FKN Classics Double Feature! Joseph Farrell - Psyops | Anthony Peake - Cheating the Ferryman

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1:26The first venture into alternative history and science. Following a paradigm of researching the relationship between alternative history and science, he has followed with a stunning series of books. Dr. Farrell, welcome. How are you today? Thanks for having me, Chris. I'm okay. It's sinus season for I'm at. Okay. Well, I'm indulging in my favorite sinus relief. Yeah, yeah, it's always, whatever works for you, you know. But, you know, I hope that gets better for you. And I want to welcome you. I've been looking forward to this. Your body of work and research is extremely impressive and I've been wanting to have you on for a while. I thought tonight we could not only discuss our current dystopian state, but what may have led to this. Yeah! And, you know, where this could be going. And also, what's up with the mainstream media, the UFO maniac lately, where this all may

2:27lead us. It's a very interesting time we're in. We're seeing things that I never thought I'd see before. If I was in a coma for over a year and I woke up this year and I went to a coma before 2020, I think I was living in the strangest science fiction movie I've ever seen. But first, you know, or the Twilight Zone. Or the Twilight Zone, either one. Now for those of the audience that may not be familiar with you or you work, this is your first time on. I'd love to hear a little bit more about your background and what got you started down your path. Well, my father, what got me started quite literally was my father was an engineer. And there were numerous conversations around the card table and I was growing up. You know, that's what people did. They'd play cards on Friday night. And their favorite card playing partners, he was the man that was part of that couple was

3:27the engineer for one of the local television stations, the, you know, the transmitter engineer. And so naturally, whenever they get together to play cards, these two engineers would start talking engineering stuff, you know, talking shop. My father and he, I remember vividly, I don't remember how old I was, but I was fairly young at the time. My father and this other engineer, I remember vividly having this conversation about the great pyramid and all the engineering weirdness in it. So I kind of grew up with it, you know, I've always had a fascination for that sort of stuff. Even UFOs, you know, I go back, you mentioned UFOs in the media. When I was a boy, I had, there was this comic book company called Hwamo. And they would publish these great big gigantic comic books. And I remember my dad bought me one of these Hwamo comic books. It was nothing about, about UFOs, you know, it was, it was just chock full of comic book

4:34presentations of famous UFO cases and was fascinating. So that's what got me started. But I never really, you know, I never really turned conceived of it as turning into a career, but here I am. Right? Excellent, excellent. Now 2020 was quite a year, like I mentioned in the intro, especially when it comes to conspiracy theories. Now, many of these that have come out in the past year, completely off the wall and ridiculous, but they have many that have actually come true. You know, many that you could actually verify that, yeah, this is, this is something that's actually going on. Now, when it comes to the coronavirus and everything else that has happened as a result, no conspiracy there. Nothing's supposed to go along there. I would never think that, of course not. But my question is, do you think there is a grand conspiracy at play or some type of psychological warfare operation against the people?

5:36Or are they using this coronavirus as just a convenient way to push through some agendas that were in the works or is something completely different? I'd like to think of your thoughts on that. Let's start with the last one at the minimum. It's very clear that the powers that be here, as I like to call them, Mr. Global Looney, is using this as a crisis of opportunity to get several objectives, you know, accomplished it in one fell swoop from a social engineering standpoint. Let's see how far we can, we can make the sheet docile and compliant with a narrative that you know, makes really no sense. You know, are we dealing with one virus or several? You know, I'm still kind of unclear about that. And then, you know, all the statistical anomalies that have accompanied this whole thing, you know, what are they counting as corona deaths? What are they counting as a result of the global crisis?

6:37So to me, at the minimum, Chris, it looks like we're dealing with a crisis of opportunity. And you know, while everybody is misdirected towards COVID, what are they really doing? Well, they're indulging in this great financial reset. You know, they're trying to get everything to move to a digital currency. And I put quotation marks around currency as fast as they can. So yeah, they're accomplishing a lot with this. And one of the biggest things that they've managed to accomplish with it is because of the lockdowns. And let's remember that's a term used in prisons. One of the biggest things they've managed to do is wipe out the middle class. They, you know, online retail sales have skyrocketed. In other words, the Amazon's, the Jeff Bezos and so on have been making hand over $5 because of all of this while at the same time they're driving out of business, the mom postures.

7:41So you know, they've accomplished a great deal economically in terms of their great, in terms of their great reset. But at a deeper level, I do suspect that there's a lot more going on with this that just is not in my opinion, add up. One of the biggest things to me still is the fact that Professor Lieber at Harvard University, the chairman of the chemistry department there and an expert in nanotechnology was arrested shortly after this planned, scandemic broke out for having not disclosed financial ties to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And then after that happened, we come to find out that Dr. Fausti repart me. Fauci himself. That was a deliberate slip. I have to say, but that's what I think of the man. Oh, how many masks do we need? Well, one, two, maybe five, you know, 15, you know, I saw a cartoon of him wearing a mask.

8:46It was nothing but a pack of bologna. That's perfect. Which I like. But anyway, come to find out he has had financial ties to that same institution in China. So yeah, there's, and now we have this mad rush with these vaccines that as far as I can tell or not like any other kind of vaccine with ever seen before with all the adverse reactions that are going along with them. So yeah, I think there's a deeper aspect of this that we have yet really to plumb. So I leave the door here to conspiracy wide open. Yes, that's pretty much all you can do at this point. Now you mentioned China. Do you think that they have a larger role to play in what's going on than may appear? Because you know, at the beginning, everything was being blamed on China, horrific things, images were coming out of China, people dropping dead on the streets.

9:46And then it goes back and forth. No, it's not China. It's not a bio weapon. What do you think China's role is in the grand scheme of things? Well, in the grand, let me, let me rephrase your question a bit because I think in the grand scheme of things that there, there was prior to this plan, scam, demic, there was some sort of very covert war going on between China and presumably this country, perhaps other western powers or what have you. And to me, the sure as sign of that is, is the flooding that occurred in China that got to the point that they were actually very, very concerned about the three gorges and them. You know, that, that weather system just sort of parked itself in the Indian ocean and didn't move. And to me, that's a little suspicious because I do believe we have weather manipulation technologies that are relatively, pardon me, relatively sophisticated.

10:50So this weather system parks itself there and just inundates China with massive rains. And of course, a lot of that rain feeds into the ontsy river. So you know, it may have been, it may have been an example of covert weather manipulation of warfare and whether there's a perfect way to wage a covert war because, you know, it wasn't us, it was simply an act of God. You know, it's kind of like the Katrina hurricane that goes zipping along about a decade or so more than a decade ago, goes zipping along through the golf and then makes a right angle turn. And plows, you know, well, hurricanes don't do that. Yeah. You know, they just don't. So yeah, I've been thinking there's some sort of a covert warfare that has been going on for a long time and covert may be just another chapter in it. Right. Shop vans and Albertsons for fresh savings every time you shop. This week at vans and Albertsons get fresh, boneless, skinless chicken breasts for 199

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12:56per pound limit 10 pounds and locally grown grape ory cotton candy grapes are 299 per pound with digital coupon. Plus 24 packs of Canada dry or 7 up 12 ounce cans are 499 limit one with digital coupon. Enjoy fresh and delicious savings for every meal. Hurry in, these deals won't last. Visit vans or Albertsons.com for more deals and ways to save. And one of the big anomalies for me even before 2020 was the Trump presidency really, the whole thing. I'd never been political. I'd never really trusted politicians. I always had the idea that they were kind of both under a level of control and it was just more of a puppet show than anything, but that was just my personal opinion. But Trump was kind of an anomaly to me, just because of the things he would say, the things he would do, especially when it came to calling out the fake media and some of the things

13:56that were happening during the COVID fiasco. What are your thoughts on the Trump presidency? Was he some sort of controlled opposition or was he a legit outsider that was trying to maybe change things? Well, you know, Chris, I, in all honesty, I puzzled myself about that and let me tell you why. I'm kind of like you. I'm very, I'm not so much politically agnostic, but politically fed up. So, you know, when, when Shrubbed the first ran for president in 1988, that was when I retired from voting. You know, to me, this, I have no use for their family, you know, a choice between him and Bill Clinton is, you know, which, which fashion of the CIA do you want running things? So I, I went into voting retirement and I did not vote in any election at any level until 2016 when Trump was running against Hillary.

14:58And it wasn't so much that I was a supporter of Trump. It's just that I knew that her getting in was a bad idea. And I also had the opinion at that time, Chris, that Trump may represent some faction of the American deep state that was truly, truly and deeply, and there's no other way to put a pissed off because we had Obamacare come in, which gutted the casino business. People were not using whatever spending money that they had for things like that to go out and gamble. So you had, you know, you had that element of the deep state. Everybody knows that the casino business is deeply, deeply tied to the mob and so on and so forth. But I was thinking that Trump represented some sort of faction of that element. And again, with Trump, you had his personal associations with, you know, the original

16:01swap creature Roy Cohn. And you know, Cohn goes all the way back to Senator McCarthy and knew where all of the bodies were buried. So I thought, well, maybe there's more going on here than me, so the I, well, then once it gets into office, his appointments baffled me because they were not the kind of appointments that you would see someone trying to combat the deep state or dream the swap make case and point William Barr. If you know anything about that whole, Clinton, Mina, Arkansas, Barry, Seale, you know, drug-riding operation, William Barr is front and center in the middle of that. So it began to baffle me. And at this point, I can't honestly say that that I'm maintaining that same position. I don't know what Trump was other than an anomaly. Yes, he was, he was definitely an anomaly and something that kind of went along with

17:02that was the whole, the QAnon, I know if it was a phenomenon or what you want to call it. I think personally was some kind of strange side up. I'm still keeping my finger on it. Yeah, but you know, that kind of went along with the Trump presidency and towards the end, it was just being used to not only demonize Trump, but all his supporters, you know, if you're into this QAnon thing, your conspiracy theorist, Andrew Danger, Andrew White supremacist, and you know, you're everything else that's dangerous to America. So you know, they ended up using that towards the end and that just kind of solidified that, yeah, this was probably some kind of siop to get people divided and get people turned against anything that goes against the mainstream narrative, basically. Well, it was the clever siop in that it did two things. It, you know, with my background being in patristics, I look at, I tend to look at things for their theological or religious implications. And to me, the whole QAnon op right from the start was setting, you know, it was designed

