Episode 4447: Tony Katz Today Hour 3 - 03/11/26

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1:00Why, from the heartland, and the crossroads of America? It's Tony Katz today. It's not that I have been led to believe that Republicans don't want to win. It's that they have told me in no uncertain terms, whether it's members of Congress, House and Senate, whether it's the influencer chattering class of absolute fools. They have no interest in winning. They have no interest in a fight. They don't actually want to fight. They don't know how to fight. They would rather complain about forever wars than ending them. Now this is going to be seen as heresy amongst a lot of people. Some of whom are MAGA and some of whom are part of this influencer set that thinks Tucker is making a point. I put forth to you that he's not. The point is we win or we lose. And you don't win until the deal is done. Tony Katz. Tony Katz today.

2:00Good to be here. Good to be with you. Noah Rothman joins me right now from National Review. That's where you find his work. And also his latest book, which will soon be available. Blood and progress. A century of left-wing violence available on Amazon.com in May. Or wherever, find books are sold. And I was overjoyed to see your piece over at National Review last week. This regarding this very concept about winning America. And where's it there it is. America and Israel remind the world how wars are fought to victory. And what I am saying is that it very much seems when I'm hearing this talk of we could declare victory and be done right now. My gosh, we've already achieved everything. The regime is not gone. You still have missiles flying. There is still the possibility of oil being sold to China.

3:01And therefore, dollars being utilized for terrorism. You still have because the regime has not been dismantled, destroyed, obliterated, however you want to call it. The people still under threat. And even if you think that the Iranian people still under threat and not being able to live their lives, it's something you shouldn't concern yourself with. One can clearly say if President Trump said help is on its way, that's what he meant. So let's start with my original premise. Your story there at National Review are Republicans afraid of winning? I don't think Republicans are afraid of winning. I think Republicans are afraid of losing, which is a prudent consideration. However, it's a consideration that needs to be informed by more than the perspective that you've gleaned from the first 11 days of this conflict. It's a perspective that needs to incorporate the 25 years or more of war gaming that has been going on in Washington and Jerusalem and Western capitals in Europe

4:01about how this conflict would unfold. And so far, it looks nothing like what we anticipated. And it looks nothing like what we anticipated in a good way, in a way that favors the West. So just like any conflict, the enemy gets a vote. No plan survives first contact with the enemy as the Axian holds. And that's all true in this conflict. There's, we can't control every outcome. But we control a lot of outcomes. So we should start back in, let's say, 2002 to 2007 and the anticipation of what this war would look like. And the war games anticipated that Iran would activate its network of proxies, that Europeans and Americans would be targeted on the homeland in the United States and in Europe as well as our vulnerable positions in places like Iraq and Syria. Sleeperselves would activate in Latin America and perhaps cross through the border, southern border. Hezbollah would roar to life in Lebanon and rain missiles down on Israel. Crippling cyber attacks across the Western landscape,

5:03governmental and commercial interests like banks would be significantly disrupted. Individual financial transactions would be disrupted. Bombs, missiles, drones and mines would close off the Hormuz straight for the foreseeable future, creating crippling pressure on the energy markets. We were anticipated to say, within days, if not weeks of that conflict, $200, $300 a barrel for Brent Crude, to say nothing of the military campaign on the ground, which would likely necessitate a significant ground invasion, upwards of 500,000 US ground troops, maybe a million in arms on the ground. By the end of combat operations, it was anticipated that about a million people would be dead, civilians in military alike. Iranian cities would be in ruins, compelling the West to commit untold fortune to its rebuilding, because those who survive the conflict will mainly live in a state of economic devastation for years, and some perhaps will pick up arms in the form of insurgent groups to fight the invading US force, according to box.com. A civil war would follow the regime's collapse followed by a massive refugee crisis across the

