INDIANAPOLIS COLTS: Talking NFL Draft Crushes, Sleepers (w/ Ian Cummings)

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1:00a registered investment advisor. Brokerage Services provided by Fidelity Brokerage Services LLC, member NYSC and SIPC. DeAngelo Ponds and Jacob Rodriguez are draft crushes that we just can't give up this draft season. Let's get to it. You are Lockdown Colts, your daily Indianapolis Colts Podcast. Part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team, every day. Welcome to Lockdown Colts. I am Zach Hicks, your regular co-host here on today's show. And today I'm joined by Ian Cummings, the best draft nerd over at Pro Football Network. He does a fantastic job over there and make sure you check in out all of his work, each and every draft season. Today though, I brought Ian on for I think like the fourth or fifth time in a row from draft seasons that I've had him on here on this show. And we're going to go through some draft crushes, some draft sleepers, and really break it all down.

2:01So we're going to start off today's show with those draft crushes on defense, go to draft crushes on offense, and then close it out with those deep sleepers that you guys are looking for. So Ian, I'm going to open the floor to you to start off today's show with some draft crushes. And you know what, we'll go with some of those guys that I just threw in the intro there. Jacob Rodriguez though, like that is a linebacker that I think Colts fans have been going crazy about. And here in Indy, we need a green dot here. We don't have a green dot linebacker. Rodriguez seems like the perfect fit for any team looking for that kind of guy, right? Oh, yeah, for sure. And he's one that I've kind of warmed up to. And first of all, it's great to be that great to be talking with drafts with you again. But yeah, he's a great player and one that I've kind of warmed up to throughout the process. I liked him in, you know, heading into the pre draft process, the early January February months, right? But you watch more of the film. And I know a big concern for a lot of people was, how is it going to test? How is it going to look athletically against these guys? Because 61230 sub 31 inch arms, right? At that size profile, you have to have a certain floor of athleticism, right?

3:01I mean, I think he quelled any concerns at the NFL combine running a four five seven, I think 38 inch vertical six nine three cone. And to me, it shows up on the film, not just the range, but particularly the short area agility and the fluidity. I think changing direction, he's so fluid and malleable on his breaks. He's so quick, he's got that quick twist where you can suddenly recalibrate his base and plant and drive over top assignments, either in coverage or just, you know, triggering down hill against the wrong suit, right? And I know that short armed frame, I think it does affect them a little bit sometimes as far as getting off blocks, right? Fully stacking and being able to control the point, but the motor, the energy, the urgency and the elite processing. I think all of those things help him play a step ahead with the right angle and that helps him stay in context situations too. So the production backs it up, I think the size is always going to be something that he's working to combat a little bit at the NFL level. But again, whenever you have a prospect who has this type of outlier trait, you got to see if they have the tools to counteract it. I think you look at combined athleticism, the fluidity and the elite football IQ and instincts with Jacob Rodriguez and also the ability to play beyond his size with power output, you know, kind of crashing downhill.

4:07I think he has all those things. He sold me at the Senior Bowl when I'm watching play one on one and a team drills and coverage. I think he was so, so sound with his depth discipline, but then also having the mobility to match guys and redirect in short order, but then you watch the film. It's just as good. So top 50 guy for me, easy draft crush, and I think anyone who gets them, like you said, getting green dot, getting them like. Yeah, no, for sure. He was so vital with that Texas Tech defense last year where they were an attack mode 24 seven on that defense, right? They were in your face all the time and the reason why they were able to do that is because they had the perfect cleanup man behind them at all times, right? You could unleash David Bailey, you could unleash Romello height and Lee Hunter and all these other guys when you have the perfect cleanup guy behind him, a guy who doesn't miss tackles a guy who is just smart and savvy and at where he needs to be. And also forces a ton of turnovers, which kind of leads to our next guy here, right? I think Angela Ponds, another guy you mentioned, I think everyone in Indiana is also crushing on this player as well because he was just so phenomenal for Indiana last year on their championship run.

