CLARYficaton 09.12.26 - Air Force Office and a UFO Encounter

0:00Hey everybody welcome to another edition of Clarification. I'm your host James Clarie Got a special buddy at the board today Nick Sarah's Traveling around she just she's she's a road traveler Yeah, she's on a road she does I think that's been to every statement to I believe that's awesome It's awesome. Well, I'm glad you're here man me and we got a new guy in the studio Yeah, he did Bailey now Bailey's he's learning stuff and he's gonna be with this hopefully for a long time Well, he's about to learn how weird this show is yes And today's show is especially weird. Oh good Now I you know 9 11 so as my audience knows because I don't I don't care I think it transparency's the best thing this show is pre-recorded and If you're listening to it on the radio you're listening to it on Saturday morning and

1:03The anniversary of 9 11 would have been yesterday Friday although we're talking Tuesday This is a whole time lapse temporal thing but Anyway, I was gonna do a show on 9 11 really about the missing trillions I will just I want to direct the audience to go listen look up James Corbett on YouTube and watch his videos if you really want some deep dive information on The real travesty of 9 11 which was it was a total government up It was inside job by there. I said it on the radio. I love it but a Story came out yesterday which would have been Monday, but let's you know you're here on Saturday when the story recently came out on American Alchemy and I'm gonna have link put the link Nick link put the Nick Nick put the link there we said it Nick put the link in the show notes because

2:06this interview honestly was the most important and I Don't even think it's controversial. I think it's the most important interview that's been done regarding the whole UAP Issue which as you know we recent we Talk about on this show all the time and our friend Mutual friend right Nick Eric Irleason is Incredibly involved with this and now the show that I'm talking about it's called American Alchemy It's on YouTube Eric's been on that show. He knows Jesse real. It's this kid man. I mean, he's a kid to me. He's probably 30 He's got a mind like a steel trap. He's read every book on the subject. He knows the subject Really as well as any researcher out there. Well, he had this guy So name Mario Woods and I just want to tell you the story because it's truly incredible credible so Mario Woods

3:08has been telling this story for over a decade and there was one part of it that he He couldn't ever Close the loop because his partner was a guy named Michael Johnson and they could never find Michael Johnson and you know Michael Johnson's one of the most common names in America and They couldn't find him so but anyway go back to that November of 1977 This is in South Dakota on the ice cold Prairie and if you've ever been there I have been there north and south. It's just it's the badlands I mean, there's nothing out there and it was Very traditional native American land and we may get into that or not but it does have some significance in the story

4:12Mario is based at Ellis Air Force Base and It's not simply another military installation scattered across several miles of countryside are the Minuteman nuclear missiles these are the Most powerful destructive nuclear weapons in the United States Air Forces arsenal and Mario and this Michael Johnson who will get to Were security guards they had to go through an rigorous training program He had to have top secret clearance if you remember the US nuclear program is The highest of the high when you talk about classification because you know now We know that there are other weapons the US has now like directed energy weapons, but particularly this time it was the nuclear arsenal

5:13So Mario Is assigned to work with a guy named Michael Johnson It's not his normal partner his normal partner had gone off to get married So they brought Michael in from another unit to be with Mario on this day and So the first thing that happened is in this morning where they begin their shift It's like at dawn and they look out Across this open Nothingness and they see this tiny light in the distance and Mario for some reason thought that's weird And you know they really didn't think much of it so he turned they were in a shack like a guard shack type thing They turned the lights off on the shack three times the thing responded it went on and off three times now at midnight That night

6:14They're just sitting around just shooting a breeze Having fun doing whatever they do, you know, they're on their security thing But nothing ever happens out there, you know, it like I said it's a middle of nowhere highly secure base You can't just walk into that base But then This is security phone goes off. There's an alarm at a minute man launch facility that was designated November 5 and this got a little confusing this isn't the month of November But when I say November 5 this is a specific Missile or launch facility and it's not this isn't a trivially trivial alarm Mario Said there was an inner and outer zone penetration indication Which means something or someone had penetrated the inside perimeter and the outside perimeter People are freaking out. There's alarms going off everywhere

7:14Mario and Michael are instructed. They're the closest ones to November 5 this launch facility They're instructed to go check it out so they fly out into their truck and they're traveling down this dirt road And as they approach November 5 they see this glow But it's not in the sky It's on the ground and it's coming from the direction of this missile side They turn onto the access road and they pull up and there it is It is a enormous Perfectly round sphere That's the size I think he described it as a size of not a football field a football stadium And it's 50 feet across Above the the facility. It's 50 feet in the air Hovering and they talk about how it admits this light as soon as they pull up

