How much money did DOGE even save the US Government?

It’s been more than four months since Elon Musk stepped back from the Trump White House and his duties helming the Department of Government Efficiency.

But Musk’s chainsaw to federal spending is being acutely felt, amid a U.S. government shutdown that’s giving the Trump administration sway to once again slash critical jobs.

Host Caryn Ceolin speaks to Jacob Silverman, author and host of the CBC podcast ‘The Making of Musk: Understood’ about Musk’s lasting influence post-DOGE, and his greater impact on not just the halls of power in Washington, but around the world.

Learn more about Jacob's new podcast below:

What explains Elon Musk? Could his most outlandish ambitions and most toxic qualities trace back to his youth in Apartheid South Africa The Making of Musk: Understood explores his seemingly insatiable drive for dominance, which connects everything from his birthrate obsession (and fourteen children) to his fixation with colonizing Mars.

This four-part series, hosted by Jacob Silverman, reveals a little known side of the polarizing billionaire. Silverman tells the vital beginnings of this story — because the Elon era is far from over.

Listen now here: https://link.mgln.ai/TBSxMoM

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