6:07region, and pockets of instability would create conditions in which terrorist groups, transnational Islamist terrorist groups would thrive and project power outward. So this was the scenario. This was the scenario that was put forth by the people in the think tanks who say, well, if you do this, here's what's going to happen. Where's the scenario? Here's what you got. That was the thoughts in the early 2000s. Right, so today, according to Admiral Brad Cooper, who's in charge of this campaign, the US alone has struck 5,500 military targets. Our goal is simply to eliminate Iran's capacity to project power across its borders, and we're doing that. Iranian missile launches are down 92 percent from the outset of hostilities. Its missile stockpiles are roughly depleted. Those that aren't depleted are entombed in these underground missile cities. We have drones that orbit above those that we haven't hit, and just simply strike when they see activity. Roughly 60 percent of Iran's ballistic missile launchers have been disabled. So even if it has significant stockpiles and it still does, it doesn't have the means to launch them.

7:07The Iranian Navy is now fodder for artificial reefs. We've hit approximately 60 vessels, including every one of the most advanced class of ships, warships, the Soleimani class, they're all gone. 16 Iranian mine layers have been destroyed. We've hit 10 of Iran's 18 airfields, rendering most of them completely inoperable, hitting their runways, for example. The Iranian Air Force is a non-issue. The United States now maintains if not air supremacy or superiority, which allows us to back off these really expensive rockets, stand-off, exquisite munitions, they're called, and lean more into gravity bombs, which are dumb bombs, as you remember them from the 20th century, but all of them are fitted with JDAM kits, which allow them to be precision-guided munitions. So people who say things like we're carpet bombing U.S. cities, just don't understand, or the Iranian cities, just don't understand what our capabilities are. We just don't do that anymore, because we don't have to. In addition, just as was the case in Venezuela, Iranian technology, or rather Russian and Chinese technology,

8:11stealth radars, for example, these advanced S-300, S-400, anti-air batteries, are just simply not a factor in this fight. So we've demonstrated, we've conveyed to the capitals in Beijing and Moscow, precisely how limited their capacities are. Now, that's not to say that there aren't problems with this whole campaign, and in particular, the Iranian strategy to project force outward, to draw the gulf into this fight, that was also anticipated. In fact, it was anticipated that the Gulf states would sue for peace, or if not at least ensure their neutrality by virtue of how they were being hit. And the opposite has happened, it's emboldened the Gulf states to support this campaign tacitly or even actively, in some cases. And we're seeing some efforts by the Iranian regime to create this oil price spike that we also anticipated would be the case with the cutting off of the Strait of Hormuz. For the most part, however, the Strait of Hormuz is closed off, not because it's mined, not because missiles are flying,

9:14the short-range missiles are a significant threat, but they're not the threat that is closed off the Strait. It's largely market considerations, insurance, and what-have-you, that has put traffic to a halt, which is a financial weapon, not necessarily a connectic weapon. And we have the means to deal with that as well, but it's not what we anticipated in 2002 or 2007, what this conflict would look like. The enemy always gets a vote, but the enemy's vote is attenuated significantly in ways that I don't think is being really appreciated by lay observers of this conflict. So I appreciate a full layout of what happened there, the background's talking to Noah Rothman of National Review, and we should note that as we're discussing this, the news out today that the IEA, the International Energy Agency, 32 member countries, they're going to release 400 million barrels of oil to address the shortfall. It still doesn't change what has to happen in the Strait, the removal of mines, and possibly the escorting of ships through.

10:14We can get to that at another time. But I started this conversation with our Republicans afraid of winning. I'm going to tell you why I bring that up. Now, what you're saying is that everything they thought would be true is not true. Did not come to pass, as a matter of fact, the opposite has taken place. This was Senator Josh Hawley, Missouri on Fox News yesterday. Well, I think that he's achieved his objectives the way that he's laid him out, and you just put it beautifully, Jesse. I mean, what is there really that's left to do that we haven't already done? I mean, we have demonstrated to the world in anybody who's watching, by the way, that we have overwhelming military superiority, and we know how to use it. We have totally destroyed forever their nuclear program. We have destroyed their ballistic missiles. We have destroyed their navy. I mean, this has been a total success in whatever it's been, 11 days. And I thought the president's remarks last night that he could declare victory today,

