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Karsch and Anderson — Hour 4: Kalamazoo or Toledo?. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.
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So who else from the station would we want to put out there in a eating contest against Joey Chessnut? Hmm. Who is the dark horse that you know, no one would expect, but they really sound like. From our place? Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Can't wait to meet. That's kind of what you're doing. That's what I was thinking too. Yeah. Listen, I get me like, I got to work out right before this. Have like, go swimming or something, you know, where you build up an appetite. Will you do the cleansing? No. Like, like, like, he does. No, man, I'm not dedicated to after the chem. I'm just a, like, a citizen here. Well stated. Yeah, I'll put you off for days though. Yeah, then, then it's got to be something obviously I want to eat, but I think I could put it off. I think I could do like a, they were dunking munchkins, but there are Timahorton tidbits, whatever. If I got like, stone before I just had the munchies and just started just popping them in my mouth, like tons of, like the bucket, I could do a lot of those major damage. Yeah, but you've already straight up admitted performance and dancing drugs. Right.
If I got stoned, I don't know. Guess what? That's true. Is that abandoned professionally? You know what? I don't know. I think I'm going to get a game p test. Stone, he would fail. It would come out glazed. Stone, he would be banned from competitive eating for, for a full MLE season. Okay. Thank you for that little nugget of information. Of course. Yeah, anytime. I have a sneaking suspicion that they actually might get a decent crowd at Eastern tonight. Because of this or just in general. I think this helps, but I also think winning that opener and looking like they might have an explosive offense. And this is going to sound so geeky because it is. San Jose State put up a bunch of points on USC. So they did late. But foreshadowing the over pick for, if I bet. Anyway, I think they're the first place Eagles. That's right.
It's back to back Mac games. What's that? San Jose State, are they in the Mac? Now, I don't know, the Sacramento States in the Mac, I forgot. So the only way they would be playing them is if they played them literally back to back because they opened with Sacramento State. Oh, that's right. Yeah. So you got them confused that they might be playing them again here. Yeah, I see. I see. I'm just thinking about those donuts. That's quite alright. Okay. 10 tax. That's the question before the break. Michigan's playing Western Michigan. Michigan State is playing Toledo. Of those two towns, which is better and why? From Bing out in. Yeah. Yeah. Which is better. Why to hang out in? From Ben and Roseville. There's only three reasons to go to Toledo. One, mudhands game. Two, hookers. Three, I-75 runs through it. Hookers. Okay. High quality of Toledo hookers. I don't know.
Because Jed York went to Youngstown. Yeah. So maybe he should have checked out Toledo. From Jimmy and a truck, Toledo is better than Kalamazoo. The downtown bar scene is great, especially during a mudhands game. Also the casino is right there. It's always a blast. Kalamazoo, I've worked out there. I've worked out there and it's just not a great area. It's boring around there. Hmm. Oh, let's see. Laura says Toledo, the Toledo Art Museum, the glass-blowing cafe is awesome at the Toledo Art Museum. You have interest in a glass-blowing cafe stony? No, I don't. Okay. No. From Noah and a van, currently driving through Kalamazoo and there's nothing here except the sad excuse of a casino and a bird watching. I'm going in with Toledo because at least they have a zoo to people watch more than animal watch. Yeah. People say that Toledo is great. They have concerts there. I know people that for some reason the counting crows would go there all the time.
Really? They're in the middle of the year and they see them there. Grumpy's in Toledo is the best brunch I've had. Plus you've got the mudhands, the walleye, and Tony Poco's hot dogs. That's from Joseph and Punny. I have Toledo all day. I've never hung out in either place, but I know if I was in Toledo, I'd have to go to Tony Poco's. JD, the cable guy says Kalamazoo, the best part about it is it's not Ohio. I would definitely head to Kalamazoo. My uncle used to own a golf course in Kalamazoo called the Old Mill. Wouldn't mind going back there and playing it one last time. And frankly, if I don't have to go to Ohio for anything, I don't. It's from Rick and Warren. I guess you don't like good paved roads. John and Lake Orientalito is more fun because you're halfway to Cedar Point. Kalamazoo is halfway to Hammond. That's a good one.