5:08But I mean, he's small and he has got that outlier size, but it's hard not to love what you see on film, right? Oh, yeah, for sure. And this is a little bit of a spoiler too, but I was kind of compiling my sleepers list. And I think I had like five Indiana defenders on that list. Like eight and Vischer, such a big fan of him. I think if you're looking for a green dot, not quite as athletic as Jacob Rodriguez, but another guy who fits that mold, Lewis Moore and Devon Boykin on the back end to really good football players too. So this entire defense has dudes, but the Angela Ponds is the dude among dudes. I think, you know, the size is going to be so tricky for people because five nine, you know, I think he measured in closer to 180 at the NFL combine. He was playing some people were thinking he was playing around 170. So, but either way, below average height, weight, length, he's a size outlier. We can't skirt around that, right? But I think the film is so, so clean and literally almost every single area that you could quantify. You know, you look at coverage. I think he's definitely a little bit more predisposed off man in zone, particularly in zone coverage. I think he's so good with spatial reasoning and, you know, managing route relationships to one one's the fluidity, the ability to match and redirect and then also close ground off plant drives.

6:16I think he ran like a 10 48 100 meter dash in high school. So you know the long speed is there for 43 and a half inch vertical. You know the explosion is there and that shows up on film. But then the fluidity too. I mean, he's not a straight line athlete. Like you would expect for a guy who's five nine. He sinks his hips really well. I think he's really malleable and flexible and breaks. And then the ability to swivel and readjust his hip alignment as routes fluctuate in real time and then plant drive with no fat on his transitions. He's one of the cleanest CB prospects that I evaluated. And then you look at the catch point too. I mean for a guy who has the size working against him. I think he's really good at using targeted physicality to get a lever on guys and make precise plays the catch point. There were a few times for guys who were bigger got the best of them. Jeremiah Smith is the key example in the big time championship. But the angel ponds came right back and ended up putting the clamps on him later in the game when they needed to in the red zone. Right. So he's a guy who never backs down. He's got that dog in him for sure. But then you look at the run support too. He's a very consistent tackler. I think he engages blocks pretty well too. So there are going to be times in the NFL where a bigger receiver a bigger stronger guy might get the edge on him and get the handle on him and drive him out of place.

7:23But by and large. I think you're looking at a guy who plays beyond his size and his skill set. And then it's just so clean from a technical aspect while also having the athletic and the fluidity components that you need to be an elite coverage defender in a elite volume too. So such a big fan. He's actually I forget where he is on my board right now. I think he's a top 20 player on my board personally. So I'm very, very high on him. But I expect him to be a very good bro. Yeah, I think you you named two guys that I think are certainly big sleepers for not sleepers with big crushes for me. Rodriguez. I remember early in the process when people were having him as like a day three pick. I was like, man, he would have to run as slow as me in the 40 for him to be a three pick. Like he just does everything at a high level and insane with ponds where it's like, yes, I know he's an outlier. But like tell me you're watching that Miami game that that championship game where he's dislodging man from ball by getting his hand in there and using a shoulder to to disrupt at the catch point. He's running down guys. You saw the explosion throughout the playoffs. Honestly, his best football was in the playoffs. He's playing some outstanding ball. I don't know how anyone could not love these two players. So I think you picked two outstanding crushes there.

8:30I want to throw in one of my crushes just real quick. And then you can round us out with maybe another one here. But I'm I've been so in on Josiah Trotter from Missouri all draft process. I know there are some limitations there. Right. The coverage is not where he wanted to be currently. But just the way that he defends the run at his age at such a young age where he's he's fluid. He's nimble. He's got that ankle flexibility that you're looking forward to not only dislodge. Uh, you know, lineman who who attack him at the second level and get off those blocks, but also to go around those blocks also to make just tight moves. As a pass rusher, you see some good moments from him as well. I don't want to go too long because cold fans heard me talk about Josiah Trotter a lot. But he has been a guy for me since day one of the draft process where I've been like, look, it's going to take some time with him. But you get such an attacking linebacker here. He's not a green dot. You know, he's not a Jacob Rodriguez, right? It's a very different type of linebacker. But I can just unleash this guy and let him attack at all phases. And you get a really fun player who's also very young as well.

