BREAKING: DeMarco Murray recruit decommits from the Oklahoma Sooners | EDGE Competition has ANSWERS!

0:00It's the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. While 2027 recruiting is giving to the Oklahoma Sooners, 2028 is taken away. You are locked on Sooners, your daily podcast on the Oklahoma Sooners, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. What's up, Sooner Nation, he's Jay Smith of Unfair Sports, I'm John Williams of Sooners Wire. And on today's show, players are praising Brent Vennables and the culture that he has created. We're going to talk about some edge players that are really standing out so far in Spring Ball. But we're starting right here, Jay. Michael Rose, the 2028 running back that had committed to Oklahoma, not long ago, decommitted from the Sooners on Wednesday.

1:00Yeah, he posted a nice little post or whatnot saying, thank you, he's thinking Oklahoma for them taking him in and accepting his commitment and everything and appreciate all the love or what not. He's like, but after he committed to, in his coach, Marco Murray left, within a week, literally he committed a week later to Marco Murray bounces. He decided that he needed to reopen his recruitment. Now, granted, Michael Rose is also a Texas legacy. And so it kind of, you know, feels like, you know, a cold and vassic type situation. Old vassin PTSD. Yeah, right. Two point. Oh, but I guess it made sense for him to really step away, John, like, you're a 2028, take it a time. Enjoy the process. Do the visits. Get to know folks. Don't, to me, I would tell kids, unless you're a quarterback, to not commit anywhere until

2:03around your senior year, because it makes more sense to commit like now with your senior year coming up, then it is for your junior year, you have a whole year of stats and stuff to put together. And then you go into your senior, enjoy the process. Do your visits, see who's who, uh, regardless, if you're talented and teams are willing to bring you in for visits, they're going to keep always being interested in you. Like, yeah, I've seen kids, you know, knock on wood. This doesn't happen to him, but I've seen kids get injured. They're seeing your year and still commit to a school rest that year and then come out and play the after a red shirt freshman year. So it happens. And but it's okay to go out there, ball out and do that. I mean, hey, Andy Bass is on the roster and he's now having finally having a good year after two unfortunate years of injuries. Yeah. So, you know, it's disappointing. You don't hold on to the commitment, but at the same time, maybe it was always going to go this way anyway, being that he's a Texas legacy. Like that's, I think a starting point on this. It was surprising. He committed to Oklahoma in the first place, given the ties to the Longhorns.

3:08At the same time, that just goes to show the recruiting prowess of DeMarco Murray and where he stands among recruits. People like DeMarco Murray for whatever. Sooner Nation feels about DeMarco Murray, the players like DeMarco Murray. And that means something. At the same time, you've got a new running backs coach. Things change, vision changes, direction changes. And it's not to say that they weren't going to welcome microroads into the fold with the limit hola at the home. At the same time, maybe it just wasn't a fit. One way or the other. It doesn't matter which way, just may not have been a fit anymore. And that's okay. That's now's the time to figure that out, right? Then to continue to just go through the process and assume that everything's all good. Yep. Better to figure it out early. Now you can just take your time like Jay is talking about. This is one of those kids that's going to have offers from a lot of places and he can

4:08go look at a lot of places and really get a feel for what he's looking for with the college. And it's not Oklahoma. That's okay. Oklahoma is going to have some talented options to roll with. And they've got a young running back room. Xavier Robinson, Torrey Blalock, Jonathan Hatten, DeZephan Walker will all be here. I imagine in 2027, unless somebody decides to portal. I expect them all. Next year. And I expect that you're bringing in two runny backs in the 2027 class two to add to that. And so that means X Rob Torrey, Blalock, Hatten, Zephan Walker, you still got Gabe Salchuk. Andy Bass will still be there. And then you'll bring in two more. Lloyd Avant will still be here most likely. Then you add two more players. Like the room's going to, you know, the room will be in a good spot. So it's not a bad thing that you, that, that, you know, you're 28, you're going to take

