FTLDigest2026-09-06

0:00Here are the highlights from the latest episode of free talk live. Visit freetalklive.com for the full episode in the studio tonight. It's Stu Riley, O'Bill, Mr. Penguin and Mark Edge remotely. I understand you guys had a nice time today doing some, some things. That's right. So for the listeners who don't know and are tuning into the show in the car, wherever around the world, around the country, internet, whatever podcast. I'm running for office here in New Hampshire in Keene. I'm running as a state rep. And my campaign is based on a couple things, bodily autonomy. So, you know, drug freedom would be part of that. And also, lower property taxes for people because families need to move here to New Hampshire. I think it's an important place for families. And if property taxes are absurdly high, families are not incentivized, moved to a place where there are high taxes while they're starting out with a family

1:03or any get their first home, you know, things like that. So I'm running as a state rep to hopefully lower property taxes and get people more bodily autonomy in the world. So, oh, and in the way I promoted my campaign today was I went to downtown Keene. And I played my backpipes. I did not wear my kilt unfortunately. I do have one anywhere. It'd be cool next time. But it was so much fun to have a few people come up to me, talk to me about my backpipes. And the cool thing is, and this is going to surprise a lot of people. The backpipes from here in New Hampshire, they're not a lot of backpipes, makershops in the world, maybe like, you know, I wouldn't think so, especially now. At least two dozen twenty twenty six, right? Yeah. But not a lot. And so it's just nice to play. I've set up backpipes made in New Hampshire in New Hampshire, campaigning for New Hampshire. See, yeah, that those are some legit backpipes. See, these aren't like, you know, some kiddie, you know, you know, junk that comes out of China.

2:04Those are like serious backpipes and they are loud. And like I was thinking this afternoon when I was listening and you need an amplifier. But no, you don't need an amplifier. There's, I mean, yeah, everybody could hear you. I, I miles away. They could probably. Maybe not miles away. But I don't know, man, those are things that I don't know how do they get them that loud? Like I really curious. It's not like it's got any kind of audio equipment inside it, right? No. It's just naturally loud. Yeah, it's, it's, those are some pretty crazy backpipes. That's why the scots use them for war. Oh, is that what it is? Oh, that's interesting. I would explain it. Yeah, they're loud though. I can tell you that. Yeah, it was definitely, definitely interesting and, and few man that's a underestimating it. There was a ton of traffic passing. I know I'm okay. So what Riley's blind, right? Riley, you're blind still. Yeah, as far as I know I'm blind. Okay. So Riley, you couldn't see it, but there were a ton of people, you know, just watching you and surrounding you that whole time. So to say a few people, I only had a few come up to me.

3:08Few conversations, you mean? And even that, there was more than a few conversations that I want to say. I want to say there was at least four or five people that came up to you. But yeah, it was so it was pretty cool. You had to sign out there. It says, what does it say exactly? Do you remember your slogan really? My slogan is vision you can trust. Yeah, I love it. That's great. I like it too. That's really fun. There's always a blind. It's just hilarious. And that's way better than just standing on the corner waving at people that they drive by most people do. So yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. But yeah, no, people could in the street. I mean, so this is like a main street, downtown main street. And there was just a ton of, ton of people today because it was, I guess it's because it was a nice day and it was Labor Day weekend. It's a Labor Day weekend. It was really nice today here in New Hampshire. I think that might be a music festival going on anyways or something. I don't know. There's still going on. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, I mean, I mean, most, I don't know, I shouldn't say most, but like frequently, like you go downtown in afternoon and there's not really that much traffic going by. I mean, there's just people out and about and stuff and don't get me wrong.

4:09We probably have one of the business main streets in that country, you know, outside of like a tourist destination, maybe. But yeah, it's, it's usually like, there's a little bit of traffic, but not ton of traffic. So today was definitely a good day to be out and doing a little bit of activism and promote and your political run here. There was some, there was actually some other news. So apparently Matt Roach has announced his campaign. And do you know what you, do you guys know what his slogan is? No. I believe it's a lower property taxes or something along those lines. Okay. So I thought that was kind of interesting because you were, your slogan's a little different, but it's, yeah, same, same objective, basically. Yep. This is more of a standard, you know, politician looking time. So it definitely is more standard. Now, I'm curious. Do you know, are you in, are you running and competing for the same seat or are you running on a Republican side, you know? I know his running is a Republican. I don't know if I'm competing for the same seat. It'd be funny if we were. I suspect he's in Ward five and your ward four, but I don't know because he doesn't live

5:15around here. So, and I want to say Ward five is, I suspect it's probably like my area and then like further out, but I don't know. Right now though, we're going to go to the phones. We've got Dave Ridley on the line. Dave Ridley you're on free talk live. What's on your mind? I can't believe RIO would say something like that for, for play the police. Oh, that's funny. I think you're being sarcastic there. Yeah. Yeah. Dave, did you have one? I wanted to talk about, by the way, that's absolutely wonderful news. All of these runs for office, especially Riley, that's a, that's an absolutely winning strategy. That's going to be hard harder to lose than you might think. We'll see. That's an optimistic position, I think, but I like it.