9:32It's a clear flavor thing with him. Right. Like you know, you're getting some tradeoffs with coverage. And that's okay. Okay. If you're looking for an attacking sandbacker who can stack and shed and play the point with so much physicality and, you know, proper engagement technique too. I mean, his ability to attack inside the torso, extend and decouple from blocks and weaving through congestion. Like you said, playing with that confidence and that angle IQ. There are guys in this class who are bigger, like a Jake Golday, you know, who's rang you, who's got the size. And I do like him a lot as a prospect. But I think Josiah Trotter, when you look at, you know, the precise technique and the precisely engaged. And, and maximize physicality that he plays with the point. All of those things kind of put him a echelon above as a run defender, right. And run defense. We're seeing it with the too high evolution, you know, teams getting heavier in the trenches. You got to be able to bring bring the boom downhill and not just play with the physicality, but also play angle sound. You know, confident, fast flowing, not late to your landmarks because you can get sealed out really quickly. And I think Josiah Trotter, you hit the nail in the head with that. I think he's one of the best in that specific mold.

10:33And it's a, it's a type of mold that's becoming more valuable, I think. Yeah, no running chase linebackers becoming so valuable nowadays, having that guy you can play will who can also, you know, also play Sam, because you're not just going to only play will at the next level, because offense is will motion. They'll motion to the power side, unless you're constantly moving on defense, you're going to have your will having to fit some run gaps here and there. So I think when you have a player with his speed, his explosion, his ability to take on blocks, but also run back side with great angles. Yeah, yes, he's limited, but he's awesome to me. I just have so much fun with his film. But that's what we have here on defense on defense so far, guys, do you want to run through a couple names to that you had here, and we have to get to our second segment, but you have a couple more names you just want to run through really quick. Yeah, defensively, I got I got to choose a few of my favorites here, trading, trading stokes from Arizona is a player that I absolutely love. He's going to be older. He's got a medical history, but he can play corner and nickel safety. The ultimate flex guy with explosive miss with, you know, really good football intelligence and zone coverage as far as managing route relationships, plays physical and support, and he's a playmaker at the catch.

11:37So I'd say trading stokes. I'll try and get an edge in here. Two guys that I really like Joshua Joseph from Tennessee and gave a kiss from Illinois. Two guys differing molds for sure. Joshua Joseph's is six three under 240. So he wanted to bulk up a little bit over 34 charms. That's a really good kind of combination. And he's explosive. I think he's got pretty good ankle flexion. The hit flexibility can be a little bit hit or miss, but when he's able to roll his hips through the apex, he can corner and accelerate. And he's got those flashes of past rush execution and power production that really make you believe in his future gave a kiss. Meanwhile, very workman like player who I think it slept on a little bit with his explosiveness. I don't think he's quite the freak that some of these other guys are, but I think he's good enough in that department. And he's got a really strong, thick center of gravity, really good leverage acquisition, able to align his base and run defense and stack and kind of compress the point. But then as a past rusher to having the raw power element able to stack counters. I think he's been productive for such a long time that we take it for granted almost, but I think in a class where you have kind of a drop off after the top tier of edge rushers.

12:39I can see him filling in the top 50 and being a really good starter. Yeah, no, for sure. Excellent, excellent bit of knowledge there dropped by Ian Cummings over a profile ball net. We're coming up guys. We're going to talk about offense though. Some of our crushes on the offense side of the ball. I'm sure I'll dive into some of the offensive linemen, but Ian will round us out with a couple of other draft crushes on that side of the football. But first, what if sports were traded like markets now you can put your sports IQ to work in real time with Robin Hood prediction markets. It's not just you against the house. It's you participating in a live market. You can buy or sell your positions live all game long. Use your sports knowledge in the moments that matter Robin Hood prediction markets changes the game. It's people moving the action. So in momentum shifts, you can move with it. I always knew the game but never had the dynamic way to apply that knowledge. But now I can actually take part live in a market powered by the people. You're no longer just a spectator play by play you decide trade every play with Robin Hood now available across the US.

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14:43I've struggled with the quarterback class a little bit. I'm going to throw out a name. This was a name that I was observing for the sleepers segment. But I think I think I think this QB class is kind of devoid enough that we can we can we can bend some rules here. Jack Strand from MSU Morehead. I'm a big fan of the upside gamble on day three. I think it was a Harlan Hill finalist this past year very productive player at the division three level for the dragons and the physical tools pop on the film. Very difficult. There's an implicit bias when you're watching an FCS or division two three guy because you're worried about how those traits are going to acclimate at a higher level. But I look at him and Colpate inside by side and Colpate and we we talk about his tools a lot. I think Jack Strand is right up there with him in terms of arm strength velocity. The arm angles on this guy are insane. He can he can go side arm. He can go you know any angle that you need off platform to from a variety of different looks. The mobile player to six four two forty three. I think it a 35 inch vertical and a 10 one or 10 to broad jump it is pro day and that shows up on film. He's explosive.