5:10your time on. Plus he's opportunity for dealing with color to go find somebody that he may be interested in. Or he may be interested in micro roads. They may circle back. But at the same time, I know that Dylan's focus right now is the guys they currently have. He's probably working on development in that room. And you know, 28, he's going to let the, the front off is do their job. Get him a good lineup of people to have conversations with and then, you know, start working on that. But again, unless you're quarterback, I don't see a reason for you to commit two classes ahead. I mean, we've seen this before with us. Anytime a kid commits two classes ahead, I'm just like, this is cool and all. But we'll see how long this sticks. Zane Rowe was a great example of that. That happened. Hey, Jonathan Hatton was one. He was one that committed a couple of classes ahead and then decommitted and luckily we got him back because I'm so glad that we got him back. It happens. It's recruiting, man. You know, they're young. Their minds are going to change. They're, and they're kids. They're going to change their minds. Certain things. We're excited. And the circumstances changed. Yeah, circumstances changes, too.

6:10Right? Like coaches gone. Yep. Come with an NFL. And as much as everybody wants to be like, you're committing to the school, not the coach. That's not real. That is not real life. You're. I mean, for most players, a lot of players might commit to Oklahoma because they want to play at Oklahoma. Others, they're committing for one of the coaches, whether it's the head coach, the offensive coordinator or some assistant that has recruited them. And listen, Michael Rhodes is a great player. So please don't mistake any of this conversation as a thought that he's not good. He's great. Oh, yeah. I think he's going to be really good at the collegiate level for whoever he ends up playing football for. And I have full faith that Dylan McCullough is going to find somebody that's very talented to be a part of that 2028 recruiting class because there's a long track record of players that have produced at a very high level under his tutelage. So just. Yeah. Well, things are true.

7:10He's a great player. Also, Dylan McCullough is a great coach. Yeah. I know that McCullough is going to find somebody that's going to fit for him. If it's not, Michael Rhodes, he'll find somebody that'll fit with his trying to do running backs as a ton of running backs out there. There's always options. So yeah. And I think we saw something similar happen when Ben Arbuckle came, right? You had a quarterback that was committed to the program under a previous offensive coordinator. When the new offensive coordinator came, he had a guy in mind that he wanted to be his quarterback. And they tried to play for both guys. And ultimately, it didn't work. And Jay No Neal decided to find a home elsewhere. And that's okay. That's just the way the game goes. It's all in the game. And so this is just one of those things that kind of plays out this way. And we've seen it also benefit Oklahoma. Jason Whitten come into Oklahoma, move the needle in a big, big way for Seneca driver

8:14to get him to turn his attention towards the sooners. So you win some, you lose some, you get some, they decommit sometimes. There's just the way the recruiting game goes. The game is the game, man. That's how recruiting works. The game is. Oh, man. Yeah. I'm curious to see how soon they even go after another 28, right? Like, I know they're going to have visits, senior junior days and all that that stuff. That actually intrigues them, curious to what that looks like for them over the next few weeks. Yeah. And so the only running backs currently offered in the 2028 cycle where micro roads, Zachary Belio, I'm sure I'm butchering that name and Corey Hinton, Corey Hinton, as Bishop Gorman, Las Vegas, Nevada. So you got to imagine that was a DeMarco Murray offer and then you, you know, they've recruited well out of the southeast as well. And so it'll be just kind of interesting to see what Dylan McCullough's offer she looks

9:17like as he takes over now with local listeners. Yeah. I hope that hopefully, uh, I said, I'm not really concerned about 2028 heck. If they see somebody in the 2070, want to add a third, I mean, I wouldn't be complaining about that either. But at this point, you've got Kildrick Ben, who's locked in and you have stokes, I think we should, I think we're solid. We're running back for right. We're really good at running back beyond solid, in my opinion. So looking forward to seeing how that plays out for the 2028 cycle, but we'll talk about Edgeroom because while there might be some question, I think we're getting some answers this spring. It's tax time, but for a lot of us, the old way of doing taxes is a lot trying to book an appointment that's not the most convenient sitting in a waiting room with a stack of papers, emailing back and forth and wondering if they really get your situation. But this year, you're getting a major upgrade into its turbo tax now has in person locations