6:20Are you running in the Democrat? I am actually. That's good. That's really good. Yes. So, interestingly enough, for the listeners who don't know, when I turned 18, it was 2004, the election was John Kerry and George Bush. I registered as a Democrat because primarily my family voted Republican. So I registered as a Democrat to kind of troll them a little bit. I did not vote Democrat, however. I don't remember who I voted for, probably constitutionalist party or something like that, but I did register as a Democrat in Utah. Well, I called into the, I called it into the local show in keen, you know, a week or two ago. And they assured me that there's going to be an exodus of free status from the, from the state house. Really? Who's saying this? Oh, the authoritarian that ran the radio station. Oh, wow. Yeah. Okay. So this is the local keen station. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. I think they're probably nuts. Most of the people voting for local elections don't even know who they're voting for.

7:22So they're just voting straight up Democrat or Republican on the, the idea is generally free status runners Republicans. Generally the seated president does poorly in his midterm of a second term. The seated president is Republican. Therefore Democrats will be liable to win the, how United States house. And that does seem likely. There's also some claims that they'll win the United States Senate on the edge. I'm not predicting that. I heard. But most people when they vote will vote all the way down ticket. The idea being as well if I'm going to vote for this party this time, then I might as well vote for all of them to give them a chance to do their good deeds all across the nation. Now remember 40% of the nation would vote for Stalin for Democrat Hitler for Republican. It's that 20% in the middle when they decide to vote that makes the decision as to which

8:25team of liars and thieves we get this go around. Yep, for sure. So that's is that they're going to lose for that reason. It is. I don't think so. I've talked to a many insiders because it's really important to note that wishing really hard doesn't win elections. You've got to decide who the jurisdictions are. You got to knock on doors. You got to do all kinds of stuff. I think that's what happened last time from the sort of the Democrats in the socialist leading side. They just couldn't believe that Trump would be elected a second time and it's like well, they also got overly confident in thought that well, from all of us going to win this, people are tired of Trump. Nope. I guess they're not tired of Trump yet. No. You can see how the midterms turn out. Well, I mean, I think these, I think that the Democrats were were delusional in particular the last the last run. And I mean, I think they're both sides are delusional, but you know, both Republicans and Democrats to be honest, but it's the last time the Democrats were like though they were expressing

9:26it. And it was just like, are you guys like listening to yourself? Like do you really believe what you're saying? And honestly, I think they do. It's, I don't know how, but they do. It's because a lot of them live in their ivory towers. They're a little snobby, I've noticed. And they think that everyone deserves health care and things and they think that's a logical position to have, but they don't think through the ramifications of saying everyone deserves health care and clean water. Well, systems have to work in order for these things to happen. These politicians, they say slightly different things, but like they end up doing the same thing. So it's like it, I mean, I don't want to say it makes no difference, but like a lot of it is, it's just, it's only a slight difference. Whether you, you know, end up with a Democrat or you end up with a Republican power, they just, yeah, sure, maybe one will, you know, maybe fund the military slightly more, slightly less. But it's like, you know, even when they say that they're going to do things like open the border, like the Democrats said they were going to open the border or something to that

10:27effect. And, and then they got elected or whatever and then like they didn't do that. And it was like, like what did you literally said you were going to open the border? And then it's like, and when you quit, you call them on it, it's like, oh, I didn't mean that. It's like, well, what did you mean by open the border? Like you said you were going to tear down the, tear down the wall or, you know, something it was like, what does defund the police mean? Yeah, right. Like when they say it, what do they mean? They said they said something like defund, it wasn't like defund the police. It was like defund the border, you know, the border people or whatever. And it's like, if you defund the border people, there's no, there's no, there's no border, right? Or some reason they had a problem saying abolish the police. And so they said defund the police. I don't know what the difference is. We got Sarah in New Mexico. Sarah, what's on your mind tonight? Yeah, that was at the church today. Page question. I was getting the vote out. And I think the two Republicans are just like, I'm not, I'm not going to vote waste my time

11:31or energy. The base figure is that they're going to lose the governorship. So they're not going to bother with it in New Mexico. That's pretty likely, right? Well, they're very certain about it, but they're not going to even waste their gas to go to the polling location. They're not going to even bother two of them. But that's the, that's not an answer to the question. Is it, is there a remote possibility that a Republican wins the governorship in the state of New Mexico this term? I think we got it because she, Deb Holland, she's polling at like 12%. And a lot of them. Deb Holland is a Republican or a Democrat. I'm sorry. I don't keep track of them all. Holland is a Democrat. She's a 12%. Yeah, he's a head 12% ahead 12%. Sorry, 12% and a head 12% are big. There's big difference. That's huge difference. But what does that mean? So the margin of error might be 2%.

12:34So you might ask me when by 15%. I don't know that I'd waste my gas going to your church either or or or to vote in New Mexico. Right. Well, yeah, he, I could tell that they were talking. If he was saying that he's got so much money piled up, I have been seeing her television commercials and no commercials for the other candidate Republican Greg Hall. So he's got no money. And what's peculiar is that Shubbong has been donating campaign funding for Deb Holland. And it's a Democrat. Huh, wonder why you think that might they might be getting an opportunity to drill. You know, like, hey, look, Deb, it looks like you're going to win. Here's some money to make sure that happens. And when the opportunity comes, be sure to slip us in. Look, I know you got to play this whole eco green thing, but you know, when, when the rubber hits the road, Chevron gave you some money, right? Like it's a dinner.