18:06more or less as a kind of religion. It created its own kind of cult. And the second thing it did is it made people tremendously passive. They didn't go out and do anything. They were too busy decoding the messages and trusting the plan, you know, well, if you're trusting the plan and sitting on your, you know, what, eating popcorn, you know, you're not doing anything. So I was very suspicious of it. It was not, to me, it was another case of a very clever social engineering, but I will say this about it. It also struck me at the time looking at it that whoever was behind it, number one was a group. And number two, they had access to some very sophisticated computing power and some very sophisticated software algorithms to do some of the stuff that they were doing because

19:08they would dribble out just enough truth to hook everybody on all the rest of the different disinformation. And to me, Chris, that smacks of an intelligence operation. So the way I view things, I think, I think those well intentioned people were just had quite frankly. And the way everything turned out, you know, towards the end with the election and Biden winning and the allegations of election by winning. Yeah, by winning exactly. And then the impeachment of Trump and then Trump doesn't end up getting, it's all so strange even after the election, when you look at the Biden presidency, how everything is going, it's like some kind of strange, like Twilight Zone episode. It is. You don't hear anything negative anymore. We don't have a president to hate anymore. So everything that's coming out of the media is all one side now because mainly of the censorship

20:12that occurred the past year. And that's only getting worse. I want to talk about that later too. But as far as the election, you know, just like you said, quote unquote, election, what do you think went on there? I mean, was this decided long before that we got to get this Trump out of here or? You know, what do you think about it? Well, I think, well, number one, I, to my mind, in my opinion, the, the prima facie evidence of fraud is pretty well overwhelming. And I think there were massive amounts of it. Number two, to pull off that amount of fraud, they had to have planned it carefully, which evidently they did because there are allegations. I think some of them are possibly true that China was shipping in massive amounts of paper ballots and so on and so forth. We've seen the, in my opinion, overreaction of Dominion suing Sydney Powell.

21:16We had the case of servers in Germany, you know, being, being rated. So to me, it's looking like there was a whole organized international effort to get him out of there because everything else had failed. And, and the assassination route just simply wasn't available because people wouldn't have bought it quite frankly. You know, the magic bullet didn't, didn't sell too well after a decade. So, you know, they had to get him out of there. And to me, the evidence of the operation is in the fact that we now have, and I'm, I'm not going to mince words, we now have a senile daughtered in the White House, who's, who doesn't know where he is, doesn't know what he's signing, who's simply there as, as a placeholder. And, you know, I call him Bidenenko because of his connections to the Ukraine and all

22:19of that, and that's, so we've got a very corrupt man who on top of everything else is, is a senile daughtered. And that to me is just kind of the final icing on the cake that this has all been some sort of show in terms of the opposition to Trump and so on and so forth. Mr. Global Loan is firmly back in charge and is in a rush to get things done. Yeah, and I can't see him lasting the whole presidency, honestly, honestly. And that could be a part of the plan too to just have Kamala jump right in his place once he kicks the bucket. I don't know. I mean, that could be a big possibility. Well, I think there's a strong possibility of it, but again, you know, she's just another placeholder. This administration is being run not out of the White House. And it's not being, it's not being run out of the vice presidential residency, there,

23:24it's being run from somewhere else. And they're just, they're just there to sign the papers. Yeah. Now, I want to cover some of the other agendas that are kind of unfolding right now. Shop vans and Albertsons for fresh savings every time you shop. This week at vans and Albertsons get fresh, boneless, skinless chicken breasts for 199 per pound limit 10 pounds. And locally grown, grape-ery cotton candy grapes are 299 per pound with digital coupon. Plus 24 packs of Canada dry or 7-up 12 ounce cans are 499 limit 1 with digital coupon. Enjoy fresh and delicious savings for every meal. Hurry in, these deals won't last. Visit vans or Albertsons.com for more deals and ways to save. Pro-football is back and so are predictions. Trade yours on CalShi America's number one prediction market platform. New England is currently trading at 39% to beat Seattle, meaning $100 trade pays out $246 if they win. Download CalShi, use code, heart to get $20 when you trade 20, KALSHI, CalShi, trade on

24:30anything. This week at vans and Albertsons get fresh, boneless, skinless chicken breasts for 199 per pound limit 10 pounds. And locally grown, grape-ery cotton candy grapes are 299 per pound with digital coupon. Plus 24 packs of Canada dry or 7-up 12 ounce cans are 499 limit 1 with digital coupon. Enjoy fresh and delicious savings for every meal. Hurry in, these deals won't last. Visit vans or Albertsons.com for more deals and ways to save. First the one that nobody wants you talking about, the V word, but we can talk about it tonight because this is not going to be on the draconian censorship YouTube network. It's going to be on our podcast and a private platform. We're going to talk about the vaccines a little bit because they rushed it out. There was no testing.

25:33It's obvious that this was a huge agenda to get this thing out to as many people as possible. We have of course had negative side effects already. We have a lot of people dying. I unfortunately have family members that are brainwashed and lining up to go and take this thing. We of course don't know the long-term side effects. On top of that, when you look at all the information that we've been getting from the CDC the past year, the flu disappeared. The numbers never added up the whole time. It was all about the deaths people dying of coronavirus, but they could have died of anything and it was labeled as coronavirus. What do you think the vaccine agenda is? I've heard everything from genetic modification to some sort of depopulation agenda. I just think that there's something nefarious going on there to where they want all these people to get it. Bill Gates is like the cheerleader for this thing.

26:34He's had Ted Talks in the past about eliminating the people's spiritual gene. I mean, it's terrifying to me. I'd like to get your thoughts on what do you think is happening with this? All of the above. All of the above. One thing we have to remember about Mr. Global-Onate is that they like to stack operations. They like to stack objectives and deal with them in one fell swoop. I go back to the messenger RNA vaccine and to Dr. Charles Lieber and his connection to the Wuhan laboratory. When that connection came out, I went out. I went on record very early on that it was highly suspicious that you had an expert in nanotechnology being involved at some point in the research associated with that laboratory. Low and behold, the next thing we know is we're hearing about messenger RNA vaccines.

27:36This is a complete, for one thing, that's not a vaccine in any classical sense what they're trying to do. What they're trying to do is genetically modify a response in the immune system to respond and create antibodies to a virus that normally, a smallpox virus, they used cowpox to inoculate people against smallpox because the two are so similar to the immune system. That's the way classical vaccines would work. These are not vaccines in that sense. There's another objective and I suspect that it is likely since they also don't want to label what's in their vaccines. I suspect it's likely that they want to sneak a little chip in everybody because again, this is concurrent with the great financial reset. They want to create quite literally a beast economic system where in order to participate

28:37in it, you'd have to have their little mark or whatever. They are pushing at the same time for everything to go to so-called digital currencies. First of all, a digital currency is not a currency because the value of what's in your bank account or your blips can be modified at the push of a button. If you're good boys and girls, oh, looky-looky, your currency is worth more than if you're bad little boys and girls. They're trying to connect all of this to a social credit system such as we have in communist China. Let's remember. I think they're trying to accomplish several objectives and on top of this, we have all of these adverse reactions coming out. I've put papers up on my website from medical professionals that highly suspect that these

29:41vaccines, these mRNA vaccines could lead to prion disease. In other words, Croitsfeld-Yachub's disease or otherwise known as Mad Cowell. And you raised a very good point. These are just the reactions we're observing now. What are going to be the long-term health effects to the people that receive these things or to their offspring? There are already studies indicating that these so-called vaccines can affect the fertility rate in women. I do believe if my member serves me correctly, I saw a study where it's also affecting the sperm count in men. It's affecting women's fertility, men's virility. What else have we got down the line waiting for? Neurological problems, reproduction problems, histamine reactions in some cases. Where is this going to end?

30:43We're already seeing the passports that they want to roll out. Exactly. Exactly. They're trying to clamp down on movement because of this. The bottom line here is you also indicated the statistics simply do not bear out that this is anything near a pandemic. It isn't. It isn't. So as far as I'm concerned, it's another big fraud. This has been the year, this year and last year, has been the year of massive fraud. Voter fraud, narrative fraud, epidemic fraud, financial fraud. And in other words, Mr. Global Lonies desperate. Yeah, that's that's the good thing to take away from this. If they're willing to go to this length and rip the mask off of themselves and exhibit what they really are and have always been, I would like to add, then it means they're in a very desperate spot. Yes, they do seem very desperate.

31:46And one of the most frustrating things about all this is we have healthcare professionals, we have doctors, we have scientists, we have people coming out and talking about how dangerous this is and how we people shouldn't be taking this. But immediately they're canceled, they're fired, they're shut off, they lose their jobs or even worse. You know, who knows what's happening to some of these people that are speaking up. And on top of that, we have enormous cancel culture right now that is out of control with the censorship. So you're only getting one side of information right now, unless you go deep searching on BitToot or some of these other platforms and you have to really search for any alternative information these days. And that is a huge frustration for me that these professionals actually try to come out and then boof, you don't hear from them anymore. Right. Right. And the next step is just exactly what happened during World War II. Nazi Germany made it a capital offense to listen to the BBC or to be caught listening to it. So they're on that road.

32:49And I've got bad news for it. There's just too many people that are going to turn into the BBC, so to speak. It's, it's, it's law, they've lost their ability to control everything. And it's going to buy them in the, you know what? Because they're going to try and go ahead with their plan and they're in a hurry to do it. And the other thing we have to remember is when you're in a hurry, you make mistakes. Yeah, it's just, it goes with being human. Yeah, how far do you think this, this cancel culture and censorship can go? I mean, I've nearly lost my channel a couple of times already to where I'm just not posting anything that's getting canceled anymore, just, you know, normal stuff that they allow you to talk about. But everything, you know, we've had cartoon characters canceled this week. We've had Muppets, Pepe La Pue. I mean, how far? And do you think that people are really getting offended over this or is this just their decision to cancel this because they're saying people are getting offended?