I love it. I mean, you should really start thinking about the state of Indiana, national championship. Yeah. Noter name favorite to win it this year. And now two NFL teams. That's right. Indiana. I remember I'm old enough to remember when Indiana was a basketball state. That's right. Me too. Clearly a football state. Which is better Toledo or Kalamazoo. From an unnamed texture, Kalamazoo 100% Waldo's Tavern or Bel's Brewery post game can't get much better. Chris and Port here on the zoo, Bell's beer and donuts from Sweetwater donuts. They have a great tennis tournament in Kalamazoo. I know that. I think it's the Western open air something that's called. They have a great tournament. I don't know what it's called. I don't know. I know like, for like June, you got to go, Doug. What's the call? I have no idea. I have no idea.
Kalamazoo, tennis. It's like for juniors like Aaron Crickstein won when he was a kid. Okay. Oh, it's helpful. That's a little little detail. Nothing tops getting Trunk and Kalamazoo and finishing the night eating two fellas grill. That's from Will. So I went to Toledo for a mud hands game and got down there. It was like a Wednesday. And my wife and I re rolled up like a like 90 minutes before the game. And I'm like, we got to see the little stadium district. We went to a bar like this rooftop bar on a corner. And there were four people there. But we were outside. It was a warm day. Was it a small roof? It was a big roof. Okay. It was a sizable roof. There were four people there, including you and your wife. Yeah, including there were two guys at the bar. My wife and I were at one of the bartenders. My wife and I had our beers over in the corner like overlooking the intersection. And it was it was a cool little area.
Then when we were walking to the game, we realized there were like four better places we could have gone. Sounds like it wasn't the bar wasn't high to beat that place to be honest with you. And then Kalamazoo. rooftop or had five people. It was that popular, K. All right. The boys junior national tennis championships, AKA the USTA boys in 18, 18s and 16s national championship and nicknamed nationals at the zoo takes place at the Kalamazoo college campus in Kalamazoo. How, when is that tournament? Let me see when this year it is. I think it was already this because it's usually takes place in the summer. I would imagine. Yeah. I don't hold on. See if I can find that information for you because I know you really care. Well, I just wonder if you're giving the dates. It's not that essential to the topic. State. Don't worry about it. It was Friday, August 1st, the year it started. Okay. So went to Kalamazoo to go to a concert at the Bell's eccentric cafe, a little concert
hall they have there. And predictably they serve Bell's beer. Oh, yeah. So did you see your boys there? I did. Yeah. They're coming to Detroit. I know. Yeah. I'm just trying to climb the peacemakers. Yeah. Music's a little sketch for me, but really? The old stuff's great. Okay. Yeah, I got to give the new album another try. That's how we, everybody feels about their favorite artists. They old stuff so much better. Yeah, because the old stuff, we're much younger and you had no responsibilities and it seems so much more important back then. I know. All right. So there we go. It looks like this is a, this is a right about a 50, 50 split. No, it's a slight edge to Kalamazoo being better than Toledo, slight edge. We're going to pick some games coming up today at 135 and we got Gator's picks. He sent them in the first edition, first edition of if I bet it. This is also pretty much your last chance to get your predictions in on the Wolverines or Spartan season. How do you think they will do this year? Give us a record number reason why via a text or phone call.