15:44He's got the ability to roll out of food actions. And then at the same time to that layering ability that comes from that arm tail and army elasticity is very much there with him. Over top scene defenders. I think as a processor there's still room for him to get a little bit more consistent as far as you know anticipating defender positioning over top breaks. Sometimes he tries to you know undercut a guy and they can they can get him on that. So you want him to I think I think the acclimation period to the NFL is going to be a little bit steeper for him. So I wouldn't expect him to take any reps right away right. But I think as far as a quarterback who has all the physical tools that you want him mold and has the experiences of starter albeit at division three level. I think that's helped him with depth discipline in the pocket being able to play tough and composed right but then also being to operate off script and keep his eyes up without deferring to his running ability. He's a really intriguing player. I think he gets slept on a lot. I think in this QB class with how many guys have so many you know so many trade offs where you're not so sure about investing in that. Jack Strands and me as a guy who has the combined experience in the athletic and physical talent that I would want to bank on day three. So I like him a lot.

16:49I think that's the right range to get him and I think you stash him and let him work. I think he could become something down the line. It kind of reminds me of the way you described in there like when Tyson Baygent fell through the cracks a couple years ago right out of I think shepherd. I believe his word was completely fell through the cracks with an undrafted for agent. Now he's been one of the better backups in the league the last couple years with the Chicago bear. So that's a great analysis there. I'll have to find some of that film. I don't know where you found that film in but I'm going to find some. I got in touch with Jack and he put me in touch with this QB coach who is a nice. So yeah it's it's tough you got you got to you know talk to people but it's once you get it. There's and there's some ups and downs on there for sure but like I said the talent pops and everything that you hear about him is that he's a hard worker that he has what you need from a mental standpoint. So I'm excited to see what he does. Awesome. So let's go to wide receivers now because you know we could go through running back and tight end but I feel like the colds mostly are pretty good at those positions. Is there a receiver that really stands out to you as like this big time crush we're like okay I think this guy has got the goods for the NFL.

17:50There's a couple guys kind of within that slot mold and then I'll save my sleeper for a bigger receiver who I like on day three. Tyler Bell and Antonio Williams are the two within that slot mold that I'm a big fan of I think Antonio Williams you know there's a little bit of fatigue with him. It seemed when his production didn't quite line up with what we were expecting when the Clemson offense took a dive. But you turn on the tape man and I I think he's such a complete three level player I think is a route runner you look at the agility and the hip fluidity the ability to cut really acute angles on his brakes and you know the hyper elite. You know short area quickness and the cylindrical twitch where he can realign his feet in his base so effortlessly and then at the NFL combine I think running in the four fours I think that was that surprised a lot of people too. I didn't I don't see that top gear on film right I don't think anyone will say that but I do think we kind of over maybe over kind of what's where I'm trying to penalize them a little bit too much for that sometimes it just goes away from you. I think we penalize them a little bit too much for that he's got enough burst he's got enough quickness and again the route nuance is just you know so so compelling because he can take reps outside too he's showing that he can be pressed a little bit you know he's showing he can play inside you can utilize him off motions and get him.

18:58Scheme touches his rack threat with his fluidity in his burst and then at the catchpoint to I think he's fairly good at being proactive and working back to the ball for a smaller guy too. I like it in Tony Williams a lot I think he's going to be great players that movement Z and it's got about is another one six foot I think around high 180s I think he ran he jumped over 40 inches in the vert he's got that explosion for sure and he's got really good speed as well. I think the drops were an issue earlier in his career but to his credit I think he improved that 2025 I think you saw a guy who was a little bit more consistent converting at the catchpoint gathering passes in stride without taking any extra steps or jumps or losing any of that you know cohesion and then as a route runner. I think he's got the ability to stack really quick transitions on double moves you can stem guys up field and then divert inside a post and slants and then he's got the quickness to supplement a full release package to so I'm a big fan of scouting about obviously you know had some warts earlier in his career and the focus drops are going to be an issue from time to time but again another guy who fits that movement Z profile where you can put him anywhere just let him go to work and I think he's got the athletic and mental and tangible components to get it done so two guys who are I think in the top.

