Hour 1: Will Taylen Green be the Browns backup QB in Week 1? + Quick Hits

0:00It's Tuesday on afternoon drive. I think we have a fairly young team. I'm not ready to name guys that are permanent for us. I do think it's cool for players to go out for the coin toss. I think it's really cool. I think most teams have more leaders than just four. But guys, I just believe that. I have no confidence, Dashaun. He's going to do anything that interests me, and I'm probably going to be mad. But overall, I'm still very excited for this Jacksonville game, and I'm excited to see all the parts about this Brown's team that I think over the next couple of years, people are really going to start to like, should all of them being the backup and it's almost like a fun reserve. You just happen to the fun reserve anytime you need to. There's going to be a joke that happens when Shador gets named the starter. I think they have enough around the quarterback to make it interesting. And that's all you really need in the NFL. We never do that to my workboat. I'm about to workboat a thing. That's what I went and stuff like workboat. Why? Just did just something to say. Why? Something you should be calling me. Why? You have to work wives, work husbands. Well, we're, you know, we're booze. We're not booze.

1:01You never had to workboo before? Moose sounds a little funny. So you have food and limitations. Is what I'm understanding? It's the afternoon drive with Nick Wilson and Jonathan Peterland on Cleveland's sports radio, 92-3-The-Fan. The booze are back, Nick Wilson, Jonathan Peterland. We are here for the next five hours. Happy Monday, everybody. The Playoff Plot thickens for your Cleveland Guardians. Go Garts, Garts, ball. Oh, week one of the NFL season commences tomorrow with a rematch of a pretty dog booty. Super ball, it's OK. It's going to be totally different this time. Way better, way more highlights. And we're getting you ready. Browns, Jags, Downy, Under, in Jacksonville, munking the maximizer speaking on this station earlier today. But that open courtesy of Michael Marcatch on the board. Yes. Michael, good to see you. And we got Jake Murrow, man in the 92-3-The-Fan YouTube channel.

2:04And producing is always. You can watch this show all five hours long. These beautiful faces I look hit today. This is not good. This is what drinking and sugar gets you for a whole weekend. Anyways, you can look at us on 92-3-Vans. YouTube channel, subscribe, is always ring that bell. Except you, Cornelito. Sugar Cornelito. And like our videos, we desperately like to be liked around these parts. And then Matt Karali, AKA this weekend's birthday boy in the 2020s. He's now officially 18. Hi, JP. How you doing? I well, how's it going today? We're tired. We're very tired. We're tired. Yeah, this is. This is tired. We chased it too hard in this Labor Day weekend. What's the whole point of Labor Day weekend is to kind of relax and get rejuvenated and then ready to attack the work week. Yeah, no one told Vanessa that. OK. We doubled booked us with Labor Day parties or as a birthday party on Saturday in Yenserville. Yeah. And then Sunday, our friends had a Labor Day party that went to the Wii hours. I mean, I was out till 10 o'clock at night.

3:05Yeah. And then yesterday, I just cooked a bunch of stuff that was set to expire. So, your voice tired, did they? What happened yesterday? Wasn't yesterday supposed to be rejuvenation and everything like that then? If you kind of just said, you just cooked. It's not like you cooked all day. I smoked all day. I smoked all day. Had some party ribs. Are we talking meats? We did some cowboy beans. We did some chicken. We did some steak. We made sure to get everything that was just about to go bad in and it was delicious. OK. But again, from 9 a.m. till 7 p.m., I was cooking. And at one of these days, I'm going to come in here. And you're going to give me something that isn't just you retired because of something that happened the previous day. One of these days, you're going to come in here. And you'll be like, I feel awesome. Let me explain all the energy I have instead of what it seems like every day. Where it's like, I'm tired for this reason or this reason. I think you just live life tired. Yes. Exactly. You just might live life tired. Yeah. The summer is when I actually have like Mojo. And I got that energy coming in at two o'clock. School season is when I am just a depleted human being.