33:51I, you know, it's so hard to tell what, you know, gauge where people really stand nowadays. Well, I think, look, I think most of it is they're saying people are offended or could be. And it's the, you know, the problem with any sort of form of progressivism is, is when is there enough progress? In other words, they've never stated a goal as to when this ends nor can they, because it's the process itself that they're involved with that empowers them. So in other words, don't expect these people, all of a sudden, to turn over a new leaf and be open to discussion. They're not. And this is why you see all of, all of these moves all over the West for a secession of some sort. We see states in, in, in, in the United States passing nullification law after nullification law preemptively. You know, this, so, you know, as far as I'm concerned, we're in a harpers ferry 2.0 moment

34:52here. You know, the, the parallels with the antebellum period prior to the war between the states in this country is astonishing and somewhat frightening. Well, on top of that, they're also pushing racial division through the media. And they're pushing racial division. They're pushing sexual division. They're pushing demographic division, if you're, you know, old versus young and on and on, we could go. And again, this is, to me, this is a sign that, that the powers that be are very, very desperate. Shop vans and Albertsons for fresh savings every time you shop. This week at vans and Albertsons get fresh, boneless, skinless chicken breasts for 199 per pound limit 10 pounds. And locally grown grape-ere cotton candy grapes are 299 per pound with digital coupon. Plus 24 packs of Canada dry or 7-up 12 ounce cans are 499 limit 1 with digital coupon. Enjoy fresh and delicious savings for every meal. Hurry in, these deals won't last.

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36:55Vans or Albertsons.com for more deals and ways to save. And that's why they're in a hurry. They need to get this planet locked down. And I just don't think they're going to be successful. Right. And on top of all that, we have another agenda. We have this transhuman agenda, which personally, you know, I don't care. You can be a dog, you can be a cat, you can be a girl boy, whatever. But it's the pushing of normalizing this agenda on the on mainstream society. It's if my girlfriend's a a female fighter and this 250 pound guy decides he's a woman and that he's a female fighter and he goes in and bash his or skull and you know that's when it's not okay with me. Exactly. But they're pushing this stuff on society to where you know you can be whatever you want now. You can be a cockroach. You can be a cat dog, you know, it's getting insane. Well, it's getting insane because it's a way of it's a technique in a certain sense.

38:03And many of my listeners will recognize it as a very old one. It's the kind of noctisism. It's making believe that you can alter reality simply by pronouncing a magic formula. Oh, I'm a boy today. I'm a girl today or whatever. And what it's designed to do in the long run is so unhinged you from a reality that you can no longer make any rational decision because you're not capable anymore of rational analysis of what's going on because they're changing. They're again, this is the process. The more they can accelerate the process, the more confused they make people. And you cannot react quickly enough to their changes. So it's another way of in my opinion, just making people passive and irrational. Do you think that some sort of uprising is the only answer to this that we, you know,

39:06people taking up arms and charging the capital? You know, what do you think could be the possible answer to this? Well, I think, you know, I think that they are playing with fire. Let's put it that way because I think that they are ratcheting up frustration so bad. And they may be doing it deliberately or not. I don't know. But eventually in these kinds of systems where you are utterly, you're running things in a way that is utterly out of touch with reality. Inevitably the normal people just have had enough and they will, they will fight back at some point. But this is the problem. And I, I've warned everybody I talked to about this. Whenever you throw those kinds of dice, the best laid plans go right out the window almost immediately.

40:08You know, think of Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941. It was a well-worked plan. The logistical part of the plan was calculated precisely. And they were almost victims of their own success in the way. So that Hitler thought he could fundamentally modify the plan. And therefore the logistical supply support for the plan at the drop of a hat and change it up completely. And of course the result was a mess. You know, and thankfully it was a mess. But you know, anytime you start talking those kinds of dice, lockdowns, martial law, civil war, revolution, no plan survives contact with the enemy. You know, so Mr. Global Lonnie, think twice. All you, all you, you know, militia types think twice, you know, because it could get

41:10out of hand real fast. Yeah, yeah. I think it's going to be a very interesting future to say the least the next few years to see what plays out. Now there's something, there's another aspect to this that I try to wrap my head around. And it's the whole occult aspect to it. And it's become more evident over the past few years. And you know, I argue with researchers over, you know, do they really believe in this stuff? Or is this just a form of culture creation? Or is this, they actually really doing rituals? I know the sex trafficking and, you know, satanic, you know, sex rituals. I know that that's real, but these are people at the top at the very top. Do they really believe in this stuff? Or they really, you know, performing these rituals and doing this occult stuff because we see on TV, on Netflix, especially the past few years, we've had a massive outbreak of like a cult and witchcraft and satanism normalization.

42:11And all these shows coming out lately. And it's been pretty obvious agenda that they're trying to kind of like normalize the occult. But my question is why? Well, the simple answer is that they're afraid of Christ. The complex answer is that I think that many of them start out thinking that this is all just kind of hoke them and they're going along with it because it's the trendy thing to do. And these other powerful people are in all of this bizarre stuff. So, you know, to be part of this set. But I do think at the top of the power pyramid, and we have to qualify that. That the top of the power pyramid is the middle managers of the whole picture. But at the top of the power pyramid, humanly speaking, I think that there is a very narrow

43:17circle of people that absolutely believe it. And they believe it because in a certain sense, their magic works. And they've seen it work. This is something I think that at least my own studies have convinced me of that there's always a certain kind of occult elite somewhere in operation. A good, for example, for your listeners is to get a hold of two books on the Franklin scandal that rocked the first shrub White House back in the late 1980s. This was a scandal that erupted in Omaha around the Franklin savings and loan credit bureau.

44:22And it literally did involve children and adolescents that were introduced into kind of a sex magic slavery circle that once you get into it was definitely nationwide. There's two books about it. One is by a senator and attorney for the state of Nebraska that actually was part of the state's investigation of it. And the other is a book by Nick Bryant that I can't remember the titles to either of these two books. One is called the Franklin cover up and Bryant's book is something else. When you read the the affidavits when I'm getting at here, when you read the affidavits of the people that were involved in that scandal, it was very clear that they were dealing with people that practiced these rituals that practiced human sacrifice and that genuinely believed that these practices gave them some sort of power.

45:23The leader of this outfit was a powerful and rich man. So there's something to it. And as far as I'm concerned that that Franklin scandals just the tip of the iceberg, we've had many, many scandals that I think are interconnected if you want to look at them a certain way. Yeah, definitely. And do you think that once you reach a certain level of power, say in politics or I mean, you hear about actors and movie stars having to go through certain initiations, but I'm talking about really high level politicians or even businessmen, do you think that once you reach a certain level that there is inevitable compromization that you're going to be introduced to something that you're going to have to make a decision whether you want

46:23to participate in? Yes, I do. I do. One of my friends, Katherine Austin Fitz talks a lot about control files on politicians. And this, you know, this is an old intelligence agency playbook. You know, this goes back to the early days of the Checa and the Soviet Union. It goes back to the early days of the Gestapo and in the Third Reich, where you would, you would deliberately set up situations where a politician would be compromised in some way, usually a sexual situation, but not always. And you know, recorded and then say, oh, we've got this on you, cooperate, you know, when this vote comes up and so on and so forth. Another example. The name John Roberts appears in the flight logs of Jeffrey Epstein.

47:24Now we don't know if that's the Supreme Court justice or not, but what we do know was in the crucial Supreme Court vote on Obamacare at the last minute, he apparently flipped his vote. So in other words, this would be a perfect way to exercise that kind of influence if that story, those two events are connected. And if that's the John Roberts and Epstein's book, well, I can't imagine Epstein hobnobbing with any other John Roberts. You know, so on and on this goes. So yeah, I do think that some of these people enter into situations and, you know, all of a sudden, they're for whatever reason, they're compromised. They've got some control file on them. Another classic example for me is I've always suspected there's something going on with Senator McCain and on and on we go, we could go.

48:25It's sad, but it's the way the swamp operates. Yeah, that is that's pretty much my analysis as well. Now we have a few minutes left. I want to get to some of the UFO mania that's been happening lately. In the past few years, we've had the umama, uma, I always mispronounced that thing, umu, uma, uma, uma, uma, uma. There it is. That's the supposed alien space travel with it too. I don't know anybody who does. Yes, umu, uma. And then we had the tick tack then last year or was it early this year? I think we had the Israeli space security chief talking about the galactic fed federation. AV Loeb says the umu, uma was a probe. Uh, Trump slipping in UFO contingent into the COVID bill. It goes on and on with the UFO stuff the past few years. And I'm wondering again, why is it now? Are they, you know, is this another preparation? Is it another psi op?

49:26Um, or, or are we going to find out something that's inevitable? You know, I like to get your thoughts on this. Well, part of me says yes and part of me says no because, you know, I've been like I mentioned when we started the talk, you know, I became interested in the subject of UFOs as a boy. And I've been hearing this talk of imminent disclosure and so on. Shop vans and Albertsons for fresh savings every time you shop. This week at vans and Albertsons get fresh, boneless, skinless chicken breasts for one 99 per pound limit 10 pounds. And locally grown grape re cotton candy grapes are 299 per pound with digital coupon. Plus 24 packs of Canada dry or 7 up 12 ounce cans are 499 limit one with digital coupon. Enjoy fresh and delicious savings for every meal. Hurry in, these deals won't last. Visit vans or Albertsons.com for more deals and ways to save. You know, right now what's happening in the ufoji field is all of this hoopla over the fact

50:31that the New York Times is reporting on these UFO events and not poo pooing. Well, this is not new folks. The New York Times has reported on UFOs and not poo pooed them going back to the 1970s. This is not new. So, okay, forget about the history for a moment. It's not new. Would the government deliberately leak things in order to prep a narrative, of course it would? My suspicion is, however, that yes, there has been an uptick in several stories for one reason. And that is now in the last decade or so. What you're seeing, Chris, is you're seeing all of these stories about going out and commercializing space, mining asteroids, setting up bases on the moon. Well, here's the problem folks. As I pointed out over and over again, if you're going to go mine stuff on the moon or mine and asteroid,

51:38chemical rockets are not going to be sufficient for the job. You're going to have to have alternative means of propulsion. And those alternative means of propulsion are likely to be rather exotic. So, to me, if you're planning on going out and commercializing space, here's another problem. If there is somebody out there, are we stepping on their toes? Are we getting involved in their business? And again, I suspect the answer to that is yes. Hence, and I've said this before, hence the reason that we have always put on our space probe plaques, little announcements like we're coming in peace for all mankind. Well, who are we making that announcement to and why? Okay.

