Hour 1: Is an Eagles Shootout Loss Better Than a Clunky Win?

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4:02We got to do because you're listening and we owe you a big show. So it's going to be a big show nonetheless. Jason Avatt will join us for the entire three o'clock hour. He will be here with us. That'll be fun. Love when Jason's on the show. Oh, yeah. Can't wait to see him today. What was that about? I don't know. OK. All right. We'll have to investigate that. Baldi is with us again all season long. So Baldi will join us at four o'clock for his regular Wednesday check-in as we'll have all football season long. We will have the new Eagles inside of the power rankings at 430. And I don't think the rankings are that big a deal. But there is a dark horse that might be showing their face. We'll give that a 430. And we will talk about the Phillies. And I'm going to do my best to hold that for 230 because I'm so angry. And I didn't want to start the show off angry. I wanted to start the show off because it is rally and rose for day with the Eagles. And we will talk about a lot of Eagles stuff today.

5:04And there's a lot of... So you won't make anybody angry with that? Well, no. This is not an angry topic. It's a happy topic because everybody smiles. Happy, happy. So if you're calling it 215-592-94-94, not allowed to be mad at me, that is the rule today. And we'll talk about a lot of Eagles stuff today. But we know what we're really all wondering about. We are really... We can talk about everything, man. We can talk about it. It's jailing. Carl is going to be good. We can talk about the new corner back. All this. We're wondering about one thing. And it's the offense and the passing game. That is the enormous question this year. That is where all the curiosity is. Of course, we care about the offensive line. How they looked is Seikron still have it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It is about the passing. That's really it. And I know people are going to kill me, which is why I want you to be nice because we've done this show before. But I do think in this particular context, it might mean a little different. So what I am asking, Ike, and I'll give you my opinion first. You know where I'm going to be on this. We've talked about this before.

6:04But I do believe in this one is what would make you feel better about the rest of the season for this game and this game only. I'm not saying I want this for every single game. But for this game and this game only, it would make me feel better about the rest of the season. The Eagles lost, let's say, 3734. But the offense was cooking. And Jalen was bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, like all the things that all the doubters and all the haters said he couldn't do. He was doing them. And the Eagles lose in a shootout. They lose 3734. But the offense is cooking. Sean Mani is calling the right plays. Jalen over the middle. This, that, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, over a win. Yet in this case, I'm talking about what would I feel better for the rest of the season over a win in which they win 1310 and the offense looks clunky. And we got to argue about it on Monday. I think the optimism I would have for the season because I would feel like the defense is eventually going to get it together.

7:06But a lot of questions answered about the offense. I think quieting the haters for Jalen Hertz. I think, you know, after losing AJ Brown, the questions about the ride, receive record. I think all the questions about Sean Manion first time play, Collar, if those questions feel like, I know they wouldn't be answered after one game. But we would certainly have a clue. I would take the loss to watch the offense play like that on Sunday. Over a win where the offense looks terrible. Yeah, I don't know what to do with that, man. That's, um, you would not. Of course not. Of course not. I don't think any. Same person would. Because winning is what ultimately matters. No matter how many times I say this, winning the football game is what ultimately matters. And this is a defensive oriented team. And honestly, I feel, I feel, I feel for you. Right. I feel for you and people like you. You feel for me.

8:06I do. I do because you can't. You can enjoy the game. And the result with just the Eagles winning. Like it has to look a certain way for you. And I get that. You, you, you are alone. I think the Eagles maybe guilty of this themselves a little bit. I think it's not crazy. They don't want to lose. But I don't want to be, I, I never want to be fixated on that. That is a luxury. That is a luxury. Winning the games or what always matters. The defense is the strength of this team. And if they were to win 13 to 10, I'll tell you what, you're right. We would debate the next day. Yeah. And I get all of that. But if that's a smothering defense and there's turnovers there, there's sacks there, that's what I expect to happen. Given up 37 points to the Washington commanders in the first week with this defense, I'd be concerned that they're going to be issues with the defense this year. And the offense may put up 34 points just because Washington's defense is old and decrepit.

