FKN Classics Double Feature! Ken Swartz - Moon Aliens | Elisabeth Hancock - Spiritual Evolution

0:00Enjoy these back-to-back classic forbidden knowledge news episodes. Today I want to welcome back to the show, Ken Swartz. He is founder and chief science officer of C60 Purple Power. He has run several research science laboratories over the course of his career and discovered C60 while developing the Moxie Fusion reactor. Ken welcome back how you doing. Doing pretty good. How you doing up in the cold land? It's cold but we're doing good trying our best to stay warm. Having a great time either way and looking forward to the discussion. You sent me some very interesting topics that we're going to discuss today such as NASA Blunders. Some that most never really hear about and also if we have time you have made a discovery about new gravitational formulas which they may be magnitudes more accurate than Newton's formulas and were actually utilized by the Indian Space Research Organization and their

1:04endeavors to the moon. So this is fascinating. Before we get into this remind the audience just a bit about yourself and your contributions to the world of C60 oils and we'll get into a little bit of the benefits of that as well before we get too deep into these topics. Oh yeah I am I guess I'm C60 power. I kind of like the C60 guy. I've been around for years and years and of course you probably heard it. We got our C60 gummies. We've got our C60 products but it all really started. I was working on the metal oxygen fusion reactor project and needed a radiation protection. So I went out and found this stuff called carbon 60 and there's a lot of people dead professors and late PhDs associated with Moxie Fusion and which is what we call it today. It used to be called Lennor and cold fusion but it's solved. It's got solutions. It's got patents and it's got multiple third party verification. So that part's all finished but what it is after taking C60 because you know they gave one set of rats C60 the other didn't they hit him with the fatal dose of radiation and

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4:12Incredible product I still use it every day my pets use it if you want to learn more use the link right in the description and you still can get 10% off your entire order. Alright so let's get into some NASA blunders that most folks may have never even heard about. Well I guess the big one is Apollo 13. Of course you remember that it was gone the way to the moon and the oxygen tank blew up. Well I was talking to my dad who was actually in the Apollo programs like he'd probably talk about that later but what he'd said is that oxygen tank you know it had some internal stuff in it. What happens is they were building the Apollo 13 and one of the guys with the forklift had gone there to pick the tank up and was taking it out and it fell about six feet and hit the ground. And then they looked at it and it said oh it looks pretty good to me and they put it back on the pallet and it went into Apollo 13. Of course what those idiots didn't know is that there's a bunch of there was a bunch of

5:14internal stuff in that for valve regulation and things because you want to pack things up and so it was inside the thing so looking at it you know from the outside. Of course eventually NASA did after actually I think I was one that broke the story and NASA finally had to admit that that had actually happened. But they said it fell three inches right. Yeah never a straight answer. Yeah three inches straight. Let's address some of the conspiracies before we get too deep into some of the blunders because this is a conspiracy show and I know for a fact there are plenty of folks that not only question the NASA narratives and things coming out that are supposedly real pictures and real videos from the moon landing question that the moon landing even happened we have the flat earth conspiracies. So first of all let's address some of those moon landing conspiracies. Did we actually go and why is the footage that we see not matching up why is there so

6:18much inconsistencies and strange things that really point to at the least some doctorate footage. Oh yeah there is something well first off we did go to the moon and the Japanese have spent space crafts to the moon and they have taken pictures of the Apollo landing sites. Okay so and so have the Chinese so you can go out there and find you can find the Japanese photos I'm not sure how much the Chinese put up but but so you can actually do that so other people Russians have probably taken pictures too and they I don't know they don't post much anything ever so that well for that. So yeah we are there. Now they're actually and there actually was a moon video because they had on the first landing on the moon they weren't sure whether the people were survived and so for as a backup for that I think it was a Johnson and Nixon whoever I think it was Nixon that does that whatever it was. Anyway they actually did make a film because they were figuring if they landed on the moon and crashed what they do is they they made a film that they pretend that they had actually landed on the moon and then they were during the takeoff from the moon there

7:20was a terrible accident and the astronauts died in that way they could at least you know claim that they got there rather than they just crashed on the moon's surface but but no that's actually there they can they've people have seen the you can actually you know people other countries have sent their spacecraft to the moon you can see the landing sites so so it's there and also one of the things in the landing site they put up they put up these special mirrors that always reflect back the way you set them they're like a cubicle solid mirror and and they use a laser laser pulses from the earth will fire at this mirror on the moon and then of course the the light flights back and you can measure within like millimeters how far away the moon is from the earth and this is this is part of an ongoing science project and so you can actually you know you can go to a you can go to the place and see them do it or if you really had enough money you could go do it yourself so how did that reflective mirror get on the moon that you yourself can fire laser at and get a reflection back if if somebody hadn't put it there right so it's pretty obvious that's it yeah we went to the moon but you know there's a lot of things like like all

8:24the you know it's all the lunar photos actually go to a private corporation before they're released to us because it's illegal for certain ways for government to censor things but it's perfectly okay for private so you know I don't know if you remember Jose Esquimia and moon rising no okay yeah he was he's passed away but he was like one of those he made a lot of UFO films Roswell Rods and one of them was moon rising and the Celeste mission which was one of the first I think it was just an orbiter around the moon and then they released the photos but and you know because all kinds of objects and other things on the moon surface right people say alien bases and left over old ruins and things so there's a bunch of stuff up there and they don't want to see it but in the moon rising Jose Esquimia I think you can get you can get that stuff from guy if you want to buy it and is is back in the day when they did because he was a movie producer is what they did is they airbrushed up out right but they blend it they didn't understand the concept of blending it so they just brush out so you'd see like dome that was brushed out you'd see like a little

9:28square building that was brushed out so yes they brushed out all this strange anomalous stuff on the moon but they just brushed out the object they didn't blend it so you couldn't tell so you can actually go up there do you see all these you know these strange areas where you know you can see that it's been blended I mean it's not been blended but it's been brushed out but it's not been blended so you can see the silhouette of all the things they did and so there's a lot of their ruins and other stuff who knows maybe an active bases in the moon so would you say that's why what we see of the moon landing maybe a fabrication compared to what was really there yeah the other moon landings are probably more they could have I don't know if they used the fabrication or they they actually use the real leads from it it depends but they did have a film in reserve that they had made on on thing because my dad was in the NASA thing he actually I'll tell you how he got into the all of Paul Probe he but he was the expert in the Thor missile and so he had so like when Bluegill Prime had problems blown up on the pad they sent him out there to fix that

10:31situation that was vapor lock and the kerosene pumps but and then another time when genie missile kept got kept getting sabotaged they put him in charge of the genie missile program and he managed to get around the saboteurs who hadn't the end were just were actually aliens not comies and that's another story and then but so they sent him to the moon because what had happened is they they they they couldn't get enough thrust out of the Apollo one rocket the first stage to get to the moon and so they sent my dad there and my dad's there was sitting on a table with 12 Germans you know of Hornervan Braun and his his crew and he goes up you know he goes looking at the thing he says you know this just looks like a bunch of v ones put together and Hornervan Braun said that is exactly what it is but so they so they so they they needed four more percent thrust out of the rocket engines from the Saturn 5 but they couldn't get them and so my dad was there six months and I guess he can't really claim you know even though he's directing it the the fixing but one day one of the pumps fuel pumps broke and the the bearing bro the drives the driveshaft

11:36kind of broke and so the pump was just spinning free in the pipe and they got 7% more thrust oh wow so they just got rid of the pump and they put it a straight pipe and we went to the moon so I guess you know it's not quite a heroic way to get to the mood but that's that's how they that's the kind of one of the barrier that that got them to the moon so they got over it which is missed by accident well you hear the transmissions from the trip to the moon where the astronauts are saying that there are other objects kind of following them along yeah they call it Santa Claus and then the last time the Apollo 17 mission whenever when it was when the when the Apollo spacecraft left the earth moons gravity and then went into the earth's gravity you know because you could listen ham radio operators could listen in on this and a lot of them recorded it right so you could actually listen to the Apollo astronauts talking to NASA there wasn't any way they could censor that need say things like oh we see Santa Claus you know well yeah that worked you know exactly

12:39but there was a big transmission everybody on earth heard it and said do not return and so that's why we never went back from Apollo 17 and they actually made 20 Apollo's so there was three they were sitting around at one of my friends flew on one in on us on a special mission uh I can't talk about it he can someday so that that takes care of one of them but there still was two Apollo's left and I don't know what this what the Air Force used Air Force would took that that's why a lot of that NASA stuff disappeared about the Apollo about the Apollo stuff is because the Air Force went in there and cleaned out the documents because they had three Apollo's left right and they used one on a special mission that I know of and and they have two others and I don't know what they they might use those on other missions as well so because they 20 were built so that's so that's uh yeah with some maybe someday they'll finally learn about those other three missions all right well going back to the NASA blunders talk a little bit about the loss of

13:39a Mars orbiter oh yeah it was called the Mars Climate Orbiter and what it is they were sending it to Mars of course and Mars unlike the Moon has an atmosphere and so they have this maneuver called arrow breaking and that's where you just barely have the spacecraft touch the top of the atmosphere because it takes a lot of energy like if you want to show it slow down the spacecraft you'd have to like we have a bigger tank and all that kind of stuff so to get over those limitations you can just hit the very top of the atmosphere just right and it'll slow your spacecraft down with a you have a heat shield right so it doesn't burn up and you slows your spacecraft now just unjust enough to get into orbit and so that was the maneuver they were going to do with the Mars Climate Orbiter but what happened is you know blocking Martin which is down the street from me here is they have a lot of periodic mergers and acquisitions and you know they're corporate kind of a crooked corporate structure there and so kind of what happened is then in one of their periodic cost-cutting measures they basically had fired off all the mid-level people who were

14:42really the skilled people in it and they had to go elsewhere and really what they were left with is really young kids out of college right they're going to train up for cheaper labor and really really old guys that are like running the department right or running the division and the problem is a lot of these old guys they they go out they go on the old methods right they use foot pounds pre-metric kind of things that we use in the 60 and even into the 70s and a foot pound is less than a newton what the metric system uses a newton right newton metric system and it's basically the amount of energy it takes to raise a kilogram I believe one one meter whereas a foot pound is it just like it sounds it takes the amount of energy to raise a pound one foot right it's like a gravitational metric or amount of energy and so what happened is you know the guys from JPL which is in California and they call their younger guys and they all use newtons right they're all

15:44in the metric system that's their total thing so for to get the insertion orbit the guy from JPL calls up the guy in in in Locky Martin who's just an older than you know oldest dirt kind of guy who uses foot pounds and so he says how much thrust do we need to get to get into orbit so the old guy tells the young guy the amount in foot pounds but the young guy doesn't even know what foot pounds is or even understands there's that problem so he punches that in newtons oh no and they don't really know what happened to the Mars climate orbiter did it bounce off the atmosphere because it came in too hard it bounced off or did it burn up in Mars atmosphere and you know and and impact the surface somewhere as fragments we really don't know but that's that that little mistake you know I was like a three hundred million dollar mistake or something so right that's not the old one there's also the more Mars polar lander yeah yeah the Mars polar lander was another one they were going to send there and they're going to kind of land it near as Mars poles now the problem