8:15They said it was brighter than the sun And that for several seconds they literally couldn't breathe they Mario describes it felt like he was being lifted by his back Think of that the size of a football stadium it literally filled their whole field of vision They said that the the diameter of this thing extended beyond the fence. I mean this was massive He has this pressure he can't breathe And then he looks at at his partner and his partner is at the wheel He's the one driving his hands Appeared to be glued to the wheel he can't talk. He's in a catatonic state Mario's hitting him Michael. Do you see that do you see that? Then he can't breathe and all of a sudden he rose down the window Opens the door and he feels like he can breathe again. He and he says to him to Michael. We're okay

9:18Then an odor an overwhelming odor of something sulfur and ammonia mixed Comes through And he's terrified at this point and he hears a message in his head Three words that are very important in this story Do not fear Do not fear It's clarification. We'll be right back Hey, everybody welcome back to clarification. I'm telling This story today, honestly, is it is so wild And we will put the links to the uh the podcast and the show notes. It is it's wild, but if you missed the first segment We're talking about Mara Woods and he and his partner have just there's they've been alerted there at the South Dakota Elzworth Air Force Base Newclier facility Nuclear launch facility and there's this massive object

10:20So he gets this this smell. It's like sulfur ammonia and then there's a black sphere He said it was about ten feet in diameter and it zipped around their truck and it would stop over the top It would stop over the hood and when I heard him describe he tried to describe the color He said yes, it was black, but it was blacker than I can't even describe it to you It was like there was a hole in space time and you're looking at the void left It's complete absence of color And he had heard these words do not fear and at this point Mara looks out and he sees four Beans walking to towards him. There are three shorter human-like Beans in uniforms and then one that's a couple feet taller

11:22They have the typical gray massive almond eyes Bulbas heads, but these guys are wearing uniforms And he can hear in his head over and over do not fear And at that point he blacks out When he wakes up He looks at his clock or his watch and it and five hours had passed it was early in the morning And remember they had encountered this somewhere around 12 30 a.m He looks over and Michael his partner is still calatonic at the wheel and he can't be woken up his eyes are open But he can't speak He can't move apparently And eventually gets on the radio and a recovery team arrives and this is where The story is Takes a dark turn because they're separated Michael and Mara now Michael's taken to a medical unit first and we'll

12:25Talk more about that later his side of it But they're separated and they're questioned and they're questioned by the base commander, but there's always a Couple of OSI's office Air Force Office of its special investigation. These are like the Air Forces men in black they're in the room and The doctors when they examine Mario to find what they call radiation burns and they literally The one on his hand they cut this burnt piece of skin off Put it in an envelope and Mario says they labeled it top secret classified and he never saw it again So somewhere out there and a government archive Is a piece of Mario's skin that had been burnt by this alien ship? So he's questioned by the senior officers, but he realizes something that if he

13:27claims he remembers Pretty much everything up to the point he blacks out, but if he says I saw aliens He knows that he's gonna lose his security clearance and he's got a young wife and a young child Feeding trying to feed his family if he says that That he'll never have a job again So basically, you know, he says That they saw this large light And he passed out and that's the last thing he knows by the way when they woke up they were they were near a Reservoir that was eight miles from November 5 the launch facility So five hours of time have passed their eight miles away So They're separated the two men lose contact they had one more meeting

14:29before Basically Michael was shipped out and they met at Mario's house and You know Mario was like what do you remember? What did you see and and Michael recounts? You know this Those those creatures walking towards us those creatures. I was terrified. It was a scary thing I've ever seen in my life and then I blacked out next thing I remember is when I woke up in the medical facility so Years passed decades passed Mario was at a movie Close encounters of the third kind and when there's a scene in that movie When the alien ship is coming in the mailboxes begin to rattle and move back and forth He was so terrified. He said he felt violently nauseated had to get up and walk out of the theater And so he went through hypnotic regression he had remembered the UFO and the incident

15:32You know until he blacked out, but he didn't know what happened in those five hours. So he went through hypnotic regression You know He begins to tell his story only about ten years ago But the one Missing part is always Michael Johnson. You know look there's There's so many stories of one eyewitness seeing something and always the best evidence For any of these events are when an eyewitnesses testimony can be collaborated particularly when you're talking about aliens NHIs whatever they are and they're craft at America's most top secret weapons base I mean think about the ramifications just of that that it actually is able To get over the perimeter

