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Dane Wigington. Welcome to the other side of midnight. Dane is a lead researcher, one of the world's largest independent investigations into climate modification operations. Is the background in energy engineering, solar power, wildlife and forest resilience research, spent more than two decades documenting aerosol spraying, ionosphere heaters, cloud seating, RF weather modulation and the expanding infrastructure of atmospheric intervention. A lot of very big words for people screwing around with our climate. Dane, welcome to the show. Thank you very much to W ABC for continuing to address this issue that many are finally waking up to but not fast enough. The good news for you and me is we're on many many many radio stations in addition to W ABC. We're on KM O'X and St. Louis WGN in Chicago.
Other giant radio stations talk 910 in Detroit. You're heard throughout America right now and I agree with you. It's a very important thing to discuss because the biggest obstacle you have in discussing atmospheric interference by humans is convincing most people that it actually is happening because there's no press release coming out saying yes we are interfering with the atmosphere no need to worry. There's no official statement. There's nothing from NASA, the federal government, the Canadian government, nobody is saying yes this is actually going those contrails. No that's not exhaust from jets. That's actual chemicals affecting our atmosphere, our crops, how well we breathe. Explain to us why you know it's true that there's endless tampering with our atmosphere. Where would I start? We have mountains of data, government documents, presidential documents. We do and you're watching or took a national ocean economic and atmospheric administration flowing lab with top scientists in it from Rincere Polytechnic to sample what heavy aircraft remaining on our atmosphere found exactly what we knew we would find during elements starting with aluminum.
Nanoparticles that bio will be able free form of aluminum which doesn't exist naturally in nature. The primary element name in climate is your in patents we've done a virtually hundreds and hundreds of lab test across the country many others around the world. We did 500 lab test with University of Minnesota confirming these elements in our precipitation in the rain. It's in everything else. And my God it is truly perplexing to me that people can't look at the skies and know something is radically radically wrong. It's exactly what's stated by the climate science community what they want to do but jets in the sky display particles that will light out the sky, filter out the hydrological cycle, leave trails in every direction they describe everything we see. But then they say we're not seeing what we're saying and they lie all the way along. I know Harp was mentioned before I think before the break happened and some things we didn't discuss last time on Harp. The type of slide of hand that goes on they can't afford these issues to come to light can they that would be the pitchforks and torches moment. The liability issues would be absolutely incalculable. It would overturn the entire paradigm.
So we're given slide of hand for example with Harp as people begin to wake up to that and and 2014 they pretended they were going to take it down and they said that's proof that this is not a weapon of mass destruction look we're going to tear it down. We said it's you and you want that or never going to happen they're never going to touch that facility they never did they just did a slide of hand change of management and pretended I'm looking at an NPR story right now from from 2014 buy buy to the home of the favorite internet conspiracy theory. Like Harp was going to go away and that proved it was a conspiracy theory no never went anywhere so I'm saying that it's getting ludicrous at this point. It's getting ludicrous we just had did you see Robert F Kennedy last week at an event gave his same dog and pony go show response of we're going to look into quote Kim trails did you see that. I saw he said we're going to look into Kim trails that was about all he said that is exactly right. That is all he said and he knows not to use that term he knows that I've had Robert dinner view me for an hour I've had to fairly extensive off their conversations with him at different points he knows that that is the instant marginalization term and that's why he's using it just like Lee's Eldon head of EPA pretended we're going to be very transparent and we're going to look into this oh there's a website just condensation nothing to see here move along it's absolutely ludicrous.
Absolutely ludicrous the people ignore their sense of reason and logic this today over in the California we had ovals expatterns totally out of any commercial air quarter routes sky completely past plastered total covered sky with aerosols and and we're told this is nothing it's becoming ludicrous this issue is going to come to light and a whole lot of people are going to have a whole lot of explaining to do at that point. All right, Dane how is it going to come to light and when we when we look at the sky let me put this in perspective because you look at the sky you study this data all day every day you are in the best sense and I thank you for this obsessed with this. However, you and I are at the moment also talking to people who have to pick up their kid at school we have to get that project done winters coming all the furnaces making noise there's a strange sound underneath the hood of the car there are so many things that day to day we deal with all cheese I can't believe how much that gallon of milk costs and I really can't believe how much that gallon of gas costs there are many many distractions from a very important.