4:06And oh, by the way, it's football season. So I am preparing to be depleted. Really until about February 15th this year. You get depleted thinking about being depleted. And that's the problem. I mean, it's depletion. It's total depletion. I get it. Listen, I get it. But all right. Well, it's not like you had a good weekend. No, that's good. That's nice. Yeah. Yeah. We had a good weekend. I felt like another one of those weekends where I just did like everything in the world and was out constantly. And then you look back and you're like, what did we do? All we went to the zoo. We went to different birthday parties. We did the same thing I do every weekend, which is find a million different activities with my kids and then go do them. Now because of all of this, because of the weekend, I will say this is going to feel like the most breakneck odd weekend. The week that we could have because obviously today is our Monday. Tomorrow, the NFL is back with the Patriots and Seahawks. For a lot of us out there, there's high school football on Thursday. Because of 9-11 on Friday, the kids still have school on Friday. And then we've got quite possibly the biggest matchup of the season.

5:09I was in Texas on Saturday. Can you explain this to me first? I was not a hip to this until it was the last week. I think some of you, have they always done high school football games on Thursday? I mean, when 9-11 falls on a Friday? I don't want to speak in absolutes. But I don't recall this from the last time 9-11 fell on a Friday. Okay. I think it might be because the importance of this year's anniversary being the 25th anniversary. I could be wrong on this fight. I'm fine with it, by the way. It's not like I have some big grudge against it. I didn't know if this was a thing that consistently happens or if this is brand new. Is what I'm trying to say. Yeah, I also, listen, I just like within the last like three or four years really got back into every Friday, going to Friday night lights. So that could also be wrong on this. But yeah, so the week is going to be a little chaotic, made more chaotic by Todd Monk and answering questions this weekend that, you know, we already knew that Shador Sanders and Taylor and Green were splitting kind of the scout team. The scout team wraps well. A new wrinkle here is that Todd Monk and is not ruling out that Taylor and Green could

6:13be the backup quarterback on Sunday. We're going to play some of this sound throughout the show. We're probably don't have time for right now, but it's interesting. I didn't have an immediate visceral reaction. This is something that I think is a massive risk. I understand what Monk and the Browns would be thinking here is that if you can get Taylor and Green on the, on the field for five to seven plays and one of those turns into a touchdown, that is worth having a guy that had about 10 snaps in with, in practice with the, with the ones that would be worth the risk of having him as your backup. I just don't know what's worth the risk. I'll, I'll believe it when I see it is where I'm at in this one. I, I don't believe that it's actually going to happen. I don't think they're going to carry three quarterbacks. And so if we believe that there's taking two quarterbacks, then I, I don't know how you could possibly start an NFL game with Taylor and Green as your backup quarterback. Like, like the, the idea that it's a Sean Watson who has been criminally injured throughout the time that he's been with the Browns, you would just, I mean, if you get centered on play too, that game is sunk.

7:13That game's done. It's over blouses. I mean, send it to the post game show. You can't operate an NFL team with that being the mentality. Yeah, you also, it's so to, to, to give to what you're saying. I do think there's, there's a chance that this is Gamesmanship from Todd Monkin that I think what is fresh in people's mind. If you've watched the Browns preseason tape is that Taylor and Green looked like an NFL athlete. He didn't necessarily look like an NFL quarterback in the preseason. But he looked like an NFL athlete that could give defenses a real problem. I can understand if he thinks, hey, let's put some tangible fear into Jacksonville's defensive coordinators head and just make him prepare for one more thing. That's all it is. Just make him prepare for one more thing. It feels very college football. Ask for being truthful about it, which is fine. Monkin has a lot of history in college football with winning national titles at Georgia. I just, I, there's no conceivable way that if they only go with two quarterbacks active and don't go with three. Now again, we, we talk about it. They go with three and then just keeps everybody on play and it is what it is. But if they go with two, I would be shocked beyond shocked if your plan is, if DeShon gets

8:16injured, Taylor and Green is going to come in the game and save the day. Yeah, this feels like one where if it works out in the pot, the Browns do tend to back themselves into these corners. I mean, even the DeShon Watson thing is the biggest example of this. But hey, if this works out, people are really going to respect what you do. And they're going to think you're soot sayers and future seers. And if it doesn't work out, oh, a pox on you and people are going to be really upset. Like the DeShon thing in itself is that thing. But like, all right, DeShon stays healthy. He plays reasonably well and Taylor and Green gets one touchdown. People are proclaiming Todd Monkin to be an absolute genius next Monday. But it's the Browns and if DeShon Watson, if you've pointed out, if he gets hurt, two plays in and Taylor and Green gets exposed for a guy who's not ready to be an NFL passer that is also where you lose an incredible amount of trust. Not just you'd be torched, not, but here's the thing, not just with fans. So by the players, I think in the locker room as well, you'd be torched. That is brain dead thinking to believe that you could just rely on Green in that spot

