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Karsch and Anderson — Hour 4: College Football talk.. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.
We'll get to submission get a Michigan state stuff coming up as we move in at another week in a college football. Okay, little experiment here. I want to know what you would rather do. Lions bills at Cosm, a week from tonight in the dome, $605. Okay, $605. Right now, I just did a quick Google search, actually did a travelosity search. I can fly round trip from Detroit to Los Angeles on frontier for $436. Then go to Cosm LA and watch Lions bills for $41. It is cheaper to fly to Los Angeles.
Round trip. Go to Lions bills. It caught watching a Cosm in the dome in LA and fly back. Is it really only $400 and something to fly round trip to LA? That is correct. It's $436. Well, I mean, it's the cheapest fly. It would be 1037 AM on Wednesday and 436 select and return the next day at $228 or return Friday at $228. And then go to Cosm LA for $41. Now you have to get hotels and food and all that. Sounds like a, was you talking to Jimmy? You know, it feels like another car should an Anderson adventure. I think so. We could have, so we'd have to leave early in the day we could do that Mike and Rico do eight hours. Right, right. Yeah, that would work. And then Friday, we'd miss the show coming back. So they could do eight hours then too.
I'm sure they do us that favor. Yeah, no worries. Hey guys, let's do it. Fly to LA and watch Cosm in the dome. You down? Yes. Yeah, I am. Okay. So Michigan plays Oklahoma on Saturday, Michigan State plays Eastern Michigan on Saturday. We haven't got much of your thoughts on the Spartans in the opener and what you're looking for to improve week to week. I've got a list for Michigan. That is short, but what would you like to see for Spartans? Well, first of all, what I liked in the first week in the, in the opener, I liked that they, they started strong. I thought the running game looked good right off the bat. I thought that did a nice job. The quarterback play from Milovojovik was, was I thought really good. High level. I thought he played at a very, very high level. It was very accurate. Bollard at receiver did a, the great job to get him back in the mix.
But the problem with Michigan State and that game was that they weren't finishing drives. And they settled for field goals and then you've got, they ended up with five field goals on the day, which obviously accounts for 15 points, which was, fortunately, made the difference in the game. But they needed to finish drives with touchdowns, not field goals. That to me is going to be the big step moving forward this week against Eastern is don't settle for the field. We'll get the touchdown, finish those drives, finish those plays and hot human night, Friday night, nice lancing. Did it take its toll on Michigan State in that game, maybe a little bit it did. You could tell that Cam Edwards was in trouble a little bit with the cramps and the cramping and in and out of the lineup in the second half. And that's going to, once you're in and out, it's just going to affect you. You know, you're not going to be able to give that 100% like you expect to. But I thought State played well enough in that first game that it's a good base point. All right. Now you need to improve from week to week.
There are certainly areas they can improve on the offensive line. It didn't look like this well-eiled machine yet. But first week of the season, I wouldn't expect that. Can they be better in the second week against Eastern? I think they can't. I think that is the grand scheme of things is to lead to a better team than Eastern Michigan is probably. But I like where the Spartans are at right now because it's in a way that game against Toledo was not the perfect game for them because it obviously didn't thump them. But it was good in a standpoint that they they know that they have to improve and it's like it's all on film. Okay, guys, we won the game, which is most important. We got down to the fourth quarter. We were trailing the fourth quarter and came back and won that game by double digits. That's all good. The defense there were a lot to be happy with the defense and a lot to work out with the defense. The second area has got to cover better. We need to get more pressure on the quarterback. Offensive line has got to be stronger.
