Hour 1: Our weekly interview with Lions QB Jared Goff.

0:00all well all you can men having as well and you uh... uh... yet to go good-long will last weekend before So you think so? Yeah, let's just say it was a long weekend. And it was great because my best friend was in town from California and he was in Chicago for business and decided, hey, why not stop over in Detroit and then he commenced his wife to fly in from LA at the same time. So they were coming in on Thursday, different times. And then of course the storms come. So his flight from Chicago was delayed by at least three hours

1:01before he was finally up in the air. You know, they were waiting on the, they were taxing in the runway for a while and then they had to come back and fuel up again because they said, yeah, wait, the circle, the Detroit a few times with the storms, she ended up coming in before he did at seven o'clock at night. But that was cool. So nonetheless they came in and then we got things started Friday and just got the festivities going for the whole weekend wanting to do all things Detroit and see all different types of things. Went to the football game on Saturday night. So I saw you and John saw Greg from the morning show then we went to the casino on Sunday. And you saw Brandy. I did see the brand at. No, I always love seeing Jim Brands there. Went to the riverfront on Sunday and then went to the casino. That was fun because my friend's wife was fun to gamble with because she gets so excited really. She, yay. It's like a legitimate yay when she says it. She would hit my buddy in the arm when he won and say, yay.

2:03And then the guy next to her won and she hit him in the arm and then, oh, it's decided me to hit you. But that was fun. And then we went to the baseball game on Monday. Great time. Let's see, they had the conies. We got everything in. We went to the cider mill. I think we got everything Detroit that you can get in. You do the pizza? We had buddy's pizza. Yeah. We did get pizza. Nice. Better made chips. No chips, no chips. No fego. Did not get fego. No. Middle Eastern food. With the baseball game, she got a swarmable. There you go. All right. Ride the queue line or the people mover. We did not, but when we were at the riverfront, we got my friend Gaiastic. The people were still going, it is. And then it passed over as literally as we were saying it. Always exciting. Yeah. So we got them all in there. It was a lot of fun. Excellent. Good. Now you left the Michigan game early. Oh, yeah.

3:04You didn't miss anything. No. Anything happened? At any time Gator leaves the Michigan game early. Something's going to happen. Something's going to happen. Trouble with the snap, I believe, was the other one you left early. Oh, did I? Yeah. I don't know the thing I've it. Yes. Yeah, no, but this is the plan all along. We knew we were going to leave around half time anyway. And I was at the press box. My friends were in seats. And really, they just wanted to go for the experience for a little bit of it. And see what we tailgated for a couple of hours beforehand. And then one into the game. And then we decided we're going to go. But yeah. So I was telling the morning show, when we were driving back, my friends would say, hey, let's get some conies. So we went to Leo's. And we're following along the finish of the game on my phone on the game cast. So it wasn't video. Didn't know. And then I'm just watching the show final, you know, 12 to 10, final score. Like, okay, or whatever it was. Yeah, it was never 12 to 10. So what was it?

4:0412 9? It would have been 12 7. You're right, my bet. I'm not with that. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It literally says final. I went to look at another app for some stats, whatever, like, okay, final. And then all hell breaks loose. Start getting, I start getting text messages for my friends, my Spartan friends who are loving the fact that the Michigan look like they were going to lose. And like, okay, here we go. Here we go. And then all of a sudden the text comment, oh no. What? What's this? Oh, that's crap. And I'm like, what's going on? So I immediately go to Twitter. And I'm trying to find something on Twitter. And then eventually, finally, the first video comes out and like, oh boy. And all I could think of, all I could think of Doug was you. And you and I, and we talk about this all the time with the Michigan-Mishican State game. Please, whatever it is, just no controversy. Please, just not that. Anything but controversy. I never thought for a second that we would have to use

5:05that phrase when it came to a Michigan and Western Michigan game. And yet, there it was. Conflicts are all right. I mean, I'm sure not everybody heard, but this is literally, I'm a huge, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm so sick. I mean, so sick of all the length, Kiffin BS. I'm so sick of all of college footballs, workings. Like the, the, the mechanics of the game now. I just want the games. Well, maybe love college football makes me love college, makes me love football is just the games, right? And you know, these, these jobs include a lot of talk about the other, other stuff. And there's so much more other stuff than there ever used to be. And literally, this is my, my pregame open. It's been a long 248 days since we last saw Michigan play a football game. In those 248 days, too much controversy, too much talk about injunctions, TROs and judges' rulings. But today we're back in our lane. It's all about the football. And it didn't last one f in game.