9:07And nobody else having any real playmakers over there. But our strength of our team not playing well and getting gone through like a hot knife with, with the butter. I don't want to see that. So I'm a little, my mind is built to look different. And I'm not, I'm not telling you that I wouldn't find solace in 37 to 4. 34. Yes, I'm not telling you that I wouldn't be like, well, it's saying the world is in falling, right? Like at least they scored some points and Jalen is good. I'd be okay with that, but losing the Washington in a shootout week one. That's still a loss when I have a bigger goal in mind. And these wins are the, the, the, the wins that we're supposed to have. We got to put them in our pocket. Well, you got to beat the Washington's at home. You got to go on a road and beat Tennessee. You got too many other tough games that you got at the fight to the nail for. You start giving away games to teams that are inferior to you. You're going to be looking at 10 and 7 and wow, card and possibly not getting

10:07in at the end of the year and all that for the sake of the offense looking better. When I know the offense eventually is going to look better. Well, you don't know that. Yes, you have to lie. Yeah, no, I do know that. No, I don't know if it's going to be top five. That's different. Right. That's, that's different. See your bar is so high. You got to be pleased. You don't even know what the bar is. I'm spending a lot of money on this all. Just saying they're paying all these offends. So high, but, but listen, you spent the money on the office. You can't get it back. This is too late. Yeah, it's too late. Yeah, did that money spend a go to the defense somehow? 215-5929494. The question is very specific. What would you make you feel better about the rest of the season? Now, I know a loss feels bad in the moment. But what would make you feel better for the rest of the season? Eagles lose a shootout, 3734, but the offense is cooking. Jalen looks great. You get to tell me I'm an idiot. All those things. That's all baked into it. Or a win, 1310, and the offense looks clunky. Right? It just, we know what clunky looks at the offense. I don't need to describe it.

11:08I think we're all very clear on what that looks. That is the question for today. Again, a very big show. We'll get to the fills in 230. Jason von joins us at 3 o'clock, 215-59294. Ken and Cinnamonson, your on WIP. Hey, Ken. Good afternoon, John. And life begins again today. It's your time. How about that? Yeah, NFL. Glorious day. Glorious day. And I got a lot of texts over the last 24 hours or so. Baker. About the Baker. So, you know, I think I'm going to be OK. You're going to be OK? Yeah, take the loss on that one. I'll take the help. I mean, yeah, it's, I'm not, I've never been a Baker lover. It's never, it was never about Baker. I know. We know you're a Jalen Hater. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know, you know, you don't have a minute. Yeah. I root for the laundry. 100%. And I have to say I have to, I have to, I have to, we could be happy for our guy Baker with 165 million, even though he's not going to be here.

12:09Well, because if he gives me some, sure, I'll be happy for him. Right. Right. Right. I have to get some credit to the new guy that you guys plugged in last minute because Ray disappeared on us. He's at least trying, you know, he proposed a trade to me today. Me too. He just tried everybody. He has nobody I want. That's the problem. I'd be willing to help him out, but he has nobody I want. So, yeah, I give him credit. He's trying. I thought about, I thought about making the trade with him. We had a guy draft a bad team and then he ghosted us. So we had a guy named Alex take over the team yesterday. He did propose a trade today of running backs that I almost accepted just, just to give him a little boost, you know, make him feel like he could get something done, but you're right, you got to give to get and that's not it. So I got to get this job this week. Yeah, yeah. So call me, call me at the buy. Call me at the buy. So, yeah, I will feel much better about a 1310 win than a 30.

13:11Okay, 34. Okay. I'm not going to take any solace out of the loss, especially to the 140 year old Washington football team or, you know, the commies or whatever stupid name they have, they're terrible. So if the offense looks clunky in week one and they win the game, I kind of expect the offense to look clunky for the first three or four weeks of the season. They are still working into a completely new offense for them. And what I really am most looking forward to seeing is how much different the running game looks and not just better because I expected to look better, but how much different because the offensive line is not only healthy, but the offensive line is running basically Mike Shanahan's run game, which was the best running game in my lifetime in the NFL. So I am looking forward to that.