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Thanks for being with us. Hey, my pleasure. Do it again on Tuesday. Two, four, eight, five, three, nine, ninety, seven, ninety, seven, Brian's on a sell and he's next. Hello, Brian. Hey, wow. I've been heard you guys in 15 years on the radio. I live in Texas, but now y'all are on serious, on serious radio. It's great to hear you guys. Great. Yep. Thank you. So, yeah, really Michigan State, you know, Michigan State alone. So I love the football team, but there has been one podcast. I'm really looking at the schedule. I don't really see anything more than four wins. I think they think they squeak out tonight. They beat Eastern. I think they split Nebraska Northwestern. And because of last night's Massachusetts, one of the Rutgers, I'll say they beat Rutgers right before wins. That's a Halloween game too. MSU or EMU Toledo Rutgers. And what was, who are they splitting Northwestern Nebraska?
Yeah, they'll split one of those two. OK. What do you think of Fitzgerald? I think he, well, he puts out great motivation videos on Twitter. That's great to see. Yeah, it's a lot of structure. I think it's good to have an adult in the room. I think it's a lot of fortunate as in coaching four years. We have little players with them and bring over. But I think it's a good hire. And who knows? Maybe in a couple of years, but he hasn't recruited so long in this new world. So it's hard to sell. Brian, thank you for the phone call. Thank you for listening. It's amazing because there's, you know, are you familiar? I was familiar with that. Aero Smith has an album, my famous album called Toys in the Attic. I think college football in this state should be called Adults in the Room. Well, definitely necessary. Yes, for both. Shempoch or Hall. Yes, totally that. Seven biggest what-ifs in sports since the start of the 21st century. Brobible put this out. Stoney, you sent this over and want to talk about it and just specifically for Detroit.
This century. The what-ifs since the year 2000? What's a top-year list? I got three here, okay? What if Matthew Stafford did not want to be traded? What do you think happens? What do you think the Lions are? I mean, I think he's a better quarterback than Jared Goff, but the ramifications of the trade would the talent be the same? You know, how would he have gotten along with Dan Campbell? I assume fine. You know, that type of thing. How would they've been able to build without all the draft picks? Right. Be interesting. Yeah, because they spun, they start spinning those draft picks, caching them in for even more. And so at the end of that, they ended up, that went to the great draft that was the Jameer Gibbs, Jack Campbell, Brian Branch, Sam Laporta. Oh, I'm actually glad they made the trade.
But, all right, what else you got? What if Jim Lealon put Phil Cokin instead of Joaquin Benoit? And then when they gave up the Grand Slam? Big, big, big Poppy. So when I, when I hear tigers of that era reflect, that was what they felt like as a team that should have won it all. Yes, that's the one Lealon even says that was his best team. And what's interesting, he doesn't look at that game as the killer in that series. He says, we won the first game anyway. So as one won, it was the first game in America where they beat Thurland or won nothing Napoli hit a home run. He goes, that's the game that killed us. There was a pitch right before the Grand Slam. I was sure as a pitch that in this era of pitch review, I think it led to sure as I remember, I threw a bunch more pitches and get pulled out of the game that if it was a called strike, which in this area with the automated system, I'd had a different outcome of that. Wasn't there a play at Jose Gleise's box that they'll play to?
Yes. I'm telling you, that's the one that bothered me out of that whole thing was that. And because that was why he was there. Yeah, I mean, what if we had a wizard? What if we had ABS? What if a glacius didn't butcher that ball? There's a whole bunch of what ifs from that stupid game. And my final one is stupid game. My final one is just as easy and maybe too obvious. But what if the pistons won the Wembee lottery? That to me is the biggest. Yeah, well, that would have been nice. So twice there are two credible reports. I got a couple here. Two credible reports that the pistons had a deal worked out for Kobe Bryant. One was when he was young. Although I guess it was a grand hill. Was that before 2000? Yeah, grand hill. So never mind. The second one was 2007. With Rip. With Brian Winhorse reported was Rip, Tashon, and a bunch of first round picks for Kobe. That apparently the Lakers had agreed to the terms and Phil Jackson talked them out of it. That was Winhorse reporting.