It got to be stronger going to the second half and opening up bigger holes so our running game can take over and dominate the game. Can these things happen in week two against their former teammate Noah Kim in the fighting team from Eastern Michigan? We will see. But I like their chances to go to it. The Noah Kim storyline is the first of three story lines of Spartans facing old quarterbacks. You know, you get to the point where a couple of years removed, nobody knows anybody anyway. It's not like there's entire class that he came in with and everybody stays on rosters anymore. But the fact is Toledo's a kind of team. I said it about Western Michigan. Nobody paid attention. Nobody cared. And nobody cares still that can beat you. If you don't show up, they can beat you. And Toledo had a lot of unknowns. First year coach bringing players from the FCS level at Mercer. Now it's you know, an Eastern Michigan team that it was pretty impressive in week one. Spent some time in first place in the mid American conference before dropping that game to San Jose State.
Bigger is it a bigger challenge. Time will tell, I guess. But bottom line is there's stuff to work on for Michigan State. The one thing I'd say that maybe was different. You tell me if I'm wrong. Last year when the Spartans started to take on water, they couldn't stop. Like it just like South and Hurrey. This team was trailing in the fourth quarter and found a way to not lose the game. They responded. Yeah, they did respond. That's why I thought was important in that fourth quarter. You get down even it was by the slimmest of margins. But you come back and you responded. You responded not only with your offense, but you responded with your defense too. So that was important. You know, to see somebody emerges in the kicking game was was exciting to see. You know drilling that kick from beyond 50. And there was no questioning the leg on that was it's going to stay accurate. It did that's that all boats well for me. It was it was a nice win for the Spartans wasn't a great win.
Plenty of work on but I think that's the positive comes out of it. You know, you've got stuff to work on you still come out of it. Want to know. Okay. So now Michigan is Michigan have a chance to completely turn the script and go from a team that nobody thought would have a problem to a team that nobody thinks can win to winning that game. There are so many examples in history of this happening again are happening before. I've cited the 1980 Michigan team that lost one there open or 17 maybe you're 79. They won their opener. That was 80 one there opener, but against vintage O 11 Northwestern type of team. They won at 17 to 10. They lost their next two games ran the table won the Rose Bowl. The next year Michigan entered the season number one in the country. They opened it Wisconsin and lost 21 to 14. The next week number one Notre Dame came to Ann Arbor. At Michigan flip the script and beat Notre Dame soundly 25 to seven. There's no there's Notre Dame from two years ago that lost to Northern Illinois early in the season ended up playing for the national championship.
College football and college football players are not chess pieces. They probably have more varied variability week to week than many other sports and what makes the sport great and fun. Big house momentum need a fast start all those cliches and need better play and a variety of factors. They call team meeting Sunday. They really get into each other about the fact that they didn't didn't work and play nearly hard enough. The fact that I still think this can be a good offensive line that struggled in game one. And is it explainable? No, do I think this game has potential to be closer than people think of course, but. The fact they need their defense to be legit. The defense was was pretty good against Western Michigan much bigger challenge this week watching mature my strode that offense last year. Watch the last years game again last night. He is so good with the football knowing where to go with the football.
He had a great game in that game. He wasn't always that good, but he's another year older and chances are he is going to be better and he's a great template as a dual threat guy for what price underwood could be and price underwoods got to make better decisions in the throw game and the run game. But they got to get that run game going and they got to get price on the edges and and play to his strengths maybe narrow the playbook a little bit. But I think you know I'll go into the game by the time the game works every week by the time Saturday rolls around I'm like they got a chance. But part of that is being in the building and realizing that they fully believe they have a chance. Yeah, I mean last week was a tough week. I don't know if that it was just reality hitting that he waited a minute. They're not as good as they think they are or do they just take it for granted or was it just a bad day at the office won't know until a few games into the season. They suck. Right. Well, I'm so saying is that part of it too. Oklahoma probably feeling pretty confident about their chances going into this week, but if they're smart they don't take for granted because you're coming to a place that is.