Phenomena that needs our attention but we have a lot of distractions when we look at the sky what should what should I look at for my 90 seconds that I get to look at the sky and then what positive actions can I take to support your initiatives. First those are all exceptionally important and accurate points you bring up that's very very true and I do recognize that I think it's going to be a bigger distraction when people go to the market and find food sales empty and we are hurtling toward that point and I'm not paying that all around the neck of climate engineering although a great deal of it in fact far more than people would imagine belongs the blame belongs in that arena. And when there's not enough to eat there's going to be a whole lot more people paying attention because we know these elements are virtually sterilizing soils that are already radically depleted by all the aluminum toxic to all life forms period killing soil micro biome it's.
Effective root systems we have very good study to prove that causes nutrient uptake shut down and the lies were fed also in this effects people's ability to buy food which they won't have any option but to pay attention to were told the ozone layer is getting better we're told that every year it's getting better better better but this year we just had a headline home hold blows in the ozone layer over Antarctica we know it's it's radically sending everywhere because we hired probably the world's top. Ozone or UV metering expert to bite him with state of the art equipment we're getting UVC in the surface it's a blatant glaring line they're not even me doing for you we see they don't even look for how can you dispose of it and I'm looking for people should feel the sun shearing their skin it's incredibly hot it's bring the camera in the office trees it's scorching crowns of trees it's mind-numbing that people can ignore that and we just we just got articles this week. From UK Guardian planetary boundaries necessary for flourishing of life have been massively breached scientists weren't we think it's you want to do one.
The state of the climate environment is not as bad as we're being told even by people like Al Gore it's way worse way worse and we see that every week now scientists saying oh my god it's way worse than we thought so now they're admitting and they're doing this so they don't panic to heard. And you and you used to keep that in the or that the deceptive division going by engineering snowstorms and New Orleans was raining in the Arctic literally but we would argue this article reports seven of the nine primary planetary life systems have been breached we would argue that's not true all mine have been radically breached but only to they say have not been breached is the ozone layer deterioration and atmospheric aerosol loading both colossal lies. Yeah. Yeah. Yep good. Dan Wigenton a scientist on the atmosphere you mentioned there are nine what did you say nine what. They're called planetary boundaries and you're just a bunch of.
Planetary planetary planetary boundaries bore me could you list the nine planetary boundaries and you're saying they've all been breached what are they. There's we have the ozone layers one we have the god that the stratophiric ozone depletion atmospheric aerosol loading we have the. I didn't mean to stump you I didn't mean to stump you I figured that these all mine boundaries I don't I don't that's okay that's right but you're saying that they've all been breached and this puts us in great danger I'm going to ask one more stupid. Question they put us in great danger of what. Omnisside planetary omnisside how does a planet continue if the primary life support pillars have all been breached here we go okay. Danger zone planetary boundaries one climate change to change in biosphere integrity is a lot of other lines we can fill in that one land system change freshwater change modifications of bio chemical flows introduction of novel entities there's a lot of other blanks I can go under that.
Ocean that is a set of occasion that's the seventh that was just added what they're omitting ozone depletion and atmospheric aerosol loading which is absolute nonsense we would we have so we have so many aerosol in the atmosphere now that's for the term global dimming came from and that's what brought me into the issue well because. I have an off-grid home was the cover article the world's largest real energy magazine and I was losing 50% of my solar take. From whatever these aircraft for the meeting that can't be just called compensation or jet exhaust and when I began to test my precipitation is you may have discussed earlier. Earlier at earlier exchange I didn't want to find you during elements and it's starting with aluminum and I did I continue to test I continue your research for 18 months before I spoke out about any of this but by my final test there was about 30 450 parts per billion of aluminum in my rain and again that they're simply wine and we know this I've been in high level e p meetings in sacrile no five top California e p official officials meeting range by congressional left told the entire system is rig told my face that they test for combustion
particular only generally p m pin which is a bolder compared to an animal particle so the rest goes completely unreported and completely under the radar completely rigged system because they cannot afford people to wake up to what's happening in our sky. Dane Wigington if you'd like to chat with him that would be great the phone numbers eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two time table you say that these these nine veils of safety have all been breached that our atmosphere is deteriorating at a remarkable rate. Dane do you have a timetable is to when you and I are going to feel this on a daily basis when you and I are going to be in trouble when you and I are going to have to live in led lined rooms. We're seeing crop collapse here fisheries collapse here and I can tell you what the polar scientists are saying right now I know a couple of them that don't have the courage to admit to this issue no they know about it they don't want to lose their paycheck their pension their grants.