16:33So You know is as intriguing as Mario's story is Without Michael Johnson to back him up It It's just another eyewitness story and you know he spent $10,000 of his own money trying to find Michael Johnson Go try to find a Michael Johnson. I mean, I actually did some searches Preparing for the show for the Michael Johnson and the story on Facebook and even though I knew a lot of details about him And I know he has a Facebook page. I mean it it's hundreds Hundreds of different Michael Johnson's on Facebook's even ones that live in South Carolina So the he had the FBI you know arrow the the most recent Committee or organization that's trying to study the UAPs him though. It's been co-opted

17:34um They tried to look for him nobody could find it but Jesse this podcaster who runs American Alchemy He and a one of his listeners actually sent him a link to a Facebook page and goes I think I got the guy because when you Michael Johnson was a black and that he served in the Air Force During this period and that he was at Ellis Air Force Base and he found a guy on Facebook Well then Jesse hired a recruiter in this within an hour this recruiter had Michael Johnson on the phone and this in this Reunion in this first telephone call. I mean it literally gave me chills So Jesse the podcaster gets Michael Johnson on the phone and says hey My name is Jesse is this Michael Johnson and he goes yes

18:36And he didn't say Jesse he didn't say anything and nobody had said anything about UFOs or anything all Jesse said to him as look I've got a buddy of yours that you served with At Ellis that L's worth I said Ellis L's worth Air Force Base and he'd like to reconnect you and Michael goes oh that's that's cool man I was actually thinking about trying to reconnect with some of those guys what's his name and he goes Mario Do you remember him and the Michael's like Mario Mario That's his first name because yeah his name's Mario Woods. He's like Woods. He goes you know man My brain was pretty scrambled from the stuff that happened to me back there. So I I think that name sounds so familiar, but I don't totally remember It but it's driving me nuts because it sounds so familiar So anyway Jesse patches

19:38He's got Mario on the other line and if you've got an iPhone or any modern smartphone You know you can do three-way calling So he asked Michael Michael to have your permission. Can I patch Mario into this conversation? He's like yeah, yeah, man. I'd love to talk to the guy. I'm not I'm not sure I remember him I think I do, but I'm not positive so he patches Mario into this call Mario is incredibly emotional this he's been telling this story this traumatic the most traumatic event Any human could go through he's been telling it for 10 years. He's been looking for Michael for 50 years The FBI the FBI couldn't find him so he's on the phone and he's like oh brother I've been looking for you forever He's like well, yeah, man. That's that's great and and then Mario says to him Do you remember what happened back in November? Of 1977 at the launch facility November 5 And Michael goes oh, yeah, man. You mean the UFO thing

20:42And at that instant we know That not only it's the right Michael Johnson We know that this story that Mario's been telling for a decade He's been on over 40 podcasts. He's been on the Discovery Channel the history channel Retail in this story now it's finally Has the one guy that can back him up Is on the phone without any prompting saying oh, yeah that UFO thing And you know eventually Jesse gets them together and the reunion is uh It wasn't a dry eye of anybody that watched that it was in it was incredible. It's an incredible moment So when we come back I'm going to get into Michael's story told first hand We'll be right back Hey everybody welcome back to clarification Talking about the incredible story of Mario woods and Michael Johnson

21:45Two nuclear-based security guards Who were taking aboard a UFO And witnessed a UFO over a nuclear missile site called November 5 And this incredible reunion because Mario woods have been telling the story forever and he finally He knows They found his partner and that you know that it's so important to know that when this call was made to Michael Johnson Nobody mentioned a UFO nobody mentioning they just said hey do you remember what happened November 77 at the missile site November 5 and he without any prompts as oh, yeah the UFO thing man It's pretty wild so They fly Michael out to Austin and the two men have a reunion like I said it's really emotion. I mean Mario is just sobbing uncontrollably

22:47hugging Michael like a mother would hug their baby Dissobbing both men and the whole crew too because it's you know, it's a big deal The trauma of someone being abducted particularly an army or air force personnel highly trained men To completely lose control. I mean the trauma of this and then The trauma we find out what happened the air force basically drummed Michael out they put him on some detail where he had to pick up trash around the base And eventually They said well we'll let you out with an honorable discharge, but they did some kind of note in his file that he could never join Another service he wanted to go into the Marines and he couldn't because it was something in his file So you know you're protect you're working for your government trying to protect the most top secret facility then your government