6:06Didn't last one game. Not one, not one. Not even one. Yeah. It's something that has been talked about and talked about and talked about. And I don't know if it's over. It's, it feels like it might be Western presented their case to the NCAA to appeal the result. The NCAA said, yeah, we can't do that. And so even though they're going to change the rule. Right. And they are going to change the rule. And the question is, are they changing the rule to make it better or worse? There's something that's uniform now. But we get into it. We got the college football blitz thingy. But I mean, the big 10 basically went out and adopted the best system there is. And now they're not going to be able to use it. The system, the big 10 adopted is what the NFL uses. It's the best available, a Hawkeye system. And apparently now they won't be able to use it if they indeed follow through on this because not every conference has the Hawkeye system.

7:08And the big 10 just filed the NFL's lead. And you would have to imagine the NFL. I mean, if there's something better, let's roll with it. That's what the NFL uses. Jared Goss going to join us at 1030. We've got to tell a story. Because people who listen to yesterday's show, this is hysterical. Let me tell you something. When Mike Stone is in, you never know what's going to happen. As you know, facts. Yeah. He's the best. Yeah, and I always say this. Please don't ever change. Don't change. Yesterday I told a story and I'd want to know what you would do in this scenario. I came to a red light on my way to work. I was the second car. Car in front of you. There was a car in front of me. We're waiting for the red light. The vehicle in front of me, the light turns green. And it doesn't move. How long do you give that person? Was the first question. Three seconds. Three seconds.

8:08Good job, Gator. I said three seconds. Stoney said 10 seconds. I've had too many lights. We're 10 seconds. Our light is back in the red. Yeah, exactly. Absolutely not. Need a full. So I'm a gracious three seconds. Let me add. And probably listen three. Let me add another variable. The person in front of you is a police officer. Is there answer the same? Is there answer the same? Or do you give it a little more time? It's the same. Okay. See, I don't even honk. I didn't either. I just sat there. I was like, whatever. It's a respectable little tap. It's that's all. Yeah. I'm not like, we got it. We're not even doing that. One of the things you think about when you do that is, come on, fly a point. We gotta go. I'm sitting there thinking, are my tabs updated? Yeah, and they're updated. To my tail lights were. Listen, that's actually something I would have thought of years ago, because I've been caught a couple times without proper tabs. Well, I'm sitting there at the light

9:10and I'm thinking to myself, all right, my car is fully compliant with all standard regulations. But I just let it go. It was probably seven, eight seconds of cop drove it. Oh my. Oh yeah. I just sat down. I'm not kidding. You know, Doug, are you thinking, is it illegal to honk at a cop? Let him know like he doesn't want any of that, any part of that is like, I'm out. I'm fully convinced that there is a law. Yep. Or there was a law that was put in place that morning. It would, I would break it. And so I just sat like, I'm not, I'm not gonna. Seven or eight seconds. Yep. Can you couldn't hold out that one? I do. I think I would. Oh my God. That's a cop, man. I don't know. And I know what you're saying, get of course if we do honk it's a little beep. Just a quick. Yeah. I gotta practice my technique with a quick polite. Real quick. Yeah. I'm assuming he's like doing some real important police work. That's why he's taking a stop. Oh, I'm not. Nobody's doing that at a stop like that. You never know. We got constant. We're trying to figure out word.