16:45is it comes back to my gravitational formulations yeah is that when when Newton was a great guy and when he did is he he you know math is not reality math poorly describes reality and so you have to use abstractions so what Newton did with his formulations is he shrunk the entire earth its volume and its mass into an infinitesimal abstract point right it's an abstraction and then let's say we shrink the moon into an infinitesimal point and between and then from because we have two infinitesimal points we can actually measure measure gravity between them right but the problem with the Newton measure is that from that infinitesimal point a perfectly spherical gravitational field spreads out from it and in the a's of sailing ships that's perfectly fine but in in the in the age of spacecraft it doesn't work quite so well and like for instance the earth because it spins it's a little wider around the equator than it is between the poles because you know kind of bulges out right it's not

17:47and so but if you use Newton's things a perfectly spherical gravitational field comes out with your math right that's your math and then obviously the gravitational field is not perfectly spherical now Mars is actually more oblate than the earth the earth is about 0.3% Mars is 0.5% so when they were doing the calculations for landing on Mars I actually went back after the Mars polar landed failed and looked at what they were using and they were using strict Newtonian values right which means that grad they were estimating gravity higher than it actually was at the at the area they were landing on Mars near the pole there that's why they called the Mars polar lander so what happened is when you come into Mars obviously they have what they do is they come in and they have an aerobrate because it's kind of an atmosphere right so just kind of like a lot of our stuff so you come in and they have the aerobrate comes on it slows down the craft and when it slows down enough you have some parachutes pop off and even though Mars atmosphere is thin the parachutes work and then

18:48the craft slows down even more in the parachutes till it gets about four kilometers above the surface and then the parachutes kick loose and then the and then the retro rockets burn and in the Mars polar lander they were going to have the retro rockets burn till they're about you know somewhere 10 meters above the surface or and and then the the final like guidance would come in and would land it right well the problem was if you calculate gravity up to a half a percent up a more stronger than it is that means your thrust is more right you're burning more and so when you when it finally kicks on the when the I guess the guidance control kicks on a few meters above the surface instead of being 10 meters above the surface of Mars it's now could be a hundred meters above 200 meters above the surface of Mars and that basically we don't really know what happened did did it did it did it overcome the mission parameters and the computer just shut down did did it run on a fuel trying to land we don't know NASA gives a lame

19:51excuse but you know never a straight answer so you can't believe that but in the meantime you know I knew Dr. Peter Smith and he was running the Phoenix lander and it's exactly the same as the Mars polar lander I mean exact same platform a couple different instruments but and they're all going to land in the same area so he used to go to the Mars Society meetings like I did and so I knew him we've got and sitting drink drink bears with some of the other guys and they talk about what the great aliens they were working with they're doing it allowed yeah sometimes when you get to the the back things and all the scientists get together and start drinking they tell stories huh so that's uh you know the ones that are working for yeah anyway alcohol is the way I do with that so we're gonna have to come back to that later but yeah but that uh so they uh since I do him so I gave him I sent him a letter you know I gave him call a sent him a letter with all the information now he didn't uh he couldn't believe that JPL and NASA could not get gravity right in Mars but uh I don't think he used my mathematical formulations but uh what he did do is when the when the unlike the Mars polar lander the minute that that parachute kicked on

20:56retro rocket engine started four kilometers he made sure that the radar alternative was working right there he put guidance control the minute the minute that that engine turned on guidance control was on and so it guided the spacecraft down and landed on Mars successfully it's exactly platform just just so he just changed the programming a little bit because he didn't want it to fail well this leads to some of the gravitational formulas that you discovered I'd like to hear all about this and how you came across it well what I did is I was uh I was basically I was doing my master's thesis the retention of magnetic fields on rotating terrestrial planets through the actions of a close large orbital partner and basically what it is is uh if we had the if the moon Earth was suddenly to be here I guess we're real close but basically if we had the moon right the moon if the moon kind of pulls the inner core of the earth off center and because the the earth rotates faster than the moon orbits it causes the inner core of the earth to rotate faster than the rest

21:57of the planet and that gives that creature uh that creates the friction and currents that create the Earth's magnetic field in fact I predicted that the Mourin's core would rotate faster than the Earth's core would rotate faster than the rest of the planet before it was actually discovered to do so just to let there there it goes you know I'm actually I don't think it's posted online I could give it to one of the people out there listening want to want to uh get that I'll set it to him for free it's that's it's just uh I was I haven't really posted it anywhere but uh so that was I was doing it and uh the problem was because Newton has that perfectly spherical gravitation but I went to do I wanted to put all these whistles and bells in it and uh and say look at this here it is there and I discovered the Newton's formulation was totally worthless to do any of that because it makes these perfectly spherical gravitational fields and the way they actually plot gravity on the Earth's surface is just like a fitted curve they have this formulation with the fitted curve it has nothing to do with any parameters of the Earth and so I started making I said oh I can fix yes so I started working on formulations to do it and but my master's uh thesis doctor whitecoff

22:58said don't do that your thesis is radical enough without trying to introduce a bunch of new gravitational formulations so I just finished the the thesis without them and then uh then I finished up the formulations and they've been around for two and a half decades okay so it's not like they they're they're it's nothing new I have them posted on research gate if you go to my site on research gate just type in my name and uh you can you can read them there I'll send you some links we could probably put them in the poster itself and what I all I did is I did it was like Newton what I did is it's Newton made an infinitesimal point right so what I did is I turned the planet into an infinitesimal line that goes across the planet the diameter of the planet depending on what angle it is and so I just went from an infinitesimal point to an infinitesimal line and that's allows me to get free magnitudes more accurate so you can get you can actually calculate the gravity of earth or Mars or anywhere two almost exact values you know using the physical parameters of the planet itself or the physical parameters of the moon itself and and so that's just so it's it's

24:02really just another abstraction and you can drive Newton's formulation from my formulation if you break it down so it's it's it's the same thing basically I just say it's the same. The emulations were actually used for a mission to the moon oh yeah they used them but then and but they weren't very accurate and and so but in the case that's why that's why you know when Neil Armstrong is and that's probably where I should probably bring in the whole moon thing here is you know I thought people think the moon is a sphere it's actually kind of egg shaped and so you know it's the moon is really it's it's egg shaped we look at it this way right if we were looking at the moon it looks round but if we were actually an orbit and looked at the moon this is of course greatly exaggerated the moon's kind of egg shaped with the bigger part of the egg facing the earth right it kind of bulges out so it kind of leads us it's it's it's what's called a pro late it's kind of a pro late body and so that's kind of how the moon is and and that's the first thing you got to do for calculating the gravity on the earth because the earth is oblate it's like

25:02spins and so it's wider across the equator than it is between the poles but the moon being the pro late it's farther across the poles than it is across the equator and so the first thing you need to do but when you're gonna land on the moon or any gravitational locked planet you have to change the poles now when we went to the moon and and the way that they have it now if you look at like a moon globe they they gave the moon a north pole and a south pole and then they put latitude and longitudes around that which is you know because that's the way we do it on the earth and it's correct because the earth is a rotate rotates and they put the north pole in the south pole at the rotational axis right and then they do the latitude and longitude from that well which is okay but the moon isn't that the moon's pro late it's gravitation locked and so when you want to do mapping on the moon the poles you want is like the point closest to the earth right that's called the near earth point or the near planet point and then the point farthest those at the point farthest from the earth that's the far earth point those the two poles and then the equator like the the edge that we see from the earth is actually the equator of the moon right and so it's kind of weird

26:06doing this because I have to look at the thing so it's and so that's what you got to do so you got to do that and so first you have to map the moon so so instead of being you know a moon north south pole you got this equator and then you do your latitudes and longitudes from from that and then once you get that that's the first thing you got to do you got to remap the moon with you know the near earth pole and the far earth pole and the rim is the equator and and then you can put my math and sim and land successfully on the moon which is what the ISRO did and you remember the that there's a big race for the moon here recently last year and it's actually a moral lesson because the first one was the Indians lost their 1003 probe which I was actually a lecture what happened is that it was it was I think in March of last year or May of last year or I think was May and is that their ice space had sent their probe to the moon and crashed and and ice space is a private Japanese company but it kind of works with the the Japanese government

27:09the US government you know there's kind of a public private partnership there and so he had it crashed and so I said oh man I wonder why it did that and I looked at it and I said oh these people should you know I figured it was it was the math they were doing and some some metrics problems and so I should probably you know I should contact and I was looking on it and I realized they their headquarters even though it was a Japanese company it was like 10 miles from where I live ah it was out it was out of the airport nearby wow centennial airport and so and so I said well that's crazy so I wrote up the papers and stuff and sent it and went by and just dropped them off and I know they gave it to the I know it worked its way up to the you know the Japanese government part of things whether they used internet because the Japanese did spend a space probe but maybe it it encouraged them to do it in the meantime when I was doing that I was looking at and I I discovered well the the Indians are about to spend a space probe to the moon and their organization called the ISRO and and there it was going to it was like a month two month and a half away and but I'm not

28:13going to tell how but I have contacts within the Indian Space Research Organization or people that are associated with that so we sent it off to them and they they said thank you and they sent us a cool video of it taking off that's anyway and and so the the ISRO but the but the ISRO the the Indians do you know things very precision wise like for instance they they sent you know for that remember that cost interstellar that movie interstellar yeah yeah I don't know how many hundreds of billions of dollars it was but the Indians actually built a rocket built a space probe sent it to Mars and it's an Indian has it in orbit it's a weather satellite in orbit around India for less money than that than that movie wow so you know the Americans make fantasy movies about you know going space where the Indians actually go out and and make something that's real that's actually is there so so they but they have a very they have a differ they have a very been methodological way of doing it so what they did is when they took it off in the earth it went around the earth

29:16like four or five times each time getting a little bit more energy to finally it went to the moon and then it was it was going four or five times around the moon before it was you know slowing down gradually adjusting and before it came down to land successfully near the moons quote south pole actually it's the the lower quadrant to the equator but that's that's you know that's what the so I I said to them about you know because the key is the mapping you got to map the moon correctly and with the near earth pole the farth pole and and then you can do the mass any mass would work better but you got to do the mapping first but in the meantime the Russians had spies in the Indian space or research organization and they had discovered the new they they already had the new formulations but they didn't know how to map the moon correctly and and that kind of stuff so so they decided they were going to beat the Indians to the moon so they pulled this space probe that they lunar lunar land or they'd had sitting on sitting gathering dust for like 10 years or whatever and they stuck it on a rocket and they launched it straight at the moon right they didn't