52:38So yeah, I suspect they're prepping a narrative. Could they fake such an event? Sure they could. Would they be capable of faking such an event if it suited their purposes? Sure they could. So, you know, I'm both skeptical and a jaundice believer, if you want. If you want to put it that way, because I think I think Mr. Global Lonely quite liberally is capable of anything. These are narcissistic psychopaths, we're dealing with. Now do you think that there are factions that actually have technology or reverse engineer technology that is capable of doing this already? And, you know, is most of the stuff we see in the sky, them, if the, if the answer's yes? I do think the tech that we have technological secrets that probably far exceed. What we can imagine everything that I've run across in the literature says we do.

53:42My problem is in the pistol, my problem is that every human advance or ingenuity of that nature has to be explained by crashed and retrieved vehicles. I make the joke that if, if this is what has, has been the root of all of this exotic technology that people speculate that humanity possesses, then pretty soon we're going to have to start crashing our stuff on ET's homeworld so the thing catch back up with this. In other words, this is an explanation that goes nowhere. I prefer to look at what is in the scientific papers themselves and what are their implications. Well, when you look at things that way, you can find some astonishing stuff going all the way back to the period between the two world wars. You know, and this is humans talking about this stuff and it's, it's, it's, it's not reliant on this business. Oh, the Nazis recovered a UFO or re recovered a UFO.

54:45Just look at the engineering papers and what some of these scientists and technicians and engineers were up to. Extrapolate from there. And when you do, it's rather astonishing. Now, what do you think when it comes to the actual abduction phenomenon and people's accounts that are extremely similar, you know, the, the, the gray teas with the big eyes, being strapped to a table, having experiments done possibly, you know, with fertility or eggs or DNA or something like that. And all these people have similar accounts. Do you think that there is something to this or is it maybe some kind of government black project or do you think that people are really being taken by something that's off this planet? Well, let's put it this way. Number one, I don't disbelieve abductees.

55:45Number two, could they be taken by people off this planet? Yeah, maybe. But number three, let's look at the graves. To me, the graves, if they exist, would be a much more appropriate response to conditions where people are living underground all the time. And so, what are we really looking at people off this world? Or are we looking for, at creatures from right here? I don't know. Are we looking at military siops of some sort? Again, there's evidence for that. And most peculiarly, Dr. Valet, Jacques Valet, passport to Magonia, I think was the book where he outlined this hypothesis. And he shared a bunch of abduction stories just accepted them at face value for what they were with all of those stories from the middle ages of incubuses and succubuses and middle of the night abductions and you know weird sexual experiments and so on and so forth.

56:53So in other words, even that part of the narrative is not really that new. I don't know. I do suspect the one thing I am very suspicious of is that when you look at the stories of mythology from the Chimel Papoca, the Aztecs to the Popole voo and the Vedic literature, the Bible, the Babylonian texts and so on. And so all seem to indicate that somebody was here long ago doing something, you know, and the odd thing is they look like us in many instances talk like us, you know, and so on and so forth. In some cases, they don't. So I look at it that we're looking at a phenomenon with abduction that may be very, very old and that has been going on for a very long time. What about the possibility that there is other realities just beyond the spectrum of our vision with lit life, you know, living organisms, all teaming around us at all times, you know, intelligent entities that we could communicate with under certain circumstances and they have the ability to phase in and out of our reality.

58:12I don't have, I don't have any difficulty with that at all. I mean read the descriptions of angels in the Bible, you know, clearly you're dealing with something that materializes or can take on a physical manifestation, you've got similar traditions in Islam, you've got all of those traditions and Judaism, you've got the Vedas, you know, pretty much every, every old tradition on the planet has some version of this, I don't have any problem with it. Let's go a little bit further. The Egyptians, of course, had the idea that that stars were somehow alive, they were kind of a meta life. Well, in the 50s, there was a famous plasma physicist by the name of David Bowen, very well known man in in in standard physics, this was his bad plasma physics. And he suddenly quit all of his plasma experiments, because he had concluded that plasmas, you know, the sun is what it's a big ball of plasma, you know, lightning during a thunderstorm, you know, nothing but a plasma.

59:23Well, he had come to the conclusion that plasmas exhibited four out of the five signs of life, including the ability to self organize, you know, so all of a sudden he just quit, because he didn't want to be playing around with this stuff anymore, because we don't really know what we're doing. So yeah, you know, I have no problem believing in non corporeal immaterial life forms, I have no problem believing that there may be life forms that inhabit parts of the electromagnetic spectrum that human eyes cannot see if you have pet animal, you know cats or dogs, even sometimes birds, you know, they'll react to things that, you know, you wonder what's the name of the planet. You wonder what the name of sense are they reacting I was looking at my cat earlier wonder what the hell are you looking at yeah exactly. So who knows. I just the bottom line for me, Chris is I just don't believe in this nice Cartesian Newtonian mechanized universe that is all material, you know, I'm not a materialist of I'll just say it right up front i'm not a materialist in terms of my philosophy.

1:00:39Yeah, I would definitely have to agree with that and Dr. Farrell there is so much stuff we could talk about this has been a fascinating conversation i'd love to have you back on the future just some more topics. Sure, that's fine, let me know when just send me an email I will definitely and yes, that was fascinating stuff and till next time everyone else have an excellent evening thank you Dr. Farrell. Thank you for having me on Chris. And these deals won't last visit vans or Albertsons dot com for more deals and ways to save.

1:01:43Today I want to welcome back to the show Anthony Peak is a best selling author lecturer broadcaster and leading thinker in the area of consciousness studies. His ideas apply scientific reasoning to some of the greatest mysteries of the universe. Anthony welcome back how you doing i'm doing well Chris how about you amazing thank you so much for coming back on today we're going to be discussing your book near death experiences the science psychology and anthropology behind the phenomena and i'm really looking forward to sharing this information not only does your work resonate highly with my understandings but i'm fascinated by people's near death experiences the accounts. And the implications for the nature of reality before we get to deep this has been a while since you've been on remind the audience just a little bit about yourself and let them know how they can find out more about you. Yeah okay the name is Anthony Peak i'm a UK based author now written 13 books numerous articles a number of peer reviewed academic papers on the subject matter i talk about.

1:02:54In terms of background and education i have a double honors degree at the university of warwick here in the UK and i did postgraduate at the law school of economics where i specialized in economics and psychology. I'm interested in unusual human experiences ever since my days at well ever since the mid 1960s really. And chose my subject matter quite carefully because i'm very much interested in the sociology of belief the sociology of religion. But also i'm very interested in the scientific applications of trying to explain extraordinary phenomena using science which has been my philosophy so over the years i've very much focused in on near death experiences out of body experiences. And if anybody wants to contact me as well my i'm very active on facebook i have my own youtube channel by you can search by just finding Anthony Peak. I also have my own website which is antonypeak.com and you can also find me on instagram as well.

1:03:59Oh yes and all my books are available by basically even ordering it from your local library in that i'm not vanity published or i'm not self published i'm actually a proper author in raise commas in the sense that publishes actually pay me in advance to write books for them which means that my books get everywhere. And also if you're interested my books are in various foreign language editions as well you'll also get them on kindle and on audible which i had to audition to read my own books as well on that as well so the books are out there if you want to buy them that's fine if you want to watch your children from the library i don't mind it's getting the ideas out there that's important. Excellent i'll have those links easily accessible for everyone in description so they can check those out as we speak what was it in particular that brought you to write this book. Well because near death experiences have been a central part of my writings over the last 21 years or so probably slightly longer now and it's the near death experience i think that really encapsulates so many areas of my own developing hypothesis about the nature of reality in the interface between consciousness and whatever external reality is.

1:05:15In that it involves many of the factors of my own cheating the ferryman hypothesis which we may touch upon as we progress through the discussion but effectively what happens to human consciousness at the point of death i think is probably singularly the most important question any sentient any sentient being is interested in we all know were mortal as one of the famous statements many years. There's only two inevitabilities in life tax and death and we certainly understand tax to a great degree but we don't necessarily understand what is taking place when we die and although i've touched upon near death experiences many many times in my writings i really wanted to focus in a book exclusively on near death experiences so what i gave myself the task to do was to read virtually every single academic paper. There had been written on near death experiences over the last 40 years 50 years and talk to as many experiences as i could and also really check out the latest research that's been done in the area of near death experiences so in my latest book you will find a review of near death experiences probably unique in in the writings on the subject thus far.

1:06:38Because i very much take a scientific rational approach to it i you if you want a book on G was it happened to me and i saw Jesus in a cloud that my book is not for you my book will be telling you in great detail what happens neurologically within the brain at the point of death the neuro chemicals that release these kind of things it is not an easy read but it is an important read but if you want the books were just people tell you their wonderful stories about floating in hell. And heaven and lord knows what else there are the books for that but if you want real answers and issues that you can take to the skeptics my book is fairly important for you i think within the realm of scientific aspects of near death experiences what did you really focus on in the book give us a synopsis. Okay well basically i'm fascinated by the the the the evidence that's now being discovered regarding the neurological and neuro chemical aspects of near death experiences and in that i've been working closely with a number of academics and in fact i was delighted when.

1:07:49A young neuroscientist by the name of Pascal Michael doctor Pascal Michael actually approached me wanting to write the forward to this book because that was a great importance to me because Pascal and the people he works with at the moment are doing some phenomenal work in terms of really understanding the relationship not only between between near death experiences and brain processes but also the similarities between near death experiences and the world. And experiences in within the agent such as five me ODMT and dimethyl trip to me and there are clear parallels to be taken there but also i'm interested in some of the amazing discoveries that have been made over recent years regarding. Literally being able to scan the brain of a dying person and the results they found from this and there's been a series of about four or five really interesting academic papers that have been written over the years and indeed one of them is now all over social media there's there's an effect of a guy who a Canadian guy that was living in southern Germany in 2022.