What if Kobe had gotten traded to Detroit? You know what? Maybe that was the one where Kobe exercises no trade clause. The first one might have been Phil Jackson. The other one is, what if that flag hadn't got picked up on the pass interference call on the Dallas flyoff? Yeah, absolutely. Because that was a good Lions team. Yes. That was a really good Lions team. Another one with the pistons was, I believe, I'm pretty sure I'm correct on this. They had a trade with Philly for Iverson. Then I mean, early on when I and Iverson's career, but Matt Geiger somehow had this trade kicker in his contract that if he didn't agree to a trade, he was part of the deal and the whole thing fell apart because of Matt Freakin Geiger. Really? Yeah. I got to tell you, the more I think about this topic, the more I realize this is a classic stony topic that is you end up like going through draft picks.
And you end up like crippling yourself in pain because you start thinking about like, now I'm going, what if Kendall Vildor had picked off that pass? What if Josh Reynolds hadn't dropped the fourth down pass? That's the one for me, for the Lions, for this era is the Josh Reynolds. But somebody says, you know, everybody picks on Josh Reynolds and rightfully so. But nobody seems to remember. Gibs. The fumble. When I was at Gibs, it was a goff. It was in exchange. Yeah. But there's like in that game, there's that. There's later Reynolds dropped the third and 10 crossing pattern. Yeah. That would have been a first down result. And upon two passes. The most, if you look at the most painful part of that game though, the thing that is just inexplainable is that Kendall Vildor's got an interception. But not only does he not catch the ball, he doesn't even force it in completion. He goes through his hands, hits his face mask, pops up in the air and is caught for a touchdown. But if I'm a mistake and he or somebody else was going to be caught for a defensive penalty
on that play anyway. I think so, Stony. But I think they said they were going to pick up the flag. Like it wasn't like from what I remember. But that's because that's why if you want to debate that, it's the Josh Reynolds drop. Yes. And the thing about this that trumps every other sport is the Lions were going to the Super Bowl. And for a lot of us, that is, they're not even winning it. It's going there to say that phrase. It's unthinkable. You dream of this. People were booking literally at halftime tickets, flights. Tobages. It's, it's, ah, thanks for bringing this topic up. Yeah. This is the epitome. It's Stony. Yeah, Stony brings up the most painful topics. Oh, you didn't have to, you know, lose it. Now I know why they can't yell that you yesterday. Right. You know, we should have done instead of this topic. You should have played music. Plays them louder music. Tony and McComb are 971. Hello, Tony. The biggest what if for me, as you still had that good Lions team, but what if it's Aaron
Donald on that roster instead of Eric Ebron, Aaron Donald, Max Tassou on that defense. And who knows how good that, that was a great light, a good lion defense that year. And that draft pick is the one that will haunt us for a very long time in my opinion as a lion fan. Yeah, I don't think they were going to, at the time, because I don't want to go back to all the drafts, because that's my pet peeve. As you know, I love that stuff. But I do. Um, I believe that was the dread, with the next pick wasn't like either Taylor, LeWan or O'Dell Beckham Jr. They went to two picks before. Yeah. No one even after that. They was. I just looked it up. Lions took Eric Ebron at 10. Then Taylor, LeWan 11, O'Dell Beckham Jr. 12, Aaron Donald 13. Sweet. Mm hmm. Two, four, eight, five, three, nine, 97, 97.
So how about this one? What if Kirk Herbstreet got corrected for Mason and Les Miles was hired as the Michigan football coach? So that was which coaching search was that was instead of they ended up with Richard. Actually, the greater what if and if I ever have a chance to interview him, I'm going to curse him out. If McAfee doesn't miss those fuel goals in the backyard bra, West Virginia wins that game, goes in probably place for the national championship. Richard stays there. Yep. That's true. Well, then Richard. He almost got the Alabama jam before. Yeah. Interesting. Two, four, eight, five, three, nine, 97, 97. Kanga, we're going to do the Gator Rant. We're going to do the Gator Rant. Sure. If you want it, man, the Gator Rant. And we do every Friday during football season returns today. That is coming up in about 15 minutes because we got Tiger Baseball afternoon game today. Carson Anderson, 97, what? The Karsh Stoney.