20:05I think in top 50 both on my board and I think you put him in an offense one of those some of those guys who can kind of be a glue guy for a receiver rotation put him anywhere utilize him in a variety of different ways and they can help you produce. I love the Skyler Bell shout out he is so fluid on film and just so smooth and I know like we have to get into the mindset sometimes where it's like yeah smaller guys are going to look fluid right because they're smaller guys. But you see this level where he just moves at this like different speed sometimes in other players especially with some of the teams that you can play against this past year just effortlessly gliding past players on the vertical plane especially on these like deep post where he is creating that separation not just at the line of scrimmage but at that third level you know he's creating more and more separation big big fan of Skyler Bell I think he's got the goods I think you can separate I think you can route run some really really good stuff on his film so I love that shout out there. I'm going to do a couple of offensive linemen here I'm going to throw out a couple and then you can speedrun through some as well chase bassantus from Texas and that's a good shout right there has just been my guy.

21:08I love that he is so good man like yes I want to see him get a little bit stronger at the next level I think there are still some areas where he can improve in that regard but such a clean pass protector just a really good pulling out in space he's got so many things in his toolbox as well in terms of how he counters players like again they're going to roll rush him if they're going to play. We'll rush him if they're going to put try to push pull him or whatever he's got that snatch and trap in his game right to get him on the ground if they want to use speed rush he'll run him out the outside of the pocket he's got good feet to open up that space for his quarterback to scramble just such a powerful player like in terms of like his grip strength and how he protects against the past and I think there is a lot of growth potential in the run game as well so chase bassantus has been a big one for me and then Blake Miller I'd say from Clemson as well at offensive tackle it's just in this offensive tackle class you get a lot of guys who it's like. They don't meet this threshold they there's concerns here they haven't done this they haven't done that Blake Miller started for like four years at Clemson 53 games yeah 53 games he's super athletic he smooth yeah he's got all the things you want in past protection sometimes the anchor gets tested a little bit but aside from that I think this is like an NFL ready offense attack or you can plug him in there day one and he just knows what he's doing you know like he can just he can be that guy for you.

22:26So Blake Miller and chase bassantus are probably my two guys on like that day two range I mean Miller might go day one with with how this class is and I'd be fine with that so those are probably my two offensive lineman crushes do you do you have any want to throw in real quick yeah for sure and real quick as well bassantus is my 31st overall player some massive fan he's one of my favorite watches I think he's very athletic and flexible too with his hands and that's another thing that I really love Blake Miller I would not be surprised and we're going to see a lot of mocks where he sneaks into round two I I would not be I can't do that. I believe he will go round one that's my hot take right now because again he's started 53 games he's got the athleticism he's got 34 charms I mean the experience athleticism we're kind of checking all the boxes the NFL teams love from guys and then you see him pull in space and get to the second level I think wide zone teams in particular if you really intrigued by that so I too very good players all throwing a couple for for myself as well guys that I'm a big fan of Caleb Tiernan from Northwestern is a guy that I like a lot and I did not expect to because it's a very big fan of Caleb Tiernan from Northwestern is a guy that I like a lot and I did not expect to because it's a very

23:26unorthodox build you know it's six foot eight you know I think around 315 sub 33 inch arms right so right right away I'm worried about the leverage profile and then the the sub part proportional length right how is that going to manifest on the field but I actually enjoy this tape a lot I think you're a guy who is explosive who's definitely athletic for that size and I think he's flexible enough to align his base properly and acquire leverage and pass protection you're looking at a guy who can play square to rushers and kind of oscillate his alignment in this tempo and then you're looking at a guy who can play square to rushers and kind of oscillate his alignment in this tempo and then you He used really precise targeted hands and upper lower synergy to gather and redirect. And then in the run game too, he's a physical finisher who again knows how to activate his lower body to sustain power exertions and and sledge guys out of gaps and he can get out in space and finish against defensive backs and linebackers. I'm such a big fan. I don't know if he's going to play a tackle or guard. I don't know how teams are going to view that with the arm length. I know being six foot eight leverage acquisition can be a concern, but I don't I think he counter acts on film with his flexibility, with his ability to align himself properly.