30:18take any four or five orbits and they were going to race the Indians to the south pole the moon and land successfully but when they were trying to insert around the moon I guess they got into one orbit and then they were going to fire the rockets and oh this is what they said what happened is that they is that because you know all the guys had worked on it had gone away right they'd been gone for 10 years right they went on a new job so they had these other guys running it and they were they say there was a software glitch and instead of burning like you know 37 seconds or whatever it was it burnt like 108 seconds and so what happened is basically impacted on the surface of the moon they couldn't do a double insert and so so it was kind of like the tortoise in the hair the Indians were like the tortoise and successfully crossed the finish line where the Russians were like the hair and it would crash crash their spacecraft or the moon so it was a but Putin was good about it and congratulated the Indians so that was it and then in the meantime which is the Japanese sent that they pulled their spacecraft their lunar lander out of mothballs and sent it to the moon and we're going to land near the south pole of the moon but

31:23but what happened is we don't know you know whether they use the math or not or the mapping of the moon or not but because what happened is that the thing was land in the the the the Japanese have a we're using these metallic ceramic metallic thrusters on the little nozzles on the end of the rocket engines and one of them apparently snapped off several meters above landing and so the the probe tried to adjust but it ended up upside down which is unfortunate and but what the one the other one that the people that never listened to us which is NASA so we don't even waste time talking to those losers because they're they're all about you know I don't have a PhD I just have a master so you know who are we and so they didn't of course listen to us never will and the US military course uses my math that's that's another thing it's another story but anyway for their ballistic missiles I mean without my math no anti-soddling missile system works basically for anti-missile missile system that's anyway that's another thing now it's from remember this thing's over a cork two and a half decades old and that's not happened decades ago

32:28but so what happened is when the they were sent they sent there's a public private thing called the Odyssey moon blender and so it was kind of come into the land at the moon but problem is if if gravity near the quote south pole of the moon which is the lower quadrant of the equator is actually higher than what you would calculate using Newtonian and so what they there is no atmosphere on the moon to slow you down so they have nothing but electronics so what's going to happen is they put radar altimeters on the spacecraft right that tells it how far above the moon it is but it can't it can't adjust for horizontal motion so when you make the gravity would you make gravity higher than it actually is right it's like you made the surface come up so what you want to do when you come down the land you want to make sure your horizontal vertical motion are perfectly zero and you hit exactly right in your land successfully well if you make it come up higher you can you with the radar altimeter you can adjust the vertical thing but you can't adjust the horizontal speed so the spacecraft came in with some horizontal speed and it just

33:31fell off on its side that's why the Odyssey fell over its side because they couldn't adjust because they don't know how to do gravitational form they don't know how to do calculate gravity correctly on the moon so they couldn't adjust for horizontal motion and of course they crashed on its side and that's actually why a lot of lunar spacecraft have failed on the moon because they can't really they they can't calculate gravity fact when the first Apollo the first space landing on the moon right when Neil Armstrong was landing they had more gravity because if you're actually on the near point of the earth which is where they landed near here there's actually gravity is actually lower than what is estimated by Newton's formulations and so that was the extra fuel because he had he was coming down to land and there was all these boulders and rocks in the way and so he had to move it to another space and he said where did the extra fuel come from it should have read out a fuel and crash well that's because gravity was less and so anyway that's the that's the story of it and that's why we landed successfully on the moon the first time just because they couldn't

34:34calculate gravity correctly if they'd actually done it they might have had to abort the mission but right well i'd love to get your thoughts on some theories that i've heard over the years about the moon about what the moon could be i've heard everything from it maybe an artificial satellite that was not always here to of course it being hollow in the center and maybe contains some sort of life forms or humanoids that reside there what are your thoughts on some of these well i don't know if you know the future forecasting group right dick olgyre yeah yeah yeah they did a recent one on that you'd go on youtube and they have part of it of course you have to go become a private member to see it all and back to discovered a granite pluton in the moon which is kind of unusual because we have granite plutons here and they're you know they make the big mountains but they form underneath the surface and then they kind of move up and solidify but they also have a lot of water in them because water has to be associated with it so they

35:35went and looked at a crater right above where this granite pluton because it's also warmer because the plutons they tend to have potassium in it they take a lot of the potassium and potassium is radioactive there's a lot of potassium 40 so it's kind of it gets a lot of so it's more radioactive than the rest of the moon and it was also warmer and they could actually tell that by you know their surveys of the surface but also when the granite pluton forms you should have water and sulfur dioxide and other things coming off the surface which if in the moon they could have gone up you know they kind of be like hot water rains going up and then they probably like deposit when they hit a colder surface above the moon they would deposit so there might be ice deposits deep under and they did a thing and they saw these humanoid people living in like an industrial plant down there so it's it's on it's I don't know what the name it's on the which would be exactly because if you wanted to look for minerals and metals and and gases such as you know uh water you could get water and all that that would be the place you want to be so they saw some sort of underground mining going

36:35on and uh which which makes sense because if you were going to do mining on the moon that's the only place you would do it so deep mining so we're probably going to we've got to get to the aliens I heard you mentioned earlier scientists that may have had a little bit too much to drink and say too much talking about working with gray extraterrestrials is that correct? well they were just they were they were government agents people that worked in the government laboratories and stuff and yeah they have they have interactions with them and they were they were sharing technology the little extraterrestrials would share technology they're not they're kind of like disposable units they're like they're like clone units that's so they're real the real masters don't come down probably hanging out with the earthlings but they send their they're kind of uh biobots down to work with humans right now they you sent me also an incident about how possibly aliens sabotage the genie missile program oh yeah yeah that's that's kind of

37:36a funny program yeah the genie missile program if you go and you can affect all of suddenly you can you could go online the YouTube and you can see my dad fly wing he's the wingman on when they launched it was a it was a surface it was an air to air missile and it had a three kiloton nuke on it and it would could be fired from the bottom of the jet at another aircraft and allegedly they were going to be used to uh to to to shoot down Soviet bombers because the Soviets were going to fly their bombers in in fleets right into the United States and they would fire one of these genies and blow up the whole fleet of Soviet bombers not that the Soviets would be that stupid you know they would fly them separately and the problem is the Soviets didn't even have 100 bombers at the time yet they made 3,000 genie missiles right so so the the claim is what it is but uh let us say that they were designed to shoot down flying saucers because they figure even if they couldn't do anything if you could you know they can't you know it's like horseshoes and hand grenades you know if you get close you get some points so that's basically why it was built

38:39but so my dad didn't know about that at the time and everything but so the genie missile project so it was uh you know they were building it and it had been uh sabotaged again and again and so my dad had been like the special in the Thor missile which is uh and and ran that program six helped that thing in blue guild prime so they put him in there because he kind of run programs and to do that and so what his thing he knew was going to be sabotaged it'd been sabotaged before a couple of times so what he did is he had two missiles being built he had like the public missile that everybody could see behind glass and the people out there working on it and he had another missile being built in a back room and he's the only one that had a key to the door and had a pretty heavy security on that so when they work on the first missile they get it working and everything running and then they would secretly go to the second room and and put it in which made it go faster because it's you know they'd already got some experience and so finally you know you have the two missiles were built finally it was like the day before it was going to be used and of course that was the day that they knew that uh they were going to the saboteurs were going to kind of go after it right and so they put the kind of the the the the public missile out now

39:44it'd been on several pallets out in this public place and they had some you know it was in a concrete place with strings and they had put like warning tape and barriers and and stuff all around it but it was it was like bait right it was bait because they were because they had the real missile hidden away and this is the bait missile so the saboteurs would go after the bait and not go after the real one right so they just were planning and so so they had put up tape and barrier signs and fences and all this stuff right which made it virtually impossible for anybody to get to the missile right you got to work pretty hard at it and uh but but this is what happened during the night one of the guys in the warehouse right that moved things around he got this sudden urge he needed to get the pallets from underneath the missile right that's what the that's what that was the excuse he did even though there were pallets available in the warehouse so what and so this guy goes up in there and he he roost all the tape and the barriers and stuff right and there was guards around the second missiles room but they didn't have any guards around the bait missile right

40:46because that's how you do things and so the guy goes in there and he roost all the barriers and stuff and the tape and test them do a whole bunch of work to do this go past the signs do not touch this missile go do not go away this do stay away top you know whatever and then he goes in there to lift the missile off to get the pallet and of course the missile tips off and falls and gets damaged and and then the the general comes in the next day says oh my god my career's over the missiles destroyed oh what am I gonna do my dad says oh don't worry that's not that's just the show missile this is the real missile and he goes in and he opens the door and shows it to him he didn't even told the general running the program who was my dad was a major back then who what was really going on because he didn't know where the bleak was right and of course this warehouse guy you know that runs the forklift they they they took him away and probably subjected him to enhanced interrogation techniques and and the thing was when they were done and ants enhanced interrogating him they could not figure out he wasn't being paid by the commies he wasn't being they just couldn't

41:48find any reason it's like somebody took over his mind and and and had him do that and probably what it is if we could dig up his carcass wherever it is if it you dig it buried and look at his brain I'll bet you'd find some sort of chips because you know this missile was made basically to shoot down flying saucers in aliens spacecraft it had been it was a nuclear missile had been sabotaged time and time again and then it got sabotaged the last one but my dad out-switted the aliens so if you can go online I'll give you the link and you can I think I gave it to earlier and you can actually see him fly wingman because he thought because some of the guys that worked in the program all because they were going to blow it up in the air like it's launched from the aircraft that it blows up in the high altitude like I don't know 20,000 feet or whatever so these guys all decided to get on ground zero on the ground and have like a party and and then the missile would blow up above them you know the nuclear bomb my dad thought that was kind of stupid he'd rather be in the airplane yeah my reason control rather than because he has his old fire pilot

42:50and and transport pilot for the back so he was up there flying the wingman on the guy that actually launched the missile and so then you can see you could actually see the the fools down there at ground zero you know and they have their glasses on and then there's the big explosion they could boom and then they get out their cigars and start smoking the general wasn't smog didn't figure that was a bad idea too yeah it was the younger officers who had more had more balls than cents so that's how yeah that was like one sabotage operation that uh that the aliens didn't get now could it have been possible that it may have just been a foreign adversary that was using some kind of technology to influence them that was the 50s right hmm late 50s and there was really wasn't anybody that had any technology like that or even like the the mind control other stuff because we have our guys we had the Frankfurt school and the MK Ultra dudes right back then so they could they definitely you know some of them you know and some ex-daughters probably they can