You know notorious for putting a hundred and ten thousand people in the stands and it's going to be a great day for it and obviously Michigan is. Chopping it the bit to get back at it they want another chance to redeem what happened last week is it just wasn't good enough. And you're right the running game has got to be better and they've got the they've got the horses for it including the quarterback and getting running for me. I would say that the key is moving the sticks do that because they sure didn't do enough of it against western. You know that too many whatever three and out there five and out whatever it was they have to have sustained drives and have many of them because you're going to want to keep Oklahoma off the field because they are really explosive offensively. I mean the thing is incredible. They're tight ends amazing the fact that material through for 225 yards on only 11 completions tells you that these guys can make plays happen after the catch and it's a dangerous football team. They're really really talented at Oklahoma and I don't know if this is going to be a complete blow up by Oklahoma. I tend to think it's going to be closer, but I do think Michigan's going to end up one and one.
So the other thing the Michigan can't do they did in week one is don't undermine your own drives or penalties can't do. I mean it is the crazy thing is Michigan was one of the least penalized teams in the country and this is one of the things I was thinking about well they release one of these penalized teams a year ago and. Typically. Call waiting hand teams don't get penalized at the time when I see a bunch of penalties that tells me they really aren't that comfortable yet in what they're trying to do hopefully each week they get more and more comfortable less thinking and more just playing as things come instinctual. 2485 3997 and Bryce under with no more holding penalties I've never seen that before a quarterback get flagged for holding it I mean right. I got an interesting question out there from one of our listeners on Twitter we'll get to that coming up today at 120 it's Carson Anderson 97 one. So Scott.
Doug eight days ago on this radio program. We made the point hey here's a thought. Hey here's a thought do it all the time. Speaking to the big 10. About showing all replay deliberations live on the air the big 10 has announced they're going to do exactly what we were suggesting. Replay deliberations will be broadcast during games moving forward not just for Friday night games which is when we said they should probably do this all the time. It took a day and well seven days I mean they may announce when yesterday but I guess it doesn't come as a huge shot opening week a football 97 one is presented by hands free and then I'm going to get a sketch or slip ins just step in and go. All right so we got a tweet here from a member of our audience and I want to help this guy out. And I've lost it hold on for a sec from Mike Hamill.
My wife and I are going to Vegas to celebrate our 20th wedding anniversary what's one thing I shouldn't miss while I'm there. Going to Vegas for their anniversary what's one thing he writes I shouldn't miss while I'm there and I'm wondering if he's going to ditch the wife at some point or is this a is this a there's something that they should do together. Can you're Mr. Vegas what's he is Mr. so this is very simple and it's free and accessible to everybody personally I think you should always if you've never done it before see the ballad you'll found show. It's it's iconic it's free it's really cool I remember the first time I saw it still hits when I go back the 19th time you know it's just it's Vegas it's and like I said anyone can go do it now there's crowds of course but if you go maybe during the week and during it like off season or whatever but I think the Lodge of Founts is something that if he's never gone to Vegas before you should do that.
Okay I got a solid call man at night when it's the whole strip is lit up and the Fountains are lit up it's the music and it's gorgeous. I mean I've stayed the blogger for the last five years and for those five years I made sure I had a fountain view room it's fantastic. Man this guy baller first class. Found view. How you got to do it guys. I had no that's not much more expensive normal in there but it's but it's beautiful right beautiful I got it's a great call. I think just if you're going to go there be ready to walk but do walk enjoy it like the Venetian is beautiful with the the canals and all that and going into each of the different hotels is cool you go to look at Paris is different than all the themed stuff but it's cool. But to me the number one thing is just plan ahead for restaurants. The food is fantastic in Las Vegas like make reservations make reservations find out what you want do some research or what the best places are and they're they're plentiful they're awesome and enjoy.
So what about the sphere. I haven't been inside the sphere I would say make it a point to go look at the sphere. From at least from the exterior yeah can but go inside I know can't say go inside. Yeah I mean I was there for the initial draft that was really cool so I got to see how everything works I haven't seen a show there the inside is it's like you're at a casino but there's a show going so weird like the carpet that you know everything that the beautiful like. Chandeliers everything is super nice and clean in there I don't think you have to go it's something like there's other shows to that's just part of Vegas they have a lot of different things you can that can entertain you besides the gambling they have shows in the spheres one of them it's expensive to go in there because you to go see something there even if it's just like the tour or whatever. You could see like space or near national geographic that's still going to cost a hundred bucks or something just go check that out it's expensive that's why I say the very least check out the exterior of it and spend some time looking at it there's. I don't know if it's it back a Paris where you can get a good view of it and just kind of sit on I want to stand on one of the bridges out there and look it it's awesome.
