and gentle
But they Only they get to Almost like they've tamed the beast Right Only they see that side of them Yes Very fast And yeah Nice guys finish last Right And that's classic quote But so true Yep They're useful idiots man Do you ever heard of a Saying called Sneaky fuck a strategy No it is This is interesting So You've got And this is not me being crass This is actually a zoological term So the sneaky fuck a strategy Is basically In it with puffer fish And a few other different animals What happens is You've got the alpha and the beta sort of phenotypes Some of the fish And so the alpha phenotypes Are the ones who get all of the The females and they do all of the mating And then the beta ones Who can't compete in the masculine hierarchy What they actually do is they Is they sort of start to look like the females They'll try and actually Like disguise themselves as the females To try and bypass the male gatekeepers And get away into the crowd So that they can then get away From the alphas And then try and meet with the females When the alphas are looking And I think that this exact thing happens With female feminist nice guys
In the human race Yeah they get bypassed Well the thing is They are trying to Game the system So obviously there's a masculine hierarchy And that what at the very top of that masculine hierarchy Is guys who are big Strong, competent, liars Who are admired by other men And who are wanted by other women Well that's the yeah exactly Well for you exactly That's the sort of the hercules And then at the bottom of the hierarchy You have guys who are Little short feminine their temperament Not very ambitious A little bit useless Not very competent So you can either Spend your whole entire life trying to compete In that masculine hierarchy And trying to get to the top Or at least get get Up as high as you can Or you can be a sneaky fucker And you can grow your hair out long And you can wear the colorful tight eye shirts And you can go to the raves And you can wear pink And then you can dance with all the girls And try and deceive them Into sleeping with you In some sort of like a drunken
You know, drug stooped hares And you see a lot of these male feminists Who try and look like the women Whenever you see this guys with the long hair And who wear like the tight singlets And you know, just look very feminine In their temperament I truly think that is just a mating strategy Very well Yeah Yeah, they're playing a short-term game But I'm always about Being the best person to yourself 100% You had to play the long game Yeah, you know Especially these days And even if you do get They let you sleep with them or whatever When a woman is pregnant She's looking for a man who's about his business Right You know And she's going to lose respect for you real quick If she's depending on you For protection and for provision And you're Oh, I don't feel like going to work Today I stubbed my toe Or I just don't I want to have a mental health day or something like that Yeah Don't listen to any of that garbage Just a cycle programming that's going on there About About Becoming more feminized Because a lot of guys get sucked into that trap And this is how it happens Sure, back in the day Oh yeah man, it's brutal It's brutal I have to They get sucked into this trap
And then they become useful idiots For the feminist conditioning Like The women won't actually respect you Women will respect men who have boundaries Women who respect men Who stand for something Who are ambitious And also who can tell them no Yeah Who can tell them to shut off if they need to Yeah Be quiet But you've got to have some leverage first To get to that position Right You've got to make some money You've got to be doing some Sort of valuable gain for the relationship You've got to be a good horse for them to put their money on Right Yeah Because it's hard to have that stance when you're broke Yeah You've got no leverage at that point Yeah man Maybe your looks but that's fleeting Yeah Looks is one thing But like I said before You know It's when she's Six months pregnant And she's looking at you To hold things down Because she doesn't really want to stand up She just want to sit there with her belly in Being pregnant Which is what she should have to do Yeah Just to be chill and during that time Then you better be able to hold it down Yeah You know 100% You want kids Yeah Yeah same here Hopefully lots When I was atheist I didn't Yeah I was questioning it too I was uh Atheist for like 10 years I'd say
Really Yeah A middle school high school and a little bit after How old are you? I'm 28 28 Yeah I'm 30 Yeah I would save right before the pod Is when I started questioning stuff The similar time period to you And where are you at now? I wouldn't time myself to a religion But I'm spiritual Yeah I believe in a creator Yeah Yeah And is anything that makes sense to you And in regards to the nature of that creator? Um Well I believe in I have a weird belief actually Like I believe in things from multiple religions So I believe in reincarnation I believe in past lives Believe in a creator Karma So I kind of just Study a bunch of different religions And take what I like Do you ever find any of them logically Contradicting themselves? If I dug into it deep enough I'm sure I would But I haven't done what you've done When it comes to research Yeah And we'll hear if one of the references or anything And just let me know For sure I think Especially one of the things that is pretty Red Pilling in this regard Is looking into the resurrection Of Jesus Christ That's someone that really got me Really The fact that there's actually a lot of evidence for it
So you believe it actually happened Oh yeah Yeah That actually happened I did see articles about they found some Scar for whatever The Shroud of Turin Yeah That's crazy Yeah The Shroud of Turin is insane Like You know they thought that they debunked it I think in the 90s they got a little bit of it And they tried to carbon date it And they said oh this is from like the 15th century This is a hoax But then they realized that they had actually gotten For the wrong part Because It was burnt The place that were where it was Was burnt down a couple of hundred years ago And so they got the wrong part And then they did it again recently And they got a different part of the Shroud And it goes exactly back to the time When Jesus Was killed Wow Right And all of the And like the blood soaked Um Shroud It's like a I think it's something like a 3D negative Or something I can't remember exactly what the term for it is But basically I'm a bit retarded But it comes to this The technological stuff But basically The only way in which that could have happened Is if Is if at the moment At that very moment There was an extreme blast Like we actually couldn't recreate