43:52probably they have we have ways of interrogating them correctly yeah so they don't they worked the guy over and they couldn't there was nothing there it was not a foreign adversary and they made three thousand of these things right with the nukes on the little tip on them you know they the Russians didn't have a hundred bombers right so why do you make need three thousand of them right so yeah it was definitely designed to fight alien invasion you know because you could fire nukes at them and uh so but uh so that you know so it did go through and we could get our little anti-flying saucer nukes so so it was successful in that case well while we're in alien territory still i've heard all the theories about how our military is possibly involved with extra terrestrial intelligence but i'd love to hear your thoughts on how long we've possibly had this relationship and what's the benefit to them to the extra terrestrials well i think there's a whole bunch of different extra terrestrials i have uh we could talk i didn't really get into those books we could

44:55pull out the it's called the friendship case yeah i heard about the friendly yeah that's that's probably one and and that one you know you have several different groups and they're all fighting each other you know over uh you know they have the human agents a lot of them have human agents because you can't do that like and they have one group as the agents of the reptiles probably and then they have these other humans or agents for others and they're all battling you know it's but sometimes they work together right for things that so so you didn't really know it's it's it's several groups what it is it's not just one it's kind of i mean imagine you know as so above so below as without so within you know that that kind of thing and so i think you know earth is like one of those third world countries maybe an island country right during the Cold War and so you've got like you got the the Soviets right and the Americans are you know trying to get control of that country for its resources and strategic value but then you also got things like the British and the Chinese right and and maybe corporations so you get all of

45:55these multiple corporations so you know the Americans and the British probably work together sometimes right to fight off the Soviet stuff but you know there might be corporate interest where British corporations aren't going to be are going to be wanting to do different things so they'll be at sometimes they'll be in conflicts so i think it's something very similar to that we have multiple multiple species in each one has a various agendas and some of the agendas are just you know screwing the other ones over and preventing them from getting you know a football so it's really hard to tell other than you know you read these stories and obviously they're fighting each other on the earth but then they also have a have you know things to keep the humans under control so there's things that they they agree with things they did disagree with but they're definitely in competition sometimes deadly competition with each other but sometimes they cooperate on other things so it's it's it's it's it's it's sort of like that so it's sort of like an extra trust with a cold war kind of situation going on i've heard you mentioned the tall whites before and i think you've witnessed these beings being escorted somewhere and they were very confrontational

47:02didn't want to be touched by whoever they were being escorted is that right yeah no that's that's no that's one that's another group up i'm not really too familiar with them i can't understand what's on as in data but uh but they're they just they have evidently their planet or rotates exactly takes twice as long or rotate as ours so their day is twice as virtually twice as long as ours and so they seem to have they've been around forever and they do seem to work with the u.s. government but they don't seem to get the most advanced kinds so they they have some and and jay widener saw one of them in the Denver airport right i think that's the story you were telling me how they were yeah with some government-looking officials being escorted somewhere well jay widener could do that but basically it was a it was a female and she had the problem is they come from a planet with low gravity and so they really struggle on earth even the ones that was born there that's probably the one that was born she actually works for the u.s. government i think for the c.i.a. or something she was she was born in the time of japh they lived like 800 years or something and she

48:05was born at the time of president atoms on earth so i guess she she's an american citizen maybe in this case a legal alien now uh so so uh that was probably her because uh they just have a hard time dealing with earth's gravity even if they were born here it's just they're not really designed well for it but they're at the top of these feuding powerful families that there is some sort of extraterrestrial race above them kind of pulling strength yeah well there's the one they have they have one of the technologies they have is a technology that can extend their lifespan to centuries and human life spans as well and so in that in the friendship case they have the w-56s which is the good guys supposedly but they're actually not so good guys and then there's the other the contrast that and not so the bad guys who aren't not so bad guys and and anyway these guys uh the interesting thing is that the hierarchy is by height and so they have this technology and there's even a guy that got kicked out

49:08of their organization he didn't really go high and uh my castra and fits talks about this one these the um these same people is they you have a technology that can keep you eternally young but it has a side effect is that it causes your growth plates and your bones to reactivate so every year you you you live you get a little bit taller it's like a crocodilian growth and and see that's one of the things so when you look at their home and they probably work for the rep one of the reptoid groups this this particular ones and in the Italian case and so like the top guy was over 10 feet tall and he was the boss or no he was like 12 feet tall then there's some guys are like 10 feet tall they're like second in charge and then guys are 8 feet tall and then so the hierarchy in the organization is entirely due to height we don't see that in human society but we do see hierarchy by age and in this case height and age are corresponds and so that's why we see that hierarchy and so they were talking about the one when uh cathandarus and fits talks about this one guy he was going to he was at the IMF right the international monetary fund meaning and he accidentally went into the wrong

50:13room right so he was he was kind of a staff dude but also a thing and so he goes in there and he's sitting there and like the top IMF guys are around a table and in the front of the table there's this eight and a half foot humanoid talking to them right it's one of these friendship group out yeah so these guys are manipulating our society and they they you know that's if I guess I could grab the books later we could talk about that we could do a special show on that but basically they they're just a bunch of bullshit lying manipulators and they had that friendship case they got all these guys from Italy and they're telling well we're here to help you and we're your friends we're the good guys and you know the whole skew and and you know they had them all do these ridiculous stipe hunt you know things or them do that but it was really they were just using them and manipulating and understanding how to control humans and then and then finally they went away but they really didn't go away and and then the guy writes as a book friendship he writes at 50 years later and he realizes 50 years after is all over they were kind of getting used and it was they were being manipulated and used and you know and I mean but you know these guys did they

51:16paid in platinum they paid this one guy Brettio who was the main character protagonist in the story over 425 pounds of platinum oh wow that's a lot of money I should have built this here yeah he'd had to build these special they built a special villa for them because these guys are 8.5 foot tall so they had built this whole villa for that they could come and hang out at you know where for you know 9 foot 12 people so so that's and clip I mentioned that too he mentioned he was he was looking to buy a house on the west coast and he went to this house and everything was like giant sized it's like the toilets were gigantic the the counters were gigantic like the counters came up the mid chest on him the kitchen counter right yeah everything was just like super sized and he then the thing was if you buy the house all the these things are going away they're going to take them with them is obviously custom built and then they'll put in regular size to stuff and they said oh they were really tall people basketball players right that was the excuse right but they never

52:17saw any pictures of them anything so well speaking of high his web op prediction according to that we are entering sci fi age where there will be possible contact with these beings or that at least the general public will be fully aware that they exist somehow and there's a lot happening right now of course you hear the drone stories and then on top of that you see the videos of the weird plasmas that seem to be at war with the drones very interesting things happening right now I'd love to get your thoughts on all that well cliff high and these other people the future forecast people looked into it you know the remote viewers and they actually saw something like that happening they actually saw it but what I think what's happening is there is some sort of extraterrestrial you know program going on but then to cover up the US is they're bringing out these these drones which are obviously ours right yeah they you know they have they have the red and green lights and blinking lights and propellers right you know they're not from outer space okay so they think they've

53:21got two things going on you you probably do have some sort of extraterrestrial actions going on that are like getting people's attention but to cover that up to muddy the waters they put their own drones out there to kind of like so is it an alien is it a drone you know and then so if you look at it it's it's you can't really tell right because what is it right is it it's it's it's a drone and people most people just discount it all completely because they you know they'll just call it a drone yeah it's the same way when there was UFO sightings you know they get the come out and they call it swap gas the planet Venus or you know they they'd ridicule the person right or whatever it's just it's just a way of mudding the waters on what's really going on not that I know what's really going on but there does seem to be some sort of you know there is from the people in the know there's some sort of like the certain groups of aliens are tired of like there's like aliens and a lot of humanity succeed and there's ones that let me keep us there slaves and you know the first thing that's why they don't want humans ever to know that they

54:21aliens exist or one group because you know if humans ever came to understand that aliens really did exist at a mass it would be like two weeks later they'd figure out oh we've actually been being controlled by aliens for you know the last five thousand years right because you look at some of the Samaritan paintings right or the Samaritan things they have these really tall guys you know the people are small and they say oh they're just doing that because those guys are like the rulers well not if these guys are using that life extension technology because they had this one guy he was going to Harvard and he got into Harvard you know it's certain ways and and then but he was running to make money there he was running scams and stuff and you know making money on the side very you know let's say you know questionable but effective and so finally these guys in black came to you know black suits and stuff they came to him and he thought they were FBI agents and he was getting busted and they said no no we are kind of we respect your initiative and we kind of like we would like to hire guys like you and so eventually you know they did an interview process and finally he decided yeah he'd become part of it and so he goes to like they go out to a someplace out there

55:25in Boston right right and he goes into a basement and and the guy say okay we're done you know you know you know these signs of stuff and he says well welcome to the group and then out of a door opens up and this eight and a half foot guy comes out it's probably Kenyans the guy's name he seems to be the the these the guy Kenyans was probably the guy talking in front of the the IMF and maybe this guy and you know introduces himself it says welcome to the team right but eventually this guy got kicked out of the team because he was just a little too unethical and you know make it a little bit too on the side for himself you know and so he got kicked out they didn't kill him or anything but then he just recounts his stories somebody I I haven't recorded somewhere on my data but who knows I'd take it take a day to take it out so I mean so these guys exist and that technology exists and they all seem to use it that's why you have you know these the the extraterrestrial seem you know they live 800 years and they get taller and taller each time but they also see it like Saint Germain remember the story of Saint Germain there's this guy he knows that I speak all these language he doesn't eat the food but he'd you know occasionally take a glass of wine but he

56:27does all this knowledge about history like he was actually there and every time people see him he gets a little bit taller and taller and taller and until finally he disappears but he's he's come back well I mean he was there's even a Saint Germain type guy at the formation of the United States of America he was hanging out with the founding fathers with the pubs and giving him a little things and it was like the same guy right he's a different group than these other than the W 56ers that's interesting he's usually attributed to like vampire lore but I've never really heard him compared to extraterrestrials which is interesting yeah because he's he well he's got that technology that technology you use it you get taller and taller each time and like they had one where there was going to be a plane crash because these aliens extraterrestrials actually can kind of like future forecast and so they get like a they got like a body double and these are not nice people right because they have like operatives where they they put they put butts in their brains this is back in the 50s and like they needed a taxi driver and all of a sudden this taxi driver would

57:29just appear out of nowhere and pick them up and then drive them and then he'd drive back and and they were like ordinary Italians right that they'd program they they'd have some sort of mind control they could just use them for their purposes if they need a taxi driver you the guy probably didn't have any family he they could just take him over he'd go here to pick somebody up and take him here to pick up and he was just like totally zombie mind control and so they did that to somebody they knew this plane was going to crash or maybe they crashed it and they had one of their guys their operatives that that they had working for them you know because what happens is you never age and you get a little bit taller every year right and so after a while you know if you're there really long and they're never like they're the assistant to the assistant secretary right or the assistant to the CEO right there always not the top leadership but the right right next to and it's going to be kind of hard to explain why you haven't aged for 20 years and you're getting taller all the time so what happens is this guy was supposed to take this plane flight but they actually got like a body double to go take the plane flight so plane crashes and they identify