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11:22with J and I right now we've been talking through the micro road situation and what we expect out of Delaumacola as a running backs coach as well as J dropped his a too deep depth chart projection in there as well. And that got a lot of people talking, especially about the running back room. Yeah, no, I told y'all that this the the initial one that I have is it's it's base upon you know spring ball right now that could change all of that could change like very quickly but right now what I think it looks like you know just you know kind of a starting point and we'll kind of go from there. Yeah, just feeling some things out and it's it's going to be you know fun to see kind of how they'll all plays out and if you want to get in on the action and just try it out and see if it's something you might be interested in you can go use promo code march over there right now and you can get one month free using code march over at locked on sooners dot supercast dot com just to try it out and then if you don't like it just cancel.

12:23But I think you're going to enjoy what you get over there in the the discord chat because it's good times yeah not just with us to time but across the locked on community as well. All right, Edgeroom was a bit of a question. We know Taylor wine is going to be a stud for you at one of those defensive end spots but we weren't quite sure who's going to be the guy that steps up at the other defensive end spot. Well, it seems like it's the biggest answers. Yeah, that was the biggest question. You know me, John, we talked about and we did our initial preview of the room of okay, we know PJs out due to injury when he comes back. Well, he find his way back in there and the one player that you know besides him that we were expecting and hoping to have a breakout was Daniel Colier and it sounds like he's already showing those leadership traits that we expected. Uh, he's considered one of the more athletic players on the team. Especially that position head can do can do a standing back flip right like with ease and he's super athletic, uber athletic and he likes violence and so you're just ready for him to be

13:27they got it breaks out. Well, it sounds like he is starting to do that and he's starting to create the havoc that Oklahoma is hoping that they would have gotten out of him even honestly as a true freshman but he's been putting in the work his dedication has been focused there and you start to see it on the field. Yeah, there's a lot of really positive things coming out of spring ball about Danny Acque, the size you cannot teach what he's got from a size perspective. The length is really, really good and then the explosiveness, the get off the athleticism, all of those things are going to allow him to be a really, really good edge player for Oklahoma. It's just about fine tuning the details that go along with playing the position because it's not just about Russia, the passer got to be able to set the edge but from all accounts, it sounds like he's taking steps in that direction to go be big time for the sooners. He's doing everything that they're asking him for and more. He's putting in all the extra work on that and so when you add with him, you know,

14:32he was saying like in one of the interviews that he felt like he was holding himself back those first couple of years. You know, he wasn't really investing the way he felt like he needed to and then when he really judged digging into it, he realized, oh, let me add some more to this and I can get out there and if I'm being honest, my personal observation is, it's all what happened with Taylor Wine. Yes. How quickly things changed for him. He's probably like, oh, I'm up there with him. I was a high five four star four reason. Alabama, what Nick Sabin wanted me for a reason. Let me turn this up. Here we go. So I expect him on the other side of Taylor Wine to start the year. I do expect a lot of PJ. We kept him from getting to when the portal came back out. We, you know, for about five, four and a half minutes, but we kept him from leaving. So obviously we have a plan for him. Then the next question is, which I've seen that in one of the observations from practice

15:34on Monday was Kenya's Walu was playing at the edge as well right behind Okoye. And so you get big, oh, it's a Walu to 90, but he's able to play edge and the interior and he's out there at the edge. Man, it's going to be a, it's going to be a fun set of rotations that you're going to be able to see with that. And then, of course, we've heard about what White or is considered the next Taylor Wine. How fast is he going to be able to get out there and play right behind Taylor Wine? Is that going to be the rotation on that side? You've got options. And with that's the best part. Yeah, with the emergence of Kenya's Walu, it also gives Brent Venomel's Todd Bates Miguel Chavis some defensive front options as well. If they want to run a three man front with David Stone at one of the quote unquote defensive end spots, Kenya's Walu at the other defensive end spot and Jaden Jackson at defensive tackle. And then you can run your three or four linebacker set. That creates some