1:09:06He was 80 finally years of age maybe slightly older than that and he fell off a ladder while he was decorating his house and he was rushed to hospital and while he was in the hospital he went into a series of epileptic seizures that status was called status ap epilepticus and they decided they needed to scan his brain to see what was going on and while they were scanning his brain using very high technology equipment he died. So for the first time ever there was a scenario whereby a human beings brain was being scanned as they died because of course ethically you could never actually do that because you never get anybody's volunteer to be the subject in the start off but effectively what was discovered was absolutely sensational unbelievable in fact because the it was shown that the guys brain effectively immediately after he died. And when there should have been no brain activity at all because he was brain dead and in the book I discuss in great deal detail what we mean when we say somebody is dead because it's profoundly important we're talking about near death experiences that we define exactly what we mean by life and death but effectively he had died and a few seconds afterwards there was a massive amount of brain activity the brain suddenly started huge amount of activity in a dead brain.

1:10:33Now the reviewers have taken this as evidence of the near death experience you know for the first time we have proof that there is brain activity post mortem and the question is what is that brain activity what is that brain activity doing and indeed more importantly if there is brain activity is the consciousness there and if there is consciousness there the only what is the you know in other words brain activity a lot of it is autonomic a lot of it. We're not aware of as it's happening but effectively the brain activity in the areas of the brain that lit up in this particular case were very much the visual systems and the processing systems and the higher order systems within the brain which was suggesting that consciousness was consciousness was something was being projected into consciousness. Now I argue that was the panoramic life review which we can touch on later but clearly this is extraordinary and this is not this is this case is not alone there's a guy called lack me a chalwa that has been doing work in the United States in Washington over the years where he has been experimenting with mammals and with chimpanzees and monkeys and everything else and if they found the same things

1:11:51and they discover for instance there was one case again there was a guy called Piapolo Pani who in 2018 managed to get exactly the same things that the the the Vicente case which is the one I'm talking about from 2022 they found with a macaque monkey were they euthanized a macaque monkey and again there was this massive increase of certain types of brain waves in the brain gamma wave gamma waves and gamma waves are known for being the higher level you know they're equivalent of dreams so it's as if we die in a dream state so this is really interesting and there's a couple of other experiments I'd like to focus in on if we get the time later on which we enforce this as well but we're in very interesting time here at the moment which is regards near death experiences mentioned earlier the importance of establishing a clear definition of death maybe we should do that before we go any further for the audience how would you define death

1:13:08plus 24 packs of Canada dry or 7 up 12 ounce cans are 499 limit one with digital coupon enjoy fresh and delicious savings for every meal hurry in these deals won't last visit vans or Albertsons dot com for more deals and ways to save well this is the thing there has been an in the book I have a whole section on this that over the years particularly after 1967 when the very first heart transplant took place in South Africa a guy called Louis Wushkansky was given a heart by a neurosurgeon called Christian Barnard now this suddenly opened up a can of worms because suddenly we were in the position that we could by harvesting organs from somebody we could allow somebody else to survive but of course you have to have basically a living person in order to harvest the organs for instance you can't take a heart out of a corpse because the heart has stopped beatings the heart has already started to deteriorate very very quickly

1:14:20so the question then was we need to understand what is life and what is death far more accurately and there was a whole series of symposiums and discussions and research done in the United States to define exactly what we mean when we talk about death and this is why we end up with the confusing terms of brain death and clinical death now people will turn round and say that some people have had near death experiences and they have died and come back nobody has had brain death and come back because by definition you cannot come back from brain death it's when the brain has ceased function it's when there is no oxygen available in the brain and the thing is with brain cells they desperately need oxygen brain cells cannot create their own energy or the cells in the body and other organs in the body can generate their own energy whereas brain cells cannot so therefore they need oxygen and no more than two or three minutes of loss of oxygen to the brain and the brain is irreparably damaged

1:15:30and there is no coming back from that so the question then is at what point do we decide what death is now what is intriguing is different states of the United States have different definitions of what death is and what brain death is and now for instance there are certain things you can tell for instance there is something to do with if you shine a light into the eye the way the pupil expands or not if the pupil doesn't expand it means the brain isn't functioning very effectively but what really matters is when the brain stem dies because then the body is really dead the brain stem is the ear at the back of the brain which is effectively what people would call the reptilian brain it's the kind of the bits of the brain that makes us move, makes us walk around but it's not conscious in any way whereas the conscious part of the brain the cerebral cortex that functions in a different way but brain stem death means there is no coming back at all

1:16:32because effectively you can be brain dead and there can be no brain activity but your body can be still alive particularly these days with modern technology where you can keep somebody you can keep somebody alive in a permanent vegetative state there's still technically alive but they are dead or are they because that's the issue now with these discoveries about this sudden brain activity soon afterwards the Vicente paper which suggests that we need to be a little bit more careful here you know the idea of whether people are consciously aware of that type of thing so it's very important that we define death but also we need to define life we need to understand when we talk about something being alive what do we mean by that how do we define life how do we and then the billion dollar question how do we define consciousness how do we define the existence of perception within the brain

1:17:33because of course does perception occur in the brain or is perception something a lot more complex than that I mean for instance we know that you can take the brain apart and you can scan the brain down to the molecular level but you'll never find consciousness you'll never find it anywhere you will find brain activity but that's confusing the map with the territory because just brain activity doesn't necessarily mean that that is proof that consciousness is in the brain or not you know for instance there is evidence of activity in a radio when a radio is attuned to a radio station you know the old valve radios that lights would go on on everything so you could look at the back of an old radio and you could tell whether it was receiving information from a radio station through radio waves but the radio station and all the processing and all the sounds and all the music that's coming out the speaker are not in the radio and there's more and more information suggesting that that consciousness and awareness is in fact something that spontaneously occurs when the brain reaches certain levels of complexity

1:18:49because I've argued in one of my previous books I argued that does consciousness occur at the addition of one molecule within the brain one particular mixture of chemicals is it one quark you know is it one atom you know is it one minute there's no consciousness the next minute it is so there are really big questions here about the nature of reality and people who believe that there's a one-to-one relationship between the brain and the brain outside world a more and more in a minority now because we know that we internally create a model of what is out there within the brain so is there any out there or even in there and these the areas I discussed in my writing before we move away from the neurological processes and science that you include in the book like brain scans and what they tell us you mentioned some of the DMT studies that are occurring talk a little bit about the brain talk a little bit about what's happening there as well as some of the more profound information that the brain scans themselves are telling us shop vans and Albertsons for fresh savings every time you shop this week at vans and Albertsons get fresh boneless skinless chicken breast for one ninety nine per pound limit ten pounds and locally grown

1:20:08grapey cotton candy grapes are two ninety nine per pound with digital coupon plus 24 packs of Canada dry or seven up 12 ounce cans are 499 limit one with digital coupon enjoy fresh and delicious savings for every meal hurry in these deals won't last visit vans or Albertsons dot com for more deals and ways to save okay well it's quite important here to define exactly what we're talking about when we talk about substances called in theogens and in theogens is the generic term that used by neuroscientists and neurologists to explain how certain chemical substances for some reason can completely change how the brain functions for example if you take psilocybin mac magic mushrooms something happens in the brain and your perception of the world changes when you take dimethyl trip to mean which we can expand on in a little if you wish your whole perceptual universe changes

1:21:11you move away from being in this what is jokingly called consensual reality and you end up being literally ejected and sent to another reality that people who take it say is more real than this is so the question again is all we have here is certain certain molecules reacting with the the structures of the brain to create different places different universes and this in itself is very very curious and very very strange so the question is you know how do these substances do it and when they do it where do they take us and it seems the latest research is extraordinary like for instance there was there's research being done recently um by a guy called robin car heart car heart Harris and I think he's an imperial college in London and the work they've been doing with psilocybin is incredible now psilocybin is effectively what most people know is magic mushrooms

1:22:15and the idea is that it's just long being believed that what happens is when you take these substances what they do is they actually make the brain more cohesive they make different parts of the brain work together in a more effective and dynamic way okay and that was what was genuinely believed but car heart Harris and his team have proved something the different it seems that when you take these substances it actually stops the brain communicating with itself it actually disrupts the signals traveling across the brain so when they say that psilocybin or DMT creates a hallucinatory world we've got the double problem of we don't know what hallucinations are anyway but more importantly we don't we don't know how it does it now there is an argument to say that this is exactly what people like myself as long argued that the these substances disrupt the brain's ability to act as an attenuator now by that I mean attenuator is something that takes information out okay now many many

1:23:20years ago way back um 1890s a guy called Henri Berg's news of French philosopher argued that reality out there there's far more of it that we can't perceive and we can't perceive because the brain stops us the brain is programmed to allow us to function in whatever this is whatever this matrix is whatever this holographic illusion that we live within is and what happens is when you take certain substances it disrupts the brain's ability to do that now this is exactly again what a guy called CD broad argued in the 1930s and famously all this Huxley in his 1954 book the book the the doors of perception this is exactly what Huxley argued uh and he had he had certain experiences with peote and he argued that he felt that his brain was being stopped from acting as an attenuator

1:24:23the brain's ability to act as a barrier to information was eroded and destroyed and this is exactly what Carhartt Harrison as associates have discovered they found that the brain ceases to be able to communicate with itself which means it no longer can function to stop the wider reality coming through in other words it's opening the doors of perception wider by inhibiting the brain's abilities to act as an attenuator now I would argue that this is a great importance because I argue and other writers are arguing now as well that what happens when we start to die is the brain that's what happens in the brain the brain starts to break down in the final moments before death the brain's abilities to function because it's suffering from oxygen starvation effectively it cannot function in the way it normally does which breaks down the barriers and allows people to have these experiences that have been reported for centuries I mean there are things such as known as

1:25:23terminal lucidity people who are dying of Alzheimer's disease and have not been communicative for years will suddenly start communicating other people when they start to die they will see dead relatives they will start hearing voices and all these things I think are to do with certain neurotransmitters in the brain and I think one of the major components of this is a substance called glutamate and glutamate is the major new and a neurotransmitter is something that facilitates communication between the neurons of the brain and it has been long argued that glutamate is very can be very dangerous in great amounts it causes something called excitotoxicity which effectively destroys the neurons by making them fill with water and explode and there is an argument that there are other substances in the brain that stop the glutamate being effective they're like glutamate inhibitors and they believe there's a guy called Carl Jansen who came up with this model because he noticed