58:30this guy in the plane crash record right it's one of the guys that died the plane crash but the guy didn't die he actually went on to another operation so they'll take him to another part of the planet give Mahoo a whole new name a whole new identity and put him into the local community as like a spy manipulator so you know he went from Italy to maybe you know Argentina right and they'd have him where he worked there 10 or 15 years and then there'd be an accident or something where he'd die right and and they would never find the body or something right or the body's terribly just figured right and then they have by that time and eventually you go to tall when you're getting about seven feet tall it's kind of hard to explain why you're so tall so then they go work underground in these underground bases where they work behind screens they get back then they're work behind screens and manipulating things right they're obviously intelligence operation of some sort on manipulating and humans and fighting the other people who are manipulating humans right and so and then as you get oh if you live long enough you eventually you know when you get to eight and a half feet tall then you're the guy talking in front of the IMF you're the guy bringing new people into

59:33the organization and then when you're 10 to half feet tall you have the guy running the organization and at some point you might even have to leave the planet because at that time you have problems Andre the giant had problems so maybe you go off world to like you know the moon or a lower gravity planet where you know you're now a super boss for the aliens but you know they claim and they had an off-world human type civilization with 600,000 people yet they were using all this super advanced technology that you need a society of many many millions if not billions of people to create right when you have super high tech 600,000 people can't make an advanced high tech technology that's ridiculous but these guys are using all this high tech so obviously they're working for somebody else a bigger society a bigger organization they're not the ones that came up with that technology they're just they're just workers they're agents on the earth because they look human they are humans and some of them from off-world humans are living off-world so there's obviously an off-world human population of those guys who get too tall and then some of them come back to earth and then

1:00:33some of them are one recruited from earth right who eventually if they live long enough will you know become part of that organization we got a few minutes left we had some technicalities we're back can we say in too much as usual so in closing how do you feel about where we're headed with this return administration the orange emperor UFOs the reclaiming of new lands and everything that is poised to unfold during the next four years what are your thoughts well I uh I think uh I think it's going to be pretty you know the remote viewers see a whole lot of changes coming and you know Trump you know the the alternative was just their malevolent evil was pure Trump yes Trump is a hell yes exactly so Trump isn't like mr. perfect right he's so much better than the alternative any speaks his own mind he's his own person good or bad and so I think that's we we are under better administration than we would be under the psychos I mean not that Biden

1:01:38was running anything ever he's just he was just a zombie who's did what he was told you know and it was just insulting actually to have him running the well he wasn't running anything it was just insulting the whole fraud that was there yeah so but I think yeah I think there is some sort of uh big changes coming the woo it's kind of like the woo change right the old order is going away and the new ones coming up I mean if we look at the United States you can't go on I mean the amount of uh just just the interest on the national debt now because the way they've been hyperinflating the size of it is more than the tax the tax income they got a roll over ten ten trillion dollars a short-term bonds this year and it's going to be like five and a half six percent and about the end of the year uh well my interest we got to pay on the bonds is more than that all the taxes come that that's not continuous either you've got hyperinflation or you crash the economy yeah right or they go to a super war right so that's yeah so I mean things are going to change we are at a a period of massive and rapid change and it appears that also that maybe extra-trustful

1:02:40forces are are you're going to be intervening in a direct sense more than they've had before because maybe it's reached a point that you know for the planet and uh other things where you know they obviously value the planet as uh as a functioning organism and uh they don't want it to crash either so they're just you know I think it's coming to a head in many different ways and we're going to see massive changes I think in two thousand twat 25 and to eat moving especially into two toward two thousand twenty seven it's a hell of a time to be alive I'll tell you that much yes it is so get by extra popcorn and get ready for the unexpected right on well Ken thank you so much fantastic information as usual I'll have all your links in the description and well that today I want to welcome Elizabeth Hancock she is a researcher and author specializing in spirituality metaphysics and consciousness she is a dedicated truth seeker and focuses on the nature of reality lost history secret societies and our star ancestry Elizabeth welcome how you doing

1:03:47yeah I'm good thanks thank you for inviting me on it's great to be here it's great to have you I am very much looking forward to this discussion your research covers everything from metaphysics and spirituality to lost history and the multi-dimensional nature of reality this is all some of our favorite topics here and just in the past couple of years there seems to have been a noticeable increase in the interest in some of these topics which also unfortunately comes with a lot of misinformation to sift through but it does seem like more people than ever are seeking answers and becoming aware that there may be much more to this reality than our mainstream science and academia whatever acknowledge now so there's a lot to discuss I'm really interested in your research before we get into it this is your first time on tell us a little bit about yourself and what brought you to this work okay so yeah so I mean you know I think like most kids I was very intuitive and you know

1:04:50then society just sort of blocks you down you know and I think what we sort of call intuitive is probably the multi-dimensional self which you know we are born as that multi-dimensional self which we all are and then society which you know it just doesn't quite know how to deal with this you know it just shuts children down you know whether it's parents fear whether it's religion education I mean just everything everything in our society shuts down this multi-dimensional you know sort of human that we are and you know sort of puts us into if you like puts us into this mind matrix you know 3D mind matrix you know this is what the world looks like this is what you're going to see this is what you're going to do and then you know everyone just sort of toes the line you know and just does what everyone else is doing and we end up you know in the the corporate world and the rat race and

1:05:52you know and all that sort of stuff and we just sort of forget you know we forget who we are but then around 10 years ago my mom died and I started to hear her voice in my head and I just thought it was part of the grieving process you know and I was sort of chatting to her for about a year and then one day my sister was coming to visit and I asked her if she had a message to pass on to my sister and she gave me this message and I then told my sister and it was just so profound for my sister it started it planted a seed if you like and I started to ask myself could actually you know could I have been talking to my mother and I do think that I was you could say that it was a you know a part of her consciousness um you know I think that we are all multi-dimensional and I don't believe that we die I think that we just we we lose the body and we move on and we know either incarnate or we move on to somewhere else but our essence our soul if you as people

1:06:56call it but you know our life force it it it carries on and um anyway at the same time there were other strange things going on in my life you know and I just I started to explore it I started to explore all the science behind it because I had a very analytical mind very logical mind um and I needed to understand how it all worked you know and um I just began exploring and you know like multi-dimensionality string theory and theory you know all these different scientific theories quantum physics and um I just sort of researched this for about four years and then um you know that that is the culmination of this book you know my first book and um you know that's all the science behind the woo if you like and everything sort of in there and then um I then sort of started to research more for my next book which has just come out literally like two weeks ago and that's because I was really passionate about understanding who we are and it's something

1:08:03I've always been passionate about you know what's our purpose why we here who we are and because I never believed that you know we just alumps of flesh that live and die it just it never felt that never never resonated with me so um you know I just went on sort of another journey for another two years and started researching and writing for my next book which is all about who we are our star ancestry and the multiverse you know that we live in that we're part of excellent that's a great introduction the more I learn about this the more I really have questions about everything there's seems to be layers to this reality that contain an ecosystem of life forms just beyond our perception now if you had to break down this reality this multi-dimensional existence and the layers beyond where would you start when trying to describe this matrix system that we're in

1:09:09well you know over my over the past few years of researching I've become I've come to understand and believe that it actually all starts with the heart and when you think about how the heart has been completely shut down it's you know it's all been traumatized in all of us and then the ones who haven't been traumatized you know we've got the cheesy romance films you know that sort of everything is designed to pull us out you know and I think that that actually is where it all begins so the soul is sort of like a prism if you like you know and it's just sort of you know like all different aspects of it I think that we exist in probably 12 dimensions you know which correlates with the 12 strands of DNA that we are becoming again this 12 strand of DNA from my research I understand all beings in the universe are 12 strand of DNA and we as was cut down and reduced down to two but we can see that now children are beginning to I think there's a there's a boy 2016 called Alfie

1:10:11who's now got three strands strands of DNA they've now discovered a fourth strand of DNA which they're attributing to a disease a disorder but I think what it's showing is that actually we're activating back up again so you know not only is it shows show that we would suppress but we are activating back and that I think is to do with that you know the rising energies of the planet the light codes you know the crop circles all this stuff it's activating our consciousness back it's activating our consciousness back into this multi-dimensional reality this world if you like so it's something which I believe that we access through the mind but I think what humans have done wrong is they've been accessing it through the mind for many many civilizations and I think this is why Atlantis fell because what they what we keep missing is it's actually through the heart we have to spiritually evolve and access a multi-dimensional

1:11:11self through the heart and I think that's where it all starts and so I'm always saying to people if you just do one thing just work on your heart release the trauma you know release the ancestral abuse trauma that's gone on for thousands of years and just and open up your heart again and it can feel very painful certainly when I opened up mind it felt like you know you can feel everything and it feels like like knives stabbing you you know because this world is so low vibrational but the more of us who can do that the more we actually will raise the vibration of the planet and you know once we get to a high enough level all the the crap will fall away you know it just won't be able to exist at that vibrational frequency because everything is about frequency so we've been in this lower frequency for a very long time you know on purpose and we're all now raising our frequency so that we can you know get into this higher higher frequency

1:12:14connect with the higher frequencies connect with higher consciousness but also raise the frequency of the planet as well so that we can move into a better reality ourselves actually I want to get a little further into your understanding of what is happening right now I've noticed a lot of amazing things with the collective consciousness and people's awakening I'd like to go back to human origins I know you've done a lot of research into this and this is also one of the biggest mysteries the more we learn about our ancient past it seems that the older humanity is and the more advanced we possibly were as far as our knowledge of science and technology it was probably a lot different types of technology than we're used to now but the more evidence comes out it seems that we were a very advanced race possibly at multiple times in our ancient past and there may have been multiple resets or cataclysm's what is your understanding of human origins and was there

1:13:23another hand in it a non-human intelligence yeah well certainly human origins goes back a very long way um Dr Gary Nolan has now put forwards his research which essentially shows us that human DNA is 9 billion years old now if the planet is really only 4 and a half billion years old then it means that that categorically proves that humans have not come or human DNA has not come from this planet so it's been brought to this planet at some point and certainly there are many many people who are saying that you know this is the case and you only have to look at the pan spermia theory which part of that theory although it talks about you know dust coming down from you know cosmic dust coming down from other planets and things which I believe it it does but it also part of that theory also involves um space beings coming here and seeding the complex DNA including

1:14:25our DNA because our DNA is so complex it just you know it i mean France is correct the Nobel prize winner said this that it's the only thing that made any sense to him is that we we must have been seeded here from something outside of the planet so when we look at that and we look at this you know sort of the evolved ape theory which has never ever been any proof of and yet it's still being taught to us but you know even now scientists scientists know that the the human is here and the apes is here and there are so many missing links you know it just doesn't it just doesn't correlate in that way so I think probably the only thing that you could possibly say is that okay if if it was an ape then this ape was genetically altered many times in order to create the human species or apes and humans just you know were around at the same time and um humans came here from