9:19for the next 60 plays offensively to make this whole thing hum. Like you would be, you'd be ending the game the moment that entry happens. And I just think that would be a grave, grave mistake by Todd Monkin. I also think like if you want to have tail in up for the game, you just have to find that case somewhere else. You do. If it was any, if this was Pat Mahomes, you, well, Mahomes is the bad case because it's coming off the, the, the knee injury. If this was Josh Allen, you and I don't have a problem with tail and green being the backup because the likelihood that tail and green would see the, the field is Nil. DeShon Watson's, honestly, he likes Stubbs his toe and somehow tears as a killing. I'll never done it in a brown uniform is get injured. Isn't the expectation people have? Is he there going to be bad or he's going to be injured, but he'll be one of them by week 10? Well, here's the other thing. And I'm glad you mentioned the expectation of DeShon being bad. You can't guarantee me that DeShon won't need benching in this game. The last time I saw DeShon Watson, he had to melt down on the field against third and

10:20fourth truck drivers for the guys who right now are like signing, signing, signing on to do like data entry jobs. That's the kind of guys that completely turned him into a, a cheap facsimile of the worst version of himself and Cleveland, by the way, not even a good version of himself. And then went out and took a torch light to Brown's fans. So you can't even tell me that there isn't a healthy chance, 10, 15% chance that DeShon won't even be able to make it past half time in this game. Well, I mean, I'd be surprised that it does feel like even if he looks like he did in the preseason game, they're just going to let him basically bury himself. But within that, there is that idea that DeShon himself might turn around at half time and be like, oh, Jesus, this isn't going very well. I need an escape plan. I need to figure something out. Oh, my hamstring, my hamstring, guys, it's acting up. All of a sudden, you need someone then in third quarter and it's tail and green. Is your answer? It just seems, it seems crazy to me. So, so most of, most of the logic part of my brain goes, well, this has to be like a game.

11:22They, they, it's the only thing that makes sense. He's just trying to make them study up and do more things with green, right? But the Browns have just had such a history of having, I mean, a massive set to do whatever they want in the logic involved. Sometimes they explain the, you know, logic is if we're the idiots for not seeing through it, sometimes Nick, you tell me in, in discussion, you'll be like, I think you just thought that one a little bit too much and I'm guilty of that. I'll just sometimes I'll, I'll take things further than I need to and I'll, I'll just think a little bit too much on what needs to happen in this scenario. It seems like the Browns thought a little bit too much of how they wanted to do this. But I'm sure to work out for it. It just seems like, like, sound it out. Just make it, make it make sense to anybody listening out there. Green or rookie is going to go ahead and be the guy that, if you take it in the sixth round, is going to be the guy that's going to come in place for De Shahn Watson. If all of a sudden he has an injury and you feel, everyone feels really good about that. No, the game is over. The moment that De Shahn Watson would have an injury and you might as well just ship it to the post game show, like you cannot possibly rely on that as logical thinking.

12:24And you can't start De Shahn under the guys of it gives us the best chance to win and then have Shadour not be the backup. De Shahn needs a parachute. Yes. He is the type of quarterback that needs a parachute. He's the type of guy that you need to make sure that you got a checks and balance system set up and everything's all fine. And he's given you no reason to believe that he's starting that thing and playing all 60. I understand the risk versus reward at the idea, but if they're seriously thinking about it, I don't think the reward is worth it. Well, I think anybody that makes our 53 man roster, you're looking at on a given game day, could reutilize their skill set, the given chance to win. He calls in that category. We saw a little of that in training camp, certainly saw it on his video from the past in college and saw the place he made against the Patriots. So at least gives us a little bit of a part. Oh, maybe we can utilize some of that early in the season. Todd Munkin, the maximizer on with the morning boys earlier today, if you guys missed that.

13:26It's like 75 different ways you can listen to the damn interview. Do it. Okay. But interesting thought there on whether we could see tail and green this Sunday. Again, I'm not, I'm not against the kid being on the roster. I am against him as the backup because it really is as much as, and I think this is where you and I differ. I think you and I are in some potaco that the idea of Dishon getting injured in this game is on the table. The burden of proof for Dishon just a healthy is on Dishon and it is on the Browns. I really am thinking if he goes out there and he craters, he being Dishon Watson, if Todd Munkin's really about winning, you better have a decent backup bullet to fire in this case. And that has to be Shadour because Shadour was the other guy in the quarterback competition, not tail and green. Did I miss the part where we differed? Oh, I thought just from the fact that I think Dishon has to be on the table for Sunday. Oh, okay. It's incredibly ugly. Yeah, I think they're going to make him eat it that way.