14:12And I would be, look, I wouldn't be throwing any parties for a 1310 win and a clunky looking offense. No. But I have expected to look a little clunky because they're still, they're still figuring these things out. I mean, we know from what St. Pond said in 2024 that they basically look at the first four weeks of the season as pretty season anyway. But let me see this. Let me ask you this. Yes. We all expect the all vents to look clunky in the beginning and then to get better. We hope that's the hope in the expectation. I'll know the hope. But imagine the way you could project out the rest of the season. If all of a sudden the clunkiness that you hope goes away, maybe is not that clunky. If the questions that you, I'm not going to call you a hater like I did, but the questions that you had about Jalen as a quarterback and what he can do in this offense. If not answered, but certainly given a much better clue as to what the rest of the season might look like, you don't think that there is any that that that part of you would look

15:15at the rest of the season and go, you know what? I expect the defense to fix whatever's wrong, but, but I don't know the offense. They might actually just be better than I thought. You don't think that's there at all. Well, I remember that last last year in week one, they were moving up and down the field before the lightning stopped the game. That certainly wasn't a precursor to what the offense looked like for the rest of the year. And get one hurts head to roughing touchdowns in the first half against Dallas before the lightning stopped the game. That wasn't a precursor to what the offense looked like for the rest of the year either. So, you know, both teams, every team this week is the one week of the year where they've had a month to game plan over a month to game plan for this game. So after this, you know, your game planning goes from from week to week and you're you're game planning for the next opponent, they've had weeks to game plan for for the commanders. And the commanders that had weeks to game plan for the Eagles, they have less tape to go

16:17why, obviously because they don't know what to expect. So it's hard to take anything out of the first week other than, okay, we want one and oh is better than oh and one and oh, by the way, it's a divisional game. So not only we want to know, but we want to know in a division. At the end of the day, that's all that really matters. And then it's matter of which coaching staffs are better at preparing their team to play weekend and week out. And I just happen to think that Nick Serionis, you know, better prepared to prepare his team to play weekend and week out them virtually any coach and elite. Yeah, that's why we had like the fifth most penalties in the league last year. So that's okay. Thank you for the call. Grab the seat, Ken back and see if I can't send a right frame of mind again. Yeah, I think Ken is. Yeah. Well, it sounded logical there. Oh, as opposed to he's been illogical for a while. Well, the bigger thing, hey, look, if you're a regular caller to the WIPF game show, there's a certain you feel what we feel sometimes in when you when you haven't taken and you say something's going to happen.

17:17It doesn't happen. Everybody's like, as soon as Baker signed that contract yesterday, I mean credit to Ken, his name was the first thing to pop into my head. Well, we're not getting Baker, like you said. And I do believe him when he said that he's not a Baker guy that he just saw the tea leaves in the room. Oh, I agree. He's a jail in here. Yeah, he's just a job group. Just your average ordinary jail. Listen, it's just like you. No, I'm not a hater. No, no, I mean with the Baker, but you love a Baker. Yeah, more. Yeah, so I get that I understand. I love Baker. I love Baker. So I liked him until you two got a hold of him. Dude, I love Baker. Dude, that dude. So he brought up, Ken brought up the Cowboys game last year. He's right. The offense looked good until the lightning delay. There was a big difference though in one thing that happened in that game offensively that did not happen very much the rest of the year in that jail in jail. Jalen ran a lot. Ran a lot.

18:17Ran a lot. Ran a lot. Yes. Yes. Yes. Now, I don't have that. I mean, I wish I remember the game. Really was the offense. Yeah. Well, if I remember correctly, they were not called runs. No, yeah. I was just saying, yeah, yeah, they were broken plays. But it really, I mean, not that you want your quarterback scrambling if he can't find the first guy all the time. But if the, I mean, this is just the old playing with Michael Vickie and Madden thing. Is that the defense that I think there is some truth to it, even though I'm thinking about a video game, if the defense thinks that you can take off, it creates a completely different dynamic. Oh, sure. Yeah. You have to play defense differently. Yes. Yeah. Mike, Mike was obviously one who forced you to do that. I'm pretty sure Lamar Jackson. Yep. Forced you to do that. Jalen, it certainly was a big part of our offense two to three years ago. It'll be interesting to see. I don't know if you get older. Listen, I think his legs are important and he's going to take off at times.