10:10No, maybe. But anyways, after the showgator, I leave the station. And I pull out here, right? You know, you, uh, rainfront of us. Yeah. It was a light right out by our office. And it's red. I've stopped. Then turns green. It's a car in front of me. There's a car in front of me. One car. One car doesn't move. And I'm like, oh my God, this is happening. It's not a police car. It's a regular car. And I wait the three seconds like you and I do right. And I get a little beep, beep. Guy looks up. Goes. Okay, no big deal. Yeah. Uh, there's two lanes in the next lane or that we turn into. I pull up next to this person and I look over in a stony. It's the police. I don't know. It's a stony. Oh, man. I look over and he's looking down again. You pull up to a red light. I'm like, stony. You didn't just thought you'd come off the phone. Get off the phone. Get off the phone. So the light turns green and you drive away.

11:13And stony still sits there. It's too light. So the first light where there's only one lane. Stony in front of Kag doesn't go. But he didn't know. You didn't know. No, I didn't know. It's only I just thought, oh my God, the scenario just happened. Right now we just talked about it. So then you get to where there's two lanes and you look over and it's stony. I mean, my phone rang on the drive home. Dude, you're not going to believe this. I'm like, what? He goes, so drive it home. Tell me what happened. I'm like, that is incredible. That's stony in that show. That is stony in a nutshell. Perfect. Hey, Jared Goff, the quarterback is going to join us today at 1030. It's Carson Anderson. We got open lines. It's our first of our weekly conversations. Yesterday we debuted Aiden Hutchinson, who will be with us every Monday throughout the season.

12:14Today we got Goff, who will be with us moving forward every Tuesday. It gets a little wonky with Monday night games and Thursday games, but essentially once a week we'll have these guys on Carson Anderson, 971. The gosh, Scott Anderson 971, open lines 248, 539, 97, 97, Jared Goff coming up today at 1030. Oh, and by the way, we're open to this. If there's any really good question, you'd like to us to ask Jared Goff, text it over. Kangles, sift the room, and if any good, Kang, if any good ones come through, we afford them to us. Yeah, so there's any specific questions. Now I will tell you that we might reward them, but I always am interested. Do we really have a finger on the pulse of what the public wants to hear? Are we asking the questions they want to hear? And if not, what are we missing? So if you got something you want us to ask the quarterback 248, 539, 97, 97,

13:16let's go to Matt, you're on 971. Good morning, Matt. Hey, good morning, guys. So a question for Goff. What's the hit in golf? Because I know he plays golf a lot. What's the score? I'm very interested to see how good he is. Second, your cop story. I have no patience, so I probably would have waited like literally one second and laid into the horn because I don't care. The light's green, that means go. For the Lions, I don't know what their favorite buy. I think it's what six and a half. I'm taking Canada ask because I think they're going to win by double digits. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What kind of number are you going to like, what is your return on laying 10 and a half? I don't know. I've been placed to get, but I'm just I'm going to I'm going to place it later, but I'm going to take 10 and a half. Saucy, I like it. Yeah. I'm very cocky about my team this year. And then I know it's not going to happen.

14:17What if LSU is kicked out of the SEC? Are they welcome in the big time? No. I would know that I wouldn't want any part of them. I got to tell you, I'm cool with the big 10, everything being quiet around the big 10 for a few weeks. So I hope they don't start according LSU. Oh, you're cute asking for weeks. Yeah. I've the goals have dropped significantly. First of all, and we'll hit this in the college football questions. I do not think LSU is going to get kicked out of the southeastern conference with their most recent announcement. The SEC, according to Ross Dillinger, college football insider Yahoo, he said that the SEC was every bit for real about kicking them out. And this wasn't about anything other than we need to maintain authority over the member institutions.

15:19If one of those institutions is willingly going to say, no, we're going to put these former training camp cuts on our roster, even though we've just made a conference rule that was voted on and adopted. We'll kick you out. And so I think it was an effective threat because LSU put in their final final this time. We really mean it roster and those two guys are not. I think it was effective. So they're not going to get kicked out. No, but it was a real threat. It was a very real threat, a very real threat. I mean, given a special. Yep. And we got a question about them and the football questions that just over an hour. I took off coming up here in a minute. What are you thinking about this offense this year? Are you are you thinking that the old line is going to be able to do what is necessary to have them? Play it a Super Bowl caliber. I do.