11:16and it would be a 100% victory. I think it's true. I think we ought to say to our heroes, thank you for a job well done. This has been absolutely amazing. It's been astounding. It's been historic. And now it's time to declare victory. Well, now allow me for a moment. I have no problem with declaring victory, but if the victory is not the end of the regime, if the victory is not the end of anybody connected to the itola being in power. If the end, if victory is not the end of dollars flowing to terrorist organizations, whether whoever's left of Hamas has below or anywhere else, well, then it's not victory. If it's not the people running or deciding their leadership and running their own lives, I don't even begin to understand how it's victory, which leads me back to my initial question. Are Republicans afraid of winning because what I hear from Josh Hawley, and you could argue that I'm wrong. I'm taking it in the wrong direction. It's super possible. I think that this is a cut and run. I think this is if you're saying there are afraid to lose, not afraid to win.

12:20Being afraid to lose is an insane proposition and a foolhardy one. And that's what this sounds like. Is have we achieved the objectives? No, and premature withdrawal, no matter how much bravado you package it in, is never going to be anything less than pusillanimous. And the senator and many people in the political class, particularly on the Republican side, seem to think that they can convey messages that are cowardly in substance, but as long as they pound the table enough, you won't notice. And the senator's own terms, we have not achieved the objectives that he says we have, to obliterate the Iranian nuclear program for all time would require the collapse of this regime. But if you're going to commit yourself to a perpetual campaign of mowing the lawn, for example, anytime Iranians poke their heads up and try to reconstitute their nuclear program, we hit them, which could be considered the precedent that was set in Operation Midnight Hammer, that we hit these, we will not allow Randov nuclear capabilities anytime they try to do so,

13:21we'll hit them again. That will not be achieved if Iran maintains the capacity to develop long-range and short-range ballistic missiles. We're only now, according to Brad Cooper, beginning to strike their capacity to manufacture these weapons. And they can manufacture these weapons in droves much faster than we can manufacture interceptors. And what the administration has been laying out over the course of a week, and not sure if the senator simply isn't privy to this sort of thing, but they've been saying it for anyone willing to listen, is that the Iranian regime was developing a ballistic missile capacity that would prevent us from accessing the Middle East. It would be, it would create unacceptable costs for military intervention against a future Iranian nuclear program. And I agree that there wasn't many indications ahead of this campaign that the Iranians were reconstituting that program in ways that mirrored what it looked like before Midnight Hammer, but that's not to say that they weren't doing anything. And a crash course missile program could create the conditions in which the United

14:22States has denied access to this region, which fundamentally seeds, if we were to accept that proposition, which seeds to Iran, a nuclear program, and inevitably, nuclear breakout. So yes, that position is a very muscular way of saying that we should allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon at some point in time based on its own determination of when it would break out. So yes, that would be surrender. It's just couched in ways that are more palatable to an audience that will accept that sort of proposition as long as it's framed as America first, American muscle, America alone. Yeah, it's a very muscular overture to the to the audience. But the thing is is that we have very little indication that the audience is receptive to it. Now that is a conversation I want to get into. Do you have a little more time? Yeah. All right. Noah Rothman, nationalreview.com. Keep it here. This is Tony Katz today. The Toyota Tundra and Tacoma are built to keep going, backed by Toyota's reputation for

15:26legendary reliability. Step into a Tundra with the available iForce Max hybrid engine, delivering impressive torque and serious towing power or take a look at Tacoma with an available power liftgate. So gear goes in fast and the adventure keeps moving. Toyota trucks are built to last year after year, mile after mile. So drive one home today. Visit Toyota.com for more. Toyota, let's go places. This did not hit the radars of many people. This statement from Uni Birmingham, you know, like, what is Uni Birmingham? University of Birmingham. This is out of the UK. Tony Katz. Tony Katz today. Good to be with you. Statement on sexual abuse and organizational accountability. Oh, dear Lord, what the heck is this about? Well, this is about Hamas supporters, raping people. That's what that's what it's about. I'll read it to you.