16:40and really intriguing options for you. Or if you want to run Dania Coye as that other edge and get big with a five man defensive line front, again, you've got options. This is a really intriguing group. They're not all built the same and they have different levels of experience. You could go big and heavy with Kenya's Walu and PJ out of Brewery at your defensive end spots. You can go quick, twitchy, athletic past rushers with Dania Coye and maybe a Jake Krell who has really, really impressed so far in camp. You've got intriguing options and I can't wait to see how Brent Venomel's Todd Bates Miguel Chavis decide to deploy these guys on the edge because again, you could go three man fronts. You can go four man fronts. You could try to run some traditional three, four style fronts where you've got your bigger defensive linemen in the middle and then your twitchy, your armacing Thomas types playing that outside linebacker spot. Again, just options. But to Jake Krell, man, he was always one of those guys that we kind of pinpointed could be a

17:47breakout star as a true freshman archive. Brian Smith of the portal here on the Lockdown Network that covers recruiting and the transfer portal stuff has been blowing us up about Jake Krell for more than a year and just talking about the refined technique that he brings to the table and Taylor wine is echoing that in spring balls. Well, he's like, he's further along than I was as a freshman and he's got a lot of answers to the questions already. I mean, that's pretty darn huge if you got them and saying that. Yeah, I think he's better than what I was as a freshman. Hey, that's all I need to hear. He'll be everything I need to know about what he can be. We kind of expect it. Krell, like, he's a five star and there's kind of a reason why we feel like they went after him. They expect him to probably find a way on the field and he has been. I think I know he's been getting a little bit of rotation or whatnot. He's one that I would not

18:48be surprised if, because I know he played second team, I wouldn't be surprised if he puts on the right amount of weight. He ends up playing as a freshman. He's definitely going to get some pass or snaps, whether they decide to register here or not, we'll see, but in four games, you're going to see him rush the passer, whether it's in their non-conference games, but I think that because of his dynamic ability to get to the quarterback, you're going to put him on the field. You're going to find ways to get him out there, rushing opposite Taylor wine. You're going to split some of those reps with Danie Koye and the good news is if you pull wine off the field for a third down or a Koye off the field for a third down, you've got a guy that is a polished pass rusher that can step in and provide something. In a third and long situation, you may not want him out there in like third and three where the option is still there to run the ball at this point, but get him in some third and long situations

19:52and just say, Jake, go get him. Yeah, just go take the guy out. That'd be fun. I like saying, as a starting point, that's good. Of course, at some point, you're going to want him to be able to do some run-stopping or whatnot, but when it's a guarantee pass down, hey, yeah, go out there and just, you know, go book wow, buddy, come make it happen. And this is the part of if the offense improves, like we think it's going to and they're a better group and they can get this defense more leads. And you're letting Jake Krell play the third and fourth quarter as Oklahoma has a 10-14 point lead. And they're just going after the quarterback, going after the quarterback, going after the quarterback, dude, he's going to have a chance to put up some numbers. So I'm excited to see what this room looks like because there's a lot of untapped talent and untapped potential, but we've seen what they've been able to do Miguel Chavis in particular at finding that potential and letting it break out. So coming up, players speaking to the culture because culture still matters as much as everybody wants to make it about

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22:59I got to take advantage of it folks. So visit fandals.com to sign up today that's fandals.com to get in on the action. And thanks for making lockdown centers your first listen every single day, shout out to all the everydayers, Brent Metables culture has been a big time talking point during his 10 year with the Oklahoma Sooners. And Oklahoma released the first episode of the hurry up with Taylor or Parker Livingston, Kade McIntyre, Cortland Gullery speaking to the culture. And I'm going to just start with this quote right here from Gullery because you have a freshman all-American dude that was a breakout star as a true freshman. Someone who is going to be one of Oklahoma's most important pieces over the next two, maybe three years if you can get him to stay for that extra year. Here's open again, fingers crossed. Here's what he says, I like that coach Venables is a hard coach. Whether you're doing good or bad, he's always going to make you feel like