Well the one thing I would say is that I and this is so simple but the people watching is amazing I mean it is amazing in Vegas and casinos it's wild and you can just sit there and and just watch the range so I was just in Vegas last summer right again annual trip and my wife had to stop use the restroom so I just sat on a slot machine and just wait outside the bathroom. The range of people you see walking through the casino floor at any given time is insane like you could see a girl in a bikini and flip flops and then the next person walk by is a guy in a full tuxedo right you want to be like and then dude behind him is in basketball shorts and the next person is in like a costume like it's insane like this is all within like a 20 minutes span and get somebody walking their dog yeah it's crazy and so you know a bridal party and my wife comes out I'm like you won't believe the different amount of money. The different amount of people I just so why why you're in the bathroom it's insane watching that's it can be crazy it can be absolutely crazy.
All right so we had breaking news we open the show with talking about the accusations about hazing in the Michigan hockey program from the mid 80s to the early 2000s as for almost every legal case these are not places for hot takes you can read the story the allegations are disturbing but we let these things play out. In court but red baronson gave some quotes to m life today and he says the following we knew there was a certain element of initiation on our team and it was usually orchestrated by the seniors we didn't promote it we didn't question it we didn't encourage it. But as time went on when you think about it like we spend all our energies as coaches recruiting the incoming freshmen so the last thing we want to do is see these kids get abused by their teammates. Disappointing when it comes out now because I've never had a player come in and complain to me as far as I know never came in and complain to the assistant coaches about how terrible it was it was usually how they felt welcomed we were where there's some mishaps where there's some bad experiences possibly but it wasn't a matter of direction or a matter of direction or.
Encouragement from the coaching staff or the administration. That sounds like somebody's trying to wipe his hands. Not not not me or it's true it could be yeah I mean that's why I say let these things play out but I mean it's it's it's playing defense right there this situation is just it's gross all around it's it's really disturbing it is it's I mean it's going to come out in court so there have been accusations made in the past. Of in hazing cases that have been found in the past sharel hazing that was found a credible defense. So we'll see what comes out of this but we will let it play we will let it play 2485 3997 97 it's Carson Anderson here on 97 one. Hey you guys hear me talk about twin peaks a lot it's hard not to they combine two of the biggest things on the planet that bring people together sports and food. Whether you're out trying to catch your favorite team in action celebrating a milestone or meeting with your old friend you won't find a better place to do so then your favorite lodge those who've been no one I'm talking about those who haven't let me bring it down for you 50 plus high definition TVs bring you all the sports you carry.