16:20Because I thought the old line, even though last year we made out of thought it was all that great. They still had, you know, go off still through for 4,500 yards. Had this 34 touchdown passes. Yeah, Jimi or Gibbs go off for over 1200 yards in Montgomery over 700 yards. The Rand for over 2000 yards as a team and four and a half yards per carry. All those numbers are still there. They still put up lots of points. The offense is going to be fine. In fact, I expect the offensive line to be better than it was last year. At some point, I don't know if it'll be better from day one. But I think at some point this year we're going to say, wow, it's better and perhaps even a lot better. But we may have to wait and see on. Is that only happen with Kaden Maze or is this happen with your Scruggs? We'll find out soon enough with with your Scruggs. But keep in mind that this guy's only been really practicing for a few weeks too. Because of his injury suffered in training camp early on with the soft tissue issue. But I do have confidence that the offense is going to be just fine.

17:23Expectations, you can have grand expectations, you can have lower expectations. Or you can have what where I try to keep it reasonable expectations. Sometimes probably get a little trustee and fair guilty as charged. I would say that last year's offensive line probably operated at a B-C plus type of level where they didn't feel like the malling group when they were in their heyday with young Penaisou and Ragnar in the middle and Decker on the other side. Losing Ragnar in Decker is not nothing. But if they were a B-C plus, they would have to take a significant step backwards for me to think they weren't competing at a Super Bowl level. Because the question was, can they compete at a Super Bowl level? The Lions last year averaged 28.3 points a game. The two Super Bowl contenders averaged 28.4 and 28.8 points a game.

18:24So the Lions were one tenth of a point behind Seattle over the course of the season. The difference was two points. The Patriots were 28.8 points. The difference was nine points. They scored nine more points in the Lions and the 17 game regular season. The Lions would have to take a significant step backwards up front for this offense to... I think to not produce at the same level. And that's provide... What else did they lose offensively? They get La Porta back. Jameel and Jameer Gibbs are points in their career where they could take off. That's St. Brown's already there. Yes. So which means if that offensive line operates at the same level as a year ago, I actually expect the offense to be better. I'll give you another factor of why we're an area they have to improve as an offensive line. They got to protect the quarterback better. Jared Goff was sacked 38 times last year that was eighth most in the National Football League. And for a guy that you know, not going to win here is going to play every game.

19:26You got to keep him upright. And I think moving soil over to the left side should help that out. But if they could get that number knockdown from say 38 to 28, you're talking that he's being protected very well in terms of the top third in the league. So if they can improve there, that's going to be better. Because obviously Jared Goff is a guy who stays in the pocket and will throw... Wait until the last second before he delivers that pass. When we talked to Jason Garrett, that was one of the things he said about him. He was very impressive back in college and how tough he was to wait for the play to develop before... You know, he didn't rush things. And the game is slow down enough for him where he can do that here at this level too. So I think that and the emergence of James and Williams, what he has done this off season and getting ready for this season and what he did in training camp. And I think I'm going to take more chances down field. I think James is going to be a big part of that. And when he's not, I think it's going to give opportunities for guys like Tesla to also take advantage of that.

20:28It's important also to point out those statistics of points per game included one. Putter turn touchdown. No kick return touchdowns. No scooping scores. And no pick sixes. 2485 3997 97. Now it goes hand in hand with playing good defense. We'll talk about all of this with the quarterback Jared Goff next on Carson Anderson on 971. So, that's what he's doing. Scott Anderson 971 Lions getting set to kick off the season against New Orleans. When they say that the schedule is what it is, nobody's, nobody's like, but New Orleans coming to town. Lions are big favorite for this one. So not sure that that really matters. But they open the season one o'clock at Ford Field.