But the polar scientists the top polar scientists because of the feedback loops that have been triggered about fifty fifty feedback loops which means once triggered it feeds on itself and we're in a runaway scenario we are right now so the polar scientists right now are stating that we could see the sixth to eighth degree see rise in global temperatures by the end of this decade if that happens we're done and they've stated that on the record that by the end of this decade we could face. Near planetary extinction and certainly the end of the human race and now it's interesting while we just saw the AI I'm sure you've been following that that some of the top A people as stated by. By the end of this decade we could have serious AI problems right so now we have now we know that AI and we discovered this a geo and you want to or weekly global or new broadcast political not political and we know advertisements but we know AI is involved with the end of the day. So it's truly converging cataclysm at this point and what people don't understand and this is key Einstein made mention of this as a human fault the inability to understand the exponential equation and we are most definitely in one right now.
Define that for me because I was in English made sure. So we have feedback loops that increase the rate of change many deviations from normal rate of changes is incalculable and we're there so let me give a big to big feedback loops the planets albedo is being lost it's reflectivity which allows it to retain its energy balance being lost radically fast the planets natural cloud production processes are deteriorating rapidly most. Most rapidly in equatorial zones but it's spreading north now in south. And that loss of albedo the reflectivity means that the planets energy balance has been completely skewed the energy build up on the planet right now is the thermal energy equivalent of about 14 Hiroshima bombs per second that means the heat I know you know this but for listeners the heat contained 14 Hiroshima bombs per second is building up the planet much of that has gone to the ocean.
So the lit is blowing off that kettle now as we have the quote Godzilla and he knew he was shaping up and we have the polar caps completely imploding we're very near perhaps a dual B O E dual blotion event that means the polar ice is lost that reflectivity is lost that means 90% of the sun is incoming thermal energy is absorbed by the dark ocean as opposed to reflected by the white ice that's a feedback loop the more ice that's lost the more heat builds up the faster the ice is. That's exactly what's happening second major feedback loop methane hydrating class rate. Explosions in about 1100 new seats have been just just been discovered off the east coast of the U.S. those are new headlines but we know the falling and releasing of large sea floor methane deposits have been happening for decades that's the Bermuda Triangle scenario. We know what's sinking the ships intact because when these large methane fields release they tend to release in their entirety this call of methane aerates the water called completely if there's a surface vessel anywhere in that region has no buoyancy goes to the bottom intact methane then migrates into the atmosphere begins to spread out and cover the planet like a layer of glass.
Methane over a 10-year time horizon you don't hear this talked about much it's 120 times more effective a trapping heat than CO2 and what do you hear the science community saying they say oh it's 20 times more potent that sounds bad that is bad but that's over 100-year time horizon we don't have 100 years. So again the gravity of what's unfolding is not being grasped by almost anyone at this point. Welcome Gary to the other side of midnight 808489222 we're talking with Dane Wigington scientist expert on atmospheric deterioration and the timeline for the end of the planet Gary welcome. Thank you great job great job love listening to you. Dane my question would be it seems like so many things are turning into the government has to the scientists know we went through the algorithm and now what you're telling me my initial reaction is so who's going to get real.
What do you do about this stuff and why aren't they just putting a plan together to get so involved with like space companies to get a static out of your organized way. Well I would think Gary that would be to assume that those in power are somehow benevolent and I would argue that is not the case they have one concern that's the preservation of their own power even if they only have ashes to rule over and we know that the psychoanalysis we're not guessing. Power is an addiction perhaps the most intense addiction and literally from the psychoanalysis manual of those in positions of power the vast majority have a common trait in that trait of this a near total lack of comprehension as to the consequences of the actions even to themselves that's why they detonate 2400 nuclear bombs which contaminated the whole planet that's why they detonated hydrogen bombs the magnetosphere the project starfish prime and project fish bowl they thought could collapse the entire act of the planet. But they did it anyway we're not dealing with sanity it's a headless heartless solace cancer does a cancer intend to kill its host no in intense to proliferate unchecked host eventually dies and we're in that category and sadly the vast majority of the population because those in power couldn't do what they do without the active or passive support of the majority population and we have the majority of population especially in first world nations they're all too happy to go along with the carbon fuel carnival ignore climate engineering.