16:27Can't make this up. I wouldn't know how to make this up. It reads statement on sexual abuse and organizational accountability. We want to begin by acknowledging the serious harm that occurred during the encampments. So far, we are aware that four former participants in BLZ spaces were subjected to serious and damaging abuse by Ahmed, codename Egypt, who is a student at UOB and was a member of BLZ at the time. Organizational failures meant that the survivor pink was excluded from spaces where the person who harmed her was later able to return. You understand that these people speak in in ways that make it impossible to follow. Let's try and understand it. Hamas rape enthusiasts, the college encampment were raping each other. Correct. Absolutely accurate. This BLZ Birmingham liberated zone, right? Like the Chaz

17:32chop. Oh, oh, they've got all their buzzwords and you got to just go through deciphering it to understand what was said. What were what were they're actually getting to? Birmingham queers for Palestine. We could stop right there and take a breath. Huh. What did Netanyahu say a queers for Palestine is like chickens for KFC? I was in the room. They're in the chamber where the house had said it gathers. I was in the house chamber when it got said. Birmingham queers for Palestine began in September, 2024 after a small group left the Birmingham liberated zone at the University of Birmingham following a pattern of sexual assault and normalization of abuse of behavior within the organization. In June, 2024, a member of BLZ, Ahmed, code name Egypt, that doesn't mean that dude was Egyptian, was credibly accused of a sexual and emotional abuse by another camper named Pink. When questioned on this decision, camp leaders claimed that

18:38Ahmed was a useful contributor to the camp and a personal friend and that the accusations were false despite his openly violent and misogynistic attitude towards Pink and other campers. Guys, the horror here is that this woman was sexually abused and everyone looked the other way. But we have seen this pattern before. We've seen this in New York. Do you remember Eric Schneiderman, former New York attorney general, four women accusing him of physical and sexual abuse in past relationships. And one of those women acknowledged that she wanted to say something about it. She wanted to go to authorities about it and other Democrats, because this guy was a Democrat, said, hey, listen, we need him. He's going to run for a higher office. We need it. You can't do that.

19:38They're all about standing up for women right until it affects their politics or their relationships or their friendships or their opportunities and then, oh, no, you got to take a stay quiet. And by the way, your skirt was probably too short. This is a known thing that happens and one can argue that the idea of, hey, you don't want to make waves happens on every side of the aisle. Make all the waves. You don't, you don't deserve to be sexually abused. But you think these chas chop, BLZ areas, you think these people are good people? They're not good people. This is abusive. I organized a lot of Tea Party events. A lot of Tea Party events I organized back in the day. Thousands of people, hundreds of people, tens of people. No one ever made a claim like this. Mostly the claim is, what, no snacks? Was it this? Because that ain't what we do.

20:39You had people killed in the chas chop, raped in there in the Birmingham Liberated Zone. Maybe the left should learn that you want to stay away from these things. Maybe you're on the wrong side with wrong bad people who want to do bad things. Maybe some people think it's culturally acceptable. Whatever is going on, we're going to notice and you need to make sure you steer your kids and your friends far away from this crap. I've got more with Noah Rothman and whether or not social media is influencing our politicians. Keep it here. It's Tony Katz today. So how much pressure does social media put on our politicians? Does, do they move the needle? Because what I'm seeing from what I will call the GLC, the grouper loser class is that it seems to be a lot, but why is anybody listening to social media, social media, real life, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. No Rothman continues with me from nationalreview.com. Be sure to check out