21:28Let's talk to the quarterback. Jared, great to have you back for another season. Thank you for being with us. How you been? I'm good guys. Thanks for having me again. I'm excited to do this again. I have a lot of hopefully good Tuesday afternoon talks. Yeah, we've had a lot of good ones and we've learned a lot from you over the years. But let's start with what was the highlight of your off season? Any vacations or was it was a golfing with hot chocolate? Yeah, that was one of my daughter turned one and doing her first birthday and then everything else that comes with her just learning how to walk and all sorts of different things has been the best part. What's the state of Michigan's summer activity or adventure that you got to enjoy this year that you maybe haven't done in the past? You know, we went to the zoo a few weeks ago and I it's my first time going because I didn't really have a reason to until she was here.

22:32But she loves it and I was blown away at first of all how many animals they have in there and then how big it is and how many things are to do. It's like a Detroit zoo ad right now, but it was it was really cool. Penguin's number one. I didn't see the penguin she went to the penguins like a couple days ago. What did I see that I mean a tiger was cool tiger was right there on the glass. I was sweet the polar bear was cool. Again, I was shocked that that maybe I had underestimated the capabilities of the Detroit zoo. If you could pet a bear or a tiger, which would you rather pet? Gosh, probably a bear. Yeah, there are grizzly bears there massive too like that was really cool. Well, there you go. Let's talk about the team. Drew Petsing comes in to run the offense. We've heard rave reviews and we're about to see for ourselves what what he's bringing to the table as the offensive coordinator. How would you describe what you know so far about Drew Petsing and what he's bringing to the Detroit lines?

23:37He's been great. I mean, I'll try to say something. I haven't said yet. He's been great. He's been everything and more. He's steady every day. He's the same guy. He's got great ideas. He's a great leader. He's great. You know, great holding people accountable. But he's very smart. Obviously, that's kind of the calling card for him and knows how to organize things. And it's just been a pleasure to work with him and he's really great listener. He hears what I want. What you know, our best players want how they want to get the ball. How they want to do certain things. I mean, the first was a lot. But at the same time, we'll put his foot down when he wants things a certain way. And I think it's a really good balance right now. And I'm excited to see it come to life here this weekend. Was there a moment when you realized that it was going to click with Drew Petsing? Was there a moment you're like, do we just become best friends? Yeah. No, I don't know. I mean, there's been a bunch of those through the offseason. I mean, I just did constant conversations and OTAs and training camp. I mean, you know, I feel like I talked to him every day since he's been hired.

24:37It feels like him just getting on the same page, understanding how he wants to do things. And then him understanding me. And I just think the more that we communicate, the more we go on the same page. And man, it's been great. It's been really good getting to know him and then getting to work with him. It felt like in this offseason, there was an effort starting at the top from Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes to make everything about business in the offseason. A little fanfare. We're just going to put our heads down, go to work and get back to some of the things that got the Detroit lines to where they are. Did you feel that inside the building? Was that something that was tangible? Yeah, I think so. I think Dan has certainly been all over everything. It's the way he should be. It's the way he's always been. And he's done a great job of it. To speak on brass process. I don't think I could. I think I could have done it as well. But seeing Dan in front of the room, the way he's handled himself this offseason and got us prepared and gotten us ready to go. It feels good. And it feels really good. And we do carry a little bit of that chip on our shoulder.

25:37Now a little bit bigger than maybe your prior that we did miss the playoffs. We did come in last place in our division and we got some more to do. You're beginning your 11th year in the league, which seems kind of crazy. What would you tell your younger self if you could? I don't know. Where do I start? You know, buckle up. Have fun. Enjoy it. I do feel like I've enjoyed it. But find a way to soak in every day and do your best. But yeah, it's been a long journey. It's been a fun journey. And I don't feel like I'm anywhere near done. And that's kind of the most exciting part. Dan Campbell was on our morning show today and was asked about you specifically. And where he thought you were getting still getting better. I'm kind of interested. What do you think he said? I don't know. I try to get better in a million different ways every day. He sees things sometimes that I don't even realize that maybe I've improved on that. I'm happy that he can see from afar. But you know, I don't know.

