Dr Z Put's Confidence Way Over Conceit The Confident Mind From Dr Nate Zinsser

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1:02And that is is that there is a spiritual energy within each and every one of us. But what are you willing to do with it? My choice is to share it. What a wonderful contribution to the world. Thank you and keep doing it. Well, look at what you were doing because I mean, when you sit there and you write a book called The Confident Mind, a battle tested guide to an unshakable performance. I mean, I got to be honest, when I came across this, I chuckled as a creative mind because it was like, oh my god, this guy gets it. It is not conceit. It is having the confidence to be able to be there with your mind to say, we're going to go there and we're going to win. Yes, indeed. And I'm so glad you distinguish confidence from conceit. It is a common problem. It's the misconception that if I think confidently, I'm going to come across as a conceited, arrogant, unlikable, so and so.

2:03It is a misconception that hangs up a lot of people. So true. But I have been known no, Dr. that when people start calling me conceiting stuff, I'll take off my shoes and say, right, you start wearing them. But they wake up when I do something like that because I'm confident that, okay, I'm going to wake up a sleeping soul. Very, very true. I like that analogy of sleeping soul. So now, how is it that you gained the confidence to bring out a book like The Confident Mind? I mean, because there's that little bit of a creative mind inside of you. Love's fear. Love's doubt. Love's shame. It lives off that energy. But you're showing us. There's another way. I had to acknowledge the fact that I was lying to myself. Any time that I thought, well, you know, my professional writing and my work with cadets at West Point and, you know, a few other select professional

3:10athletes, that that work really doesn't have wide application and their whole not a lot of people are going to really be interested in what I have to say. That was a lie I told myself, okay? And when I finally looked at the, you know, the body of work that I had accumulated up to that point and the constructive feedback that I had received on that body of work, I finally said, I don't need to lie to myself anymore. What I have to say in the way I say it, really has wide application for lots and lots of people. And I came to that, I came to that conclusion, oh, 10 years ago, as I think about it now. And we're talking about, you know, 2015, 2014, I really had to make that distinction for myself. And then

4:16I started laboring on this book and it finally saw the light of the day in, you know, a few years back. And here we are publicizing it again because it seems to have hit a nerve with a lot of people. Yeah, because what you're just talking about with you said 2014, 2015, those were the days before the lockdown where we became uncertain in life. And what is the thing you speak about? We've got to get back to that place of certainty. Correct, correct. My definition of confidence is simply a sense of certainty about yourself that allows you to execute or believe in the world more or less unconsciously, naturally, intuitively. We have that as you put it creative spark within us. Our nervous systems are remarkable. If we want to hit a tennis ball properly, we're much better just looking at the ball and swinging the

5:19racket than thinking about, okay, have I positioned my feet well? Have I had to rack it back far enough? Do I have the correct angle in my elbow and my swiveling, swiveling my hips properly? And my following through, we tend to think that in order to execute, well, we have to be very analytical and observational and self-critical of ourselves. And that is a myth, a certain degree of analysis and judgment and criticism is useful in the learning process. But you can't overdo it and bring that to the competitive or performance arena. That will just tie you up and not. God, you sound like my mom. I mean, I mean, really because my mother, she knew I wanted to be a professional bowler and it was all about the steps, the timing, the pivot. It was all about the sliding, getting up to that foul line

6:19too early, exactly everything you're talking about. And she goes, there's more to it than that. And so, where were you during my teenage days when I wanted to be a professional bowler, sir, because I really needed you to get me there? If I had a nickel arrow for everybody who has, who has made the comment, boy, I wish I had had this back in high school. I wish I had had this when I was a university athlete. I wish I had had this when I was, you know, doing my cardiac surgery residency. I wish I had this stuff there. Okay, yeah, I wish I had a nickel for all of those moments, Sarah. Please do not move. There's more with Dr. Z coming up next. The Toyota Tundra and Tacoma are built to keep going, blending rugged muscle with precision engineering, all supported by Toyota's time-tested legacy of dependability. Step into a Tundra and feel the unyielding capability with the available I force max engine. Tundra puts out impressive power

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8:25rather than take a very careful inventory of their successes, of their capabilities that created those successes. And then decide, well, this is the truth about me. I accomplished that and that and that and that because I brought this quality and this quality and this quality and this quality. Maybe that tells me that I have reasons to be certain about myself when I am challenged next with a algebra test sales presentation or a third and eight in a football game. Yeah, because you know that third and eight, I can't imagine what's going on in that field and to be that quarterback more importantly, to be that person who's just going to hike the ball. If that timing is off, you're fried. And then what was the quote that I just heard this past week?

9:28It was too the quarterback of New York. And they said that don't forget that what you do during the playoffs, your fans will never forget. And I thought that's too much pressure, man. This is true. The fans won't forget it until you perform at a higher level and then the fickle fans are all going to fall in love with you. So you've got to separate your sense of yourself from the adulation of the fan base because the fans are water fickle. Okay. This was really true for my long-term client Eli Manning of the New York Giants. Yeah. Okay. He, you know, he was on the cover of the New York Times magazine back during his rookie year, you know, because he was drafted very high. He comes from a football family of royalty.