24:27I think that's going to be such a big room for him in the next level. So I really like Caleb Tiernan. He's a fun player. Fibachi no waewu from Oklahoma is another player that I like a lot. Not quite the athlete that some of these these other guys are, but he was the Burlesworth award winner this past year for walk on in North Texas who compiled a really really impressive career in Oklahoma this past year. He started most of the year at guard and then transitioned to center when an injury forced it late in the year and put on some really good tape against Alabama. He was playing very, very high level football. You're looking at a guy who's in his third game at center and he's calling out Blitzes and stunts and he's and he's maintaining discipline and he's playing swear. He's got such a strong anchor, sturdy anchor and really powerful hands as well. And I think he has enough gap to gap range to go like from the B gap to the opposite A gap right. I think he's got enough. He's not going to be the most rangel player working the second level, but he is a player who at least has that short range lateral mobility that you want. And he's just so technically sound and so well leveraged. I think he's six, four, three, twenty, thirty four charms. So that profile really lends well in tight spaces in a phone booth.

25:31So I projected more as a center. I really like the football IQ and awareness. I think that's something that you can weaponize there along with the strong anchor to kind of preserve that pocket space for the QB to step up. I think that's going to be a really big boost for him too. So I like know why I think people he doesn't get talked about a lot, but I think his film is really solid. I think the versatility right away, you know, you're getting a really, really solid depth player. But I think he's got starting ability for sure. This office of one class, so fun, we could go down the board, but those two stand out to me. Yeah. I know Caleb Tiernan. I love him because I always identify the Howard mud tackle in every class. The guy who can win ugly, the shorter arm big guy, the Caleb McGarry types, you know, that's what Tiernan is to me. So I really love him. And we're actually going to start the next segment talking more about Fibachi Noahu from Oklahoma, because I think he is a very intriguing player as well. So we'll talk about him to start off our sleepers and then go into some more sleepers from there to close out today's show. But first guys, this time of year where all you want is something warm, easy, and satisfying. That's why Home Chef is become my go to all the time.

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27:36the free dessert. One ice coffee 99 cents please. For real? No way. Mmm. Mmm. One ice coffee 99 cents please. For real? No way. Mmm. What a deal. Your new morning groove ice coffee from McDonald's any size for just 99 cents to 11 a.m. Pricing participation may vary. Can I be combined with any other offer? Alrighty locked on colds every day as we're back for a final time with Ian Cummings of Pro Football Network, our draft nerd we bring on every single draft season at least once we try to get a little bit more, but at least once on here and you left us with Oklahoma and to your offensive lineman for Bet you know, and I won't go too long on him because I know offensive lineman aren't super sexy for the sleeper picks, but when it comes to day three, offensive lineman, I just love versatile players. I love players who show me that you can play multiple positions right show me that you

28:39can play center show me that you can play guard show me that you can play tackle like Trey Zoon is another one I really like from text saying it right where mid game he's switching between left tackle and center, which is the goofiest thing I've ever seen, but I respect it so much. I just think you make yourself so much more valuable to NFL teams doing that. No, while it was a guy who when I was watching him, he didn't make my like my super high, like my top 10 onto your offensive lineman list, but like certainly a guy that I'm circling on day three words, like I need a prime backup. I need a guy who's smart like you said, who can shift inside, who's got this mauling mentality as well, can operate well in a phone booth, like I really like that shout out. So we're getting to like round four range, you know, and he's still on the board, like, and I just want to solidify my interior offensive line, like that's a guy that I'm circling for a lot of teams, and maybe if I don't want, maybe if I want to run like a lot of outside zone run stuff, like it's not perfect there, but you know, if you want to run a lot of inside zone duo and really attack the middle of the field, I think he's such an ideal interior,

29:41like backup guy who could also maybe give you some start to the center if you need it. Yeah, for sure, and I think that was the one thing that showed up to me is like in those schemes where you have to impose physically in tight spaces, that's really where you thrive, right? Getting out in space, I don't think the hips are the most flexible. I don't think it's the most rangey, and I think the testing confirmed that. I think you ran like a four five two something, not definitely not a four 40, a five two something, maybe five three. So like, you know, you're getting a guy who maxes out in space, but you know, in a phone booth in tight spaces where he can, you know, contribute to duo and combo blocks or just kind of sledge his guy and seal up and gaps, like he is so strong in his lower body, but then he's got the 34 inch arms where he can fully extend and really exert a lot of force at contact to. So a really fun player who has that combined ability to match up physically, but then also has the smarts in the angle at you where you know he's going to fulfill his assignment, he's going to do his job, and you can do it from multiple spots too. This class is really strong with those versatile players on day three. I know Trey Zoon is one Carver Willis from Washington is the one who played mostly tackle at the