That's what if thing he brought up is painful. It's funny because I'm looking up something that was on Twitter and they had the 10 worst collapses in major league baseball history. The Tigers 2009 team is seven, not last year because I still made the against the game 163 here. Wow. Yeah, I'm pretty much the dogs. Yeah. What if Stoney never brought up this top? We'd all be happy, right? It's ProBibles fault. It's not mine because they have the ones in all sports in this century. Yeah. What was on their list? Darron. What if Derek Rose never got hurt? Okay. Which is pretty good one. What if the 2012 Thunder never broke up? Oh, man. They drafted three MVP's. Kevin Durant, James Harden, and Russell Westbrook. Crazy. Three Hall of Famers. Seattle runs the ball.
Yeah. At the end of the Super Bowl. Oh, my God. Yeah. Brady would have one less Super Bowl speaking of which. What if Drew Blitz so never got injured? Yeah. That's right. That was this century. What if Patrick Mahomes was drafted by the Bears? That's right. He'd be in Hammond. That's a great one. What if Conor McGregor never fought Mayweather? I don't know. I don't care. It's not worth a Wrestle Less Rich. Right. That even got me interested. Which is hard to do with a fight. You watched it. Right. Yes. I did. I didn't know what I was watching at the end. No one did. I don't care enough. What are we watching? Um, well this affected me. Sources Stanford. This from P. Thamos. Sources Stanford with P without for projected offensive starters in a key defender against number seven Miami tonight in in Palo Alto. Stanford has three projected offensive line starters out with injury.
Wide receiver Nico Brown is out along with edge Gabe Kaminsky, who had one and a half sacks against Hawaii. So Stanford plus 23 and a half cost that out. That was on my list. That was a popular pick because you know, traveling cross country, you know, Stanford's played a game already. Former Michigan quarterback Davis Warren at the helm of the card. Great kid. Awesome kid. Yeah. Great story too. All right. We do appreciate all your predictions today for Michigan and Michigan state. These will be sealed and we'll revisit them at the end of the year. Well, do the same thing for the Lions next week. Are you Chester about the Lions? I think they win the division. Okay. That's about as far as I'll go. Yeah. I still find it curious even right now. They still get those two out roster spots open. And you know, they can call up practice squad guys at any time. Yeah. But that tells me the fact that they didn't. So they've these two spots have been open
for a couple of days. That tells me they're searching for people outside the organization. Yes. Right. That's like to me too. So continue to monitor waiver wires. Free agents. Is there a trade brewing? That would be nice. Would be. It'd be good. If Brad Holmes went out and did one of like the Joey Porter or Christian Gonzalez. That was something massive like that. I feel like Detroit wouldn't even care what happened. No. They'd be just like, Oh my God. They did something. They did something. Yeah. Like they wish they did the Micah Parsons trade who's hurting. Yes. Still heard. Right. But people say well, you say tried. Okay. You ready to pick some games? Yes. All right. This is if I bet it. Okay. So we haven't figured out what the loser's going to have to do yet, Kang hot dog or coffee or well, I think I doubt either one of you will change
after one week. It's only three games. Right. So you'll still want to do a bed. And if you went Oh and three, you'd still be up for it probably. Well, not I'll pour it to begin with. Oh, come on. We'll figure it out. All right. So Stoney's going to make picks. Gator Texan overs picks. Do you have his picks, Kang? Oh, yeah. I do actually. Yeah. Okay. Good. And you got I apologize. I didn't send you mine, but I had to change mine right now because of the Stanford injuries. I am no longer selecting Stanford plus 23 and a half. I will start with a game tonight at Ryan Irson, Stady and Mr. Michigan taking on San Jose State. Two teams have shot a lot of offense in their openers. And frequently have questionable defenses. The total on this game is 56 and a half. I'll play the over over 56 and a half Eastern Michigan and San Jose State. My mind is going to be the defending national champions are home. They're giving North Texas 40 and a half points. I'm going to take those points because the Hoosiers have not scored more than 31 under Signeti and openers. Interesting. Okay.