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last chance to get your Voltass predictions in, a two 484//tyPati 39-97 uh... stromboli is rolled calzone is flipped that's from an unnamed tuxer calzone is folded stromboli is rolled i also think that including ricotta cheese is a determining factor sincerely local fact kid so i'm looking at up right now is the main difference between calzone and stromboli is how they are shaped and sealed calzone is folded and there you go and roll that that that that the that the same thing isn't it i mean really uh... please give us a video of gator typing on a keyboard using just his middle finger so i use it more is supposed to it would i you know can i go without my ring finger and rather go without my ring for the middle finger uh... primary difference between calzone and stromboli point this is a hot button topic of how they are shaped where the sauce goes and the cheese used
inside the calzone is essentially a pizza folded into a pocket with creamy ricotta well stromboli is rolled up like a jelly roll packed with Italian deli meat and gooey melted cheese getting rambling so the calzone is kind of like a taco stromboli is kind of like a burrito so one folded versus roll the i i would prefer the stromboli all over the calzone i think is is how that i'm interpreting that but i'd rather just have a slice of pizza i don't want that that i mean if i want to put two slices of pizza on top each other have a full that i just take two slices of pizza on top so what's a hot pocket considered i think i would be more like a uh... burrito i guess so be more like stromboli stromboli you know the pizza hot pockets i know what you're doing of course you do i know what they are i know what they are i don't use them but i know what they are don't use them i don't use them in a functional way i don't use them uh... skip back to your phone calls we got a video you're ninety-seven one hello
video hey guy today what's up love your guys a show i always just curious is it a bold prediction or just back that jimmy or kids will break two thousand yards i like the way you worded that um... i think it's a bold prediction anytime anybody goes over two thousand yards but right it's not the most ridiculous thing i've never ever heard i would take the under so i suppose that makes it bold uh... excellent i just wanted your guys opinion on that i'm in the field you guys stay great and be blessed but i think you know opportunity is there asalus kill set is elite is so good yep he's so good you know he is he's a weapon he is a weapon dog going back to day one i've heard this before and put i just put a pen in it there are a bow on this yeah the hot pocket is more calzone is it not that i think about it you do you know that definitely more calzone okay because it's like you just folding it you're putting it in there and putting the dough on top and crimping it like a hot
pot we got eight more minutes don't change your mind all right i won't final final decision okay i'm i'm i'm i'm locking it in all right Scott you are the king of watching still watching tiger baseball and watching it with a great intent are you still the king of watching minor leagues yes yeah i'm paying attention to see what river rinded i saw river rind went to shut out eddings gave up two bloop singles struck out a couple only through about 20 pitches there's something 16 i think of the 20 pitches were for strikes he was good yeah paying attention to that until you don't finishing their season and eerie is in the playoffs so watching zayar hope uh who's had nothing four hits in the first two games in the playoffs for eerie they split the games one and one well in heading tweeted out today zayar hope had to deal with some post school bull trade expectations as he settled in at the tiger's farmstop in eerie a guy batting four hundred in his last nine games has joined patent gram and newcomer woody hating
hey dean as the reasons three reasons eerie's in the playoffs yeah patent gram a short stop what he had dean has had what he had he's had a really nice season and zayar hope it has not gone unnoticed by yours truly that after the rough first ten games he had he has been on fire he's been outstanding for them and as batting average despite the horrible start is up like two sixty five pretty pretty good pretty some say something yeah well you know this is a guy that I mean this is your hope it's a cornerstone right you don't try to wake terrick scuba and not get it a cornerstone that's the whole yeah no pun intended with his last name the yep two four eight five three nine ninety seven ninety seven all right so tonight we got an NFL game uh... coming in to lose her chooser do you want to know it's to lose her chooser NFL Thursday night and we did it last night for the sea hawks and the patriots tonight we've got the Rams and the Niners gator who do you think is going to lose this game
i think it's going to come down to the travel experience right you've got the Rams are going to fly in and try to fly in and out and do it as quickly and quietly as possible whereas the Niners have gotten out there to acclimate themselves to the time change i think the other thing uh... the other facturinus is aeronautyl is not playing and he's not even traveling with his teammates he's staying back and i need to go to Australia you guys are good and that's kind of weird um because of these things i really like the the Rams to get off to a bad start this year at all in one i think the the Niners are poised to try to make a statement this would be a statement game for them and then i don't think the the Rams are up to the task i feel like it means more to the Niners than it does the Rams i i kind of agree with you i think the Rams are going to lose tonight and i think i think the travels going to make a difference i think it was a bad move to parachute in having made that flight when you when you get there you are so out of whack and now to be fair they had laid out beds on their plane they were