30:44collegiate level, but I know he was taking reps at Garden Center at the Senior Bowl too, and I think he projects well there. So you could go down the line, but this class has a lot of those guys, those tackle the guard, tackle the center projections, who can fill out your death chart, and if they need to play in a pinch, you know, they probably can. Yeah, Logan Taylor from Boston College as well, he started games at right tackle, left tackle, right guard, and left guard in his college career at six foot seven, like 320 pounds. They're impressive. So yeah, I just love those profiles so much, we're offence of linemen, fill multiple roles for me, wear multiple hats, and I can make it work on day three, but talking day three, talking sleepers, guys that are not getting enough buzz, Ian, don't like, again, if you want to go back to, you know, wherever that quarterback was, again, like you can go as low level as you want to give us these sleepers, who are some guys that really popped off for you that you're like, hey, we should be talking about this guy a little bit more. Dude, we want to start with offense or defense or just anything. And just do whatever floats your boat, man, wherever you want to roll here. Okay, cool. Going down my sleepers list, I'll go back to the receiver that I mentioned. He's a powerful guy, but Caleb Douglas from Texas Tech is one that I

31:47think could be a really good player in time. I think he really needs to clean up his hands, drops or a major major issue for him, and we saw the senior ball, but the reason I'm bringing him up, he is six three, he's, I think he's around 200, and he ran a four three nine 40 at the end of a combo and 10 six broad jump. And on film, I think you see really, really impressive flexibility in hip sync that you don't see with a lot of bigger guys. I think as a route runner, he is truly, you know, we talk about work in progress, but I think he is currently in progress. I think you've got, you see a guy who is slowly expanding his route tree at the senior ball. He had a few nice reps against press coverage using his lateral agility and his physicality to kind of decouple the prior field. And then at the same time too, he's a really freaking good blocker too. So when I'm looking at a day three guy who's a really good investment for a team that needs a little bit more size and speed in the receiving core, but also has the building blocks to grow as a separator and a route runner. Caleb Douglas is one I'm circling, even though he doesn't have the highest grade for me, he is a player who has the hip flexibility, the bend, the ability to, you know, cut tie to angles and

32:50you know, reduce a little bit and not lose any acceleration through transitions. Well being a guy who's six foot three, that can be really difficult. So when I see a guy who has that component and he's a really good blocker. So you know, you can put him out there on early downs at least. And he's at the vertical speed. I do take note of that. So I like Caleb Douglas, another receiver that will bring up. This one's a little bit under underneath the beat path for sure. Max Tom's act from Youngstown State, 511, 193, 6.683 cone at his pro day, 4 5 40 yard dash. So the athletic numbers, they match up for the most part again, not a burner for his size, but really agile and fleet-footed with a certain innate quickness to his game. And that shows up on the film. You know, it's kind of like Salabelle where you can see his quickness in a short area. It gets a DB to just kind of erode a little bit, you know, whether he's playing square to you, whether he's getting offset. I think Tom's act is so good at weaponizing that quickness to get a DB to overstep just a little bit and then break inside and he can cut really tight angles on his route breaks. I think he's pretty good at working his way back to the football. I think he had an over 11% catch rate over

33:53expectation this past year and a minuscule drop rate as well. So you're working with a guy who's really consistent at the catch point for his size. As a rack threat, again, he doesn't have that game breaking speed and he doesn't have much contact balance either. So I don't think you're getting a ton of run after catch, but a natural separator who's reliable at the catch point and has the agility numbers and the metrics to kind of back up that profile. I think Max Tom's act is guy that we can start talking about more down the stretch. And I don't know if he's drafted, but if he doesn't get drafted, that's a PFA that I'm circling, calling right away saying get him in the receiver room and see what he can work out. So on the offensive side, those are a couple. I'll do my tight ends and my offensive linemen and then I'll go back to you. But tight ends, I think down Bentley, Matthew Hibner, Nate Borkertcher, or three that I like a lot, down Bentley from Utah, around six, three, two, six, the compact frame, really good play strength and is a very physical dutiful blocker as you expect from that Utah offense. But I think as a route runner too, he's pretty underrated. He's shown that he can cut tight angles on in-breakers. He's shown that he can stun guys up and redirect quickly. And then he's got pretty good hands at the catch point. He's