13:34That's me. They might go out there and campaign for you and they might say, Hey, this, this abortions for you or this sex changes for you or whatever, but they're not giving the money. Chevron gives the money, Deb. So remember. So the Greg Hall is not getting any money from Chevron. So there's no because he can't win. Why would you give money to the guy who's going to lose? Yeah, he's the right way spending on somebody that's not going to be in there in the first place. So I guess they must be going by the polls and these guys are going by the polls too. So I mean, I think the polls will kind of mess up when it comes to presidential elections. But for the state elections, they have to be pretty much, um, pretty accurate, pretty close to it. So. Hey, Sarah, would it be better if you could have two Democrat candidates to pick from? Then a Democrat, no Republican. I'm just saying if you had an actual race, that wasn't, you know, it wasn't already decided.

14:37Everybody who knows, everybody knows it's going to win kind of thing. Would that be better? Would it to give you more choice? I mean, it is what it is. I don't think about it, but I just, I prefer that we had a, like, it's an easy thought experiment. You know, that's that important. I think we had the primaries and we dwindled down to the last two. So I think other states with it is California to top two. They don't care if it's a two-debt Republican to Democrat one. Mixed match. It's like the top two gets it, you know, and so in California, you have the possibility of two Democrats in the top two, I think. So anyway, so what would you take away from these two Republican people in your church saying they're not even going to waste their time going to vote? Well, I'm so happy they're out of the way. Of course, I did not tell them that.

15:40I thought I thought you guys were supposed to be all four voting. No, only only for the Democrats. Oh, only for people who are likely to be Democrats. She wants people. She wants people. She wants people. That makes a lot more sense now because they're, yeah, okay. But I said, I was giving him a told me to vote. They keep pying me. I'm asking me who I was going to vote for. I don't push the candidate because I have to be fair to everybody that wants to vote either way. So that I did I say, but you know, every person, every one Republican I talk to, I'm taking, I'm talking to five Democrats. So that's why I do that. So that I never told them that I was happy that they're going to be shoveled out of the way, but it's just that she's going to win with a higher percentage. And that puts a lot of sale in her wins. I mean, when there are sales and more. Yeah, you know, she could do things. Is she one by like 25% or 18% it's just she's, she's got, she could do more of what it is.

16:48What do you want? Yeah, yeah, it's a popular already contest. Last night, they kind of teased that I would read this story. So I guess I'm going to do it even though it's not exactly the topic I'm most interested in. But I did find this interesting. What's the story? This one coming from the globe, Amish, consider New York Exodus over vaccine mandate as Supreme Court fight looms. Wait, there's Amish in New York. Yeah, the panel is there is. New York's Amish community is taking its fight over the state school vaccine mandate back to the US Supreme Court. And some family say they may lead the state if they lose the dispute stems from New York's 2019 decision to eliminate religious exemptions from vaccine requirements for school children. The change came under the then governor, Andrew Cuomo following a major measles outbreak. According to a report, the New York Post published on Wednesday, August 26th.

17:48Amish parents have been fighting the mandate in court since 2024 arguing that forcing them to vaccinate their children violates their religious beliefs. New York is home to an estimated 25,000 Amish residents. Do we believe that? That there are 25,000 there or no, no, that there are that that. If I that giving getting a vaccine could violate someone's religious belief. Yes. Yeah, why would I mean, why would it not be possible? Riley. I would say that it potentially could be, although my question is, why would you religion prevent a vaccine? That's, you know, I don't know. I guess the reason would be that God will decide what diseases you get and which ones you don't. So intervening with medical stuff as against it. I don't know. I mean, I don't know either. That's why I'm asking my, my closely held philosophical beliefs, right?

18:49That are informed by my belief in God and these sorts of things. Say that anything that is forced upon you is probably bad. Yes. Oh, yeah. That makes sense. I'm not going to say a true statement. So I don't know if the God of this world, right? As the Bible calls him, the devil is in control of the government, but the Bible kind of says he is. Yeah. And I haven't seen democracy to be a very good way to figure out what's good, right, just fair and valoris. Oh, it definitely does not. I would guess that if the devil has control of this world, as the Bible says he does, I'm not making this stuff up. I'm just, I'm just reading. Then he is able to use the powers and principalities and rulers and heavenly places in order to get some large percentage of the population to do what he wishes.

19:55I'm not sure whether they're in the Democrats or the Republicans, but I'm pretty sure that many of them hold office. I'm not even sure if they're shape changing lizards. I don't know any of this stuff, but I would be able to go ahead and say that, yeah, if the same people who brought us the mRNA vaccine are trying to say that you must get which vaccine is this? I guess that would be MMR. The MMR. So this is measles, mumps and rubella. By the way, when was the last time you heard of anyone dying from measles, mumps or rubella? Now measles is up. There's no doubt about it because fewer and fewer people are getting the vaccine in many cases because they don't know anything about it. I think they're claiming two deaths in Pennsylvania last week. There you go. Two people have died. Yeah, it's definitely an increase in some of these. However, I wonder how many people have died from MMR. But this is like, and he can't get an accurate number on that because the VAERS reporting is all messed up. Yeah, this is kind of like banning suicide, like with the death penalty.