A. K. A weather chemical biological warfare raging in our skies they don't want to know they don't want to know they'd rather keep their heads in the sand to the moment of impact and I would argue that's the pretty poor position especially for a parent that claims to care about their posterity. Dan Wigington is the founder and lead researcher for geoengineering watch dot org one of the world's largest independent investigations into climate modification operations. Now he is a background in energy engineering solar power wildlife and forest resilience research he has spent more than two decades documenting aerosol spraying ionospheric heaters cloud seating RF weather moderate mod mod mod modulation I was doing so well RF weather modulation and the expanding infrastructure of atmospheric intervention. He's a busy and an important guy Dane the first time I experienced atmospheric tampering that I was I was a very young kid and I'm like this isn't right this is just wrong what they're doing do you know about the DDT spraying at the Jersey shore year after year do you know about that.
I know a bit about the D. T. scenario in general yeah I mean maybe it's in the videos of them spraying kids at public pools and and the monitor was D. T. Good for you and me well kids are. We would sit many families would sit on picnic tables in parks as they were spraying DDT while they were eating now fortunately I was blessed with a father who had been a major in biology and who had worked in the Merck lab and the Bristol Myers labs and worked at Bell telephone laboratories he he the minute that was coming we went inside we shut the window. We were going to be out there he knew but most people sat outside and viewed it as a great public service that they were being sprayed with DDT. Isn't that shocking. Yeah. Two things to add to that to show the lack of public for too many people lack of any sense of self survival.
I saw an experiment and I have a petition on the D. D. D. Part 2 but I saw an experiment where there were 30 people 29 of which knew it was an experiment one that didn't they had a meeting in a conference room in a hotel they turned the smoke alarms on they're all looking at their computers doing whatever they're doing smoke alarms on they start pouring smoke into the room the one person that didn't know is an experiment stood up obviously anybody that wants to survive would probably stand up and leave the room right but nobody else flinched nobody she kept looking around. Nobody moves you can actually sat back down in room full of smoke with a fire alarm going if we did nothing was wrong that's really shocking behavior alarming behavior and as far as the DDT goes we know they got rid of a lot of it. There's a DDT dump that the government covertly established that actually there's 18 we know of now but off the coast of the LA the LA Harbor in the Catalina Channel half a million barrels of DDT on the sea floor they were dumping it at night.
The course of about two decades now there they found a total of 18 sites DDT dump sites and these barrels of course are serious and releasing and I found that out even in the late 80s by talking to a state biologist I was I spent a lot of time diving I've been diving since I was 14 channel islands. It's in the Catalina Channel on the other side of it and what I thought was pristine regions and he told me off the record don't eat those fish this is in the 80s so I knew something was wrong we waited looked and searched and finally a biologist with some courage that had an underwater vehicle went down there and found what they knew was there. Dan Wigington a scientist explaining our future atmospheric pollution atmospheric tampering as of today in your opinion. How much weather tampering is taking place by the United States or other countries is this chronic something that's always taking place in China they always engineering their weather do we always engineer our weather or is it spotty are we really not that good at it.
Well not that good at it would depend on the objective we have no natural weather there's zero natural weather at this point we hold on hold on. Say that again nice and slow. There is no natural weather of planet earth at this point it is so completely derailed we look at upper level wind current patterns it looks like a foreign planet now I mean there's no coherence to anything and people are familiar with the butterfly effect butterfly lapses wings of Brazil tornado happens to Kansas we're talking about so many pushing and pulling on this equation at this point and even for the planet earth. And even former intergovernmental cooperation in these programs which you have to have you can't just you and your own country without affecting the entire planet so let's all just put our fingers in the pie and that's what they did we have us in a document 800 pages on posted a geo during watch that or going back almost 50 years outlining the scope and scale of these operations even then it's public records there we've highlighted the important spots in that document and in that document specifically citing quote intergovernmental cooperation.
Even between quote otherwise adversarial nations because of the cross border ramifications we had pictures of us scientists weather scientists in the Soviet Union during the peak of the cold war and their scientists here I mean it's ludicrous the people don't think this is going on we had Lyndon Johnson we have one film first 30 seconds of all weekly broadcast the geo you want to do on film on the record. Branding like a lunatic in nineteen sixty two saying we had the power to control the world's cloud there then and he controls the weather controls the world I mean there's so much data people don't even believe what they see with your own eyes the sky looks like something the science fiction movie and as long as they're told it's okay go on nothing to see here the vast majority like the woman in the room I just described smoke in the room fire alarm nobody reacts or she doesn't either most people are in that category right now climate. Expert Dane Wigington coming up in just seconds I want to ask you is most of the manipulation of our weather of our planet from governments or from for profit corporations I mentioned about my dad my dad was one of the great naturalists and he he was concerned when we started to send.