14:27I think if he stinks, they're just going to make him, they're going to stick his head in the mud and they're just going to say you put yourself in this filth. And I'll enjoy it essentially. I don't think that they're going to get a pay extra for that. Yeah, I don't think they're going to give him the escape hatch that way. I really do. I'd be surprised by that. But it's more about injury for myself then. But it's also just the idea you have to have a backup plan and your backup plan cannot be a rookie quarterback that you didn't really trust throughout any of this process. I also think I think it puts tail in in a really tough position. An incredibly tough position. It sets him up to fail. Yeah, I mean, listen, he's kind of got this sweet spot right now where nobody has any expectations for him, but Brown's fans are enthralled with the upside of him. You can, you can do the package play thing, which they should do, by the way, they should. When you have the offense built the way it is, you're going to need every playmaker out there possible. I look at tail and green is like tight and four. I look at him as like wide receiver seven or running back four much more than I do QB

15:28two right now. And I think if you put him in QB two, the expectations will be unfair to him. And that and honestly, I think he'll also get a little bit of blame of Dishon. I just don't want that for that kid. How bad will well give Munkin just decides he wants three active quarterbacks on game day? I mean, the Saints did it for a million years, obviously, with Tess and Hill. I went and I was checking around. I last year I know the Seahawks did it with Jaylen Milroy for like three out of the first four weeks. They had him because they wanted to him with certain packages is at the worst look. I'm not in favor of it, by the way, but is that the worst look to you of Munkin? It was a little rogue here and it's three active quarterbacks in order to get Taylen in there. No, no, at least you're setting yourself up in a better way that way. Yeah. And listen, you probably should have three quarterbacks for everything that I just said about Dishon because if Dishon has to be sat in a game or if Dishon gets injured in a game, you're going to need a decent backup for Shadora as well. The unofficial depth chart is out, by the way. Shadora is listed as QB two. Jaylen Green is listed as QB three. We'll see where that might lead us.

16:30Let's go with Ross in Lorraine. Ross, welcome to the show. What you got for us. Hey, I just wanted to call about the situation with Payne when possibly being the number two. That would be because of a substitution rule that doesn't allow the number three quarter back to go into the game before the fourth quarter. And if he does, the one and two listed quarterbacks are now in eligible. If they had Payne and listed as the two, it would be so he could go in, run Wildcat type stuff. And then come out without making Dishor ineligible. Right. Dishor should do it. The problem with that Ross is that in that instance, you would need then Dishon and Taylen both to get injured before Shadora could actually play if he is in fact the emergency quarterback. No, Shadora could play. It would just make Taylen with the Wildcat package ineligible. So you would lose that package of plays, but Shadora could go in in the event that Dishon got hurt. All right, Ross. You would lose the Wildcat stuff. Are you describing it as? Are you describing it as Taylen as the two and then Shadora is the emergency quarterback? Because your understanding of it and my understanding is not the same.

17:31If you're trying to make Shadora the emergency quarterback. Yes, I'm saying if Kaylen were listed as the two and Shadora was the emergency quarterback, not active, but emergency quarterback. No, I'm saying active. Okay, that's different. That's a different conversation. That's not really what we were going down in any sort of way. We're discussing right now the idea of if you just had two active quarterbacks and that was Monkton's way of thinking about it. Activating three is something we brought up earlier in the segment. The segment, but I think we all agreed, doesn't seem the likeliest. Right, but I'm saying in the event to activate three, that is how you would go about it. If you wanted a Wildcat package to have that Wildcat package with a guy who's not ready to be the number two, you would have to go about it listing it as the number two understanding is truly not the backup. All right, Ross. We appreciate you. Still not worth it. From this standpoint, again, if DeShawn gets hurt on the second play and then Taylan has to play quarters one, two, and three, because you don't want to, you know, be down to one