19:18But there is a natural progression to all these guys that run early in their career. You get to that 5, 6, 7th year. You aren't running as much. Yes. Unless you're superhuman like Josh Allen seems like you're going to run better. Yes. But most guys, it starts to tell a little bit. Yeah. It's, it's tailed off. Yeah. Uh, DAC. Lamar, tailed off. I mean, he didn't got asked about it in Baltimore. Now he said he was hurt last year. Yeah. But, but DAC it tells all I mean, it just does with these guys. Well, either that tells off or you tell off, right? Right. Like if you don't adjust, I think, you know, with all that went around about Kaepernick is like Kaepernick, he never became a, a, a, a, a passer. No, he didn't. He's an efficient of passing. And we can, Cam, Cam's a, Cam Newton's a great example. He's another one when he lost a step. Even I think Carson to an extent, when Carson at post injury, when he wasn't quite as mobile, I think it made things more difficult. I agree. I agree. Those guys live off all schedule plays and strong arms to make something happen.

20:23Once defense is figured out, can't play that way anymore. Two on five, five, nine, two, ninety, four, ninety four. What would make you feel better about the rest of the season and awesome offensive performance Eagles losing a shootout or the Eagles win 1310 and the offense looks ugly, Derek and Payoli, you're on WIP. What's up, Derek? What is happening? What's up, D? What's up, Dave? You know, living the dream without the money, man, that's all I can tell you. Spike, the only way I would be okay with a loss with a 3734 victory is this you and like Jillio and the camera and the rest of the people that not fans of Jaylin was just praising him all week. That would be the only way that I would be okay. But other than that, I could, I could never, I could never be satisfied with a loss. I mean, I hear what you saying. I will take it's a terrible question, but I could just never be like leave a loss still in like, wow. You know what I mean? Especially the first one at home.

21:24Yeah. And I'm thinking about going down there and paying a nice penny for some tickets. I 3734, even there what I added to man, I don't care how many yards, shirts, those four. Well, that is like it. I was going to say four, four touch, four touchdowns, 280. Yeah. No interceptions. No interceptions. 63 yards, Russian. Yeah. No, no, no. What do you say the next day when you come in at it? Dude, I say it looked awesome. Okay. Yeah. I think if you go back, if you go back through the history of his games, well, I've been here when he plays like that, I give credit where it's due. You have a problem giving credit. Well, I remember on the, is that what you all wanted to see game? Right. Right. My answer was like, yes. And that's exactly what I wanted to see. And I'll be, I'll be honest. We're all guessing how well he's going to be able to play in the offense. I really have no idea. I have my best guess. We all have our best guess. But I have no idea.

22:25I think getting that answer though, it might not mean absolutely that he's going to look great the rest of the season. Having the answer that he really, we would have evidence in front of us that he could really do this. And Sean Manion might really know what he's doing. That would be a really big answer, not just for this season, but you're not extending him over one game. But man, you start thinking about that. I'm saying, you're in the extension. Well, you think about the next three or five years. Right. Oh, that's what it might look like. Our quarterback situation might not be up in the air. I think there's a, again, just, I think, I think that's what I'm saying. Just one game, just the corners, but yeah, I get it. I get it, Derek. I get it. I think my thing with you, though, is like, I really don't think that you were Jaylen Hayder though. And I think a lot of people like they get mad when the people, I'm not going to call it by, but certain colors do call in and they go overboard with Jaylen Hertz. And I think that's when you start taking shots. I'm saying like, people might call him out.