20:57It's just, it's so stupid. According to the outlet earlier this year, the Supreme Court sent the case, Miller V. McDonald back to the second US Circuit Court of Appeals. I already read this part. Said the appeals court ruled against them and they're taken to the Supreme Court next month. If the challenge ultimately fails, attorney for the Amish confirmed to the outlet that some of the members could leave New York, possibly relocating to Pennsylvania. Which is currently battling a measles outbreak. Two people died in Lancaster County last week. That's, they said it was the first measles related deaths this year and the first in Pennsylvania in 35 years. And we're 393 confirmed cases and 70 people hospitalized for it. So I mean, according to those statistics to me, this doesn't sound like something. You need to be all worked up about. It's not going to kill you.

21:57It's, I mean, one thing it's worth pointing out is what there's 30,000 people will die in America this year in the next 12 months from driving in a car. Now, that means that parents are making the decision that they and their families may perish, but it's worth it to be able to travel from one place to another. Now, I don't know about the calculation that these Amish parents are making about their kids. I think when their kids, you know, have families of their own or whatever, they should be able to get the MMR vaccine if that's what they want. But if their parents decide for whatever reason not to give them the MMR vaccine, I think that that's their right as a parent. Now, you could say the Amish will be cultivating measles, mumps and rebella. And it's going to get us. But I mean, no American cares whether the state of Chihuahua, what one, you know, right there on the border of the United States, I think, is whether what the rules for MMR vaccines are there.

23:06But they could very well, you know, spill across the border and, you know, cause problems here. But somehow the Amish, who largely stated themselves, are a problem. And this is kind of where it all kind of falls apart. It's the magic polygons. Right. Somebody made a polygon on the globe and said, this is our part of the polygon. Everything that happens outside the polygon, who cares? That's that's a foreign affairs. Everything that happens inside the polygon, that's domestic affairs. I get to have an opinion on domestic affairs. It doesn't matter whether they're Amish or older or older or Amish or whether they're fundamentalist Mormons or, you know, they're their Hawaiians living off and, you know, their own little huts. Whatever, I get to have an opinion. Yeah. Kind of crazy. I will bet you that vaccine compliance is very low amongst the illusion Indians in Alaska. But again, Americans don't care, you know, New Yorkers don't care about that. They care about what's going on there. So I for one welcome the Amish to move to New Hampshire, where we have rules that are not available.

24:20We have rules that will they can do what they want in their own families, you know, come here, do what you do, raise kids. We'd love to have you. Yeah. I wouldn't be worried at all about your own vaccinated children. No, a spokesperson for the New York State Department of Health, defended the mandate in a statement by the New York Post confirming that its responsibility is to protect public health, keep New Yorkers in their families safe and enforce the law fairly and equitably. Attorney Haram Sasser, who also represents the plaintiffs questions, if the case extends beyond vaccines, have we gotten to a place where we aren't going to make room for the Amish anymore? He asked per the report. It was kind of the kind of the thing you brought up there. Like, do you just push them completely out of your society because you don't like that they don't vaccinate their kids? Or don't practice the same religion you do the same way you do, etc. And to your other point there about, you know, a community is having a spill over what are if you're vaccinated, why are you that worried about, you know, an outbreak, are you protected by the vaccine?

25:29Well, I know the counter argument is some kids can't get the vaccine. I know. I was just about to say that. Like, you know that counter argument, though, the very small percentage of kids who can't get it. So if your kid has a special medical condition, they probably shouldn't be in public school and you probably shouldn't be worried about it anyways. I think that's the better way to go at it. Ultimately, you know, the choice you have to make is, are you going to force my family to do what you want because you want it or not? And that's what it comes down to. We had we had the we had five years ago we had you know six years ago, whatever it is, we had a very clear case and a lot of Americans about half of them were like, yeah, let's force people to get this untested vaccine. Now, is the MMR vaccine untested? Kind of, because we really don't know whether it's good or not. I'm sorry, but none of the factors are nothing but drug pushers and the drug companies won't give us fair information.

26:30On vaccine mark, that's right. My memory, that was forced. There were forcing people to take that vaccine. Don't close to it. There was a lot of job going on. There was there were a lot of incentives in place. I'm just thinking like it wasn't that wasn't the case in New Hampshire, but it was I was wondering if that was the case elsewhere because you made a lot of people lost their jobs. You had to you couldn't go out and go out to eat. You had to stay home. Right. If you didn't have that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I remember now. Okay. Yep. So I don't know whether that's forced, but it's close enough as far as I'm concerned. It's not, but I get it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I would. And if you read the internet, there are darn sure some fat blue hairs that were the love to held you down and forced you to get the vaccine. You know, there was stuff I guess that was forced probably, especially in some states, but like, yeah, it wasn't forced on individuals. It was just, but the businesses might have been forced to keep up a lot who weren't vaccinated or something like that.

27:30So I get it. Yeah. That is that's I mean, it's a problem in and of itself. It's just sort of slightly different. We've got David or New Mexico. What's on your mind tonight? David. Yeah. Are you Bonnie's friend? Am I? Yeah. Well, take that as yes. Yeah. So yeah. Could be the same house as her sometimes. I said, I sleep in the same house as her sometimes. Does that count as a friend? I thought that was Collins job. I don't know. Anyway. So, but no, Bonnie put out a hit on me last week or it on air. What's up with that?