10:34The pressure on that fella is immense. And the important lesson that he learned was to be very comfortable in his own skin. He is. Whether whether people were, you know, praising him or whether people were crucifying him. Yeah. See, well, then I need to thank you for doing that to him because I love him more today than I did on that football field. And it's not because I'm a Carolina Panther fan. It's just that he is not afraid to be himself and to laugh at himself. That's what I love about him. Indeed. Indeed. His nickname amongst his teammates was EZE. He, you know, he never got super, super too high and he never got too low. He was a steady presence in the huddle. And that's kind of important, you know, at that level of performance.

11:36When you're showing somebody that there is a difference between conceit and confidence, does it involve daily writing only because I've been a daily writer since July of 1994? And I know how important that writing has been to me. Why? I guess I don't understand why somebody else would not want to also jump on that ship. Um, daily writing, daily reflection. Yeah. It is a marvelous process. I urge people to conduct a daily reflection of their work day or their sport practice or the lesson that they might take. Conduct a daily reflection. Where did I work hard? What little things did I get right? What am I making progress and what am I getting better at? And that's a five-minute reflection. And I urge people to write that stuff out on a blank piece of

12:37paper or on a PDF that I provide for them so that there is a tangible record of, yeah, I put the work in. Yeah. I got this right. Yeah. I'm getting better at factoring a polynomial equation or whatever the heck, right? And just the awareness of that that's in front of you in hard copy is very valuable. And I'll say just a step further on that there is some evidence to suggest that when you write it out with a pen and paper as opposed to keyboarding it into a document. Thank you, thank you. You actually, you create a more neurobiologically complex task. Writing it with your fingers involves more nerves, more muscles, henceforth, more of your nervous system, more of your

13:37brain power. It has a more powerful effect on you, writing it out long hand as opposed to tap, tap, tap, tap, tap on a keyboard. Yep. One of the things I also try to take these people to and I'm sure that you do it as well is that if because when you write it down, it's the interpretation of the moment you felt when you wrote it, but now you're taking on the dear future reader. So I'm inviting people to actually grab their digital phones and with the recording device, record their voice. That's pitch volume and tone. And if you lie into that phone, you're going to tell that future self I lied when I was saying this. You're going to hear your voice tell your story of healing. Yep. Absolutely true. The stories that we tell ourselves about ourselves are so meaningful and but unfortunately they are generally underutilized and misunderstood. The stories you tell yourself about yourself either open up doorways for development and improvement or they

14:43put walls around you and keep you right where you're at. Dr. How do you deal with those moments with you being so close to the sports heroes and business leaders? We all have to face that I used to be moment. I mean, when a sports hero then becomes just a regular person out there on a real street, they used to be. How do they break free from being a used to be? By doing a little bit of reflection on what enabled my success in my sports life or my previous job, what qualities did I show there? What qualities did I develop there? And where can I apply those same qualities now? Okay. I may not be a professional football player anymore, but I am still a observant, physically active, curious individual. What other things that

15:48help you succeed there? How can you use them today? And just as you sit goals and dreams for your sports success, what goals, what dreams create some of that same excitement for you now? You're not going to take the field with 80,000 people cheering anymore on Sunday after New Orleans, but maybe you want to build a business that will bring that some of that same excitement. Maybe you want a Claremont Everest. I don't know, okay? It's not up to me to think about what you want. It's up to you to think about what gives you goosebumps. What are the what things? What experiences might take your breath away and give you that same sense of, oh wow, this is awesome. Are you willing to look at those possibilities and then pursue them just like you decided at

16:55some point, hey, I'm going to dedicate myself to run, to lift, to practice, to study so that I can get a division one athletic opportunity. See, willing to be that same dream now? You know, there's so many people, Dr. Nate, that probably said, I wish I had Dr. Nate in a something I could put in my in my back pocket and keep with me at all times. And I think you have finally done it with this book, the confident mind, because I mean, you have no idea how many times I keep going back to this dang book, because it's like, okay, what would he do? What would he do? And God, when you reach that level, please be confident in your heart that you're reaching non-sports people with this book. Yes, indeed. Thank you. I am very, very proud of that. What's the next step? Are you going on tour? Do you have a podcast that we want to talk about? Are you going to do a specialty show on Hulu or Netflix where you're going to talk down breaking down the actual sports hero to the humanism stage? Well, there are a number of ideas in the works,

18:00a video-based instructional program that I think a lot of people might find interesting. There is also in development, basically a Dr. Z TV series. Well, yeah, we're a somewhat fictionalized Dr. Z with a somewhat fictionalized support team. Helps a wide array of clients and folks experience better lives in every episode. Dr. Z is with an airline pilot or a neurosurgeon or the kicker of a football team who's been choking, but it's got a big one coming up, you know? So they're all kinds of, well, I should say, there are a few next step ideas in gestation right now, but I am very busy

19:08fielding requests from people all over the world, Australia, United Kingdom, the first French horn seat in the National Philharmonic Orchestra of Estonia. I'm not making this up. These are the people who helped me. There are people from all over the world that are seeking a little bit of advisement and I'm, you know, happy to work in that capacity. Wow, and I'm going to put it this way. He says in confidence because conceit would have stopped him 30 seconds ago. I love you, man, and you've got to come back to this show, Dr. Z. I'm always happy to come back and hang with you. I know this has been a joy. Well, you be brilliant today, okay? You got my word on that. You do the same. Thank you, sir.