23:26He's the best. He's the best quarterback in the league. Right. As much as I love Jaylen Hertz, I know for a fact, I don't care how many super blows he got. He's not the best quarterback in the league. Just from our eye test. Like, is he a winner? Yeah, absolutely. But as far as like throwing a football and, you know, doing this and doing that, I'm never going to say he's better than, you know, the guys who they got up there. But I think when colors call in and say, Jaylen's better than Josh Allen and he's better than this person, better than that person, that opens up for, for Spike to and Gillio, the other way to call in and be like, you know, he ain't. That's not. That's not. I mean, don't French him. Put your throw fritz in there too. He's with him. Well, don't just blame colors. The Elliott. Thank you for the call, Derek. Errol Elliott's take yesterday that he doesn't know if Josh Allen could have come in here and done with Jaylen dead. Yeah, I was psychotic. Something tells me he probably wish he had that one back. He doesn't. He's never wish to get any of that. I talked to Jack yesterday about it.

24:27He sent me the clip and I said, what I want you to do is listen to the next segment of my voice trying to recover from yelling at him over that. 2155199494. What would make you feel better about the rest of the season on Sunday? Eagles lose 3734 but the offense is hum and Jaylen looks great or Eagles win 1310 but the offense looks clunky and bad. We are not at the rally in Royars Ford at McGurks. There were some technical difficulties. We do love McGurks pub and Grill in Royars Ford coming soon. A brand new McGurks in why I'm missing. Coming up next, we are going to have to talk about that baseball game as well. That happened last night. Give us hope only to dash it. This is the WIP afternoon show with Ike Spike and Fritz. So just to give you a hint about what we might talk about, the base running last night, not superior performance, not professional grade. That is the opposite of Bradford White Water Heaters which are professional grade which do give you superior performance which does bring reliable hot water every single day to your home or your business.

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28:37Oh, no. You never go wrong with Hitomah. Good selection. We'll have our 330 country, 439. I mean, the best one though. What? Hitomah? Yeah, guess all odds was better. Oh, Maccabelli. Oh, really? Yeah, I think that was better. Me and my girlfriend is on Maccabelli too, right? This is more commercialized and publicized because it was biggie. Yeah, it was huge. Yeah, it was huge. And to live in Diana L.A. is on Maccabelli too, right? Isn't it? Yes. I love that song. Yeah. As time goes on, I like that more than I did at the time. It's a good record. Yeah. Taco Bell is a good record. So we'll have our 330 country, 439 is 530 Creed. We are not at the Raleigh Reuters Ford at Maccurks because there were some technical difficulties so we're here. We do love Maccurks and we do tell you that the best seat on Sunday is at Maccurks. You can enjoy Miller Lite for less than four bucks. NFL Sunday ticket. Check out their calendar, pop up shops and tailgate tastings for the ultimate game day atmosphere and make them Maccurks. So we will get back to the Eagles in a second and our main topic here. However, the Phil's.

29:38Look, they're not going to win every game. Andrew Painter is not going to look great every game. Folly, folly, he put together a good stretch there and he finally had one. Yeah, he had one and you know what? The fact that he got through what he got through six innings, five innings, whatever it was. The fact that he got through it, he wasn't a three and a third, doesn't tax the bullpen, all that sort of stuff. And a nice little thing that the Phil's battle back and don't lose meekly six to nothing. But this base running thing is, look, I have been yelling about this for three years now. This is not a problem just from this year. It is the most infuriating and I think insulting thing that they do. Last night, it was marsh, it was bone and it was so, so. Now the bone one will get through in a second because maybe he had a bad angle on the ball. I don't know. There's no outs. Maybe he wants to tie up, get to third. Okay.

