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How Much Legend Bey Will We See Against Texas - Live In Austin, Pt. 4

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In the fourth installment of Thursday night's live show from Austin, Juck, Tom, and Tony discuss Legend Bey's role in Saturday's game against Texas. Will he be back at kick returner? If so, what does that say about the staff's confidence in his decision making? Can he be more of a decoy this week now that Texas knows what he's capable of? How much does he need to be on the field. Will he have more than the 10 snaps he got last week? The fellas talk about all of this and also answer a question about how the Buckeyes plan to handle the heat on Saturday.

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How Much Legend Bey Will We See Against Texas - Live In Austin, Pt. 4

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Perfect for our return. So we tried to think, thoughts on seeing Bay in the backfield with either of the jacksons repeatedly. So presumably like a 21 formation, 22 formation, something like that. Legend Bay with, well, Legend Bay with Jacobi. You know, I think there's a decent policy. Do you remember the Shotgun formation where you'd have Ted Ginn in the backfield and he was like even with the quarterback, but kind of outfiled like behind the tight end and something like that.

I could see doing something like that with Legend Bay where he's off the line of scrimmage so you can't necessarily like jam them. But he's also sort of in a weird spot where it's like, okay, what do they can do with him? And you can run across the quarterback, you can send him out on a, you know, angle route, Texas route, wheel route, whatever, get him out in space. That's an area where if I'm a Texas fan, we're talking about all the stuff that Ohio State fans worried about. If I'm a Texas fan, I don't feel great about the corners, but you know, maybe you can sort of figure that out. You put a safety over the top, whatever. You can probably figure that out. I don't love the idea of Legend Bay and space against any of the Texas linebackers. Like, Ricky Miles is athletic. I don't know if he's running with Legend Bay, but even if he is, there's probably a lot of other stuff they want to do with Ricky Miles. There are other linebackers. They just had them blanking as in the Tiantini Smith. Tiantini Smith was the linebacker who he was one of their smaller linebackers. He was more on like the 220, 225 kind of size linebacker, but he was like smaller.

He wasn't like a 240 pound guy trying to chase down Legend Bay. You want the smaller, smaller kind of linebacker to be the guy in space. He's not on the team anymore. That's something where he wasn't necessarily going to be like the clear cut starter. I think that was one of the reasons that he is no longer on the team. But he felt like one of the guys where you looked at it, he went, who are they going to put on Legend Bay and space? That would have been one of the answers. And now he's not an answer. If I'm a Texas fan, what I want to see out of Legend Bay is Ryan Day to be too scared to put him on the field. I'm going to talk about formation, like any formation with him on the field, I'm all four. I want him on the field as much as possible. I think that that just instills fear, gets people shaken, draws attention, opens up other stuff. And when he does get the ball, great things can happen. You might take a loss here and there. It's not always going to look like it did. There will be some negatives to playing a guy like that. He'll lose some yardage, pull some very standard stuff every now and again.

It won't work out and will be like, what the hell are you doing? But no, I think it's all positives. And I think we're going to see him out of the field quite a few snaps on Saturday. Ten snaps and offense, eight touches last week, which is a high turn up rate. That is a high usage rate. Yeah. But yeah, I'm with you guys. In terms of what Jeremiah Smith is out there, they're focused on him. Now you put Legend Bay out there. They know about him. Like, okay, this guy's different. Be aware of him. Now when you've got the boat out there, it's a little concerning that we're supposed to watch this guy, but also we got a Jeremiah Smith. And so it kind of gives you a more room opposite to Jeremiah Smith to operate within or with anybody else. You have to make you win. So I think there's going to be a lot of room on the whatever side of the field Jeremiah Smith is not on. I do wonder like if 10 snaps is the over under here on offense for Legend Bay, I'm not

going over that this week. I'd say over that, but under eight touches. Yeah, I think you're probably in 15 snaps, five touches, 15 snaps, six touches kind of think it you can't touch the ball every time you're out there. Otherwise, guess what? The other posing defense figures it out. The way they used him and just put the ball in his hands every time it was out there, it was like they're setting him up to be a decoy this week to a certain degree. I just I think that's you can't possibly sustain that kind of rate. And while we're talking about this, I'm just going to say all the stuff we're saying about Jeremiah Smith out there and then you have to worry about Legend Bay and they get to where it would be. And the Texas wide receivers, they got pretty good transfer running back from North Carolina State by the name of Hollywood smothers who they didn't run the ball very much last week, but first rush of the game, he went like 40 yards. You know, he doesn't need to do that very often. If he grips off 140 yard run or 30 yard run and then you get some stuff out of coal mine and get some stuff out of it. And Ronald Brown's good too.

Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So over under on 10 touch, touch snaps for Legend. I'll go over. Certainly under eight touches is what I'm going to go as well. Yeah, it's with the kickoff returns. Do you guys expect him to be back there? He was still back there in practice, Ryan Day said, but they're also putting other guys back there. Is this where Brandon and this is back there and the first order of business for Legend Bay is catch it. Look at Brandon. Then go. Yeah, yeah, there's a code word right there where Brandon and Innes is saying banana. If he's allowed to run it out of the end zone. If you do not hear him say banana, you and you run out of the end zone, you lose your helmet for the rest of the game. Tell you this, if they let him return, after that, if you let him return to Texas, there is a full on commitment to playing some real special teams this year because I am pretty like I've been critical of the plumping of the special teams free yardage for a long

time. That's actually a special teams term. Yeah. And this year, obviously with the hiring of Robbie Dishers, like, okay, they're actually going to take this seriously. But even is the way I wanted them to be so much more aggressive like this week, if it was me, I might just say, well, we'll wait till next week and address that then. Not hard. I feel, yeah, I do. I feel like a chicken saying that. But yeah, I'm a little concerned. And then with Robbie Dishers, because I'm trying to look for it, but I asked him about it in the spring in terms of the kickoff returns and do you want that to be part of your game? It is. Hell yeah, you do. I get to pick who gets the ball and I get to pick the blockers. Yeah, why would you take that away from me? Now I'm wondering how much he's pushing. Let's just keep going. Let's do it. We do. There's going to be some growing pains. We saw it. You got it out of your system against ball state. Let's go. We know what he can do. And even if it's not 95 yards, it might be 37. And you'll take that every single day. So anything over 34.

Anything over 34, I know based on the ball predictions this week. I just, if he is back there and that tells you one thing, if he has like nine or 10 touches, that tells you even more. It's like, whatever you thought you thought about Legend Bay, it's more because they know they are a better team with him having the ball in some way. And at this point, we're talking after the ball state game. Has he surpassed Isaiah West? Like already, we did so much talking about Isaiah West. And then he was like the fourth back in. And it's like, what's going on there? I've got a couple of super chats we're going to get through. Buddy Omar says, welcome, Chuck, love your input. Tom, can you please remind us who wears number 44 again? It's funny. I called someone this week to ask them who wore number 44 for Ohio State. I forget who that was. And I had to call turned up the answer is Episodontalai. Episodontalai is the one who wears number 44 for Ohio State this year.

512 ATX has hooked him. Welcome to Austin guys. Happy to be here. That's voting. I am looking forward to this. This is going to be fascinating. I'm wondering what the dynamic between Texas fans and Ohio State fans because they're not fan bases that are like natural enemies in the wild. Like Texas fans in Oklahoma fans or Texas fans in heaven forbid Texas and M fans. But you now have like, there's enough like shared history and a little bit of shared trauma locally here where it's like, this might be a little bit more of a bad blood game than you would think for two teams that don't, that only played what six times in history. So I was on Tuesday. I was on the mic, Roger show with me and wagon and the chip brown and orange 24 seven who's covered Texas forever. I asked him, you know, Steve is a Steve outlaw again as a brown fan. You, you, you experienced speaking of shared trauma and I'm like, no chip. I'm around browns fans and they have games and plays that are bad plays that have