26:40I think there's a lot of mental things and some things protectionally up front. And then you know, in the running game that with a new align that I can help with a little bit. And I think I've tried to pick some of that stuff up. His answer was he basically he thinks you do everything faster. You process information faster. You defense faster. You do everything faster. And would you think that that's accurate? Yeah, I think so. I think you know, you play long enough. You start seeing the same things over and over. And yeah, it's you're able to move through things a little bit quicker. You're able to make your calls a little bit quicker. Pre snap and yeah, I said it could be accurate. Do you run faster? Yeah, you know, that's certainly one of them. I was I was I was getting my miles per hour up. I won't reveal what it is that right now. But it's it's going off. It's trending. Like it. I like it. Or a ring is really paying off for you. That's nice. Everyone is right. Everyone's raved by JMO in training camp. I was out there for a couple of days and saw a couple of deep connections that you made there.

27:43It he looks like he's poised to have this special season. What are you most excited about with his growth and development as a receiver? Yeah, he's becoming a complete receiver now. I think when he came in, he was it was a speed guy. He was a take the top off guy and could only do so many things and he's really developed. He's really worked hard at it. It's a credit to him and all his hard work. And he's become a complete receiver now. He can run everywhere out. He can he can run the shallow. He can run me intermediate. He obviously can go deep. We know that. But he's a complete guy. We can put him on the backside. Let him do some work one on one. We can get him to the field and let him do some work in a concept combination. And he can do a little bit everything and it's a lot of fun. Probably the question we get asked the most about the offense is about the offensive line. How would you evaluate a lot of new parts up there? How do you evaluate that group? Yeah, man. They've really come together nicely and they still are. I think that the juice switch whenever that was a couple of weeks ago and Cade went down.

28:43That kind of. Not them. Regial again. I thought they were yelling pretty well. And then you know, a new center comes in and you got to do it. Do some of that work again. And I think it's really come a long way in the last few weeks of training camp. And juice has done a good job taking control and yesterday was a great day. And yeah, it's going well right now. You got Penetra still moving over to the left side. Obviously did that for a few games is is rookie season. And then you've got the rookie on the right side. Have you seen some sort of mentorship going on with Penetra and Blake Miller? Yeah, I think so. I think he's done it in his own way. And I'm sure you'd have to ask Blake that. But Blake's come a long way too and seeing him grow every day. And I know he's getting little bits and pieces here from Penetra and even Tate who has a year under his belt now is able to give Blake some bits and pieces. And yeah, man, it's been good to see him grow and continue to get better and learn from his mistakes. Every week in the NFL, defense is present challenges. What stands out about New Orleans that is going to challenge you guys this Sunday?

29:44Yeah, man. I think the number one thing just being a week one is that you don't really know what you're going to get. I think you have an idea. Of course you watch the tape and you see what they do. But you don't know. I know Brandon's daily well and I know he's a great coach and I know he's going to have something different. I don't know what it is yet. But I have something different. He'll roll something out. We'll have to adjust too. So I think just that unknown is the biggest thing. You know, on top of that, they got great players over there. And they're well coached and they're sound and they play hard. And they got a little bit momentum coming in from last season. I thought they played well towards the end of the year. So yeah, they're dangerous team and we have your ready to go. So you prefer starting the season at home or would you rather do that on the road? I don't really care. As long as it's not Australia. Yeah, I bet they're not straight. Yeah, I guess so. But no, it doesn't really. It doesn't really matter. I guess we got we got games tonight. Yes. Yeah, we do. Super Bowl rematch though. Okay, we're going to not do this every week. But we ask the fans sometimes if they have any questions and Kang sits through them, sifts through them, our producer.

30:46And it's got one here for you today that he thinks is pretty good. Yeah, sometimes don't be football related. Jerry sometimes not. This one's not better. You get a lot of crap on there sometimes. Just a little bit. I mean, you can probably imagine. All right. So this one's from Allen and Delville. He says, could you ask Jared, which team it would you trust the most? The baby said your child and which team it would you trust the least to babysit your child? That's a good question. Trust the most. I think I got to go I got to go pene or like Derek Barnes. He is over. They have older kids. So I can trust that. You know, I feel good about that Tyler Conklin. He's got older kids. You know, I feel good about them. Trust the least. I saw same browser this other day, but it's going to be true. Mayor. I just be worried. He'd lose. He's lose track or he wouldn't pay attention. She's start walking away. He wouldn't be like, no, if she went. That is fantastic. And I know in the past, you seem to have liked assignments now. And again, we actually are going to have Hutch on weekly this year as well.