21:43his latest book, Blood and Progress, a century of left-wing violence available at amazon.com, wherever fine books are sold starting in May of 2026. The Quinnipiac poll you had pointed out to me earlier. I'd like for you to take a moment and go through just a little bit of what it is those findings are about this difference between where maybe MAGA is and where well some of these other people are. Yeah, so we have a lot of polling on this on this war so far and each of those polls find this conflict to be unpopular. We should, we should be honest about that at the outset. And I'm sympathetic to why the president and this administration did not enlist the American people in what is a national project. It did not solicit their support and it did not prep them for the for the sacrifices that they would have to make in order to ensure an outcome that the American people, according to polling again, have welcomed for the better part of two generations, which is the collapse of this regime. The American public in polling, a poll after poll recognizes Iran

22:47is a threat to the United States. And as long as the war is short according to CBS news polling within weeks, for example, it's a 70% proposition popularity. What the American people don't know is how long this is going to go and what the objectives are and how much is going to be asked of them. And the president didn't trust the American people to put that to them. So I sympathize with those who think that this has not been a very clearly outlined conflict. And they don't know what's what's expected of us. And I don't know where this is going to end. And that trepidation, that uncertainty is leading to trepidation. I mean, even Joe Biden at the outset of the Russian invasion of Ukraine spoke to the American public and said, listen, gas prices are going to go up. And the president should have said that. However, there is an indication, there are many indications from those who court the internet as though it's a constituency to be wooed, that they seem to think that MAGA as a political entity is up for grabs that it can be manipulated and perhaps even co-opted. It can't. MAGA is the president's creation. It does whatever he says is good for us

23:54for good for him. And they back it wholeheartedly. They have seen the outset of this presidency in 2016, 2017. And they continue to do so. And you can cite, for example, NBC News is polling, which has found that 89% of Democrats are opposed to these strikes, but 77% of Republicans support them, whereas including 90% of self-described MAGA Republicans. This is, you know, they're on the outline. They're not with the majority of the public, 54% of whom in that poll do not favor this conflict. But the MAGA right and the GOP broadly does. And they do because the president is behind it. And they say that they should be behind it. It's as simple as that. And Republicans and influencer types who seem to think that there is a different MAGA out there that they can channel. There may be talking to 10% at most of this population of pro-Trump voters who are trepidatious about this conflict and are willing to tell pollsters that they don't support the president. That's, you're going to be part of maybe they're just not giving pollsters the

24:58satisfaction of telling them that they don't support the president having voted for him in 2024. That's a real possibility. But how many does that constitute as a percentage, a couple of percent, five, maybe? It's generally not a phenomenon that accounts for a really significant portion of public opinion. So, so if we're asking ourselves, you know, you make a very solid point, one that I agree with, that social media is not real life. And that in real life, you see a very different approach here. But you're the ever popular, the approach is based on time. That's a newer phenomenon. I don't think if we were to take a look at post-Prol Harbor, American saying, well, I'm in favor of taking out the Imperial Japanese, but only if it takes three months, but it takes more than three months. I don't know about that, although I'm sure there were some people who said those kinds of things. So, the idea of making the case to America is something

26:01that I agree with. And the president has been very bad at this, did a bad job with the economy on this conversation, a bad job with tariffs, and what they would could mean better down the road for trade deals is that and the other did not sell that well. They have not sold it well. It's the idea that he says it, everybody buys in and that's it. And that's not the way the world works. But if MAGA is behind him, 90% as you discuss it, which is an overwhelming large number, then how does one describe the people who are part of the chattering classes in this social media world that get all these clicks and all these all this attention? Is this the grouper loser class or the GLC? What is this group of people? This now begins to verge on entertainment analysis, because we're talking about audience share, which I cannot adjudicate and don't have real from grasp on. But that's what's animating this is, and you hear them talk about it all the time, is they measure themselves relative to

27:03the audience of their competitors in the podcast space. As though that matters, as though that is reflective of political dynamics in America or of geopolitical outcomes on the world stage, but this is the present through which they view the world. And again, the opacity of these statistics makes them difficult to analyze. But when you talk about the quote unquote grouper class, plenty of information out there and you can go find it yourself about the extent to which these numbers are inflated by foreign entities, particular foreign assets that are attracted to this kind of content, and also that are deliberately inflating the numbers of, for example, Nick Fuentes and his podcast in order to destabilize the American landscape, discourse landscape, and promote the notion that anti-regime, anti-administration sentiment and anti-semitism in particular are on the rise, and in fact, really relevant political forces in the United States. And I just don't find a ton