34:56not the longest guy. So I don't think he quite has the catch radius that other players do. There are times when focus drops can be an issue with safety's crashing down toward him. But I think by and large when he's in space and he's got the ability to separate, he's shown that he can make plays at the catch point and then he's got that forward churning rack ability as well in space too. So just a really complete three down two phase tight end. And I would throw Matthew Hibner kind of in that conversation. I think Hibner has a little bit more room to keep refining his game as a separator. There are times where there's a little too much fat on his plant and dry footwork as a route runner. But as a guy who's like six four two fifty one, I was really, really impressed with this film. And he was one of the guys. You could make an argument. He was the best tight end of the scene of both. And not a lot of people knew who he was. You know, he was kind of coming into the fold as kind of a sleeper, but was showing really good STEM IQ and vertical ability up seams and one on ones and team drills. And then you turn on the film too. I think he's a really good blocker. I think that part of his game gets undersold on 84 past blocking reps this past year, only a 2.4 percent pressure percentage allowed. And then in the run game too,

35:58he's showing that he can play in line and use his hand power to dislodge guys. He's shown that you can get out in space too. So Matthew Hibner to me, you know, he's a guy who's still coming into his own a little bit. And I think the SMU offense with Kevin Jennings, they played off script, off schedule, so often that production was sometimes a little bit hard to come by, you know, being a true target funnel. So I think for that reason, you had a little bit of a negative externality of production. I think we could see Hibner. If he gets into the right role, I think produce earlier than people expect. So I like him a lot as a two-faced tight end. And then bore creature is pretty simple. It's the Jackson Haas, right? You know, he's not a very productive receiver. He never was the collegiate level. But I do think he's one of the best blocking tight ends in the class. When you talk about explosive athleticism, being able to unleash power at the point and play angle sound and acquire leverage and load his base and unleash all of that, you know, upper lower power. He's one of the best he can play in line, again, he can play out in space, because he's got the athleticism to do that too. And there is some receiving upside to on Earth. I think the hands can be a little bit more consistent, but the hip fluidity in the bend is there.

36:59So a player who, again, on day three, if you need a guy to play in one, two, one, three personnel sets, bore creature to me is a guy to circle. So I've been talking a lot. So I'll pass it back. But receivers, tight ends, those are some of the top guys for me. Oh, actually, I forgot. One more receiver that I need to mention. Kevin Coleman, Kevin Coleman Jr. from Missouri. He's another one who I think is very slept on. Was one of the best guys at the sceneable as far as separating independently. In spite of the Missouri offense, that again, we talked about the SMU effect with Jennings. I think, you know, Bo Privilego, there was some inconsistency at QB there watching that film. And yet Kevin Coleman, Jr. produced 2.55 yards for Routron, sub 5% drop rate. I think over 10% catch rate over expectation as well. So a player who is very reliable with the targets that he was given. And then you look at the film again, quickness, hip fluidity, he can separate, he can, he can cut tight angles. I do think, you know, he's shorter arm, he's a little bit lighter, and he doesn't have great vertical speed. So I do think he's probably going to be limited to a slot-only role at the next level. But in that role, I like Kevin Coleman Jr. a lot. I think on day three, if you get him in

38:02that, in that confined scheme, I think you can really do great things. Yeah, absolutely. It's not a lot of great information there for all you guys looking for sleepers, looking for day three guys to fill out your mock drafts. And I know that Jake Arthur, my co-host on here, is going to be pumped that you mentioned Bo Critcher on here because that's been his guy throughout this and higher draft draft process. We would love to go into more with you here, Ian. But we are running short on time today, maybe next week or maybe a week after we get you back on here, because look guys, Ian is a wealth of knowledge. Leave a like on this video or, you know, comment whatever you want and let Ian know how much you appreciate his information on today's episode. That's all we have for today, guys, though. So thank you for tuning in to Locked On Colts back yet again tomorrow. So make sure you subscribe and follow Locked On Colts so you get all the latest episodes. And if you don't already, make sure you're following at Locked On Colts, at Jake Arthur, at Zach Hicks, too. And of course, at IC underscore draft on socials as well. And if you don't ever miss an episode, make sure you check out the everyday club. It is built for you. Get ad free plus members only discord access and much more head to Locked On Colts.Supercast.com

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