31:49So if you ever have any questions, we need to ask Hutch. If you feel free to suggest them, if there's anything that you guys have long before or after me though, we have them on. Unfortunately, we have a mom before you and we may have him do the same for you. But if you next Monday, if there's anything we need to ask Hutch, let us know and we can we can make sure that we do it. Okay. I'll think about it. I don't feel especially more. Both of us doing. Oh, you're special. Yeah. You were first. Yeah. You were first. All right. All right. Hey, we appreciate the time is always good luckable talk next week. All right, guys. Thank you. Take care. There is a Lions quarterback. Jared Goff. There he goes. Jared Goff who joins us weekly here on Carson Anderson on 97 one. Thank our Scott Anderson. I got to tell you, first of all, it's good to have Jared back on. And he is.

32:53Oh, that's because it was good to have me back on the show. It's okay. No, that's cool too. But I'm trying to balance expectations for Drew Petzing with everything we hear. Right. The coordinator position is one that is under heavy scrutiny. It is one that is probably in some ways over over scrutinized because because play calling is is a function of so many different variables that we in the media don't know and that the fans don't know. And there's one aspect of play calling that is wildly overrated, but it gets people on your side. And that is trick plays. If you run a successful trick play, a creative trick play. If you throw the ball to Penny School. If Penny School throws the ball. I can any of that stuff. And it works. You get so much street cred and whatever town you're called plays in. But it's it's probably an overrated aspect of the game.

33:58The previous very successful play collar and Detroit Ben Johnson made an aim for himself or creative trick plays. And it felt like they worked more often than not. But it's so much more than that, right? And there's sort of like I don't know if you notice, but Michigan didn't play very well on Saturday. And but we heard a lot of stuff about what their offensive. They were hoping their offense would look like and it didn't look anything like that. The defense lived up to the billing. But so here we've got Drew Petsing. And I made the comment yesterday that all the preseason meshing between quarterback and coordinator. It's probably about 5% of the job. And he's got like 100 out of 100 in this 5%. But the other 95% starts Sunday. And the big bulk of how you get judged and how good a bad you are at your job. And Kang pointed out there were probably we don't have the exact quotes of what people are saying about John Morton a year ago. But they weren't trashing him.

34:59No, I think. And I think I said this last week. I feel like in the offseason, everyone's going to say the right stuff. Everyone's going to say that it's going to be positive. Hey, John Morton's awesome. He really works with us. So we're going to we we we sink. We do all this. And then they have the season like they did last year, which wasn't bad. By the way, I mean, this team was still it was one of the top offenses in the league. But when you compare it to the year prior, there's like a 30 year difference per game that they did better two years ago. And there's a five point difference from two years ago to last year. So it was tangible in the yards up in the in the points per game. Even though they had a hell of a season last year offensively, it was better before. Were they right to make a change? Sure. If if the standard wasn't if it wasn't up to the standard, then yeah, you have to make changes. So there's no guarantees it's going to be better this time around. But I don't think it's going to be worse this time around.

36:00So hopefully there's there's jumping off points where this offense does look better. And I think it's got to start with the offensive line when you've got the best offensive lineman and football. And now he's playing the quarterback protector or left tackle. I feel better about that. I feel better that there's that there is competition at left guard. Okay. If Mahogany is as good as he was last year, but he's being pushed by Ben Barch, I should feel better as a fan. Because if he's not getting a done, but Ben Barch is and Mahogany was as good as he was last year, then you're getting an improvement at that position. If I look at Scruggs and I know he's not the number one center, it's supposed to be Kate Mays, but if Scruggs is better than what Glasgow was, that will take that. Take Rattledge at right guard should be better in year two. And by all accounts, he's a lot better in year two. And then he's got the rookie at right tackle, which according to everybody, hey, he soaks everything up. He doesn't make the same mistake twice. He just goes out there and he's going to do his job. And he's going to be a very solid tackle. And hopefully when all is said and done, it's a really really good draft pick to have at the right side.