Next up. Do I Gators? Oh, yeah. Sorry. My back. Go ahead. Gator. He has he's taken the Michigan Wolverines minus 27 and a half versus the Western Michigan Broncos. He's actually going to be at the game. He might even yell out of Go Blue. I think this guy's becoming a closet Wolverine fan. Seems that way, doesn't it? All right. Next up Cincinnati at home hosting Boston College Cincinnati is laying seven and a half. I hate to hook, but I will take the bear cats to cover seven and a half against BC. Yeah. BC is a maker break year probably for Billy O'Brien. I'm going to do something I usually don't do and that's take a road favorite. I'm taking the I'm going to Tallahassee and taking SMU minus three against Florida State. The must I love Kevin Jennings and their coach. I think Brett Lashley is borderline brilliant. Okay. Gators pick. Gators next game is Ohio State versus ball state. He's not going to pick a team, but he's going to take the over 56 in this one. This is one of those games that if ball state I think the Ohio State is
favorite, but like 50. So the theory is Ohio State ball state scores at all. Take the over to get the over. Interesting. I got SMU minus two and a half on Fandall. And it is my car car house lock of the week. I like this pick a lot against against FSU. I'll take and I agree with you about Lashley. Great coach. Next one my my stone lock cold stone lock. This is a neutral site game I believe in Atlanta. Auburn giving bailer seven and a half points Auburn the quarterback Byron Brown is the only quarterback in the country last year to rush for a thousand yards and throw for three thousand. There it is. And stone Gators final pick Gators final pick is shoot the boot lock of the week. He likes Indiana minus 40 against North Texas. I'm going against them. That's right. You guys have to put a little side wager. I guess so Kang out of them didn't give
you a ton of time. Is there one of these picks you love and one of these picks you hate? I don't like the Michigan versus Western Michigan. I think they win by 26, which is under the 27 and a half to get her husband. Okay. And any of them you love. I like SMU Doug. I like that pick right there at the end. That's the game I'm going to be watching too. And Stoney was in on that one as well. So there is the first edition of if I bet it those are picks and we'll be back again next week with three college three pro games as we wind up for the football season. Stoney what are your plans for watching Michigan State tonight? We have to we have some event that we have to go to that I'll have to probably start watching it a little later. Yeah. Then plan. But I plan after the event we're going to go with my daughter and my wife somewhere where they have a television to watch the game. I'm going to test the how much my wife loves me. I'm going to suggest we go to the first half of the Eastern San Jose State game. Little date night. So don't go. What? What if I tell her Joey
Chestnuts? Well, that's the I was going to say maybe she can get Joey Chestnuts autograph. Then we got Michigan State Toledo after that full day of college games tomorrow. We are on the air. It is a 7 30 kick around the earth 4 30 on the network part of that one. So I'm on the air at 9 a.m. tomorrow. Oh, are you? Yes. That a boy. Thanks for listening everybody. Stoney, thanks for coming in. Stay safe. Treat each other with respect during Fridays during football season. We always have the Gator rant. This is if you have to negotiate more time in front of your TV with the significant other. So we take this during a teaser for the next day show and here it is the Gator rant. Heading back to campus, timed web grades your entire tech setup. Switch to Verizon, buy or bring a qualifying smartphone and get a smartwatch and a tablet on us. That's all your essential gear for zero extra dollars. Ace your classes, track your fitness and stream your favorite shows. Visit Verizon.com or your local store today. Bring an eligible phone to purchase a new phone with
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