18:36quarterback, you want to activate your emergency quarterback early, that still just doesn't feel like the great sport. Right, but he was saying three were active in general though. That's different than the emergency quarterback. We've shoved this up itself here. All right. The other big thing. It's different. It's just different. It's this kind of nuance that makes me cross-eyed in a little cagey on a Tuesday, but it's really a Monday. All right. You guys covered it though. I'm proud of you both. Ross more than you. I knew you had it on lock. Yeah. Yeah. Now, another thing that happened this weekend was Todd Monkin announcing that they were going to do instead of season captains, they were going to do different captains every week. So alternating captains, I hear was Monkin from yesterday talking about the week one captains. Jacksonville, we're going to have Rex as our special teams. DeShawn, Zion and offense, Tyson and Mason. Those will be our five captains for this week. So with that, you know, I lost my mind at the idea that DeShawn Watson will be a season

19:38long, you know, captain for this team. Yeah. You're not thrilled with that idea. I'm still not thrilled with him being a captain at all, but at least this makes more sense to me. The idea of, well, DeShawn might not be our quarterback in three weeks. So why do we go ahead and put captaincy on him? I just, I thought people looked a little bit deeper into it than it needed to be. I think if he thought to Sean was going to be the starter all year long, I still think he would have taken this approach. Do you want to know why? Why is that? Because this approach that John Harboss taken when he was with Baltimore, Todd Monkin was there in Baltimore as well. Now, you notice Jesse Minner does not have that same approach. Minner immediately named Omar Jackson a captain and had five captains in total and then also has this like captain council that adds five more. It's a whole thing. Yeah. So that is beyond just being named the game day, the game day captain year. There's 10 technical captains that the Ravens are trying to have, but only five represent on game day. It's odd. It's very odd. But the point is when Harboss was there with Monkin, Harboss did week by week captaincy. And one of the things that Harboss always credited on this was that idea for like, for

20:39instance, week one against Jacksonville, Tyson Campbell can be a captain because he used to play for Jacksonville and the game is going to mean a lot for him. And so it's like, it just lets you do that. But I really don't think this was anything about Deshaun Watson or lack of belief in Deshaun Watson. I genuinely just believe this is okay. Monkin when he was in Baltimore saw Harboss do this. This is how Harboss operates. And I'm going to take that here and move it to the brouts. I know. It's funny because my initial thought was what you're saying is overthinking it. And then I did look down to Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh is also going to be doing the same thing under Mike McCarthy. So I guess maybe that's another death nail in the argument that this is about Deshaun. Yeah. I mean, we're seeing it more and more. It's not the predominate way of doing it across the NFL, but the chiefs for doing something like this last year, there's there's several teams that operate this way. I just think it's the Harboss influence of this all. So more, more teams in the AFC North and not are going to operate this way. Now what I think is going to be interesting is if every week Deshaun is the starting quarterback if he's a captain. But again, by doing this, it does take that conversation because we'll have to check

21:40in every week and be like, Deshaun's a captain. It's like auto default, right? Unless in less, if Deshaun has a week where he isn't captain, that'll stand out. Yeah. But I do like he's a for captain for the first three weeks and then week four, he just isn't, that'll stand out in a very interesting way. So I mean, I guess Todd Munkins, let's actually play Todd Munkins explanation on why he's doing weekly captains, which we'll get to here in a moment. Just a second. Oh, Mark. Oh, you are not defeating new Mac. It's not known for the legs. What happened to you? You're having a perfect show. You really were, Michael. It's okay. You're defeated now. Let's go ahead and play that Munkins out. Well, I think it's really cool. I think the teams I've been around, there's more than just a handful of leaders on your team. I believe that. I believe there is a great number of leaders on our team. And I want to reward guys weekly for how they've done the past game a given week in terms of how they prepared. I also think if this season really is about evaluation, one of the things actually do

22:45like about this other than the fact that I have to watch, DeShawn Watson walk out there with the sea on his chest, that will bug me infinitely from now on. The guy could have you in the playoffs this year. And I still would just think, I don't know about it. But I do like if it's week by week, do they actually put the sea on the jersey? It's Velcro. It's Velcro and they just say, I might, but generally might be. It might be just a Velcro thing that they just kind of just just that's on and then it just as it's supposed to stay on. Maybe it's maybe it's taken off halfway through the game. Why don't we do what do we do quarter by quarter? Well, you can just take it. I'm going to move it over here. So that past cost me my captain's. That's true. That was a bad pass. I'm going to go ahead and I, hey, Rex Sumahara, give that captain C1 over to somebody that actually matters. Or maybe, hey, long snappers matter of all the, you'd be pissed about the special teams getting a captain designation. There's the thing, long snappers are football players. They're just old tight ends. That's all they are. Or, or linebackers. I've seen linebackers do the conversion too. That's way more of a football player than a kicker or a punter.