28:04of evidence for that on the ground. It's mostly anecdotal. It is supported, however, by pulling like what we've recently discussed. So the burden of evidence is really on the podcast types, who contend that they're speaking for a silent majority of the public. We just don't see that in the numbers, and I'm going to need more data from them to support that contention if they're interested in mustering it, which they're not. We don't deny that they have numbers. You're making the argument of do the numbers translate into anything of legitimacy in the political square. But politics downstream of culture, if you have members of Congress who are watching these social media nutters, and by the way, I'm very disparaging. They're more than welcome to have their careers, and I'm more than welcome to notice the serious issues they're in, and they could do the same about me, and the world keeps spinning. But if the Josh Hawley's, or if the name, the other member of Congress, is looking

29:05to these people, Tucker, Megan, et cetera, and saying they're the ones with the big audiences, I got to go make them happy. The Steve Bannon set Steve Bannon is now a speaker at CPAC, the conservative political action conference. Well, then that does indeed politics downstream of cultures, the late Andrew Breitbart would explain that does create an issue, and I argue that that that needs to be pushed back upon with massive levels of force. Yeah, and typically it'll be voters who do the push back. Democrats already went through this, and it would be extremely foolish for Republicans to follow their example. But think back to 2019, and the Democratic primary race in 2019, ahead of the 2020 primaries, and it was a contest between everybody, including Joe Biden to a lesser extent, although much lesser extent, was a competition to be the most woke, the most progressive, the most outlandish in support for policies that the American public would never support, and they did so knowingly because they were courting the internet as a constituency.

30:06The internet was four square behind the Green New Deal, free college for everyone, universal basic incomes for everyone, DEI as the load star of the United States, sloughing off meritocracy as a vestige rather of the enlightenment, so on and so forth. Every illegal immigrant should get drivers licenses and visas, and the border should be open. I was just a festival of self-incrimination in ways that a lot of those elements did not recover from. Defund the police is now something that you hang around Democratic candidates, like a millstone, whereas it was something that everyone endorsed in 2019. Again, with the limited exception of Joe Biden, who came from behind in South Carolina to emerge victorious in that primary contest. The far left, which is represented far left, and usually monochromatically white, we should be clear about, was attracted to that sort of thing. Whereas the majority of the Democratic Party, it's Hispanic voters, it's African-American

31:10voters, and it's older voters, were not as attracted to these ideas, and they demonstrated that they had very little purchase among even Democratic constituencies over the course of that season, that those lessons are being lost on Democrats, but apparently they're being lost on the Republicans, too, because if these Republicans who perceive of themselves as having a future in 2028 or beyond, think that the most radical position is the ascendant position. It may not be now, but in the future, it will be the position in which the political careers will rise and fall on the right. They're going to place their bets now, and those could be really bad bets, and I think Josh Holley is placing a really risky gamble on the notion that this war is ultimately a failure, and if it proceeds a pace that he can come back and say, I called it here. I said that we should be over with it here, and the fact that we were not means they didn't listen to me, so you should trust my judgment. It's a big gamble, and I'm not sure it's going to be a winning one. And so, everyone understands what you just said that Senator Josh Holley is calling this a failure.