30:39Marsh, what are you doing? Like what's he doing? No, it's you. Boom had one of those a few weeks ago where like there's second and third. Nobody out. Just watch the bull get out of the infield. What are you doing? And because I'll tell you what the problem is. And he apologized afterwards, said it was wrong. I'm glad he took responsibility. Nobody is thinking about what they're going to do before it happens. We learned this in Little League that what you and what the manager always beat into your head in Little League and then in high school is, hey, if this happens, what are you going to do? If that happens, what are you going to do? If this, they look like they're always just reacting instinctually and not like they haven't considered what should I do if this happens? Because Marsh, like he starts running. So and then and then do so, so I love it. And so so so. We all love it. So yeah, you're not Barry Bond. You're not Aaron judge. You're not Sammy Sosa. If you are hitting 220, if you hit a long fly ball run and if you're going to pimp that

31:44fly ball, it better be in the second deck, man, because he should have been on third. Right. That changes everything. And this is, it's brain dead and Ike it's going to cost them a playoff. Yeah. Listen, you've been saying this and I don't think anyone can argue that it's one of those things that you, you know, in the back of your mind, please let them get through this game without beating themselves. You know, some blunder, some bonehead mistake, some self-inflicted wound. That's, that's what's always in the back of your mind, especially as you get closer to October. The games are obviously more important, but you don't have very many games left and you're still doing stuff that you were doing in April and in May. And these are veteran players. If it was, if it was Crawford, maybe you could chalk it up to over super rinse and he just, he's trying to score whatever, whatever. But like you said, I didn't go back to literally ball hit in front of you. If nothing else, you take a step backwards or you just freeze.

32:47But you don't do as bury your head and just take off running. To Brenna Marsh is 30. I think it's Mundo Sosa's 30. Alec Bohm is 30. Yeah. They've been playing baseball a long time. Have a meeting. Yeah. Like, you know, we can blame the players, but I just, I want somebody and to, to pull Brenna Marsh does that. He's out of the game. Right? Alec Bohm, honestly. Yeah. I think it's him. Sosa's the one I think deserve to be pulled. And we love Sosa. We love Sosa, but he's the one that deserves to be pulled. If they were going to pull anybody, Brenna Marsh, I think he just had a brain cramp and just went because there's just too many brides. I told you, there's no excuse for it. There's no excuse for it. I look at Sosa and I say that is what people get on ball players about doing. And that's why they get on ball players about doing it. You don't think it's going to hurt you at some point, but that's when it ultimately does.

33:48And you're not an everyday player to be the, I can only imagine if I got a penalty for celebrating or something, they gave an offense and automatic first down. I might as well just walk to the locker room. Don't even go to the sideline. They may shoot me on the way to the sideline. And I say that as a guy who was a role player, that is put in a position to help those other guys out there. And you're asked, or you're being, you've earned that role because you've earned it because you've been a smart player and you make the most of your opportunities. Don't start acting like you arrived and you can do things you see other guys doing just because they're star players. And Mundo Sosa should never have that happen. No. Never have that happen. You are not an Akunya did it. You don't like it when stars do it right? Exactly. And dude, if that ball goes out of the park, if you want to dance around the bases, after the ball's gone out of the park, I have at it, celebrate.

34:49But I also, and like I know this sounds, you know, petty of me, but I see him on second base celebrating. Yeah. You should be kicking dirt and pissed off that you're not a third. It's not a third. Exactly. It tells me crazy, man. Have a meeting. I'm just a damn giraffe out there. Once he gets going one way and he's talking to him and turn around and start again. Yeah. Start was already on him. Yes. He was a foot behind him. He was a foot behind him. It was unreal. It was unreal. He's going to pass him. And one other thing to watch for. I thought he was going to pass him. Yeah, but it looked like he was going to. It was literally that's what happened. You would have passed him. The other thing to watch for because I felt this. So I looked up the number. So August 1st to August 23rd, they're averaging like five and a half walks a game. August 24th until today, they're averaging like 3.2 walks a game. Like their walks are down. Bryce's walks have been basically been cut in half the last few weeks. And their runs down from 5.8 to 3.4.

