
Counseling And Free Speech - with Kelly Shackelford
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Colorado tried to do something chillingly simple: let one side of a heated cultural debate speak freely, then make the other side a punishable offense. We dig into the Supreme Court’s 8–1 decision rejecting that approach, and why it’s bigger than a single headline about “conversion therapy” bans. When the state can outlaw a counselor’s viewpoint, free speech stops being a constitutional right and becomes a permission slip.
We’re joined by Kelly Shackelford from First Liberty Institute to explain what the Court actually protected and why it matters for minors seeking counseling, parents trying to help confused kids, and professionals who don’t want their licenses held hostage to political ideology. Kelly also walks through how this case fits the First Amendment framework of viewpoint discrimination and why even two liberal justices sided with the majority. We also talk about the Court’s recent 9–0 win for the right to bring a lawsuit when your speech rights are violated, plus a new employment case involving a college student fired after she answered questions about her Christian beliefs.
Along the way, we connect the dots to other legal and cultural fights, including concerns about major cases still in the pipeline and how ballot initiatives could roll back extreme policies even in deep-blue states. If you care about religious liberty, constitutional law, parental rights, and free speech in counseling, this conversation puts real-world stakes on the table.
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