23:46Okay. But we're going to have a kicker and a punter and be at it some point. Then I will rage. It's like one day special team or a week. My only special team is every special team. Every special team. Every special teamer is going to get it. I want, I want, I want son Harra. That's my favorite guy. Is that right? That's I call him sonny. It's just a nickname thing you would get. There's no end in his name. I want it is now. Malakai Corley. I want him to get a little captain seat. Uh, uh, uh, Tyler Wallace. Yeah, I want you to get one. They're gonna. Whoever the fifth linebacker is. That guy leads like you like a kicker never could leave. They're gonna. That's the, they're going to get that. Now that being said, I do like the idea of basically guys getting done to pressure-free try on a captain seat and then see how it feels. Because I do think there are some guys who that elevate. I'll spit at the store. Yes, it is. I do think there are some guys. I can't see fence. You should purchase that kind of stuff elevates or breeds life into another guy. Maybe we don't think care. Maybe we need a captain seat council. Maybe maybe the Ravens at the right idea.

24:47Maybe we need to give a whole council of guys. But I want to sit on the, I want to, I want to be like the prevailing yes or no guy. Okay. And then every time it'd be like, all right, what about Andre Schmidt? I don't think so. I don't think I'm bringing another day. Okay. What about the Horcus? What's Sonny doing these days? No? Or like what's he, is he still here? It just feels like, it feels very, again, I think people want to make a big deal about all this and it just feels very, it feels very hardball. And that's all right. And that's perfectly fine. There's going to be a lot of things that he adopts from Baltimore that I think we just kind of have to accept. It also is convenient for what he's trying to go for for this season. We can agree on that. Very convenient the idea that he's going to have more likely than not. I don't know, multiple quarterbacks this year and he's just kind of set up a system where Deshaun Watson doesn't have to be the season long two quick hits. From the latest news and rumors around the sports world to the sound bites you need to hear. It's quick hits. All right. On North Carolina head coach Bill Belicek was asked about the resignation of GM Mike Lombardi

25:49in these serious allegations being laid at the feet of multiple members of this organization, including giving drugs to players. Talk to him. You know, you're going to step down and made the investigation. Your son's on medical leave and made questions from investigators about. I had to understand where to keep asking those questions. I can't speak about that. Sorry, but we've already talked about it. Just the question then would just be what indications do we have based on the last year and everything that's been reported that you have control of this program? I don't think it's, I mean, if you're around here every day, I think it's it. And I think he is around there every day. But did Belicek handle this the right way? It was good questions. It was good follow ups. Belicek just did what Belicek does. He's always done. He just barely, he basically didn't even didn't even answer it and just tried to give a generic platitude to then get out of it. I thought the last one, you know, like basically what have you shown that you have control over this thing? I think you can tell. Like that's as close to rattled as I've heard Bill Belicek.

26:51I think Belicek knows. I think he's got to win like nine or 10 games this year. I think he really needs to have a surprising season or he's cooked because I, I think when this stuff happens this early in a run, it tells me the calls coming from within the house. I mean, there's just a lot that's going on right now. It's funny. It almost seemed like he has a different perception and everything just because he won a game in Ireland. Yeah. And it's like hold on. They pump the brakes a little bit there. You won one football game. I get it. It went very different than it did last year at this time. So congratulations, but you are far from achieving everything that you said you would. I mean, you, they're probably going to start 2 and 0. They've got kind of a cupcake, a cupcake game coming up this weekend. But I think that's on the road and Clemson a week after you win that Clemson game. And I do wonder if some of that, I hate to be cynical about that. But it is generally the way things work in college football. All right. Kyle Shanahan is still getting used to Australia.

27:51And he had an interesting exchange. See, he took his team there very early. It's going to be part of the debates coming up here. Here we go. We did a totally normal routine. I'm not sure because we're, like I said, we're a little confused with when I look at my clock and it says the time and then I try to see my family's time and it says the time, but it says yesterday. I don't even get how that's possible. So I feel like I'm in the future. And then also when we play on our Friday, which I think is the Thursday in the US, we're such creatures of habit. So I call it the day Tuesday. All right. No wait, sorry, I called today Wednesday, which is the first day we put in a game plan. But I think it's Monday, however though it's Sunday and the present. So like, I'm going to mess that up all week if you guys asked me. But today is just our first day of the game plan, which is a Wednesday. We'll put in some on a Thursday. Friday is the final part of the game plan. Saturday we walked in when we play on Sunday, which is a Friday in Australia on a Thursday in the US. So don't ever make me do that again. If you've faced out for a second, it just sounded like you said a lot of days. But he was accurate. He was accurate and how he described everything. The big discussion today across the NFL world was did they do this right getting there