28:39I don't know. I have to I have to hear this to believe it. She said that, you know, right when you know coinciding with when she was hanging up on me, she said something about that she would call her friends to beat me up, something like that. The indicating that Bonnie's an ad have a diva of when she doesn't like some dude that she has some, you know, maybe some gay friends that will do her favor. And go and beat somebody up over. Is this some sort of joke? Because this doesn't sound like Bonnie. It wouldn't beat up anybody. No, it sounds exactly like Bonnie. Bonnie. No. No. Yeah. But Bonnie might be vicious, but she's not violent. There's a big difference. If Bonnie wasn't so vicious and violent, why did he and run it run away and hide in the cage so she couldn't get out of him? Okay. Now you're just being okay. This is funny.

29:41Well, that's what it is, right? I mean, why else would a man spend eight years in a cage if it wasn't because his wife likes like that? Yeah, like that. Well, you know, this is radio. I can't say what I'm really thinking. What I really want to say, Mark, after you use euphemisms. I understand. Yeah, okay. All right. So you guys are speechless. So how about the the, well, wait a minute. Let's go and reverse chronological order. Um, what you're just talking about, which kind of ties into the other thing I was about to mention about he ha. He ha. Oh, and by the way, Riley, Riley, you don't know bull or bulls because I've come face to face with hundreds of bulls, including rodeo bulls. And they're all puppy dogs, just big old puppy dogs. They wouldn't hurt. They wouldn't, they wouldn't hurt a, herdo, whatever. Well, they'd hurt a fly because they got that tail right. It depends on what you're doing to them. Yeah, they can get pretty aggressive.

30:45Oh, well, in an intact male adult male animal is dangerous. Just consider it that way. Well, those are big puppy dogs almost every single one of them. Yep. So we're mountain lions. I am happy that you can treat them that way. Um, and I do wish you the best. But I do not agree with your assessment. Well, wait a minute. Wait a minute. How many bulls have you ridden, Mark? Zero. I was given the opportunity one time though. Okay. Well, I've got dozens ahead of you then. And how many bulls were you around on a daily basis when you were growing, growing up on a farm that had 300 cattle on it from birth until you got the hell out of there and went to college. We didn't have 300. We had between 10 and 20 at any given time. We had one and two bulls. We would often have a steer. And you're in what manner? What definition of have is this mark that we're talking about?

31:45I did not pay politely. Are we seriously having this conversation on there? We're going to have it. Yeah. He's trying to besmirch my red neckness. And I got to say, I'm pretty red neck. This is this is this is this is pretty funny conversation to hear. Yeah. What's I will go back to ask the same question of two, but he kind of dodged two said it depends on what you're doing to the bull. So what have you done to? I mean, he's had them apparently had to round up a bunch of cows into the corral before and watch my cousin get kicked in the lake pretty hard. Tell him what you do to him. What you do to him once he had him confined to I didn't do anything. They were getting branded. I wasn't doing branding. So you're what you're saying is that is that she wanted it. What why did what? Did they kicked in the foot or something? I don't know. What are we talking about? I don't know. I just I saw my cousin get kicked pretty hard by a cow. It doesn't look very nice. That's a dangerous animal.

32:48Yeah. Well, yeah. There you go. I didn't say cows are puppy dogs. I said bulls are puppy dogs. How is it that the three of you guys have had so much so many interactions with bulls? Yeah, my dad sat at the family. He's from Roosevelt, Utah. They're ranchers. Okay. Yeah, Chris, dude. Do you like a good ribeye now and then? No, not really. What's laying in your your your flame? No, not not really being to that either. He is gay. What are we talking here? ribeye? I'm a ribeye man. Generally, I'm prepared in demolonico if I can get it. What what what what my ribeye prepared del monico. What the hell is that? Mr. Huydy, Twaty. I don't know what that is either. It's a smoking method. Penguin brought brought up a topic that sounds interesting to talk about. And I've got a article pulled up here from Fox News. It's the yeah, three Sanders wants to ban AI.

33:51Repetible news source. Yeah. Coming from Fox News, this article ought to have plenty of slant. Sure. Sanders pushes death penalty for crucial US industry that could give advantage to foreign adversaries. Senator Bernie Sanders independent Vermont. Is he independent now? Yes, he's always been independent. Oh, okay. I don't want you to help you help a UE. So I wouldn't know. So left so far left that he's like runs as an independence. That what it is. Or is it just like he's further left in the Democrats in Vermont? Oh, is that the case? I don't know. I was asking that. Is that I don't know enough about socialism like socialist politics? I wouldn't know either, but it seems to me that he's pretty far left. But the Democrats will in Vermont like him because he's going to vote their way. So is any a rep in Vermont? He's an elected state rep. No, he's a senator. So Senator. Yeah, well, Senator and senators are rep to right like they're not.

34:53Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, the rep is just representative. Anyway, yeah, he's Vermont senators. Senator, but not a house rep. Okay, Senator burning centers and rep and rep Greg Kazar. Democrat Texas introduced legislation Thursday seeking to hit American artificial intelligence developers with a corporate death penalty and up to 20 years in prison, a move critics warn will hand a crucial edge in the global AI arms race to Beijing and Moscow. The ban artificial super intelligence act would temper want a lovely name would temper or advanced AI development and establish a cabinet level federal agency authorized to oversee the physical destruction of noncompliant tech systems, likening advanced AI creation to the unlawful development of nuclear weapons, the measure explicitly target systems capable of matching or exceeding human cognitive performance specifically outlawing any AI model that exhibits the capacity to subvert shutdown commands execute unauthorized cyber attacks or undermine the US government.