24:00you're not doing enough. I feel like you need a coach like that. Someone who's going to push you to be great no matter what. He's going to get everything out of you and that's a good thing. That's huge. By basically just kind of validates a lot of just the the background of for Venables. Like, remember him taking this job as his first head coaching job. He was very meticulous and really specific about this. He initially, you know, coach was underneath Bill Snyder, there at Kansas State, that's where he started his career. Follow Bob Stoops to Oklahoma. After Stoops left with the Florida and then came to Oklahoma. So he, you know, Bob Stoops and then dabble, sweetie. So three guys, three guys that are Hall of Famers. He was underneath greats and he just absorbed as much as possible and he understood gotta get the most out of your people and it shows with the culture and just the way that people rave about the staff and the people. You put it this way. You can tell who the staff really like when it comes to players, recruits,

25:06all of that and a lot of the players that the former Oklahoma players love coming back, especially the 2000s guys. They love coming back and they show some of his respect to the legends too. So you got these players happily returning, hanging out, passing their knowledge down. That's a culture and you only get that if the culture is set to where these players are ready to accept it. Be accountable to themselves and be responsible and go out there and they went up, they want to represent the school in the best way. Parker Livingston had this to say one of the new guys on campus. He says he preaches and talks a lot about culture and getting people to buy in. It's amazing what happens when you talk about it, preach about it and live by it. I think he absolutely does all three. When all the coaches are emulating those values, the players buy in and you build one heck of a team. That's what we're doing right now. And I think that's part of what makes Brent Metables a guy that's really easy to

26:08root for is that he's trying to do things the right way, living things out the right way. And that dude, he pushes himself as hard as he pushes his players. I mean, running stadiums in August in Oklahoma, that is not for somebody who decides they want to take it easy in life. No, that guy is about as physically fit as of a head coach, as you'll find in college football or any sport for that matter at the collegiate level. And again, it comes from he has high expectations for his own health and he's pushing himself to maintain those expectations. Yeah, it always cracks me up that they have that that he does that and everyone always sees it and points it out like man. Brent Metables has run the stairs and it's like do y'all not realize that this is what he always does? He's always done this. This has always been his thing. Like he's done this for years and he always cracks me up. But you know, he's when he's out there working like that. It reminds the players to work hard too, which is of course, I think that's what like you said, the players really appreciate

27:12that. No, he's he's he's definitely down for us by bus in his tail with that because I did had a baseball coach in high school that had us running so much, man. We were running like off season three miles three times a week. So my do my my head coach, he was built like an offensive lineman. We'll just say that and like an old offensive lineman that hadn't slimmed down yet. It is this the I'm trying to be nice about it. And I'm like you couldn't run a hundred yards and yet you're asking us to do this. But when you have a coach that's out there doing it, like Brent Venables is, he's like, I'm I'm pushing myself physically. Let's go. Let's go to work. Yeah. It does mean something. It sets the tone. It's it's like a arrogant, you know, charging more door. He's like, we're going to go fight. We're going to go help Frodo. I'm going to be the first one out. I'm going to go lead this charge for Frodo. Let's go. Right? Yeah. Is that too nerdy? Here. I'm going to set a lock on students. I apologize if it is.

28:15You know, just a little bit. It's okay. We appreciate the nerdyness coming out when we when we're talking ball here, but that's exactly what it is. Yeah. Right? He gets the most out of his players. And that's something that I truly appreciate. We all appreciate. I think the players appreciate it like crazy. Yeah. Well, and yeah, I mean, he and it trickles down through the coaching staff, you know, just the again, the and it's not just the hey, I go work out and I work hard, but it's also what they do extra, you know, Nate dryling was a guy that worked a ton with the linebackers throughout the off season and throughout the season doing extra. Obviously Taylor wine. He spent a lot of extra time with Miguel Chavis. That's what everybody kept talking about. All last off season was how much work Taylor wine was putting in in the building. And the coaches are a part of that. And what allows them to also be a part of that is this front office staff working over time, freeing up the coaches to do that. So yeah, it's it's just a whole culture of hey,