1:15:26another planet so whichever way look at it it's you know it's it's we haven't evolved from apes essentially so we there's also evidence Michael Cremow he's very interesting he talks a lot about this skeletal remains have been found on the planet so there's human remains even with the rounded head I think the rounded skull which isn't supposed to have come in since like 30 40 thousand years ago with crow magnum he was the rounded skull before that you know the the neanderthal and everyone had sort of the more elongated one but he's saying that there's skeletal remains going back 286 000 years it's found in very old cold strata we've got all the ancient relics you know the 500 million year old zinc vase and you know all just all this stuff which is completely hidden to us so the thing is we're all sort of trying to make sense of the world and trying to make sense of

1:16:29who we are where we come from but so much this information has been hidden so it's a bit like you know trying to make a cake when you've only got two of the ingredients you know we're not going to be able to really understand who we are and where we come from until we have all the information and of course the geneticists you know as Lloyd Pied wrote about in his book the geneticists have also said some have come forward and said that we that we haven't been given all the information about our DNA either you know so I mean I've got sort of my own opinions about things but ultimately it's a very hard question to answer when we don't have all the information. Any thoughts about the Anunnaki mythos and if there's any accuracy or validity to Zacharias Ditchins research or some of the other modern researchers that look into the Sumerian mythos. Hello friends at some point in our journeys we all need guidance and direction

1:17:33one thing I've learned along the way is that there are many ways to connect with our sole mission Jennifer Halcombe offers over 30 years experience with intuitive tarot life coaching and energy and attachment clearing she helps others with energetic blocks become aligned with their sole mission she offers one-on-one or online zoom sessions and cases are assessed on an individual basis and she works with everyone truly in need you can email her now to set up a free consultation at jinniferhalcombe at gmail.com or through facebook messenger all those links are right in the description. Yeah well I mean I do think that the Anunnaki were here I think that possibly there were many like a lot of them are called Anunnaki I think from my research what I'm seeing

1:18:35is that there are multiple gods and you even see this still in some of the religions you know some some of the religions you know in india they still worship you know like hundreds of gods and I think that what we're under what I feel is that these gods were advanced beings you know off planet inner earth whatever it may be but they were very advanced to the local population and they were seen as gods which would make sense so these gods were using advanced technology you know we can see evidence of advanced technology everywhere in our world just the pyramids alone and you know we can see that there there was there were a lot of different people here and you know there were many benevolent gods I mean you know we've been given so much information and help you know medicine was was given to us you know surgery was given to us I think like 600 BC or something the first cataract operation was performed so many things are being given to us so you know I do think that

1:19:39the Anunnaki definitely existed in terms of the kuna form tablets and Enki and Enlil things like this I don't know you know I I think we put too much emphasis on Enki and Enlil and when I seed too much emphasis and this being allowed into the world and not suppressed I always you know alarm bells ring you know because there's so much suppression about everything and why is it that we're allowed to have some of this information and other stuff is suppressed and I do think that there's enough evidence to show that we've been genetically altered but there are different I don't think that the genetic alterations have all been bad that's the thing so the next question is well who is doing these and I do think that our DNA shows suppression so someone must have done that it the Anunnaki has talked about so many different texts that I think that we need to accept that

1:20:39you know they were here that that they that they were doing these things what they genetically altered I think is still a mystery you know did they genetically alter an ape or did they genetically alter and the andathole home or rectus which you know we can see they were still humans and that was still human DNA so in a sense they possibly altered a human that was evolving in a spiritual way because I think that's what that's what evolution is it's not you know like Darwin's theory evolution is spiritual and we're all evolving with if you like consciousness the creator the universe you know everyone is evolving in this way and I think that genetic changes were done to us to stop us evolving in that spiritual way maybe not on purpose maybe we were creating you know we were turned into a worker being or worker species because they needed someone to mind the gold

1:21:41but then after that they they sort of physically advanced us but we weren't spiritually advanced enough and one of the most interesting things here is the the dogon tribe who talk about the NUMMO and how the the NUMMO came from Sirius B and then the Anunnaki were also supposed to have come from Sirius B so I've been asking myself the question well are these the same people and if so the NUMMO were described as an amphibian reptilian race who altered the the DNA genetically altered a mammal on the planet in order to create a vessel to house their consciousness so they were a species that were able to self-fertilize if you like but they still needed to occasionally um have you know like the normal man and woman thing so they were creating the female species

1:22:43and creating the male species the female species worked the male species didn't and they created you know what they call the jackal and it's the jackal that's apparently been putting all the that that that was the that the um the species that they couldn't uncreate they then tried to uncreate and and um go back you know to sort of to to to uncreate all the genetic changes that they're made yeah and they couldn't do it so in a sense they then felt that they had put the jackal into the world and that was creating all the chaos so this is you know another theory just to throw into the the mix but if they are the anonarchy then that that fits in we know with the reptilians we've got the amphibian you know we've got um amphibian DNA in us i met a lady recently and um well she was about last year and she told me that she was born with webtoons and web feet

1:23:46mm she's also our age negative she um you know she she has the red hair she has all that sort of you know like the anonarchy lilyth sort of you know white skin all of that so that's very interesting as well so like i'm saying we don't have all the answers yet but i do think that the kuna form tablets must have been talking about something and and you know it comes up in the nagamadi text as well with the rulers of reality so there's definitely been something like this on our planet some sort of you know something that's been suppressing or something that's been changing and altering us i've heard such a wide range of theories about the nature of these beings whether they're non-humans or extraterrestrials many believe that it's possible that these are not physical beings at all that they are non-croporeal energetic intelligences or maybe some sort of archetypes or thought forms that can interact with us we have researchers like jacquillet who's presented this possibility

1:24:53of a grand intelligence that can manifest in different ways through our minds i through our consciousness and it can seem like a very real physical experience but again i consider all these possibilities i'd love to get your thoughts on that and this also leads to the different types of intelligences that are possibly non-physical what you would consider maybe demonic or disincarnate spirits and i'd like to get your understanding of this spectrum of beings. Well yes i think that there are many entities and beings i mean you know if you imagine the multiverse with parallel realities you know different timelines different universes different time mentions i mean i think that there is a multitude of different forms of form if you like and i think that it's very hard for us to get our head around concepts which most likely involve

1:25:56advanced technology so advanced that we actually don't understand at all how it works we're trying to understand how all of this works from a 3d point of view and it's not 3d you know so my understanding consciousness of course as we know underpins the quantum field so consciousness drives everything now there's this understanding now that consciousness could be plasma and this is very interesting because plasma when you look at the in the 1800s when they were doing all this sort of psychic work you know it's when they were really really pushing this psychic work and they were trying to bring in spirits and the spirits were essentially able to come in and you could see like a foot or a hand you know the spirit for therapy era yeah exactly you know so what if that's what the the spirit was trying to do was literally like manifest itself into physical form

1:26:57using plasma and you know when you sort of think of it like that then you sort of think okay physical form is low low low low vibrational energy waves energy form is higher vibrational energy waves and when you think of the different vibrational frequencies that we have in the multiverse then you can understand how you know you can be you there can be physical form or they can be light beings or entities and of course we're not even physical we're actually made of light ourselves as quantum physics has shown us so I think what we're talking about here is advanced technology and I don't see why a species a thousand years or a billion years more advanced than us has not worked out how to dematerialize and materialize you know shape shifters come up in all of our ancient myths are our old myths and I think the myths are really showing us things actually

1:28:02happened on on our planet you know when our planet I think our planet used to be 5D and I think that's what it's showing us you know all this advanced technology all these different things these people could do and of course if they could do that then they could easily manipulate the physical form I think and so you know yes of course you know entities and beings they they would be able to do different things that we can't do but I don't think it necessarily means that they're not physical it just means that they're able to manipulate and harness and tap into the fields of consciousness that we are only just beginning to explore we've literally just started exploring consciousness if we spend the next you know a thousand years exploring consciousness like Dr. Stephen Greer said we're going to be doing I think we'll really understand how ET's use it how they you know they they sort of use it to to come in with their ships you know

1:29:03plasma consciousness that they actually have that the ships themselves are living beings and it's driven through consciousness I mean there's just so much so much that they can do and all of this is consciousness which we're beginning to understand ourselves you mentioned that you believe the planet used to be 5D could you break down what exactly you mean by that well in quite a few of the ancient texts and I can't remember exactly which ones they are but I think it may be like the Indian Vedas or you know or maybe it's like Tibetan culture but they talk about actually a gartha so a gartha they talk about this being in another dimension and when we have raised our vibration we'll be able to see it again there's also islands you know like complete islands and buildings which in our ancient stories they say well these buildings have been seen before

1:30:04and then they sort of drop out of sight if you like and so as we go back into the golden age as the indigenous tribes call it we will then start to see these buildings again so that sort of telling us that then there must be more to this planet that we can actually see and if that's the case are we talking about different dimensions you know maybe different densities or something but I think that we probably are and in most of the research I've been looking at it talks about how space is in 5D and I've always found this quite interesting because that would actually sort of make sense so what we're seeing in our 3D reality is not really you know we're seeing like a 3D version of it but if you imagine that space is 5D then it means that all these different planets that we have could actually sustain life and I think that they probably are but we're not able to see it because it's been put into this sort of 3D mind matrix if you like so I do think that as

1:31:05we're moving back into 5D we'll be we'll be able to see more of what's around us I also think that things like dragons and sussquatch I think that they can move off into other other dimensions I think they're trans-dimensional because you know that would explain why the suss quatch you know has never been caught and in wide dragons you know that they we have the bones I think dinosaurs were dragons I know that there's a sort of a dinosaur a dragon looking head that was found in Dorset not long ago and I think that these were dragons you know but um you know now I know that people are still talking about seeing them and things like this you know so yeah I think that that that that our reality is much wider than we have been led to believe and as we start to explore some of these older esoteric concepts a lot of gnostic understandings are starting to resurface and there's a many people excuse me that have the

1:32:07unfortunate perspective that our reality has been hijacked by negative forces that we are somehow trapped in this reality constantly recycled and basically our energy is food for negative archonic intelligences I do consider all the possibilities I'd love to get your thoughts on is it possible that at least some aspects of our reality have been hijacked by negative forces yes I think that they probably have and I um from my research it's going back at least 6,000 years if not 12,000 years and um you know there are many people that say that these are the anti-nautic descendants who do this and of course um we have the secret societies and some of them are negative there's there's three negative secret societies who are really sort of you know doing a lot of chaos causing a lot of chaos at the moment and have been running reality for at least a

1:33:10friends but probably more like you froze up we can see that yeah you're seeing how long have they been in control so um they they we can see that they've been in control for at least 120 years because we're talking about the Rothschild the Rockefellers you know these sorts of people if they really are practicing satanism which I'm sure that they probably are because there's just so many accounts of this and so many whistleblowers then it begs the question what are they who are they doing it for you know who are they worshipping and you know black magic exists absolutely when you use blood you know that's black magic and um magic you know is energy you know it's we live in an energy world you know there's energy fields everywhere so the CIA has been working on mind control technology for at least a hundred years and you know you've got to ask yourself the questions well why you know why all these different things if there wasn't this suppression going