36:14Wow. You know, you have to wonder if these people actually believe the sci fi stuff that's coming out like. Because like this is the most absurd crazy thing like that you could possibly propose like I understand creating it like having liability for companies that like take a model and implement that model in like some system that then causes like it's maybe supposed to test for cancer, but like it causes cancer or like you know, 100% each of the time so like like it ends up at a rate higher than like, you know, it's curing cancer like okay, like I get it liability there, but you don't ban the model you don't ban AI because it was misused in some way. I mean, you go after the corporation that that implemented the technology or you go after the individual user who misused you know some technology. You don't ban AI but the United States government does clearly, but this is so dumb.

37:15Why is it dumb Chris? Because you're not first of all you don't even solve the problem because other countries are it's not going to be banned everywhere and so other countries are still going to use it. So all you're doing is creating a circumstances under which your your population is disenfranchised and likely unable to defend itself. So like for example, one of the examples I'm pretty sure they're going to bring up is hacking so like AI is now hacking systems right and so it's it's a huge threat. Well, if you if you're trying to defend against AI systems that are hacking you, you first of all you need to fix the code you need to fix the bugs and if the AI is going to help you fix the bugs you're going to want to use AI if you go and ban AI. But then you're going to have a situation where you're even more vulnerable and unable to defend yourself. You know like it just it just doesn't make any sense you're literally creating your creating circumstances under which you're more vulnerable, not less.

38:16Makes sense to me. But while progressives frame the measure as an urgent check on AI oligarchs experts are warning that imposing sweeping criminal penalties on US firms will severely handicap domestic innovation while foreign adversaries will be able to continue expanding their capabilities on checked. So I'm just innovation it's defense you're literally preventing us from defending ourselves. How? Defending from what? So you're in. Okay, so there's our ready security issues like in software for example, right? And so if if you're unable to use the AI to find the bugs that you so you can then fix the bugs. So the other AI can't hack you right, but the other a the other AI is still going to happen because it's not happening in the United States is happening externally from the United States. And you can only regulate what happens in the United States. You're literally just creating a circumstances under which you're even more vulnerable.

39:16Your population is even more vulnerable than you know just allowing it. Okay, yeah, I guess more computation equals a higher level of online security. I mean, ultimately the security issue is that there are bugs and those bugs are people have a harder or harder time finding those bugs. Right, but AI has an easier time. At least that's the theory. So if you allow the people outside the United States, which you have no control over to use AI to hack you. But you can't defend yourself by using AI to find those bugs that humans can't find easily. Yeah, it's. They're mandating tracking the government has mandated tracking and like remote shut off on carers and like all sorts of things. And here recently I think it's been delayed or something recently probably is a technology doesn't even exist. But they passed it and it was I don't know is probably like within the last couple of years they passed like this law that like every car has to interconnect with every other car and like reported its location and all sorts of you know interconnected like data.

40:25Not even AI stuff, but just this interconnection. Right. That's rules on the manufacturers for new cars. Right. Yeah. At some point they'll try to ban all cars that don't have these capabilities. I haven't seen one of the rules I believe was something along. Now this might not have been the same intercommunication bill or something. It might be was a different bill. It probably was a different bill. But they're going to like force like alcohol, breathalyzers in every vehicle. Something like that. Have you guys did you guys hear about that? That's just a bit for newer vehicles. Right. That's what I mean every new vehicle like manufacturers are required to have this and I don't know if there's I don't know if it's happened or if there's a new generation of vehicles that are coming out or out already that have this but yeah can you just imagine everybody is going to be assumed to be a drunk driver and you're going to have to like breathe into something in order to turn your car on. It's absolutely insane. But that's like what they passed. Yeah, that's just that makes me not even want to.

41:26Yeah, moms against drunk driving or whatever it is is absolutely nuts these people. Yeah, they're home. Kind of rabbit, aren't they? Yeah, no, like I get it. Like I get it. There's a lot of drunk driving and we can reduce drunk driving but these the laws that like they're pushing are just so ridiculous. I mean, give me a break. Yeah, that's emotionally driven thinking. Oh, yeah, definitely and that usually doesn't lead to you know positive outcomes usually makes things worse. Just maybe in different ways, but it makes things worse. It's like do you want your kid in a cage because that's where some of these kids are going to end up as a consequences of this. You know these laws. I mean, I get it like stigmatized drunk driving but it's you know you don't necessarily need to pass a law. Every time there's something that you don't like. That's right. My friend Jay Nune suggests that you buy like I don't know exactly here, but essentially a vehicle before.

42:29I don't know 2000 and something and specifically a pickup truck because it's more versatile uses more fuel though whatever. And then he likes diesel because it can survive an EMP. If the type of diesel it's the mechanical ignition diesel or something like that. I can't remember exactly. I've heard him talk about it. It won't survive an EMP if it has any kind of like tronic set basically. No, there are some that are essentially mechanical enough that you will still flexion the course. Like maybe the MP fried the battery, but you can just swap that out and you'll be right back up and running with what there's no batteries once you try them. If you had a shielded battery or if you could repair the battery. Maybe I'm a shielded if you can shield it somehow or you have a stock file a shielded battery. Better is on the complicated. You could just make a new one. Yeah, I mean, I don't. Battery is not that complicated. They're really like I mean you're just talking about. Well, I guess you guys you're talking about this like the starter battery. Maybe I don't know. They have you make one in school out of a potato.