29:16we're going to do the extra. We're going to put forth the extra stuff. Cade McIntyre had this to say it's the consistency of his intensity. He's going to be on everyone every day. His coaching style doesn't change. And he expects the most out of everybody all the time. You know, that quote reminds me of I forgot which player it was. They talked about playing for the San Antonio Spurs back when Tim Duncan was there. And Greg pop of his was coaching. And they were like, you know, it's kind of hard to not listen to pop when he's really imfing Tom Tim Duncan and Tim Duncan listens, takes it and goes out there and bust his tail. It's like, how do you be mad? Coach, forget no to you when he's going to start player the exact same way. And the star players like you ride coach, let me go fix this and they go fix it. You can't you can't really. You kind of got to accept it. And you got them but shut because you know that the coach actually cares like

30:21most coaches are afraid to do that to the star players. They're afraid they're going to lose their star players. But no, the star players like not want to be coached hard. Right. And these players you can tell they're they've as as BV's doing as he's telling like no, we want to be coached hard. We want to be we want to grow. And that's the way you do it. And they're taking accountability for it. So I like that. And BV is tough on himself. He talk he takes so much responsibility. And what he does is one of the things you appreciate a lot. And so I'm just glad that he's going to continue. He's continuously doing that for all of them. And in addition to the intensity, he's created a and fostered a culture that shows that they care about the players off the field as well. Through soul mission, just even through the relationships that they've built where it's like, hey, yes, we want you to be the very best football player that you can be for the program. But we also want you to grow and become the very best man that you can be for when you're outside the program. When you go into the world, when you graduate from college and you go into the workforce,

31:24you have a family, you're a father, like all that stuff, it matters to them. And it matters to burn vegetables into his coaching staff. And and that's how you build a culture. It can't just simply be about, hey, come help me win the bunch of football games so I can make my paycheck better. It's hey, come to this program where we can develop you as a player, as a person. And along the way, let's go try to win some football games. But it's, it's kind of the Ted Lasso thing where he talks about, I'm, I'm quoting a lot of movie TV tonight and it's cool. We're Ted Lasso's talking to Ted to crimm in the first season of the show. And he's talking about how when, you know, his, his level of success isn't defined by wins and losses necessarily. But by helping every player become the best version of themselves. Now, I get it. Wins and losses are going to be what defines a college football coach in America at the same time. If we're just winning games, but we can't be proud

32:31of the program. It gets a little, gets a little stinky, right? Like it makes it a little bit conflicted, you know, I get national championship or bust. You just want to win football games. We're not playing school, playing house or any of that stuff. At the same time, you want to root for a team that you can be proud of. At least I do. Saying that's kind of the way I like to live life is. Yeah, exactly that. Yep. And so what's great about what Bernvittables has created is you've got a team that you know is going to bust their tail every single time that they're on the field. And the effort is going to be there. You don't have to question the effort or the level of intensity that they take into a football game. Our players going to make mistakes 100% but they're going to make them at 110% and that's what you want, right? I've never heard a coach say it's okay if you go 80% and you know you're in the right spot, but you're going 80%. No,

33:32they'd rather you go 110% and mess up because the next time you go 110%, you're probably going to get it right. So anyway, any final thoughts on this Jay? No, think I'm good. That's uh, I'm exactly, I'm glad that we're getting to that point. I'm glad that the the I'm glad that the culture is starting to catch up with everybody and now we need to just fully execute on the field. Yep. And it's like I said, coming into the segment as much as everybody wants to make it about everything else in sports. And I'm not going to sit here and tell you it doesn't matter. The NIL matters, the revenue sharing matters, funding for programs, it matters. But what's going to allow for Oklahoma to be consistent for a long time is culture. And that's going to do it for today's episode of Lockdown. Sooners, thanks so much for being a part of the show, subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts. We're free and available on all podcast platforms and on YouTube. So hit that subscribe button, hit that notification bell, let you know when new episodes

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