23:50Blanks on you I mean it's just it's outrageous anyway Michael They interview him and he talks about his memory so he remembers the massive Ball of light he remembers the brightness he remembers being frozen at the wheel He remembers saying I tried to talk but no words would come out He said his head was killing him that his eyes hurt He remembers hearing Mario talking to him and he remembers being unable to answer And then he lost consciousness now he does remember that there were strange movements around the truck and when they're asked What they worry said they're they're human-like, but they're creatures And he said what else anything else you remember

24:50From from that particular time he said something like Don't worry or don't don't don't fear don't worry the same thing Mario had said do not fear This phrase is incredibly important Because it's exactly what Mario recounted And then Michael confirms it he heard it too do not fear So he didn't know A whole or remember a whole lot more than that You know he knows he lost consciousness and then he remembers everything after after they woke up five hours later So Michael remembers Waking up in in medical and he talks about remembering in an injection because they shot me up with something

25:55and He remembers he had severe pain in his eyes and his head And Jesse specifically talks about how often the CIA and the military would use phenobarbital which is what's commonly referred to as truth serum Many witnesses have recounted this particularly particularly the witnesses at the Rindlesham Event a nuclear base in England where the American Air Force officers were given sodium pentatol or phenobarbital There's there's two variations of that drug And so when they asked Michael what did the after the shot what did you feel like and he goes high It made me high and that's exactly what sodium pentatol does it just makes you so so high in essence that you'll say anything I mean you don't care you you have no and it completely takes away your inhibitions and

26:57He remembers sodium pentatol being discussed and he said his brain felt scrambled He couldn't remember who he was for a time He couldn't remember people that he knew He does remember being questioned and he remembers Some of the people involved you remember the base commander was there He remembered the assistant base commander was there and that the members of the OSI remember we talked about at the office of a special Investigations the Air Force's men and black And They both Remember a skinny man and a tweed suit And if we have time we'll get into that but it does turn out or just tell you that man turned out to be richer dodie Who is incredibly Important in the whole uap discussion

27:59But looking up d-o-t-y richer dodie So These men tell their story but Although mario Underwent hypnotic transgression and and was able to recall these memories of being on the ship Michael hadn't he'd been repressing these memories So on this podcast he agrees to undergo hypnotic regression So they bring in this lady who's has 40 years in the field. She's the premier hypnotist And you know a lot of skeptics always say well these hypnotists they'll put these You know memories in by suggesting did you see small aliens this woman never does it he allows himself to be filmed He's incredibly disturbed all she says to him is tell us what you see

29:00Tell us what you're seeing right now or tell us what you're feeling right now It was incredibly traumatic to watch this because both men were taking a board of ship They were stripped down to their boxers and different types Of some type of medical experiments happen to them Michael recounted at one point being flipped on his back And felt or excuse me flipped on his stomach and felt like his back was being opened with a scalpel Now what were these NHIs nonhuman intelligence doing we have no idea where they taking spinal fluid we don't know I thought one of the most fascinating details in mario's recount is that mario By the way both of them said that when they were led in the ship was to his massive they floated

30:04They didn't walk At one of the aliens had their hand on and they floated but mario was taken to a room that had Different pieces of furniture that came where exactly like once he grew up with like an old radio Stuff like that. I mean, it's it's a crazy story. It's clarification. We'll be right back Hey everybody welcome back to Clarification on your host James Clare. We're going over the I think one of the strongest cases ever I've not only alien abduction of the fact that UFOs have been visiting American nuclear sites for decades and not just America This is all over the world France England the Soviet Union Have all reported The same phenomenon and just think about that for me. What does that mean? But anyway back to their story you know They both of their hypnotic regressions confirmed many details that

31:08Mario had been saying for decades and and Michael was not allowed or wasn't He was flown to Austin. He hadn't seen mario's account yet He didn't know what mario said because they wanted to get his Memories on record to see if it could you know justify document mario's account and There's just little details like one of the most amazing and bizarre things that Michael remembered From being inside the ship was a glove What a glove lying on a shiny floor Now why does that matter well because during the encounter before they were taken aboard the ship Mario says he removed one of his gloves To operate a flashlight And

32:08And afterward mario couldn't find the glove But Michael remembers seeing a glove on a shiny floor A floor by the way unlike anything mario had at his house Or anything at the air force base So mario actually and this was a very specific glove because it had been given to him by b 52 bomber who was shipping out And he did he was missing a glove but yet Michael in his hypnotic regression remember seeing one it's just one of those little details and there's a thousand of those that You know make this story So credible and so fascinating And I said we get to this if we had time the Richard dodie problem If you followed this subject at all you know that name he was an air force office of special investigations agent