sleeping they you know i was flying commercial they don't know what day it is they don't know what day it is they're uh the the Rams are three and a half point favorites in this game too so we agree yeah i think the Rams lose LA Rams lose tonight all right there you go hey just a reminder coming up tomorrow we will debut our first segment with the birchie kid every Friday inside uh what's going on the very latest from Allen Park as the Detroit Lions open their season on Sunday against the New Orleans Saints we told you earlier the buy and price 197 10th highest in the NFL lowest was 21 dollars for jets at tightens highest buy and price for an opener is actually on Thursday night when buffalo host alliance 396 dollars uh i expect the Detroit to be electric on Sunday so the team that has high expectations should have high expectations and you've got a division that's really really good
and i get a sense that Detroit fans only really respect green bay and you might be right i think there's still some Ben Johnson fans out there that think that Chicago is uh they're not going to take a giant step back i think buying large so people feel pretty chesty about the lines winning this division uh maybe in largest part because of the schedule uh the non-divisional schedule favors the lions over the other teams because it's the last place schedule you're playing the last place teams and in other divisions and that that matters it really does matter so i i think there's that but i'm not sure if i would completely sleep on the bears i wouldn't sleep on the bears either but Kang as soon as i said it you started nodding your head yes what's sleeping on the bears no that Detroit fans don't only fear like only respect green back i think they do i think uh i mean i know we're to asking for bold predictions but these bold predictions were pretty positive all the way around right like a historic type of offense bold prediction so i think it's a combination of fans being confident in their own team being
chesty and also they just don't respect the Vikings because they you know they have to get another quarterback jade didn't work out obviously uh they think the bears got lucky and i think there's a hatred with Ben Johnson so it's a lot easier to root against them and so that just leaves you the packers and the packers just have been a thorn in our sides for decades so i think that's the only thing they really kind of fear and the packers are without some big players to start the season no micro Parsons for a while uh Josh Jacobs looks like he's getting ready to go on a on a certain commissioners list that wouldn't be surprised if that happens any second now uh they're they compared to that list i think uh well today i think as today he he put no uh no contest today to the charges so that's going to be interesting how how long he's going to be out for but yeah that's a big stumbling point for the packers the crazy thing is if you look at the pairs and all the close games late comebacks all the things they did last year it was impressive but it's the kind of thing that you're one play away from it going the other direction and now they got to play first play
i do think it's interesting with the lions with the predictions we got today the bold-ass predictions and kings right they were a lot of those were offensive heavy yep i think maybe an underlying reason why we all think the it's offensive heavy is because think deep down we all feel like the offences gonna have to score a lot of points this year because we don't fully trust the defense just yet it's got it's a proven thing it's proof of concept show me the defense is better we got some hutch bold-ass predictions we got a a anis rake straw bold-ass prediction a hasanine we got a hasanine we got a rakia sin we got one overall that basically said they think that the secondary is going to hold over the top what do you say top two cuts yeah it was a two cuts top 10 top 10 in past defense um so not a lot of offensive our defense of predictions but we did get some of them look i i can i can see just about all of them except the hasanine one because he had 13 sacks and i'm like okay that's a bit that's a bit heavy and i said why don't we tap a tampon down to eight and you guys were like maybe six maybe five but if you get six five six sacks out of omit hasanine
you're getting more than you bargained for right yes yep so uh should be fun and it all gets underway sunday of course anaphalton night college weekend that will proceed the opener for the Detroit Lions and then it's the short week before that huge game at buffalo a week from today we'll be talking about game two for the Detroit Lions Rico beard has sonnered in studio hello Rico how are you gentlemen yeah you're right yeah week from today and they're crazy now we're right back at it i don't know where cookies and i will be for Lions pregame but we'll be somewhere in the metric Detroit area very good uh what do you guys got playing coming up next little cleanup from yesterday a lot of college talk with some cleanup from yesterday and um i'm gonna since we're gonna do a lot of Lions heavy tomorrow gonna talk some college stuff today and then red wings and GM and when is gonna happen i think it's gonna happen like at friday news dump wasn't that supposed to be last week but think about it perfect thing friday news dump michigan
we're gonna be talking either michigan oculahoma lions would happen you're not gonna be talking wings on monday well if they've got a guy hope they're not waiting do it now stay safe treat each other with respect now he's someone
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