43:30Yeah, but that's over simplifying. I mean, okay, so I'm thinking like looking my own batteries and I think they're way more complicated if I'm not mistaken to make those. But anyway, and when it comes to density and other stuff, but what I understand here, they're simpler batteries, right? Yeah, so I mean essentially if you fried the battery, you either over oxidized the diode or the anode or something tells me you're not going to be able to start your car with a home made battery that you project. You say these ones though, even from a potato. You can just park it on a hill and get get a bump start off it and run without a battery. Yeah, I mean once it started, but yeah. Yeah, right. What this specific time type that J Nune talks about. Well, one thing I can tell you for sure is I know a little bit, I don't know a whole lot about cars, but I do know a little bit about cars. And what I can tell you about like, you know, the tracking stuff is you yeah, definitely go for like a 2005. You know, anything that's like much newer than that, it's going to be like, it's got all even the stuff from 2005 has got tracking stuff in it.

44:31There's most people believe we know this, but there's a black box in year 2005 vehicle. Yeah, I should have started putting on star and all their vehicles, I think in 2002 or something. Yeah, and some vehicles, it's even earlier that some of this, you know, malicious spying stuff has been put into cars. So like you got to be really careful when buying even cars, older cars. If you know, if you don't want all the tracking stuff, some of it like the black box isn't quite as bad. So this started in the 90s and the late 90s, I want to say, I'm, it was mandated by law. And it basically like records like the last 30 seconds or something like that of like the driving if like you're in an accident. So like it's not anywhere near as bad as the newer stuff that's constantly tracking you and sending sending your data and where you've been, for example, to Google or whoever, right. And then that's being sold to your insurance carrier. But, but there is some, there is some amount of like privacy invasive garbage in the vehicles mandated by law in vehicles that are newer than like 98.

45:34I think it is something like that. Riley brought in a story just one is from Reuters. It's kind of on topic for where we've been. This is FBI probes report of data breach exposing millions of drivers licenses in US and Canada. And people want to centralize digital ID. Huh. Yeah. I wonder what that's going to do to America. Yeah. And the data. That'll be good. And the funny thing is you can just go on the dark web and buy any of these. It's like, what's good is the digital ID? What is good? What is good? What good is any of the drivers licenses? It's like, you know, they could pull you over before they had the driver's license. It's this isn't like this innovative thing. It's this ancient thing that shouldn't even exist. Yeah. I agree. The FBI said on Wednesday it was investigating a report that tens of millions of drivers licenses belonging to people in the United States and Canada were being sold on the dark web. On Tuesday, the independent journalist Brian Krebs said he had discovered a dark website selling digital scans of millions of drivers licenses from people in the US and Canada.

46:44He said he confirmed the authenticity of the data being sold with nine people. In a brief statement on Wednesday, the bureau said it was looking into the incident but could not comment due to the ongoing nature of the investigation. The breach it confirmed could be one of the largest ever exposures of government issued identity documents in North America creating risks of identity theft and fraud for tens of millions of people. Krebs said he was alerted to the site after it was advertised on our Russian cyber crime forum with his own drivers license being offered as a free sample. Krebs said the service. That guy, they hate that guy. That's why he's like a researcher until he's like a security researcher for I'm not mistaken and yeah, he's like he's like targeted like like people that are yeah. Like like into preaching like like packing and you know preaching and selling driver's license is dead and personal dead and screen and worse than that kind of thing.

47:50So he's kind of a villain. He's sort of a villain amongst the villains. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, but not like in the sense that like he's one of them. He's he stands against them. And so like yeah, to them, he's a villain. Yeah. Krebs said he was alerted to hang on his idea was being offered as a free sample. Krebs said the service dubbed nexus claimed to have tens of millions of licenses for people in the US and Canada as well as millions of other identification cards and travel documents and hundreds of thousands of medical records. Krebs said that the site appeared to be updating its database of stolen data in real time indicating that it was being fed by a live breach. Zach Edwards, a threat researcher at the cybersecurity company info blocks said the incident was unprecedented in terms of it sweep.

48:50There's never been a breach of driver's licenses at this scale said Edwards who added that his own license was available for sale on the site. Edwards said that the ongoing nature of the breach means that this attack created legitimate national security risks for high profile individual. Oh my god. Is it that mean it doesn't matter. It's only for the high profile individual said this is a problem. I just think it's all I guess he's kind profile and that's why I concerned some of the most. I think it's funny that they're calling this a national security threat like seriously like this. My driver's license in it of course it is but it should not be this should not constitute a national security threat like they should not be able to then use this data to then like you know do something right like that that's of any significance like it. Oh my god. Okay. Keep going. Rotters could not establish the source of the stolen data crebs quarter to representative of New Orleans based identity verification provider ID scan dot net as saying that it was investigating the matter.