35:50They're not always going to score runs, but this is what this Philly's team does. They get their backs against the wall. They do that little thing. You hope they always do. And then they start succeeding and they go, okay, we can go back to what we did before. And that grinding, look, it's going to be harder to grind against good pitchers than bad. But the Philly's have a habit of doing this against bad making bad pitchers look good too. That was working. Yeah. The walking and the taking pitches it was working. Don't forget that it was working. I'll get you doing that. Get back and doing that. And you got them one next to. Yes. Yes. You just have to. Yeah, one next to. Two on five, five, nine, two, ninety, four, ninety four. We'll get back into the birds right after Ike tells you about Mark's jeweler. Yeah. That's not that's from our guys over at marks, big free agent signings and the return of football. Now the biggest free agent signing of your life is who you marry. Make her feel like the biggest free agent signing ever when she looks at her engagement ring for marks. Now when you walk into marks, you're not walking into one of those pushy jewelry stores.

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37:53And B, Eagles offense looks very clunky. Jalen looks out of sorts. Eagles win 13. Nine. What do you think the poll is at option A, which is the offense looks great option B offense doesn't look good. Eagles should be at B. What should the number? I'll say it's at B. Let's go 58%. 71% B. Damn. I'm going to take. I love that. I'm going to take my almost 30% I want to see offense. Tom, it's 30% silent majority. I don't know if that's what a silent majority is, but I do think. Yes. I do think. I know there are people out there to feel that way. Sure. I think as the week went on, you might feel better about it. Sunday night you would be mad. Monday you would be mad. Is the week went on? 215-592-94-94. Cory and Columbus, you're on WRP. Hey, Cory. New shoes, new clothes, brand new grade. Switched a Verizon to make sure their tech keeps up. This back to school season, buy or bring any Android phone and get a Samsung Galaxy tablet on us.

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40:55The only people that will be mad will be the psychotic, crazy people that can't get anything through their skull. People like you that would understand that this team is a defensive lead team with a run again, right? There was times last year where the offense looked good. And we looked at it as a whole. So let's just say, okay, we scored 37 points. Our offense looked good. Clap over it. But then next we lose to the tight and 13 to 9. Right? Are we going to feel good? No, we're going to drop two games. 37 points. And 1-9. No, we're not going to feel good. So I'm never sacrificing a win for how my team looks. I don't know how many times people can't get that through their head. I know it's a question. You know, this ain't you. We got to have a meeting. We talk about it. You're going to have to get the people in. I love it. You know, I said football is back. But I'm never ever ever. If you out there doing that, you're insane. Because like I said, we never sacrificing wins for looking good.

41:57Guys, what is we talking about? And I get it. Everybody want to feel good? I don't care about none of that. I got to win my football. You do. I got to win my football game. You care. But hold on. This is what I mean by like I care. OK, go ahead. Well, to say we're a defensive football game that is a power running game that it's great. But you can still do that while the offense looks great. There are examples of that. The Baltimore not last year, but prior years, good defense, you know, running based offense and the offense still looks great. Passing Buffalo has looked that way. Seattle last year has looked that way. I don't think to say, I think sometimes we think it's a trade off that this is one of the issues I have with LEDs. Like, well, we're a defensive football team that runs the ball. OK, but that doesn't preclude the other thing from happening unless you think that we're

42:58not capable. No, it's just that I understand what you're saying. And you got to have the ability. And this is why I don't think we honestly, we don't highlight enough when it comes to Jalen in the past game. And again, it doesn't mean it can't be better. And there's areas to improve upon. That's the beauty of this thing is that there is room to grow. But being comfortable or OK, winning how you're winning versus looking for another way to win is what I think sometimes separates the Eagle fan, right? Because there are some fans that want to see the explosive offense want to see you put up numbers, especially when you got the talent there to do it. And then there are fans is like, man, as long as we win, I honestly, I don't care. We, you know, we'll get them next week. We'll score more points next week. But getting the win is ultimately the only thing that matters. We've got to accept. Jalen being a quarterback is not going to always look the same way. That's what I've accepted.