1:34:13on then why would they be doing these sorts of things so I agree with you that we don't have to allow that to push us into fear remember I'm saying everything is about the heart we've really got to focus on raising a vibration a lot of this misinformation now and information being designed to keep our vibration low so everything in the world at the moment is designed to keep our vibration low so that we do not step into the higher vibrations and essentially move our planet you know out of the crap so interdimensional beings they do exist they live between dimensions as the the word suggests and they don't have physical bodies you know so somewhere along the line did someone call one of these in yeah I suspect that the Vatican did and you know the Jesuits and who is it that they called in who are they worshipping well there are many people that say the

1:35:17drakehs but even if it's not the drakehs you know it's still like you know the demons or whatever you know that they that there's something was called into our world and yes I do think that we were trapped into a comic cycle but I also know that all of this has been it's being undone it's all being undone so since 2012 we've been able to leave the planet you know the comic cycle was broken then since um all the children who've been coming in for the since 2010 have all been coming into a higher that they're becoming into 4d basically so you know already things are being undone the you know I do think that there are white hats and I think that they're working with off planet benevolent species I think you know that that we come from different species and that they're also working behind the scenes I can see that there's a massive effort to raise

1:36:20the levels of consciousness of the planet you can just see this everywhere and the fact that you know you can that you can even measure the energy and you can feel that you can see that it's it's already resurvenced so much you know we are we are raising you know we are sort of shifting our vibration if you like so I think the thing is for me I'm not scared of information I'd rather know the truth even if it's really uncomfortable I'd rather know it but I also know that there are many people who don't like information if it's if it's bad but for me it's knowledge is power if you if we know this information then we can equip ourselves a deal with it you know we can't hide under the bed and pretend things aren't happening we have to find out this information and then find solutions in order to you know work with it and understand what part we need to play you know what do we need to do to help the planet so that's sort of how I tend to

1:37:23look at things these days yeah that's a great perspective I wanted to get your thoughts on what is unfolding right now the awakening that we were just mentioning you also mentioned in 2012 our karmic cycle was broken what is occurring on our planet right now and causing this awakening and what do you think this will lead to okay so like I said I think that we have been trying to it it's all about spiritual evolution which in my mind is levels of consciousness you know so humanity is moving to their next level of consciousness which we could say is 4d 5d you know I sort of see it like this and we have been trying to spiritually evolve for quite a while and we have been stopped I think from evolving and we're now moving into you know this what people

1:38:24called the golden age but I haven't really researched this too much but I know I know Dr. Stephen Greer talks about this and says that this is this is our destined time to move back into the golden age we're apparently destined to now have 500,000 years of peace and that's what the planet is supposed to be having so I tend to look at it in terms of that we've been held back and suppressed because we can see this in so many different areas of our world and now the suppression is lifting if you like and I think that we're that there's a lot of help that we're being given but humanity itself in order to spiritually evolve we have to get back to our heart and this is the you know the most important thing we've all got to raise our vibration from the heart in order to raise the vibration of the collective and move out of 4d if you like and moving

1:39:24to 5d so the interdimensional beings demons whatever they will not be able to exist past 4.3 d so I think we're something like 3.9 now maybe even 4 but we need to get beyond that so that they literally will fall away it's a bit like you know frequency healing with disease you know like you bombard the body with high vibrational frequencies like the selvedger frequencies and the disease literally cannot exist in that high vibration anymore and it just falls away and this is you know you look at the empire of tartaria which was the free energy empire this is exactly what they were doing and using the churches and cathedrals to do this so this was only 200 years ago you know it shows that we have all this this energy we have all this technology we've had free energy before you know we I think there are still some people using it on this planet and it's just there waiting from for us to just sort of awaken and raise our vibration

1:40:32and for these you know the the the people like the sort of the Rothschild we call them the elites the parasites psychopath whatever you know for for these people to just leave and move off the planet or to just sort of disappear from view if you like you know so that we can become the the majority on the planets as we always have been but they were manipulating the energy fields and sort of pulling it all around to them if you like and I think they were using probably black magic spells to do that but but um yeah you know so I I think that this is um this is the case definitely seems like a very critical time in our human history and there seems to be this reaction from the parasitic ruling class to the awakening and trying to cost chaos basically and throw out lots of bad information get people full of fear from whatever new disease or sickness

1:41:34or terrorist or war that could be in the future and it all seems to be ramping up as their final effort to try and keep control over things yeah exactly and that's why we've probably got maybe another five years of chaos um you know but I know that there's a lot of things coming in even next year you know so there are humanitarian projects that are going to be starting the next few years uh the money has now been taken off these um you know the parasites and it's been sort of it's now being held by the military this is all white out intel and um we've got all this off planet technology just waiting in the wings to come in you know med beds I know med beds are ridiculed by people but they are actually real and it's it's holographic um technology which you know essentially heals the body because you know we live in a holographic universe I think

1:42:36or multiverse and um you know like the oceans can be can be cleaned just like that um the weather you know of course I think the weather has been manipulated for hundreds of years maybe even but it's definitely been manipulated for the past 120 years and that you know we can actually manipulate the weather for our own benefit it's been done negatively but we can now do it for our own benefit and it means that we can we can move out of the of the cities we you know we can go to places where we haven't been able to inhabit before we you know the med beds alone will give us an extra 25 years on our life but it's looking like our lifespan will double because we always had a longer life span anyway you know the bible the ancient text they always talked about how we lived for hundreds and thousands of years and then this changed so and I know um Harvard looks at

1:43:36the it shows that we can easily live 120 years so I know in the bible it says that that we were kept to the 120 years this this may have been done for bad reasons or good reasons who knows but we were so as our DNA is changing these genetic changes will switch back on again and we'll be able to get a longer lifespan but even if that isn't the case the med bed technology will be able to do that so there's a lot of off planet technology waiting to come into the wings but we have to work on raising the vibration of the collective now so that we can you know if you like embrace this technology because I think that there are still probably people on this planet who will abuse it and so nothing is going to be given to us until I think you know we we can stop abusing things but it's not it's not the everyday person who's abusing it you know it's the elites as they call themselves they're the ones abusing it so these are the ones who they either have to

1:44:42work on their heart or they have to sort of you know just allow themselves to fall away if you like you know so the more of us that can become heart-lead the more of us that we that we can work from the heart raise that vibration gain that pure intent which is the pure intent of that you know everything that you're doing in your life is done for the greater good you know is done for the collective is done for you know not hurting people and helping people and all of this you know and I think I don't know I mean I think there's probably still quite a few people that haven't worked on themselves because I know that something like 85% of people don't do self-development a personal development which is the same thing as spiritual development it's all the same thing at the end of the day so I think that you know more of us need to start working on ourselves because self-development personal development it's all a consciousness expansion and consciousness expansion

1:45:44is also raising the the vibration as well it does it does the same thing so I think you know that's that's what we have to really work on now as a collective and know that we do have all these things just around the corner but there are these people on the planet who are you know making a mess and causing chaos and I think also we need to stand up to them and say no you know we need to stop playing their games we really need to whatever that may be you know stop voting stop being in the military you know and fighting their wars for them you know stop going to work you know whatever it may be you know I think we need to break these systems that have been controlling us for such a long time I mean I'm not an anarchist you know but I do think that we need to do something well yeah our systems are currently built from a foundation of anti-human ideologies so none of

1:46:44this is to benefit us none of these current education medical systems all of these major institutions that we are under their thumb it never benefits humanity in any way but I want to go back to the white hat aspect for a minute myself and many others that I associate with are skeptical about the white hat possibility just because we've been promised a lot of things over the years that really never came through now I do see many wonderful things happening I see a great awakening in people's consciousness and in individual people's lives we're doing wonderful things we're starting our own systems we're starting to build things from the ground up but as far as organized levels of our military or government that do have humanity's best interest in mind I'm a little skeptical about but I'd love to hear where you're sourcing this information and what makes you think

1:47:49that there are indeed white hats well yes well I mean I'm I'm I'm sourcing it from a variety of different places but you know I think you sort of you have to feel into your own heart and feel what resonates with you and I agree with you you know that doesn't look like the white hats are doing anything but I sort of feel like there's been a lot of problems in our world for a very long time and when you when you look at the level of where it's been you know with the child trafficking um you know pedophilia all this sort of thing I mean I think you know I think these are sort of accepted areas of our world I mean it you know it's an uncomfortable truth that not many people want to really look at but you know they I think that this has been a part of our world for a very long time and I think maybe that takes a long time to undo all of that um I know Stephen Grier says

1:48:50that this sort of awakening will probably take two three hundred years because I think that's where sort of the golden age fits into that with the transition time but then there are other people say it's going to be a lot quicker than that I think if we had a black swan event of some sort it would be quick but I'm not too sure that we will have that because I'm not too sure that anything is going to be done for us I think that we you know it's a bit like the universe you meet the universe halfway you know and you you you manifest or you know get whatever it is you want and I think it's the same for us I think that maybe more of us need to awaken that more of us you know sort of need to be you know actively helping and working and participating and actually changing this world together and um I know that the you know we've got sort of energetic waves high vibrational energetic waves coming in all the time and I really do feel this I feel that just now compared to

1:49:53last month feels higher vibrational to me the energy does it feels better every single day whether that's just me whether that's you know people around me but when I talk to other people they always say yes they feel there's a nice energy as well it does feel like something bad has lifted off the planet to me but um you know in terms of the white hats and the galactic federation and these sorts of things um yeah I mean I do think that you know that that we are getting some help but in in what context that help is and how much help we're getting I don't know because it's not sort of right in our face you know it's not something that we can say you know that's happening and that's happening and um I'm in an organization called Connecting Consciousness and it's that's run by an ex-UK politician and um he has links to MI5 MI6 through his family and he gets a lot of

1:50:59intel from that and so according to him he's working with the white hats he's part of a white dragon society the white dragon society was set up they were they were all asked so I think there was something like um 12 different groups were all asked to work together to create this white dragon society which was a benevolent society that was going to be working with off-planet races in order to sort of be on the ground if you like the boots on the ground during a lot of the things here and um you know I sort of feel that things like this could actually be true they know that it could actually be the case I think that we have there's enough evidence in our ancient texts and you know Bible and religious texts to show that our planet has been inhabited by extraterrestrials since time began you know so if they've been on this planet and they've been visiting this planet