33:12He became infamous for his role In feeding disinformation to a UFO researcher named Paul Benowitz Paul Benowitz eventually Was put in an insane asylum because dodie Fed him so much disinformation Which is classic What these guys do now Here's what's really What you need to know about the truth and trying to find the truth In these anomalous subjects There's two ways that the government hides information You know the Mario Michael Johnson they were told nothing happened you're never to talk about this ever And to Michael they kept saying after they gave him the sodium pentathol Nothing happened nothing happened to you you didn't see a ship nothing happened

34:18And they told Mario you want to stay in the air force you keep your Mount shut or they'll be repercussions So one way to hide the truth is to keep it from people The other way is to flood the zone and as this topic There became more and more credible stories piling up one on the other that keeping a secret no longer became Tenable for the government. I mean look what's going on right now So what do you do in that situation? You know when you're trying to find The noise over the static will you just throw out more static You flood the zone with fake stories that might have a kernel of truth and that happened in this particular case Several years after this incident a

35:18Supposed top secret air force memo was leaked And it was about an event that happened on Ellsworth Air Force day and the date was one day before One day before the Mario Woods Michael Johnson event and basically this memo said that a Large or a bright light had come over Ellsworth Air Force base and that two security personnel just like Mario and Michael went out to investigate and that some tall A human like but not human beings came out and shot at them with a laser beam And that one of the soldiers his M16 was actually

36:19disintegrated into his hands and that he had burns and and You know was this horrible event well that Turned out and investigators eventually discovered it was totally bogus was completely made up Somebody made that up and many people suspect it was rich or dody that was his job He was a disinformation agent So there's an event at Ellsworth The Air Force knows that somebody's going to talk about it Sometimes somewhere so they make up their own story And then It's so easy to disprove that then Anything associated with Ellsworth they say well that's been debunked You see how it works and they've done this over and over and over

37:21And it's you know, it's a really it's a sad thing. I mean our friend Eric Burleson Is trying to get to the truth and other members of Congress But even arrow the latest committee tasked with investigating this came to The first the first rendition of arrow came to the conclusion that There's really there's really no evidence of any nonhuman intelligence that most of these things you know They can be explained by Weather phenomenon etc etc. I mean again This Is top secret as the nuclear program is think how Top secret it then becomes when you have an unidentified object Pinnitrating the security perimeter of our nuclear weapons

38:21It also makes you wonder You know we're in this war with Iran because we're worried about them getting a nuclear weapon I don't think we need to worry about it Somebody else It's kind of got that that ball And we've done shows on it before you can look them up Go to ksgf.com click on podcast go to clarification the whole archive is there and I've done at least two other shows on UFOs and nuclear bases It's ubiquitous This began happening right after we begin testing Nuclear weapons right after war were two ended Roswell People don't make the connection but Roswell in New Mexico had the highest concentration of nuclear weapons at the time Very near there. That's why those UFOs were there

39:24So you know when government agencies muddied the subject with false information How much of what we call UFO mythology was deliberately manufactured to conceal Something else we just don't know So what did the fact that they found Michael Johnson actually changed did it prove Extra terrestrial's visited Ellsworth therefore space no It doesn't it did not prove that Mario and Michael were physically taken aboard a spacecraft hypnotic regression can't establish those things But it proved number one that Michael Johnson exists It wasn't a fictional character made up by Mario number two They knew each other number three They both independently

40:26Confirmed that there was an incident at the silo november five involving a UFO that alone This should be front page news But it's not you're gonna hear it on Jesse Michaels American Alchemy YouTube channel You're gonna hear it on ksgf clarification. You're gonna hear it on some other alternative news sources But it won't be in the New York Times and it won't be on Fox Because you know they've got some weight loss medication to sell Michael says the event affected his life profoundly remember I said that he claimed that his brain was scrambled They messed him up. I mean they gave him heavy the heaviest drugs There are by the way sodium pentatol the drug I'm talking about was used by the CIA in operation MK

41:29It was one of the drugs they used To brainwash people Michael talks about decades of psychological consequences that he associated with elsewhere And then he met you know, he's he's mad. He's angry with the government did do him Wouldn't you be And when you watch this If you go watch that interview What struck me the most just this sheer brutal honesty and the emotional Toil That this event took on these two brave men these two men Who gave up their private life to serve our country At the highest levels of national security and our country chewed them up and spat them out

42:35And these stories just represent a small fraction Of very similar if not exactly the same stories all over The US military and militaries across the world they the military is known That these things exist for decades And it's finally we've got to the point in our society where we can start openly discussing these things without being dismissed as a lunatic And I thank God for that I'm James Clarie its clarification. We'll see you next week