37:10So you're making this case for what I was just talking about a couple segments ago. If they were a B minus C plus O line last year, it's hard to imagine they won't be better. Well, yeah, and it really the big variable that we just don't know is Blake Miller. He's never played NFL game. And so, you know, that there's probably going to be a learning curve there. And he could be the next Taylor Decker. He could be the next Stockholm, like he, we don't know what direction this is going to go. But there's a lot riding on that. John Morton lasted eight games as offensive coordinator. He got fired or not fired. Remember, he was still on the staff, but they reduced his role. And Dan Campbell took over the play calling after they put up 24 at Minnesota. And I don't know what the breaking point was there, but it was probably about week four. It wasn't it was it was short. It was maybe the Kansas City game that they lost where we started talking.

38:15You could you could start it getting rumblings and watching him in his press conferences because the coordinator speak every week. And we started talking about in the air. Morton, something's off here. Something's off. And so much goes into game planning and play calling. The Morton thing didn't work. And Dan Campbell had had success taking it over before. And you know, the funny thing is they are probably saying the exact same great things going things about the coordinate. We got to see what happens when when bullets start flying. Yeah, I mean, the difference is going to be how they use the players that they have. All right. If everything we've seen with James and Williams is correct, then I expect that he's going to have a better year in the head last year and had a really good last year with 1100 yards and seven touchdowns. But these are going to be more involved. He's going to catch more passes. The the the talk of Jumira Kibs being the bell cow. Well, when I hear bell cow, I think a guy is going to get in your 300, 300 carries a season. Okay. That means more production from him. If I'm getting more touches for two of the fastest guys in the league, that can't be a bad thing. Right.

39:25Now, here's what has to happen. The offensive line has to gel. They have to to improve and they have to stay healthy. Sam LaPorta has got to stay healthy because the options they have after him. They're fine tight ends, but they are those are back up tight ends. And they're not counted on to be guys that are going to catch the ball 90 or 100 times. You know, the Thai conch ones best years are way behind him. He can still be fine. And you know, I like Brock ride a lot, but neither one of these guys is a guy you're expecting to to log like 80 receptions in a season. So LaPorta is going to be key. Well, last year Gibbs touched the football 320 times between carries and receiving. We are we pushing 400. That might be a lot. When I hear when I hear bell, Cowan, I start thinking about as in terms of running the football and last year, Jamir Gibbs had 243 carries. So is he going to get while 50 more carries this year?

40:26It's one of those things where sounds great in theory. There's also preservation, right? You need him. They should be judicious if and when if the season goes as the way we want, they should be judicious in getting him some rest later in games. Yeah. And hopefully they'll have leads where they can do things like that. But 94 targets last year is a wide risk as a receiving running back. I should say 94 targets and he costs 77 of those. That's a lot of receptions for a running back. How many more can that we expect? I don't know if we're going to expect a ton more, but maybe a few more. But if he gets 50 more carries, that's going to that's going to bring about probably a couple hundred more yards rushing. And that's the guy already ran for over 1200 last year. It had what 18 touchdowns last season between running and receiving. Can you get to 20? Yeah. On the blueprint RB 2 is out like I said, Pajek and that could that could impact the use of Gibbs. It could mean more Gibbs. It could mean because yesterday Dan Campbell, me and with the media, I guess it was Monday was really pumping up.

41:33Sarah and Vocky and saying, don't forget about him. Now he's he's in the mix here too, but well hard not to forget because he carried him all once last year. I know. But between Vocky and say I think he's got seven touches in his career. Sailor's look really good in the exhibition season. Thought he looked really good. And we know that Vocky is tough and hard knows to get short yardage kind of guy, but he can also make people miss. Okay, Dan Campbell went on the morning show today and was asked specifically about the secondary. And he was adamant in his response. You'll want to hear this. We'll get to that today at 1105. It's Carson Anderson. Here on Wednesday. You're on 97 one.