49:57Isn't that one of these providers that's like like doing you know like age checks and stuff or Facebook for social media. So we ended up with a social meet it sounds like we ended up with a with a national security threat as a result of passing like these age verification laws is what it's sounding like to me right now. That sounds right to me too. Yeah like literally and it's absurd like it's not a national security threat even though they want to you know presented that way but at the same time it's like it is a threat it's just. Like it's a threat you should be concerned about we should know pass those laws in the first place but like oh my god it's not a national security threat it's not a threat to the existence of the nation. Yeah and certainly the solution is not going to be the one that they. Land on yeah the solution is that national security threat it's all their fault. Oh yeah looking at it from a different perspective you're right right the solution would be stop creating the national security. It's instead they're going to you know we got to crack down on something going so they keep the people under control though it's absolutely.

50:59Yeah it's been paying attention to the bond market at all. No no it's the thing I check daily I'll check silver price copper price bond market things like that it's been going up the rate. Is it supposed to fund market generally suggest recession right correct yeah yeah yeah maybe it would be going up. Seabonds going up or down yeah I was I'm just trying to think he's like wasn't there something going on with like I don't know the debt or something and somehow it. I don't know some some problem is creating. Basically if the if the bond rate goes up that means the US government is now paying a higher interest rate on what it owes which at this point is more than 40 trillion. Right right right and that's bad. I mean for taxpayers. Well it's bad for global markets too. Yeah right so I got this story from Peter G Peterson Foundation never heard of it before but they've got a readable article here so.

52:03On July 31st 2026 the 30 year Treasury bond yield closed at 5.27% its highest mark since 2007 while there are many interactive and complex factors in the global economy that affect the interest rate environment investors are demanding higher compensation for holding US debt. As ratings agencies have serially serially warned US debt growth is unsustainable and global investors appear to be weighing the risks of financing US deficits more heavily. That's risky. Yeah well you know historically they've called the bond market the safest market so we'll see how safe it is it's only safe and you know until it gets out of control and it's gotten out of control so. These pressures have only intensified since July on August 19th the US Treasury announced that starting September 9th it would at least double the size of its long dated security buybacks in an effort to lower yields.

53:06While yields briefly dipped they rebounded by the next day reflecting the fundamental forces that drive bond prices including continued market worry about the state of US finances. Noted investor Stanley Druck and Miller argued in an August 24th Wall Street Journal op ed that Treasury was attempting to manage yields rather than the Treasury stated objective of supporting liquidity and that the long term Treasury yield is the only fiscal disciplinarian the US has left. The gross national debt crossed 40 trillion the same week as the Treasury's buyback announcement debt has grown by 17 trillion since the beginning of 2020 and the Congressional budget office expects it will reach approximately 64 trillion within the next decade. An increasing share of that growth is attributable to net interest costs which are now the fastest growing and second largest spending category in the budget.

54:08That's insane 64 trillion within the decade I think they've underestimated. Yeah, but that's still astronomical we're we're 40 trillion dollars in debt guys I remember we're two trillion dollars in debt and you know the debt situation was out of control. It's just imagine 64 trillion dollars in debt I mean mine were talking about 30 years ago probably but. I mean yeah it's it's amazing to imagine but the the pattern has been around for a while it was like started I can't remember exactly the numbers but basically it doubled under George Bush it doubled under Obama was whatever there's a war what's that it's whatever there's a war we're constantly at work. And the United States hasn't not but I think it's been at war every year except like 17 for its entire 250 years of existence so almost all the time but this was it's been a little different since the sort of 2000s and it's almost predictable I predicted that at the end of Trump's term which is to say 20 24 it would be 40 trillion and it was 20 25.

55:18So it's pretty predictable maybe it was 2026 and it was I predicted 2025 I'm not entirely sure but I wasn't off by very very much at all and the next prediction is basically eight years from when it went to to 40 trillion it will be 80 trillion. So I think that 60 something trillion is a good number who knows I'm not predicting it I'm just saying because it kind of it doesn't go linearly from 40 to 80 it has some good years and some bad years and complex the way but yeah I mean it's going to go up and knows I feel like the appropriate response to this is to give those bond holders a cut haircut. The haircut approach I don't even know where that comes from but it's like an expression yeah it's a cypress the Cipriot haircut yes yes but the bond holders because people investing in the government like it's just a bad idea all written all over it right you're enabling theft you're you're encouraging theft you say in the US government ought to default on some of the bonds it's yeah yeah I mean and it would also discourage you to do it.

56:30It's a lot of money and the other people from you know well lending government money right I wouldn't be I mean they couldn't I would never buy one if they can't spend what they don't what they don't have I mean the only other I mean there's I guess the alternative that would be inflation and of course that's you know people are going to see that they're not going to like that. And so maybe they curtail or spending a lot of bond purchases exist in people's 401 Ks and stuff if I'm not mistaken if you hit the 401 Ks right yeah everybody's going to take a hit. but at least it'll be the people who enabled it. Well, that'll certainly make you own popular though. They don't want to hear that, that their actions have a ramification. The alternative is to go up. That's what governments are like. Do you want it to totally collapse? Or do you just want a nice haircut for pretty much everybody all around? Because I mean, that would also, in theory, have a consequences of doing things like cutting the police force it by, you know, gosh. No, that's why we adopted the Federal Reserve in the first place so that we could just never have a ramification for our actions.

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