28:52a week earlier than the game, letting his team kind of settle in and do everything and adjusted. Meanwhile, the Rams, Nick, the Rams are getting in and in a 70 hour span are going to be flying in and leaving. So they'll 30 hours of travel time in the air in 70 hours. They're basically seal team six. They're coming in. They're coming out and they're not really doing anything else. Yeah, I do. It's interesting how I think a lot of football and a lot of sports in general revolves around a lot of group thing. But despite everybody having pretty much the same information, teams handle this kind of international travel wildly different. And I actually think the 49ers are doing it better than the Rams. I think the Rams are taking a real risk here and having your players just completely beat up and jet lagged. Whereas I think the Niners players, it's going to be about as normal as you can possibly be leading up to the game. It doesn't matter, but in a game where everyone's always looking for an edge, I think the 49ers have the edge here. Nobody really knows obviously because we don't have enough data and enough to find out exactly

29:53what the right mentality is. But how Vegas is perceiving this if you allow me, Vegas believes that the 49ers are doing this the right way and they'll be better for week one. The problem and this is what is arise out of this is that they feel like the long term benefits of this are very, very much in favor of the Rams and taking his team and doing this the way he's doing in San Francisco. They believe that the long term effects are going to be pretty drastic all things considered. To tongue of I low has been named the Falcons week one starting quarterback Cooper Rush will be the backup Michael Penex Jr. will be an active as he works his way back from injury. We have this conversation and Cleveland will have it here. What is to his leash? When is when his panic is actually ready to go? I haven't seen anything but because he's actually on the active roster. He's just not going to be active for the game itself. Yeah. I'm trying to figure out. I'm trying to figure out though if he's like a hundred percent ramped up if he's 80 percent ramped up if he's whatever that number is whenever whenever panics is actually 100 percent.

30:53That's when I would say the leash is is exhausted for and he's got to end to was got to actually perform. See, it's interesting because Kevin Stofansky up until the last two years actually had some good September. I used to jokingly call him Mr. September. Obviously the last couple of years not so much. We don't have to talk about it. I think there's a chance that the Falcons are actually okay early. This looks to me like a wheels fall off. Once you have another edge rush or go down or a number of another member of the defensive line goes down or if you lose B-john or one of your starting wide receivers. I actually think it's a little bit longer. I would expect to it has the first month of the season. I don't think I can guarantee you the fifth game but I think I can guarantee you the first three or four games. Yeah, I just I think the I just I think it all comes down to panics and so he was finally cleared for 11 on 11. That was a couple weeks ago. Man, that was a couple weeks ago. But he got six full team practices before I landed made his week one decision. Got six like I just it's it's going to be tough.

31:54I think you read on its accurate. I think four seems right but I think it's all based off of panics. I think there's so much heavily more invested into whether panics can do something or can't do something this year than they are two. I don't know if officially locked it in but I'm locking it in right now on air. The Falcons will have a higher draft pick than the Browns this year. It might end up being picks two and pick three. I am pretty confident the Falcons are going to be one of the four worst teams in the NFL this year. Yeah, I mean, everything suggests that there is going to be an absolute disaster for them. I don't know. I don't know. I don't you know, I just don't trust a fan ski. So there's just no there's no part of me that is there's no crocodile tears for us to fan ski in this crew. It's just it is funny. I think it's a realisation that a lot of people are now having a bike. Wait, he went from really bad quarterback situation to another bad quarterback situation. Yeah, but you can't feel bad for him guys. So if I ask you chose this, he chose the Falcons. He had a lot of jobs. Apparently had a bunch of jobs and everyone was trying to give him. He chose the Falcons. He chose this and like he's together ran Baker out. Yeah, sorry. I shouldn't say that because that's entirely his part of the crew. I think if Kevin wanted to keep Baker here, he would have kept Baker here.

