Inside The OIG Interview: MCC Captain's Statement Detailing The Death Of Jeffrey Epstein (Part 13) (4/4/26)

0:00What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode we're going to pick up where we left off with the unnamed captain and his interview with the OIG investigators. Question, all right, okay? Answer, and then on the morning watch there's only two people in the unit. Question, right? Answer, so they're both complicit. Question, and I know you said bad count, officers should come down. How often should I mean a lieutenant? Should come down? How often should a lieutenant be observing the counts? Let's talk specifically about the shoe. Answer, well in the shoe, in the shoe, a lieutenant would have been monitoring that I believe that 10 South count. Question 10 South, what about like where Epstein was in regular shoe? Answer, well no, but we didn't implement that until after the Epstein incident. Question, all right. So up to August 10th, lieutenant, we're not observing counts. They were simply taking the count in the control room. Answer, that is control, that is correct.

1:04Question, okay, redacted was aware that the camera system in the shoe was down. He left early on Thursday when the discussion about the camera system would have occurred. Redacted, what is redacted first name? Answer, I can't remember his first name. Question, now is he like a CEO though, or like he gets cut off by the captain? No, he would be. He gets cut off now by the investigator, a BOP employee. Answer, he's contact. Question, contact, but a BOP employee. Answer, yes. Question, the camera technician notified redacted that he was working on the system earlier that week, but redacted did not know specifics and was not informed that the cameras were not functioning since the so you didn't know that any of the true cameras may have been out. Answer, no. Question, okay, since the and who would have been was he the one responsible for that? Answer,

2:04yes. Question, so if he's notified that the camera's now out, how soon thereafter should he get that up and running? Answer, no. If he was aware that the camera system was down and he was not working, he should have contacted me and then I would have immediately contacted the warden and the AW because that's a security situation. Question, so in this instance, he didn't do that. Answer, no. Question, all right. And would anyone else have known that the shoe camera was down? Answer, redacted. Question, redacted. And who was redacted? Answer, he would be the general foreman over facilities. Question, so those two people would have been the only ones to know that his camera is out and they should have notified you? Answer, yes. Question, and they did not. Answer, no. Question, okay. Do you know at this point? And I'm not talking about at the time, but now, do you know that was down and for how long? Answer, I don't know. Question, no, okay. Answer,

3:08I can't remember. I don't even, that's, I don't remember. Question, do you know if a camera in the shoe was ever down? Answer, yes. Question, okay, what camera? Answer, I know that there were issues with the cameras because we had done a program review before then and there was a camera down in 10 so we had to get those fixed, you know, in the individual cells. And then there was a camera system that was down because I believe they was doing some type of maintenance on the range or something like that that everyone was aware of. That's all I can remember. Question, okay. Answer, and I don't remember specifics and timeframes. Question, all right, but you don't know specifically if like, for instance, the range that Epstein was on, that camera was out or no. Answer, that, I don't know. Question, you're not sure? Answer, yeah, no. Question, okay, but again, if it was, it would have been redacted and what did you say the last name was? Answer, redacted, question.

4:13And how do you spell that last name? Answer, redacted. Question, can you say that one more time? Redacted. Question, perfect. So at this point, another investigator pipes in, I just had a quick question. Who was the conversation about the discussion? You mentioned there was a discussion when the discussion would have happened. Answer, I think that's the date of ind discernible. Question, well, no, it says Mr. Redacted, the camera technician, notified Redacted that he was working on the system earlier the week. He's saying that he left early Thursday when the discussion about the camera system would have occurred. Answer would have, so he should have known, question, if there was a conversation, but you don't know that there was? Answer, no. Question, okay, sorry. Answer, because like in closeout, or if there was something with the warden that day normally on Thursdays at times, you know, it was, I have a disease. So I would go for blood work on Thursdays when I could, if an institution emergency, you know, but normally on Thursday.

5:18I would leave early on Thursdays. I would take a half day. Question, okay, answer to go get my medical appointments. So if there was a meeting that was convened about the camera system, I wasn't present at that meeting. However, I know that a camera project was going on during that time, which Redacted was responsible for installing the new. I don't know what I can't remember what you call it, but it's a system because our system was antiquated. So they was doing camera repairs. There was certain cameras down in certain areas of the institution, but he was actively working on it. Question, okay. So if there was a meeting that you were not aware of on Thursday, who would have been present for it? Answer for a meeting with the warden. Question, it would have been with the warden answer. Yeah, it would have been, I mean, the warden would have known if someone had a meeting about the camera system being down, and then probably the facilities manager, which is redacted.