Men and machines into space and he was concerned about that because he said do you understand the delicate balance of our earth when we send things into space we are changing the weight of the earth and he he thought about it to that degree that this is so delicate you start sending things into space you're changing the weight of the earth I found that amazing even as a child the other thing I found amazing as a child Dane is how how. How could the grownups not know that a nuclear blast in the middle of the desert what was not a good idea. Well yeah how could they not know it wasn't a good idea you're lucky to have the father you have much more on top of the rest of society wasn't it before the break you mentioned very important question of the difference between local eyes public eyes private cloud seating operations and profit and for profit and militaries we're talking about two completely different animals here so we know that geoengineering is absolutely do D run operations period cannot be otherwise localized publicized cloud seating operations to compare those two would be like comparing an ant to an elephant localized cloud seating aircraft single engine propeller can plane
generally or even a drone sometimes carries even smaller payload but even the plank only carry a few dozen pounds their dispersion players the military tanker can carry a little south of a hundred tons it's I mean it's impossible to compare these two and based on our on hundreds of web tests in Minnesota with UC University Minnesota and extrapolating the amount of materials in the precipitation calculating what the global dispersion would be over that state project neck globally it appears to something in the range of 40 to 60 million tons of nanoparticles are being dispersed annually so again this is a climate engineering Manhattan project and this is in translation it's weather chemical biological warfare all these elements are toxic they're synergistically toxic in the case of aluminum mercury for example we have very good study that both highly toxic metals when combined the overall toxicity goes up again exponentially so it's a wonder any of us are walking and talking at this point we have pretty good studies for example in the case of the bees most people know the bees are disappearing they know that but they don't seem to care
and it's way worse than they think way worse than we're being told so we're told this year the collapse was about 70% of honeybee populations in the cotton 48 48 that sounds really catastrophic but it's worse because that was a 70% collapse of the 20% to remain we're down to single digit populations of pollinators and nobody seems to care and we have pretty good study and there's a lot of things killing the bees we're not denying that there's warm chemical frequency transmissions but what's not being mentioned oh aluminum bio available aluminum contamination is so bad in the bees because it's settling on the flowers the pollen that they are exhibiting symptoms and this comes right from the science published report they're exhibiting symptoms that resemble Alzheimer's and dementia so Alzheimer's and dementia and a human being they can't even find the way back to the hive how soon till that happens to us and we can't even find our way home because people are definitely getting dumber by the day we know that there's a lot of reasons for that but we have study stating now in the US that in the last generation IQs have dropped six to nine points not to mention skyrocketing neurological everything which we would expect from these metals
but if a private corporation wants to cloud seed affect the atmosphere do they need permission from a government or can they do whatever they want? they need to fill out a permit in most cases in most states but there's no real approval process there's no EIR environmental impact reports so they basically do what they want but it's basically compared to the backdrop of geoengineering it's basically meaningless and the reason they let them do this is because they want to blur the light they want to blur the line between the end and the elephant look here don't look there pay no attention to that military tanker in the sky dumping a hundred tons in a payload or a little south of that and I think we talked about which militaries are what size they would be here that the US military has three times more aerial tankers than all other militaries in the world combined they are certainly the largest player but countries around the globe are being actively and passively forced to participate the cop climate conferences the international climate conferences where we have you know oil executives running a conference you know no conflict of interest there right and behind closed doors that's what these conferences are about they're about forcing countries to participate actively or possibly and it's not about changing business as usual not at all
Dan Wigington geoengineeringwatch.org that's his website you can learn more about him his organization what you and I can do what you and I need to be aware of in the atmosphere in our future of our planet geoengineeringwatch.org Dan Wigington thank you for being on the other side of midnight thank you Walter thank you so much for your ticket lesson for giving a voice to this issue thank you brother did you accuse me of being articulate thank you. Oh I absolutely did I don't say that lightly thank you well the now you're a brilliant man you're just a brilliant man thanks very much the other side of midnight.
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