the names that are stuck with them forever. It's part of who they are. They pass it down to their children. It's in the DNA. It's like, oh, you're baby with born of browns fan sickness. You know, and it's like, oh, does he already know the drive? Yes. His first two words were the drive. And I'm like, is there anything like that with the scoop and scores like, oh yeah. Like that's Texas fans. They, that is a day that will live in infamy. Jack, so they're sacking cringy or is taking it to the house. And so yes, there's some of that where I'm sure you didn't like Denver front Broncos fans. If you would ever run into them, he didn't say that right. So, but you live near Steelers fans and it's like, yeah, you're rivals. But like, when did they ever hurt you? Like John L. Way did, you know? And so with Ohio State and Texas fans, I think both programs and fans kind of respect the the pop and circumstance of what they are. And the importance that they had that they placed in football. But also there's Texas fans cannot stomach another loss to Ohio State.

I was reminded of the Penn State game last year, last year year before when they would have been like the year before, leaving the stadium, heading to the post game and running through, walking through Penn State fans who were just completely devastated and completely over it. And like, you guys, yeah, sure you lost Ohio State, but you go into the playoffs. And the guys walk was like, it doesn't matter. Like James Franklin's our coach. It just doesn't matter. They're completely defeated. It's like, you're going to have two losses. You're going to go to playoffs. They did, but it's like, you know, and then they went a couple of. They still only get to as far as you know, James Franklin could take them. Now, of course, he's no longer there, but just the feet on the face as the people just streamed out. I think there could be something like that. If Ohio State were fortunate enough to win, and they've seen Jack Stoyer, sorry for the Texas fans. Yeah. That's the guy. It's Tom.

Yes. That dress. I'm the photographer. So I'm like, oh, I always, I remember that play. Tom, let me pull up the, I've got a closer angle. I didn't think that was a video from the other side. I could, we could put that in there as well. But yeah, these producing, so it's still the same thing. Yes. You know, I'm also very interested in seeing this stadium as we've talked about the upkeep of Ohio Stadium, we're lack thereof for the last 30 years. These are two 100 year old stadiums. They've seen a hundred thousand. You know, it was originally a horseshoe and they've built in the South Fans. So there's a lot of parallels there with the stadium. I want to see the con courses, the restrooms. I want to compare all that too. You know, now that you're saying that, the only thing you could really tear down out of Ohio Stadium is probably South stands again. That was new in 2000. Right. Yes. That means it's like, it's not really particle, Iowa Stadium. You know, they would always get rid of South stands anyway. So like, you know, now Texas has the press foxes in the corner so that you can sell the

middle of the field to the high spitters. And I'm wondering if after Ohio State, the men in charge, the women in charge at Ohio State are at this game. They're like, since the event is something that I can do, you can get $140,000 a year for the boxes on the seat on the floor. The sweets that are behind me on the field. Right. Imagine what you could get that they're already getting, but now you could get more. If you just get rid of this, I was immediate at press fox. It's a lot of space. A lot of sports boots from free, right? Yeah. At Buck Ey old day says this whole weather thing is Texas trying to get in our heads because of how embarrassing it was for them two years ago. I mean, it is, it was legitimately hot. The forecast has cooled off a little bit. The forecast has cooled off a little bit for this weekend. So it'd be hot, but it's not going to be, I think last weekend it was 106, 107, something like that. It's going to be like high 90s, I think, on Saturday. And it's also a few hours later. So as soon as the sun goes down, it's going to cool off.

You know, it's, it was 150 on the field. I think you know, you're probably looking at 120, 100 and 30. Like, don't worry. I'm still going to be going back to the first question we got the whole day. I'm going to be hydrating the next couple days, but it's not, this is not going to be the hottest field these guys have ever been. No, and I think the whole weather thing is Texas like the, the buccas aren't being asked about the weather from the people in Texas. They're being asked about the weather from the people in Columbus. Yeah. And it's like, how did you know that it could be 90 plus degrees? Have you ever played it that? Did you even know that? Was it that last week in Columbus? For I like Indiana Jackson's answer when he's like, well, I don't South Florida. I haven't been there in a while. So, you know, I'm not used to it now, but you grew up with it with the heat. But like, maybe Braxton and we were talking earlier. I think during this show, maybe that they've been at the sauna, the rest of the every sauna. So, yeah, they've been here. I think so.

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