32:17That's what I think he said on Fox. He's setting the stage to call it a failure. Correct. He can say, I said this was a victory here, and we could have had a victory and we sacrificed it. So I just take it a step further. I think in how he's couched it, we should get out now, I think he is engaging the idea of a failure. He's saying that this is the most we can do the best we can do. Let's get out before it's too late, as opposed to why would we ever think it's too late? Why don't we just do the job? It is saying that we aren't capable. That's my take of it, and that's where I think the the larger scale problem is. I'll get called a warmonger. It doesn't matter what I'm called. What matters is is that I want to finish the job and then go home. So I don't have to come back to this 18 months from now or three years from now or four years from now or four days from now. And I think that we have a serious issue that if we have Republicans who are taking their cues from social media, we can't actually engage any level of victory because I again, I said

33:20afraid of winning. I don't think that's what they want. I put I say that they would rather take this loss by a thousand cuts, this death by a thousand cuts than deliver one punch to stop those people from cutting us. And I think it's a real philosophical breakdown in these people that somehow this concept of forever wars means just take punches. We're big enough. We can handle it. It's possible. On the upside, however, I'm reasonably sure that Senator Holly, at least, will abandon this position if the campaign looks like a success moving forward. There's no hope for Rand Paul. He's a true believer. But I don't think Josh Holly really genuinely believes what he's saying. He's trying to seek political advantage and he'll amend his position in order to find political advantage in the conditions that he doesn't anticipate if there's some sort of a much more robust victory, much more an ambiguous victory in the near future. Josh Holly will take credit for that too. And nobody will remember the comments that were made here, unfortunately,

34:22because there should be accountability for them. But he could end up being pressure. We should say that the pressure on the oil market is real. I don't think it's kinetic. I don't think it's military. I think it's mostly market dynamics, but it's real. And it's having a profound impact on the thinking of the political class in Washington, if not the war planners and those in the National Security Council. And you never know how that could unfold. There could be a lot of weak splines in Washington after a week. So Josh Holly may be a leading indicator and not a lagging one. No, Rothman National Review dot com, the new book, Blood and Progress, a century of left wing violence available at Amazon dot com in May. You should get your pre orders in right now. No, I appreciate you taking the time to be with us. More is coming up. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. The Toyota Tundra and Tacoma are built to keep going, blending rugged muscle with precision engineering, all supported by Toyota's time-tested legacy of dependability. Step into a Tundra and feel the unyielding capability. With the available iForce Max engine,

35:27Tundra puts out impressive power, torque and towing performance. And the roomy high-tech cabin keeps you connected on the go or take a look at Tacoma made for drivers who push past the path, agile, tough and relentless with available features like crawl control, a powered rear window portable JBL speaker and a power lift gate. So gear goes in fast and the adventure keeps moving that Tacoma and Tundra are engineered to endure season after season, mile after mile. So drive one home today. Visit toyota.com for deals and local inventory or stop by your Toyota dealer to find out more Toyota. Let's go places. And things continue to rage on in Iran. The US has wiped out an entire class of Iranian warships, Admiral Cooper, U.S. Central Command, Commander, Admiral Cooper, saying that American forces have taken out the last four of Soleimani class warships.

36:28That's an entire class of warships out of the fight. Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, good to be with you. We are hitting well into Iran and the U.S. is now warning Iranians to flee the ports. You may want to leave. We are here. The Iranian regime is using civilian ports along the streets of Wormuz to conduct military operations that threaten international shipping. So the warning is you may want to leave because we're about to handle this, son. So I argued that we need to put assets into the straits and engage in protection that way and escort these oil tankers through what is being argued I would take as a response from U.S. Central Command is we're just going to take these people out where they are. If they're on in the ports, we're just going to take out the ports and they're not going to be able to move a maneuver. But by saying this, isn't that giving warning or do you already have a plan for that? And I want to be a reminder to myself and to others as

37:34I go over and I discuss what's going on and how we're engaging and these people who seem to not want to go forward and finish the job and they want to early out. I have stated in public and in private and events that the misdirection of this Pentagon has been exceptional. It's a pleasure to have adults back in the room. It's exactly the term I've used and they have been able to engage misdirection to say we're going to do this and then they did that. So I'll take everything as a little bit step back and see what results. I just want us to finish the job and end the regime and make American life safer. The end. Find everything at TonyCax.com. Tomorrow everyone take care. The all new 2026 Toyota RAV4 is here building on everything drivers know and love about Toyota

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