1:26:29similarities between near death experiences and a substance that there's basically quite in the news at the moment that the moment ketamine and of course ketamine and ketamine was the substance that the guy that was in friends died of taking and this substance again seems to limit the near death experience and the question is why it does it and they've argued that there is a substance in the brain that they're not sure about that seems to be released at times of stress and times of danger and this is what brings about like for instance I'll guarantee there's a lot of people watching this who will have had been given bad news or they've been in a car accident and time seems to suddenly slow down and it's again as if some chemical in the real the body has been released that changes our perception of reality now I argue that that substance that is causing this has been known historically for hundreds thousands of years it's known as soma or amrit

1:27:34and it is a substance that seems to be tasted sometimes people sometimes can taste this substance throat in fact there is a technique used in India called Kakaramudra where people's adept and mystics will train themselves to place the tongue at the back of the neck or back of the throat the curve the tongue over and when they do that they lick the back of the throat and the reason they do that is they say that you can taste something called the nectar of transcendence now I argue that this nectar of transcendence is endogamous that is internally generated dimethyltrectamine and I believe that the brain or the pineal gland specifically generates this substance and during times of stress it releases it into the system now Dian dimethyltrectamine is being found in the body but it's never until very recently

1:28:36being found in the brain and you will still see papers where people will turn around and say DMT has been found in the liver it's been found in the stomach but it's never been found in the brain well 2014 people should know in 2014 an experiment took place at the University of Michigan by a young Japanese American researcher called Jimo Borgijin and Jimo under her team they basically euthanized rats they beheaded them and they had three types of rats they had rats that had been anithetized so they were unconscious they had rats who were conscious and there was a third time I can't remember the third type was but effectively they then beheaded them or they and everything or they gas them and they did various things with them and they discovered some extraordinary things the first thing they discovered was that there was a repeat of what I was talking about earlier the rat was dead and then suddenly six or seven seconds after death the

1:29:37brain fires up again and lots of gamma ray activity gamma wave activity exactly the same as the elderly gentleman in the Vicente case so this has been known for years because the first time I've seen in human beings but she also did another experiment with rats and she did a similar experiment and they looked into the the brains of the dead rats and they found dimethyltrutamine inside the pineal gland of the rats now the question is where did this DMT come from why was the most powerful hallucinogenic substance known to man actually in these brains how did it get there and the argument is and I suggest and I'm not original on this but I do cite it in my books and I think I'm one of the few writers pointing this out that within the brain the pineal gland creates a substance called melatonin and melatonin is a substance that makes you want to go to sleep okay it's that kind of sleep mechanism and interestingly enough the pineal gland sits just below what's called the optic chiasma which is where the light where the the the information and the light and the stimulus from

1:30:44the eyes goes to the visual cortex at the back of the brain and as it goes in the the two lines from each eyes cross and it's called the optic chiasma and the pineal gland sits on top of it now the pineal gland has been known for years for being called the third eye and this is because it's light sensitive and it's light sensitive for a reason because it needs to know when it's going dark in the external environment and as soon as the pineal gland notices there's no activity within the optic chiasma and the optic nerve it starts creating this substance melatonin now if you look at the structure of the the molecule of melatonin and the molecule of dimethyl triptermine they are so similar I think I'm writing saying I think it's too hydrogen atoms I think is the only difference so it's quite easy to visualize how the pineal gland could synthesize from melatonin

1:31:45internally generated dimethyl triptermine now I argue that there is actual evident proof of this physiologically because at the 49th day of gestation the embryo has at the back of its throat it has something called the epiphesis and the epiphesis is effectively the pineal gland and the pituitary gland together and as the 49th day of gestation takes place which is by the way the date that the Buddhists believe that consciousness and comes into the brain the it splits and it moves up from the back of the throat to the center of the brain and then the two split off into separate units they leave something called rathke's pouch which is a kind of a like a kind of a channel that runs down to the back of the throat now imagine what I argue again and something as an associates of mine have suggested this that if the pineal gland creates dint on certain circumstances

1:32:52where's it going to go it's like a liquid form it's going to drip down rathke's cleft to the back of the throat remember I mentioned cacada moodra these guys doing this they're doing this because they're tasting dint teeth shop vans and albertons for fresh savings every time you shop this week at vans and albertons get fresh boneless skinless chicken breast for 199 per pound limit 10 pounds and locally grown grape re cotton candy grapes are 299 per pound with digital coupon plus 24 packs of canada dry or 7 up 12 ounce cans are 499 limit one with digital coupon enjoy fresh and delicious savings for every meal hurry in these deals won't last visit vans or albertons.com for more deals and ways to save now again what is intriguing here is there are tribes in columbia in Latin America called the mammoths and they they take young children straight after birth and they they put

1:33:52them in a cave where there's no natural light and these kids grow up in this scenario with no natural light and I believe the reason they do this is because these kids are trainee shamans and they're trainee shamans for a reason because because they're denied access to light it means that melatonin in their brains right from the the start from the you know their childhood the pineal gland is trained to create more and more melatonin why is it needing to do that it's needing to do that because that melatonin is being turned into endogamous dimethyl trip to mean which allows them to shine much shamanic travel so there are so many links here and there's so many more discoveries being made by by these researchers about these substances in the brain and how DMT and the near death experience are profoundly similar now i'll finish in a second but the most important pieces of research that I cite in the book is by the guy that wrote the forward pascal

1:34:55Michael as pascal Michael and another associate of mine professor David Luke who's another researcher into DMT they were really intrigued about the experiences of an american neurosurgeon by the name of uh eban Alexander III and eban Alexander was a skeptical atheist neurosurgeon and a few years ago he came down with a very virulent form of viral meningitis and he nearly died and he was unconscious for a long time virtually flatlined and after about a week of this state he came out of it. And he changed, he described what happened to him when he was in this state. And he found himself, and it's really incredible, he found himself, he sort of, he's died,

1:35:56he lose his consciousness, and then suddenly he's somewhere else completely. And he's in this mud, this kind of slime, and he finds himself climbing out the slime. And he looks around him, and he's in this completely different world. And he finds himself floating above himself. And then suddenly he finds himself on the wings of this massive butterfly. And sitting next to him on the butterfly, is this beautiful young woman, with a credible colored blue eyes, really uniquely colored blue eyes. And she starts to talk to him, and he talks back, and she explains what's happening to him, and he's in the lo... the lo... the lo... the lo... the lo... roms of dying and everything else. And then he has then a whole load of other experiences, which I won't go into at the moment. But he then comes back, comes to, and he's explaining what happened to him, and his parents are sitting there, and he explains, and he said, and the really bizarre thing was that was this beautiful young woman that had these incredible eyes. And his

1:36:58parents go really quiet, and they said, oh, oh, right. And he discovered, he'd had a sister, he never knew about, who died before he was born. And the thing that was unique about her was the color of her eyes. So clearly he'd either drawn up or he'd interface something from somewhere. Now, the interesting thing is that my associates Pascal and Luke, Michael and Luke, also found out from their research that, um, even Alexander is an interesting guy, because he's also taken DMT, and specifically a form of DMT called five meo DMT, which is even more powerful variant. So they have somebody who's had a near death experience and a DMT experience. And they interviewed him and asked him about it, and there were some things that were different, but a lawful lot was similar. Although he's fairly convinced that the experiences were

1:37:58qualitatively different, but I'd argue they would be because the near death experiences are much deeper experience than a DMT experience. So there are elements of similarities here. Now, again, with a DMT experience, you feel you fly out your body, you have out-of-body experiences, you feel time dilates, you meet the being of light, and you meet entities. Now, the entities you meet in DMT are again intriguing, because in my research, I've come to the conclusion, the DMT entities you meet are like the entities that people meet in shamanic traveling, you know, I was talking about the mummers, same kind of thing. And also, the entities that people meet in near-death experiences, and also entities people encounter in UFO abductions. And I believe that all the same entities. And it is interesting that these entities seem to

1:38:59have independence of us. And I will stop now, but it's very important to get this point across. Another associative mind is a guy called Dr. Carl H. Smith, University professor, everything else. And he's part of a research team that are volunteering to take DMT under controlled conditions, because it's a prescribed job in the UK and in the USA. But under certain conditions, you're allowed to take it for medical purposes or for medical research. And there's a group of volunteers that have been taking DMT every two weeks at Imperial College in London, and Carl is one of them, and they take it intravenously. So they inject it into them, or they have it injected into them. And then they go to the DMT world and describe what happened to them when they come back. Carl takes it the first time, shoots out of his body, and he finds himself in this place called the DMT cage, which is this weird place, and you have all these fractals and everything's breaking down around you. And he said suddenly this entity, like a man, it comes across and pokes him and said you shouldn't be doing

1:40:07it this way. This is not how you do it. And then lent back. Then he comes back two weeks later, and the same creature came over and said I told you last time you shouldn't be doing it. So clearly as Carl has said to me, this means these entities are independent of us. They're not hallucinations. They're far more than that. They're expecting us. So the question then asks the DMT world, alien encounters, alien abductions, and the near death experience, are all facets of the same thing. I'm right there with you. There's so many fascinating possibilities. I do want to shift a bit because I'm fascinated with how our perception, our theological beliefs, the state of our mental well-being and emotions affect the nature of near death experiences, and even things like psychedelic experiences. And you've spoken to many people who've had these. Would you say that primarily most people's experiences are positive or would it depend on

1:41:12these factors pretty heavily? It really depends. I mean effectively, if you look at a lot of the gurus that are peddling things like out-of-body experience training online these days and everything, because the out-of-body experience is also related to this. They will argue no, it's unlikely if ever you're going to have a bad experience. Well, I know people who've had very, very bad experiences, psychologically damaging experiences, because remember if you are in this altered state of consciousness, there's no escape. You can't automatically get back because you're already out there. And if the entities are more than just hallucinations, but even if they are hallucinations, they are created by our subconscious in some way. And they bring up all these ancient fears we have that we carry with us. So you're like in a nightmare scenario that you can't get out of, that's hyperreal.