43:59I just, I just, I finally got out of fighting that for years. And it's like, well, this is just what it's going to look like. Right. It's like this is just what it looks like. I just want to real quick. I just want to piggyback off the conversation that kind of guy. I'm like, man, you, you would eat y'all, you always go, man, I tell you y'all, y'all, y'all be having takes out the wazoo. Yeah, I got to, I got to bring this up. I just got to ask you this fight. Yeah. And I know this is like, this isn't, it's going to be like a Jalen. I want to address that, but it's just overall questions. Okay. Do you think being a Buffalo Bill fan and let's say Eagle fans, right? Do you think a Buffalo Bill fan would have traded with the Eagles has had the past five years over what they've had? Yes. Yeah, without question. Yes, but I also think that's what I want to see. But I also think, Corey, that the Eagles would trade their quarterback for the Bill's quarterback in a hot sector. But they give keep the success. But they hold on to all the, they hold on to it.

44:59Here's what they win trade. They win trade. They lack of team success. I agree. I agree. But, but see, and then hold on once I Corey, the clip goes online. Everybody argues about it, whatever. I want to be clear that Elliott started that by saying that Eagles wouldn't have been able to win the same, the same rate with Josh Allen as they have with Jalen Hertz because he doesn't think he could do the same thing. That is a psychotic thing to say. I'm sorry. I didn't bring up. Right. That was an alien. No, Elliott. Elliott rounded up. Yeah. So I think I agree with you. I think Bill's fans would kill for Super Bowl. They would throw for eight yards for Super Bowl. But if you also asked them, hey, okay, would you give up your quarterback for our quarterback? They would all say no. So I think both things can be true. Yeah. Yeah. But this is how you also got to view that. This is also you got to view that, right? Look at the scenario, right? So Elliott said was crazy. But like when you said we would have five Super Bowl, that's that's that's not a control. That's what you need me.

45:59That's a good look. He made me mad. No, but look at, but look at because if you look at the situations, right? I don't even know if we had, if we had Josh Allen the past five years, we might be in the same scenario. Let's like, let's let's let's let's psychoanalyze it, right? Real quick. If you look at 2020, right? Or 2021, first year, it's her since the start. They're losing that Buffalo game. I mean, they're losing that that that bus game with Josh Allen, where Jalen Rager and then we know, we know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're still losing that game. All right, in 2022, we go to the Super Bowl. We know where Josh Allen doing when he's he passed my home in a playoff. It's Josh Allen playing any better. But hold on. They want her day in the Super Bowl. But what you're doing is you're taking away all the other different things that would have happened during the year that put them in a different position. Like do we win? We win 14, we win three. Okay. Yes. But last year are we in 2023. Did we only win 11 games in 2024? Like they just like all the things that happen that go into it.

47:02The only year that put now maybe you don't have to play. Look real quick, real quick, real quick. The only year that you could say it could have ended different was last year. That's the only year. 23. I mean, now, now 2024, 2024 to office, passing office could have been better. Of course, but even if you look at 23, right, we lost again to the Cardinals 38 to 34 with our because our defense was bad and not get it like the year that binds after the shoe by give you all that. But I'm saying if you add Josh Allen to this team over the past five years, hurts in your the only difference that might have been an outcome would have been last year. That's it. Well, and also you wouldn't have a question about your your quarterback moving forward, which the close and close in this real quick. If somebody come to you and they be like, oh, this is why you got to see how Eagle fans away they are. And they'd be like, oh, you could trade Val for Rihanna or Beyonce or Brittany, whoever whoever your question, do you want to do that? What?

48:03That's my wife. We like we. We I heard this. Our wife. They are. This is our wife. She's not training our wife. All right. For her. For her. Oh, yeah. You try to. I'm sure Jaylen is. I got you. Yeah. Hey, no, I want to reject the question. Yeah. Don't admit to me. Yeah. Also, I didn't answer. I know you did. No, smart man. Yeah. Of course I take my life. We all have a lifetime contract with Jaylen. I have a lifetime contract with my wife. That's true. You know, I don't get paid what Jaylen gets paid. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't get paid what Jaylen gets paid. Yeah. But whatever. All right. 215-5-2-94-94. You have a choice. Offense is cooking. Jaylen is cooking. On Sunday, Eagles lose 37-34. Or offense looks clunky. Jaylen looks out of sorts. Eagles win 13-10. How I go to spray them, we still fall through it.

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