The Shroud today With all of our modern technology Yeah If they had to be an extreme blast Like a massive blast To To make that And then they've done like a 40 imaging of it now They've recreated it in 40 imaging You actually see Jesus lying there It's crazy That is fascinating Yeah and there's just so many So many things like that And it's eventually after a while You just think to yourself You can keep on denying it Or you can get on your knees And you can Yes Start praying and see And see if God opens it all Yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't say a deny I would say I'm open I used to pray And I did use to see results from it But that to me I didn't know if that was God Or just manifestation You know what I mean Because I would pray when like I had stomach ache And then it would go away Well I think that manifestation has to be God Because manifestation Whenever I see people talking about manifestation I think to myself Well that you're implying that there's an order to the world Because if if manifestation is I think And then I get Or I drink it Think and I go rich These sorts of things They all do make sense But that would imply that there's order
And actually That's a presupposition That if you don't believe in God You really can't have Because atheists for example Just believe that everything is chaos Right That there is no actual structure In order to the world So if there's no structure In order to the world And we're just A cosmic accident And we come from a big bang And everything is just you know Then why would there be metaphysical Concepts That are ordered and structured Why would I be able to abstract While why would there be abstractions That can create order Abstractions aren't even real In the atheist world That would mean that there is a metaphysical reality Interesting Yeah Very interesting Where do you stand on the destiny Verse free will to be Destiny versus free will Do you believe as humans We have full free will Do you believe we are destined To like do you think You're destined to be here right now No I think that we have free will A hundred percent Yeah Like nothing's predetermined death All that We're going to die Yeah I mean we're all going to die But I don't think it's necessarily predetermined I do think I do believe in divine intervention
But I don't believe So you've got the With Christians you've got a few different Sort of Sort of ideas here And there's actually really hard to wrestle with These are very deep And interesting philosophical ideas With the Sam Harris argument That doesn't make sense Sam Harris is argument about the moral landscape Doesn't make sense Because he's basically trying to create A He's trying to create an objective morality Through atheism Right But Yeah Like It doesn't make sense Because Sam Harris Is ultimately a materialist And with a materialist You can't create Good and bad Good and evil And these sort of abstractions Because he just believes in materialism So he doesn't believe in duality He doesn't believe Yeah exactly Oh god He believes that we're just material He doesn't believe we have a soul And he sort of Like proper governing factor Yeah I believe we have a soul Yeah Definitely So his idea is that we We have no free will Because we are just chemical beings Right Just proteins and neurons etc So nothing we do Is actually us doing it So then how can you create objective morality
How can if I was to lean over And punch you in the face Well it's just my atoms It's just the chemical reaction I didn't do anything wrong According to Sam Harris But then he's trying to say that Things can be good and bad And objectively evil And it makes no sense It doesn't matter There isn't a moral landscape If you're just thinking the way he thinks It's just all chaos But with Christians it's a little bit different So you've got the Calvinist idea And what the Calvinist think Is that we don't have free will That everything is predetermined And it's a very strong philosophical argument That's very hard to actually contend with Because they believe That if God is all powerful and all knowing If they would ask you Is a Christian Do you believe that God is all powerful and all knowing Well yeah Well then he would have obviously known That you were going to sin before you sined He would have known What you were going to do before you were born So then he's actually condemned you When you were born He actually condemned you to hell And he condemned certain people to heaven We have no free will Because God is all knowing and all powerful But then
I think the other argument against that Is that actually God doesn't operate On the same sort of linear time trajectory As we do So he's not saying all right It's, you know November 2025 That's not the way that God thinks God is outside of time He's outside of space He's outside of material I've heard that argument Where time isn't linear Yeah Yeah exactly So I actually buy into that too Yeah Yeah So what time is a construct Yeah because this calendar was man-made Yeah Yeah There wasn't the same calendar they used in the past Yeah So time is a construct Like just like so many things That we know But it's an interesting debate And it's very interesting When you look at it through the Calvinists And the Orthodox Because that's a hard one to wrestle with Yeah Yeah I don't know where I stand on it Because I work so hard Like I feel like I want to believe that we have free will And like I earned everything I have in my life But I do hear this destiny argument all the time Yeah I don't think so I don't think that anyone's destined to be a child Child know Yeah Yeah So
I didn't know we'd get so filled up Well I don't know where we're going to talk politics man It's cool that you've done all this research You know your history very well I don't know this stuff Yeah this is really cool man Anything else you want to close off with your promote Just Breadle's night TV We do a lot a lot of live streams But I'm not traveling I'll do five or six times a week The extravaganza With myself and Andrew Wilson And then Rob nor a lot of the time as well as on there We do that five game easton Monday to Thursday Easton time And it's been great to meet you man I really really enjoy what you're doing here Yeah thanks for setting this up We're about to have a fun debate here now So uh Stay tuned guys Andrew Wilson versus Coach Craig Adams I look forward to doing more stuff with you in the future Yeah Have a go and check out the links guys I'll see you next time I hope you guys are enjoying the show Please don't forget to like and subscribe It helps the show a lot with the algorithm Thank you
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