32:56I remember the plan on that. I felt less accused of touring today. Show had Mike Tomlin on and Mike Tomlin gave a today. How about that? I would have been awkward if it was like yesterday actually it was a long weekend guys. No, that was a day happened today and he shared a secret about himself that many people don't know. I'm a big Minecraft because my kids work and and so how do I connect with them? I started playing Minecraft man when when my kids were young. I have a Minecraft city and I'm creative man that I've been working on for like 12 years. Still. 12 years. But we've been talking recently about sharing it with the world. Okay, I probably isn't interested for this. How disappointing would that be if Tomlin as dedicated as he is spent 12 years on something that food is just awful? That's actually funnier to me. It was just so man. Minecraft people are like, oh this is really bad. Yeah. Well, no, this isn't good at all. Yeah, this guy sucks at Minecraft. That would make him incredibly human. But would you be I do you like it more if he's just awesome at that too or would you turn

34:00around and be like, oh, I see why the Steelers never got to play off win 10 years. I probably wouldn't understand if he had a good Minecraft world like my kids play Minecraft and they they show me like the houses or the worlds they build all the time and I'm like, who I don't get it. I mean, I understand it. It's like Sim City, but yeah, I got it's very similar to that, but also like it's less interesting than Sim City to me, but in like block form. Yeah, I'm not like 12 years old anymore. So like I already my eyes kind of glaze over when they're telling me all the things that their their houses or villages have. Tom and God hooked though. Yeah, I kind of like that. I got to say, so between this, he's also been a part of a couple of the TikToks that they've done the TikToks. No, the TikTok videos. Just don't be that guy. Don't be that guy. Not on a Tuesday. It feels like a Monday. The TikToks. But he he's showing some personality. I did not think he had it in. I thought he was going to be full Bella check and he has been better at this than I thought he would be so far. Now we'll see how it goes once the actual games get underway. Is it all right for adults to like Minecraft the way that he does?

35:03Is that okay? Is that okay? I really don't know. My nephew loves Minecraft. He's 10. I don't know anything else outside of when I visit him. He likes to show me his world and that's it. I think I think the thing that has stopped me from getting into Minecraft is it's just so immersive and there's so much to learn. Okay. And honey badger don't have that kind of time. Love the idea of him going and seeing the Jack Black movie and loving it. Like Tom. He just screener chicken. Yes. Just loving every minute. He's got his popcorn in hand. He's like chicken back. The guy. Yeah. It's really, really funny to me. It's a big bad ass football guy that is just dedicated his life to that dedicated to Minecraft. Oh, this won't be a full one here. Today is the 19th anniversary of an SMI first day. How about that? It's like that, that blows my mind that it's possible. I could have been with somebody for like five years and they haven't left me at let alone 19 years and three kids and we're I was thinking about it and she's like, what were you thinking going into like our first date?

36:03It's a very cute thing this morning and I was like, don't screw it up. Like, okay. I, I, I, you were a pretty blonde girl. I was like pretty much just trying not to blow myself up the first day. So the first, so we actually met at a shopping center in Kent went putt putting quickly realized that we were both so nervous. We did 18 holes in about 15 minutes. Yeah, you can speed through putt putt and then we were like, all right, let's go see a movie and I was like, I want to see super bad. Not a great date movie for your first date, by the way, because also Vanessa was a little more shelter than I was even coming out of college. I laughed loudly at every inappropriate thing in that movie and she wasn't there yet. And so I tried really, I even double pumped in the first kiss. I even did that because I double pumped. I went to go in for the first kiss and like a dragonfly flew like it dove. It swandled. You've been blaming this dragonfly for 19 years. Vanessa wanted to just wanted a second kiss.

37:04Vanessa will attest and I kind of I I I'm up to I'm up to hell. I go, but I smirked and said let me try that one again. She asked for a retune and she melted. Yeah, when I say she melted boys, I don't know about that. I hear me snatched victory from the jaws of defeat 19 years later. He tried that. All because I had the gabagool to say, let me try that one again. Or she's like, oh, wow, he doesn't need some, he needs some practice, doesn't he? He needs, he needs to practice. Oh, I can, I can mold this one. I was surprised you remember the first date, day, I don't, I don't have that. I know it was sometime in October. I have no idea what the first day today was. Streets are saying it's because I love my wife more. I, I just, I don't know the date. I at least knows the date. I'm sure I think it's easy. It's one day before my brother's birthday. That's a nice way to remember. The dates are really easy. Our, our anniversary is in May and every May one of us is gets dangerously close to forgetting the actual wedding anniversary.

38:05But happy anniversary, I love my wife. My wife.