1:52:03for thousands and thousands of years I think they possibly only stopped a few hundred years ago and I think that's because they're you know the if you like the sort of you know that the parasitic elites took over and they haven't been able to get in get into help if you like so you know we have the star seeds that you know they're incarnated to a physical body to help from within and I think that's probably what's happening is that you know the disclosure you know that the truth seeking you know the the raising of the vibration the planet it's all coming from within so it's not that we're going that it's not that we're getting external help you know in that sense it's that we're getting help from within so that we're helping to raise our own vibration from within because I do think that we have to do this ourselves and this is our planet and we can be given a certain amount of help but I think that if it's done for us then we're not going to snap out of this

1:53:04god thing that we have going on you know we're such such worshipers you know we're always worshipping someone if it's not god it's a celebrity or a sporting hero you know or a musician you know we're always worshipping someone so we're always giving our power away to something outside of ourselves so I think if we sort of get this help you know people just sort of coming down and helping us again like so many you know all the indigenous tribes in the past they've all then made these people gods and you know we also don't quite know how to take responsibility for ourselves because if you like we've been herded in so many different directions that we we don't really we don't really have that sort of empowered sovereign you know sort of thing going on and I think these are possibly things that as a collective we need to learn and if everything's done for us we're not going to learn these things so that's sort of my you know my gut feeling about this but I do think that we're getting help I do just just thinking about wave genetics you know

1:54:08that we're in it we live in a telepathic universe and telepathically all these sort of you know thoughts and voices and things you know I mean how many people you know sort of speak to spirit guides and channel and stuff like this all this information coming in I mentioned this quite often I'll have a profound thought or idea a new awareness and I'll be excited to share it on my show with my audience but I'll wake up the next morning and it seems like everybody else already has this understanding it's already come out somehow and it's permeated through the consciousness so I definitely believe that we are becoming more connected and there is a this information field that is starting to flow a little easier now that being said let's talk a little bit about our consciousness abilities that we that have been dormant for a long time that we have not been utilizing that now would be a good time to start getting into and practicing some of our consciousness abilities again and you

1:55:12talk about the science behind manifestation and how that relates to the holographic universe talk a little bit about your understanding of manifestation and how we can basically create our reality through our awareness perception and imagination yeah um yeah I mean we already are that's the thing you see we already are we are creator beings just like every being in the universe I think and essentially because we live in a holographic universe where you know we're all creating our reality all the time it's just the reality that we've been creating isn't the one that we want and you know the the parasitic elites know that we're all manifesting our reality so they've been hyphen in a sort of siphoning off and hijacking the energy and directing it to them and pulling it away from us so I think one of the most important

1:56:13things is to understand first of all how much power we have you know we really are creating already creating our own reality but we're creating realities um what we're sort of doing is creating realities based on our limiting beliefs and our belief structures and these belief structures they originate from programming conditioning trauma abuse you know ancestral trauma and abuse which you know at the field of epigenetic shows us that trauma is passed down in our DNA so that's another thing that people can be doing now is working on their ancestral healing you know releasing all the trauma which has been passed down from generations so 40 hundred generations back and just releasing just letting it go because another thing is that we know we live in a free world world and again it can't be done for us we have to do it ourselves so

1:57:14you know we can ask one of our guides you know can you heal this for me and then you know listen to the answer we can go to ancestral healings and there's a very nice lady in the US called Sue Chimino and she does these ancestral healings for free every every week she's doing one and she just has a huge amount of people coming and she's just you know clearing all this ancestral trauma the ancestral sort of collective beliefs that we've that we've inherited when we incarnated onto this planet so there's a lot of things that people can do so we understand now that sound creates everything so the field of simatics has proven to us that sound creates physical matter so if you like you know like the the the sound the frequency is creating sort of these like sacred geometric shapes and we already know that the universe you know the world is made up of geometric

1:58:18shapes you know we've got the the golden ratio we've got the fractures everything is a fractal you know we've got the the difference you know geometric shapes with the flower of life you know so tesla new turn Isaac Newton you know they they all believe that the flower of life was the everything it was everything and in sort of my research that I've been doing I'm beginning to feel that the flower of life is the universe and the different sort of pockets that you see within it you know are the pockets of dimensions so we already know that the that space is not linear it's curved and you know if we sort of think about the flower of life and and how it's how it's fitted together we can sort of see that you know that this sort of makes more sense we can also see that as

1:59:18our blood cells start to sort of double double double double it begins to look like the flower of life you know so you can just see these things these different geometric shapes everywhere so then sound is creating that and sound is frequency so frequency is everything it's you know is being created if you like you know by consciousness or whatever but essentially if we see that the holographic universe is in what we see has been created by our own thoughts words feelings emotions then we can uncreated you know and we can create a better reality for ourselves and one of the other things that I would say in terms of abilities is to start connecting back to your multidimensional self you know so start to access your clairvoyance start to switch on your clair audience you know start to get that that knowing that sense of knowing start to feel and you know that sort of that sentient

2:00:27feeling because this is the multidimensional self and when you start to just access your senses beyond the the physical five five senses then you're starting to access the subtle energy that's around you and the more you do that the more you consciousness will upgrade your body so every time you know we get one of those aha moments every time we learn something new every time we sort of we meditate or you know sort of practice our intuitive skills if you like we our brain changes our DNA changes and then consciousness is able to work with our DNA in a in a better way and it literally upgrades us we become a new person we become you know a different vibration and the more we do that the more we're upgrading ourselves continually up up up up which is also expanding our consciousness raising our vibration so it's you know it's just working on on these abilities

2:01:29that we all have but again you know we we just switch them all off when we were kids now when you say upgrading I've had plenty of researchers come on and talk about how it's possible that we are evolving from carbon based life forms to crystalline is that mean anything to you yeah so it's moving into homo luminous we're moving into the light body which is you know most likely the next next stage for humans I mean we are light bodies anyway even Einstein said that we're beings of light and you can see you know just looking at us under the x-ray you know you can see that you know we are we are light so yeah I understand whether we know where they're where they're where they're going with that but I would say that we already are light and so maybe it's realizing that you know that we are light and if you think about energy and matter you know matter is heavier energy is lighter so as we

2:02:34become more energy so you know we're releasing if you like the physical traumas you know which creates like a sort of trapped energy in our body we're releasing all of this sort of physical flesh if you like you know we're just releasing sort of you know all the low vibrational thinking the low vibrational feeling we're releasing all of that we're we're becoming more energy and as we become more energy we step into that light body into the crystalline body and again that secession it's all the same thing section golden age consciousness expansion 5D it's all the same thing and it's where we've been heading for a very long time but I think that we were stopped somewhere along the line but now we're back in again and we're heading back into that into that crystalline body and we you know eventually but we won't have to eat you know we won't have to do any of that and actually there in the the Empire of Tataria there were um breatherians and these were

2:03:41people who didn't eat and these were indigenous tribes as well indigenous tribes there are still many indigenous tribes around today that don't eat and they're able to work with the the energy you know prana the the energy of the ether and um and with the sun as well which is a huge life giving force and they're able to sustain their bodies in that way so we can see that already people doing it on this planet you know so we will be able to get to that point as well and um and eventually I think all civilizations I think that they've all been through this this process and I think eventually you just end up as pure energy and you know eventually you integrate back into source for the last few minutes we have I mentioned earlier the possibility that we've been reset multiple times as a species that there might have been multiple cataclysms throughout our

2:04:42history that has wiped out civilizations to a point to where we have no collective memory of how advanced we once were there's many that speculate we may be headed towards another one of those cataclysmic errors or resets I'd like to get your thoughts on if that's possible yeah well I mean the great reset um supposedly happens every 250 years the last one was 1776 and that's when the the Empire of Tataria which took over you know 90% of the northern hemisphere it was so huge was wiped out and possibly wiped out using energy weapons actually because you look at the um you know the you know just that the huge mud floods and things that occurred from that so we are due to have another reset in 2030 or like 2026 so there are many people that say that you know that yes this is the great reset coming you know you look at the world economic forum

2:05:44they actually they call it the great reset you know and they call it the new world order and they they keep trying to create this new world order with all these resets that they do but this is just in the past sort of you know say a few thousand years I think a thousand years has been added on to our calendar by the church the Vatican at least 800 years if not a thousand so we're we're already a thousand years behind but um you know you look you look at what what has actually occurred with these great resets and you realize how much our history has been altered already which really makes you understand that what we see in our history books cannot cannot be trusted and um you know it just makes you look at the world in such a different way so in terms of you know the the white pad of civilization which I think you're referring to that the different indigenous

2:06:47tribes talk about how how we keep being wiped out because we keep falling falling into matter you know falling into low vibrations falling into um what's the word yeah in debauchery yeah exactly so we kept and that's that's why Atlantis went um because we kept you know sort of just being wiped out because we kept falling and I don't know you know yes we could have been falling into debauchery but I suspect it's these same parasites that keep doing it and they're sort of pulling mankind down with them if you like and maybe you know the interdimensional beings that the demons that is talked about in literally every single culture around the world talks about these interdimensional demons and um so yeah you know maybe it's that that we just keep sort of falling into temptation by by these

2:07:49demons and we just keep you know sort of for more power we sell ourselves for more power which you can see just in Hollywood alone that that's already been done but you know in terms of whether it's the great reset every 250 years or whether it's the civilization falling which the Mayans um you know the the Hopi Indians they say that we're on our fourth fifth world I think maybe even the much a seventh world but these worlds went for a much much much longer I mean the you know we're talking like tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of years in between these periods where we fell so if Dr Stephen Gray was right we've got we we we are promised 500,000 years of peace that is what we've been promised and that is what is coming then it means that all these other things you know are not going to happen so if is the great is the great reset going to happen 2030 well this we don't know you know and I'm not going to sit around on my in rest on my laurels if you like

2:08:51I'm still as you probably are on everyone else I'm still looking around I'm still you know making sure that we're on track you know feeling into my heart understanding more about the energies and always questioning and asking myself have I do I see evidence of things shifting to the better yet I haven't at the moment so for the moment you know I'm still saying the same thing you know out they're doing the same thing and helping people to raise their own vibration their own internal vibration but I do feel that it will be okay I do feel that but I do know that we have to put the working it's not going to be done for us and we have to put the working we have to prove and show that we can put the working and do it 100% Elizabeth thank you so much this was fantastic I definitely love to have you back on in the future much more we can get into before you go let the audience know how they can find out more about you website all your links yeah okay so my website is alizabeth

2:09:57hankock.com and that's alizabeth with an s not a z and I'm on youtube at alizabeth hankock as well I have a podcast called the Great Awakening podcast and I'm also on social media at alizabeth hankock author on instagram and facebook as well excellent alizabeth thank you so much like I say we'll definitely be doing this again and until next time everyone have a wonderful evening we'll talk again tomorrow we'll see y'all then if you're looking to start your therapeutic microdosing journey but don't know where to start especially when looking for the highest quality ingredients including new tropics and what you'd expect from a true microdose capsule check out our friends at brain supreme they offer the absolute highest quality ingredients so you can start your microdosing journey knowing that you're getting top notch ingredients to find out more visit their website using that link

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