1:42:15Well, to me, if they're giving you information that you didn't have before, sometimes they're giving you information that you shouldn't have access to, it seems that to me says that there is something, an external intelligence that we're interacting with. Well, yes, I mean, people who take DMT call the essence they encounter mother ayahuasca, because of course, ayahuasca is DMT. And clearly, there seems to be a centiants about it. Now, of course, Terence McKenna, the famous guy you used to write about ayahuasca experiences, called it the machine elves. And it seems to have a centiants that is almost humorous. It's almost as if it's pulling our legs, it's playing with us in some way. And this again can be paralleled with the writings of people like Jack Verly, the UFO researchers, who argue that the UFO phenomenon is also manipulating us. And as you know, every year now, I speak contact in the desert

1:43:18in Southern California, which is the world's biggest UFO event. And I have the opportunity there to speak to a lot of famous UFO individuals, Travis Walton, people like Whitley Streba, people like that. So we all get together and discuss these things. And that whole group are moving more and more towards this DMT hallucinatory world attitude. But the world out there is, if these entities are in somehow, and I argue they're not independent of us. They are brain-created. But they have independence of us as well. And I call this concept the agricultural. And in my book, The Hidden Universe, and opening the doors perception, I spend an awful lot of time. Hundreds of pages developing this hypothesis as to how these entities can be brain-generated and can be hallucinations, but can still be real. Because the question is, we go into quantum mechanics. We don't know what is

1:44:21real. We have no real idea of what is real. We believe that out there is real only because our senses tell us, we only believe out there is real if we are a naive realist. You know, the idea that we naively realize that there's a one-to-one relationship between what's out there and what's in your head. And of course, everything is brain-generated. Even now your brain is creating an internal facsimile of your studio and your interface with me. Because we never interact with anything in the physical universe. We don't. We never touch anything. We never actually touch anything because of electrostatic repulsion. So to say that, and we don't know, colors, green and red, they're not real. They're just vibrational states of the electromagnetic spectrum that the brain interpreters been red or green. So when then we start to look at then, well, what exactly are hallucinations? Well, by definition, a hallucination is something you experience on your own. But I know people who have had, they've gone into DMT spaces and they've met other people. Who they then feed back on.

1:45:25I mean, a guest that you need to have on your show is a very close friend of mine who's just brought out her first book, a young lady called Samantha Lee Treasurer. And her book on her body experiences is extraordinary, really groundbreaking, absolutely groundbreaking, Whitley Streiber interviewed her a couple of days ago and he's gone crazy with what she's talking about. Check her out. She's really, really good. She's going to be a superstar soon. And she's a qualified anthropologist. So she's not some kind of G-Wiz person. She's the real deal. But anyway, so going back, I mean, it is clear that when we talk about hallucinations, we don't know what really mean. So when you go to these places, can you really escape? Because if they have a reality and they get bad and you bring up the negative aspects like there are so many cases of demonic, nasty NDEs. I mean, Howard Storm, one of the NDE experiences. There's a classic

1:46:26example of this. He had malevolent entities pulling at him, trying to pull him down. Now, whether these were manifestations of his own sense or feelings, it doesn't matter. If they're real for you, they are real. And if it's visceral fear that you have here. So to make out that all Need ethics means it's a good, there is the concept of the Bardot state into better Buddhism. And I argue that in fact, the Bardot state is that kind of interim world between life and death. And when you see that again, these signs of somebody that's just died and there's activity, I believe that that activity is the Bardot state in Buddhism. Because if you're in the Bardot state, you know, you have bad Bardot state, you have good Bardot states. And it's all to do with your hopes and fears. But if we co-create this reality as more and more evidence from quantum mechanics is saying, we collapse the wave function, you know, that matter and everything else are basically statistical waves until they are measured or observed. Before then, they do not

1:47:28exist in three-dimensional space. Do we bring about that pulling them through into physical reality? Does the individual's beliefs, theological beliefs, does it heavily affect the nature of the near-death experience as in say a Christian would see angels or demons. But on the other end, if a person is a Buddhist or has a different spiritual belief system, would they inherently experience something related to that? Yes, they would. I mean, the Charles Sonders Pierce, who was an American philosopher many years ago, came up with the concept of the fanaron. And the fanaron is effectively the world that is created by us, formed by our expectations. So effectively, when you go into a near-death experience, depending upon your social programming, is what you will see. And I have long argued that, for instance, the being of light, which is one of the moody traits, it's one of

1:48:30the entities you experience, I would argue that that is an equivalent of the shamanic guide that people have in shamanic traveling. And this being will normally manifest itself in whatever social norms you expect it to be. If you are a Christian, it will manifest as Jesus. If you are a Hindu, it will be Shiva or it will be Brahman. Technically, it can't be Brahman because that's everything. But technically, it will be one of the minor gods. So clearly, this seems to be culturally based. And I have a whole section in the new book on the Anthropology of Near-death Experiences. And consistently, whatever your culture is, is what Near-death experience you get. It is very rare. And I'll stand corrected here. But, and I'm really keen, if there's anybody out there who has had or knows of some of these had a near-death experience when they have been a Christian and it's converted them to being a Muslim or being a Hindu or being a Jane. Because I

1:49:35don't know of it. All the examples I've got is that you go there and it's reinforcing your beliefs, which means it's created out of your expectations. But the question is then, how do we deal with the real mystery characters that people meet in Near-death Experiences? I'll give example. Children's Near-death Experiences. So many of them involved the children when they're in the dead world, as it were, when they're within the NDE world. They meet school friends who are alive. Interesting. Huh. They meet people who, like Elvis Presley. Elvis Presley is there to be greeted by them. Some children now, and again, Sam, Sam Treasurer is doing research on this for her next book. Some children. Because of the way in which we are now existing in a world of, of the visuals of computers, and we're living in virtual realities and we're on the screen all the time. Her work is very much saying that screen entities and things you expect on the screen, things from manga, are now

1:50:38bleeding into the Adeth experiences out of body experiences. And it's because we are co-creating this because our expectations are such. Children now expect to meet cartoon characters. Mickey Mouse happens a lot in Near-death Experiences with children. Now Mickey Mouse is not a belief system. Mickey Mouse is not a deity. Mickey Mouse is not a god, but he's there. Manga characters occur in Near-death Experiences. So clearly to just interpret it with your own religious worldview or your expectations doesn't work, there's more to it. And it's brain-created, but it's not. And again, I'll come back to the point that if this reality is brain-created, and we believe this is real, there's no reason to not believe that out there when we have these experiences, isn't real. But that was an excellent question, by the way. Really, really good. Was there any amount of people that didn't experience anything? Was there anyone that you've talked to that didn't experience anything at all? Oh yeah, this happens a lot. People

1:51:43when they have a Near-death experience or they go into what would be ordinarily a Near-death state, and they found nothing, just blank, nothing. But the problem is there that if you don't experience anything, there's no sensory input, so you can't describe what you didn't experience, because there's nothing. Now, my argument here isn't, it's so important. There are three categories we need to take here. There are Near-death Experiences, and there are real death experiences. In all the words, a Near-death experience is one where the person comes back to tell us the story of what happened. Nobody has ever come back from a real death experience to tell us what happens. And this is important, so nobody's been brain-dead, completely brain-dead, flat-lined, the brain has ceased to function completely. Nobody has ever come back from that,

1:52:43because you need the brain functioning in some way, in order for the perceptions to happen. Now, and this is so important, I argue that the reason we get confused with Near-death Experiences is there's one factor that people are not thinking about, and that's time perception. Remember that people say in a Near-death experience, time seems to slow down for them. Now, if time slows down for a person who's dying, by quickly thinking about that, you'll realize that the person you are watching die, their time is different to yours as the observer of that person dying, so very quickly you and that person are living in completely different timescales. And you can very quickly do from the maths, or from an application of like Zeno's bisection paradox, that the person who's dying may never actually get to the point of subjective death in their world of time. You see them die, but they never get there. It's like, imagine watching you suddenly go

1:53:48into a dream state now, and you have a whole dream that lasts hours, and you micro-dream, and we're talking. As far as I'm concerned, you just close your eyes for a couple of seconds, but you've been away for hours, which is the real hours, the hours that you spent in the dream, or the seconds I watched you dreaming it. And this is so important. Now, very much going back, so there's the real death experience and the near death experience, but there's also something else called a fear death experience. And this is very interesting, is that they have researched this, and they've discovered that people have near death experiences when they fear they are going to die. They anticipate they are going to die, even though they don't. Even though they don't sometimes go into the state where they are badly injured, but they still go through a near death experience. And this is because the brain is programmed when they think they're going to die to suddenly release these neurochemicals to bring about the near death experience. So there's definitely, there's not necessarily a one-to-one relationship between actually dying and experiencing

1:54:50a near death experience, and that is profoundly important. So interesting. Earlier you mentioned the panoramic life review. Talk about the implications you write about what this means for our reality, and some of the similarities people have had with this. Absolutely. Now, the panoramic life review is quite fascinating, in that it was first really discussed by a guy called Albert Heine, who was the president of the Alpine Climbers Club. I think he was Swiss. And he had a climbing accident where he fell off a cliff. And while he was falling, he had his, he saw his whole life go past his eyes in external time, a split second. And he managed to survive, and he was so intrigued by this, he started talking to other climbers who had had a similar experience, had fallen. And he found that a vast, a large majority of them had

1:55:53this panoramic life review where they saw either the whole of their life passing by, or they saw it in a series of snapshots running along. Now, he became intrigued by this, so he started to research it. And more people started to get into this, which is interesting because Heim was writing, I think, about the 1890s. But it was only really in the early 1970s when Raymond Moody wrote his book Life After Life that, that interest came into near death experiences. But they discovered that many people who had near death experiences report this panoramic life review. Now again, when you look into history, it's reported a lot. I mean, many famous writers have discussed it as well. You know, you hear this, I like the my life flash before my eyes. Now, the question that intrigued me about this was, what's the mechanism here? How can you see the whole of your life flash before your eyes in a few seconds? I can't recall things that happened

1:56:56to me in detail a few days ago, a few weeks ago. But people say that it's absolutely not only is it real, but it's tactile and you feel your emotions and everything else. And not only that, sometimes you feel the emotions of your effects on other people. So it is if you're attuning into and a kind of an emotional experience as well. And I started to think myself and I thought, well, how does this work? Does the brain record everything? And in my cheating, the ferryman hypothesis and my books on cheating, the ferryman, I build up this model where I actually do the new rology of this and I discuss how researchers have looked at how the brain processes memory and how the brain processes life. And it is evident from the research of people like Will de Penfield in the 1930s and 1950s and also other researchers that the human brain remembers everything. And it stores it holographically. In other words, you can't find where the memories are in the