6:19It would have been the AW custody at the time, which would have been redacted. And of course, it would have been with the warden. Question didn't you say that it was actually somebody else redacted was no longer in custody? Answer redacted. Redacted was there, but she had just got there. She was over another discipline. So that would have been the meeting with the executive staff. Question, okay. So it was the executive staff meeting. Would that meeting also have taken place if the cameras are still down on Friday? Would it have taken place on Friday as well? Answer, that would have been Friday as well. Question, but you weren't involved with a meeting like that. Answer no. Question and you don't know of a meeting taking place? Answer no. Question, okay. Would it have taken place every day that the camera was down or just the first day? Answer, there would have been an update because the person that falls under that, the contract, is redacted. So the AW over facilities would have wanted an update weekly report as well as the captain. Question, okay. Answer

7:25because that's a security issue. So we would have wanted, but the camera system was down. I think it was some routine maintenance that they was doing. Question now, would any of the lieutenants or shoe staff have known that the camera was down? Answer some. I mean, they don't have the ability to monitor, but you know, of course the ones in 10 South, you know, yeah, the live monitoring. Question and do you know and don't know, though, even to this date, if a camera was in fact down, answer, I can't remember. Question, in fact, answer, I don't know. Question, okay, that's fine. I was just going to ask, even if it wasn't recording, do you know if it was like being a live monitor or anything like that? Or it could have been, but you were unaware. Answer, I'm unaware. Question, okay, okay. So after receiving the phone call from redacted on the morning of Saturday, August 10, 2019, redacted, notified associate warden redacted who informed the warden. Redacted,

8:28also attempted to call institution duty officer redacted. Answer, yeah, question to chaplain and in the building to get more information. What does that mean by in the building? Do you know, answer? So basically, you know, it was just, it was just a bunch of, you know, people that we tried to notify, I tried to notify. So I think I notified redacted. Of course, she notified the warden, I notified the IDEO. I said, hey, because in May death, they needed me coming into the institution because that's one of the off times. So they needed to be making because they're going to be responsible for making certain calls to the region. I notified the chaplain because chaplain made sure indesernable. Also, I believe I informed them to call redacted, which was the executive assistant, I think, redacted or that may have called redacted, the attorney for MCC. And I'm trying to think who else? Question? No, that's fine. And it says that he went to MCC arriving before 8am,

9:30approximately. Upon arrival, redacted, screened in and retrieved his gear from the third floor. He went to the shoe and signed the logbook. He gathered any records pertaining to Epstein, including the 30 minute round logbook and attorney conference logbook, and he won't. What are he wants? Answer. So all this stuff right here. So you basically I walk through the building. I know the protocol because what happens is these things will come up missing. Then you have no evidence. So I secured count slips. The E1s, I went to shoe. I got all the logbooks that I knew were Epstein had been. I grabbed those logbooks I went to shoe. I took his inmate shoe file from the special housing plus all of the round sheets and discernible question. This actually says he cannot locate Epstein's inmate file. Do you remember that? Answer. It was a file, but it had limited stuff in there. Question. Okay. Answer. So it was actual file. Yeah. It had his pictures had a couple things on there, but it wasn't anything

10:35in it. Question. So when this says not locate a file, you located the file. But it was empty. Answer. It was empty. And is that abnormal? Answer. No. It's not normal. Question. Oh, it's not normal. Answer. It's not normal. No. Question. And do you think that somebody removed things from it? Answer. No. I'm not going to make that accusation. I don't know. I would just say that that's not a normal instant. That being working as a former OIC, being a correctional officer and all that stuff, that's not normal. Question. What stuff is usually in there? Answer. I can tell you. It would be all of his intake screening stuff that we do on the inmates, the expectations, the sell assignment, things that the inmate is supposed to sign, the clothing issue forms. It would be 292s in there. It would be the SROs. It would be the psychology where psychology comes to see the guys that those notes should be placed in there. Question. And none of that was in there. Answer.

11:40None of that was in there. All right, folks, we're going to wrap up right here. And in the next episode, dealing with the topic, we're going to pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.