1:57:58brain and people like Carl Pribrum and Carl Lashley were people who worked on this for years to try and find where memory was in the brain. They could never find memory, but what they could find is the places that process the memory, places like the hippocampus which sits underneath the pine, underneath the temple lobes of the brain. So this is almost like the receiver of all the information about your whole life, but it's blocked in some way. We can't get to it, but some people can. Like for instance, there is a young lady called Becky Sharik and Becky Sharik, Rebecca Sharik, has what is known as H. Sam, which is highly superior autographical memory. It's a known phenomenon. There are about eight people that have been recorded as ever having this and she's one of them. She remembers absolutely everything in her life. Her dreams, she even remembers being in the womb. Now I interviewed her on my own podcast about two or three years ago. Now I have recorded the

1:59:05interview, the interviews on my YouTube channel, but also I've taken just the section for people to watch. Believe me, you need to watch this. I'm interviewing her and when I was doing my interviews, I used to do my interviews with my associate, Sarah James. Sarah's daughter is heavily into Harry Potter books and she has all the Harry Potter books in her home nearby about 20 miles away from here. I knew that Becky Sharik also liked the Harry Potter books, so I decided on a live interview to possibly compromise her. So I said to her, Becky, you like Harry Potter, don't you? She said, yes, read all the books and I said, okay, fine. And you say you remember everything you've ever experienced. Yes. So I then said to Sarah, Sarah, can you get your collection of Harry Potter books? Can you pick one of the volumes at random? Can you then pick a page at random and pick a paragraph at random off that page and start reading it? And I said to Becky, come in

2:00:08when you feel you can come in. She got six words in and Becky read the whole paragraph. Now that is astonishing because that effectively means that certain people, and I argue it is people who have autism, certain forms of autism which Becky has and also has and I'm sure that we'll find that with Becky, we will find this also experience something called Temple Lowe epilepsy because I believe that Temple Lowe epileptics and people with autism, aspergers, syndrome and various other aspects of this, the doors of perception are wider open and they can access the memories that are stored holographically which the brain can process. And I believe it's these memories that are drawn up at the point of death and it is these memories that somebody experiences when they have a panoramic life review. Now the reason it's super fast

2:01:08is because it's a near death experience, not a real death experience. I argue in a real death experience it's literally a minute by minute recreation of your life. And I'll give an example from a movie and I always say to people, check this out if you have the DVD of Vanilla Sky, the Cameron Crow movie with Tom Cruise. Do you remember the last sequence? Remember the character David Ames, who Tom Cruise plays, is a guy who's living his life over and over again. And he's living the dream, he says this a few times. And at the end sequence, he's on the top of a skyscraper and he realizes the only way you can break out of this is to commit suicide. So he says goodbye to his lover, his girlfriend, Penelope Cruz. What runs past the Kurt Russell who's his psychologist who's supposedly controlling him, but in fact he's not real in that sense. And he jumps off the building. And as he's coming down, the Sigour Ross soundtrack comes on,

2:02:09the Icelandic ambient band. If you then freeze-frame as he starts to fall, you'll find something extraordinary. You'll find a series of still images. And the still images are still images from the life of Cameron Crow, the director. And it starts with his childhood, his teenage years, and everything. He's effectively reproducing a panoramic life review as the Tom Cruise character falls to his death. This is proof of my model, because this is exactly what I say takes place. So the question is, so I proved, I think, were the records a held? I also argue that when you're in the panoramic life review, you don't just live the panoramic life review once, you live it thousands of times. And at the end of each panoramic life review, you live another one, and another one, and another one. And I argue that this is because there are literally trillions of versions of you in what's called the multiverse, the Hugh Everett, the third

2:03:12multiverse, the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics. So if there are trillions of versions of you, there literally are a record of every single life that you can live. Every single outcome of every decision you can possibly make is encoded in the huge holographic, processed virtual reality, digital, hard drive that the universe runs on. And your brain is able to access this at death. This is such a huge concept to try and wrap up, but based on everything you said, it seems that there is a collective, imaginal or astral realm that is just beyond our perception, that contains what we would understand as the afterlife, the paranormal realm, the extra terrestrial realm, basically an ecosystem of intelligences, that we have access to through

2:04:18things like DMT and these near death experiences, and they are part of the near death experiences. But beyond that, the actual death experience is still a complete mystery, and we still have no information about anyone that has come back from the actual death experience. Was that accurate to wrap it up? Yeah, effectively it is, but I know that there would be people that will jump out and go, hold on, what about evidence of mediums? What about evidence of people who meet dead people? Was Anthony Peake's model of that? How does Anthony Peake account for past life memories when you go back and you hypnotize to a past life when you're in a 19th century French peasant? Well, I can, and I do. And what I argue is, is that we are confusing our individuated consciousness. What I argue is, is that all of us living this life now, linearly, I call Edelons,

2:05:21and effectively we are like a sprite on a computer screen that exists for one game. You know, when you play a third person computer game you create the on-screen sprite, and it runs down a car and it goes into a room and gets eaten by a monster. I argue that this is how life really works, and there are many versions of us, many Edelons, all of which don't have memories of their past life, so they only exist once. But, after the first game there is a game player who remembers the last life you had, and I call that the Daemon. And so you imagine when you play a game like Tomb Raider for example, the more times you play it, the more Edelons you lose, the more on-screen sprites die. But in their death you start to understand the environment, you start to know what's where, you start to be able to manipulate your on-screen avatar to survive for further into the game. Now the Daemon is effectively your higher self. The Daemon is your voice in your head, the Daemon is the being that warns you about things.

2:06:23The Daemon is that sense of recognition of people that come into your life. The Daemon has your, and sometimes the Daemon's memories can leech over into your memories, and that's a deja vu. So when you have a deja vu, it is effectively you remembering a previous life. When you were encountered this person or this set of circumstances, but the Daemon remembers that all the time, so the Daemon after life after life, the Daemon starts to build up a picture. So there's you and your Daemon, but then I argue that behind, and you are the Daemon, you are both. But then behind the Daemon, and scientifically this is more difficult to prove, but behind the Daemon, because I can prove the Daemon scientifically by the way, so neurologically I can prove this. But behind that is then what I call the Uber Daemon. And effectively the Uber Daemon is the collective unconscious as in young, and the Uber Daemon is the memories of every human being that's ever lived. It's the being that has experienced all humanity's lives, like the Daemon

2:07:28experiences, one person's life, this experiences everything. Now when you are hypnotized on the certain circumstances and go deeper into hypnotism, what happens is you flip into demonic consciousness, which means you remember your own life, and this is how you can regress back to times in your own past, because you're in demonic consciousness. But if you go deeper, you slip into Uber demonic consciousness, which means that suddenly you have memories of being a 19th century French peasant, or clear patra, or nearo, or anybody, you're not really reliving a past life that you've had, you're not tuning into an information field that contains all this information. And then I argue that then if you go further down again, and this is where people that take five MEODMT find themselves, is this kind of personality less ego less place, which I call the Go Demon. And the Go Demon is the equivalent in religious terms of Brahman, the orane soft. It's the

2:08:30intelligence, it's the program, it's the intelligence of everything that exists. And this comes down to an alfinish here, because this is worked perfectly. If you check out one of the most famous stand-up comedy routines in recent years, it was the famous guy Bill Hicks. And Bill Hicks turns round, and you can check this on YouTube, it's so famous. And he turns round, and he spoofing how newscasters work. And he's got this newscaster, and he's saying, oh, breaking news, young man on acid realizes that physical reality is only energy brought down to walking speed. And he's discovered that we're only one consciousness experiencing ourselves subjectively. Now over to Bill for the news. And he sticks its spot on there. Now I know it's not original to him, what's used to do it in various other people. And so many religions, this is the core belief of virtually every major religion and every esoteric group. They know this, they know

2:09:31about the Damon, they know about the Uber Damon. I'm just doing the science of this. I get approached by people from these groups all the time, saying, my God, how have you found this out? You're doing the science, what we believe for centuries. I was invited to speak at a Sufi monastery. I've been invited to speak even even people like Mormons have come to me and said, do you know you're doing the science, Scientologists, my concept is the theitan and the operating theitan. These are things we know subliminally. And we all know the correct. And that's why my work resonates with people. And that's why I need to get it out there as much as possible. In the few years, I have left on this planet before I move into my next iteration. Well, I love it. I surely resonate with it very much. And I want to thank you again for coming on and presenting it before I let you go. Remind the audience how they can pick up your books again. Yeah, okay. Fine. Yeah. What I always will always say to people is I don't necessarily want people to buy my books. That's not what I do it for. So if you go to your local library and you just

2:10:36trying to see if they've got any of my books on the shelves. And if you haven't, just go to the desk and say, I'm interested in these books by Anthony Pete. Can you get them for me? And they'll get them for you. And it's so important because the more libraries that have my books, the more people can read my books. Yeah. And that's important to me in libraries are incredibly important. If you want your own copies of the books, go into your local bookshop. You can order them from your local bookshop there all over the States. They're all over America, Australian, New Zealand. If you are a foreign language speaker, there are books in I've got books in virtually every major European language. I mean, recently two of my books have gone into Greek, for example. So the books are there if you want to read them in your own language. If you then want to buy the books off Amazon or all the major booksellers that are all there online. If you want to listen to the audible, all my books are inaudible. And with the exception of my Philip K. Dick book, all of them are me reading them. So you can hear and listen. They're on Kindle. They're on various

2:11:39other electric media as well. They're everywhere. They're even in Braille. So if you're interested in following up on my work, do so. website is antinepeak.com. I'm on Facebook as an antinepeak. I'm also on Instagram. I post regularly. I usually two or three times a day on both Instagram and Facebook. So just go on there, look at what I've got. Follow me. It's going to be difficult for you to actually become a friend on Facebook because of course, 5,000. You can't go any higher than. And I've been at that for years. But sometimes I'm able to add people. But you can still follow me. Also my YouTube channel, just look up Antinepeak YouTube, there are literally, literally now hundreds and hundreds of interviews with me out there, including this one when it goes out. But there are also interviews I've done with a lot of the people I talk about. A lot of the major researchers in the world who are researching leading edge work from scientists and neurologists to psychologists to experiences.

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